/lit/ - Literature

Why do I need a reminder when I can just look at the catalog? Or half the posts made?

Welcome to the end game
You will be just like /v/ and /tv/ by the end of next year

Hypershere also made it to r/all recently apparently. /lit/ is the Reddit safespace within 4chan.

This is why we need to be harsh as possible when dealing with newfags trying to talk about genre and middlebrow trash. Cultivate the most unwelcoming environment ever. We used to be better at it but I suppose we've already been gentrified to some degree.

>>7554334
How do we become more /pol/ without turning into /pol/

>>7554334
Do you have a link?

Barely made a difference desu.

>>7554354
We don't, we remain /lit/.

>>7554351
I see what you're getting at. But that has risks of becoming memey as fuck -- just look at what happened to /mu/.

Statistically speaking, 100% of the posters in this thread are likely to have come from Reddit.

>>7554366
Nice try.

>>7554364
If we stay /lit/, we're going to be overtaken by Reddit. Aristotle warned us by tolerance and apathy

>>7554351
this isn't /a/, being civilized (really, not overly happy or supper friendly, just acting maturely) is the best way to get newfags moving along. They'll find it boring.

>>7554354
/pol/ is not only where every fag goes to be politically incorrect (meaning that is a place atractive for outsiders) but also stormfront 2.0 which isn't a nice alternative.

>>7554366
some of us have been here since before /lit/ was a board, posting about books in arcanine.

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The real solution isn't to become something else to move away people we don't like, that's acting entirely with them in mind. The solution is making a place where new people feel the need to act as we do, turn them into us.

They made their own list lol.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1odBM0G4hcifTw5jFL7qs6-LEzC5qYT9704pb44OBi5g/edit#gid=0

oh no reddits might come and ruin /lit/

because it was awesome before. there were no shitposts at all and 95% of the discussion wasn't trash. it used to be like the fucking academy of athens here. now where will I go to read people make fun of john green and reference max stirner?

>>7554406
/pol/ has safespaces where intelligent people discuss world events
this is hidden in plain sight behind a wall of openly racist shitposting and if you cant filter through that just stay out
we must find a way to flood /lit/ with shitposts which scare away redditors without turning into /tv/

>>7554481
Le unashamed reddit man appears!

>>7554502
Every time you say the word Nigger, 10 Redditors leave 4chan forever.

>>7554502
we already do it, is called infinite jest

>>7554513
reported for racism.

don't post racism outside of /b/, please.

>>7554517
>pretending reddit doesn't love infinite jest

found the redditor

Friendly reminder that this is supposed to be a literature board, not internet tribal bitching.

POO IN LOO

>>7554522
/lit/ is a community of highbrow intellectuals, shitlord.

>>7554522
you need only look at their list >>7554471 to see why we don't want them here. We don't want our board to be taken up with Game of Thrones discussion and fucking memes, now fuck off back to reddit.

>>7554532
>he thinks /lit/ is anything but memes

tears buddy

>>7554520
nigger

>>7554521
i dont know i dont go to that shit hole.

>>7554536
It's too late you guys, reddit is clearly already here.

>>7554471
I love this board. I love /lit/. I didn't come to 4chan until I found this community. I love that you can post a list like that and I laugh out loud but I can't go anywhere else on the web and people understand why.

There is nothing on that list that is above a 7th grade reading level.

>>7554542
better leave then, mio familia

>>7554547
>shitskins prevail once again

>>7554547
don't you have some garbage fantasy series you should be reading right now?

>>7554553
>le racism man

>>7554555
I MEAN COME ON, KAREN.

>>7554251
THE ISNT EVEN THE NEW LIST ITS FROM 2014

>>7554547
>build bookshelf

>>7554554
don't you have some literature for 18 y.o. upper middle class white males you should be reading right now?


see list: >>7554251

>>7554572
Haha, oh wow. Kill yourself you double digit IQ shitskin. Just end your fucking life so we don't have to suffer your presence any longer. Just fuck off back to the middle east so we can bomb the shit out of you already, Ahmed.

>>7554580
>4chan paragon of virtue """""""banter""""""""

>>7554572

>>7554580
This is the product of enlightenment.

>>7554611
just report him and move on

most of the comments are basically one of these

"You don't read Moby Dick. You might read excerpts of Moby Dick, but you don't straight up read all of Moby Dick."

"I'm surprised that The Hitchhiker's Guide is that low on the list to be honest."

"You forgot "Ender's Game" by Orson Scott Card"

"This list is 97.6% troll"

"The Catcher in the Rye may be one of my least favorite books I've ever read. Seriously it's just an asshole complaining about everything"

"From skimming this list, 4chan seems to think the best books are almost exclusively written by white men"

>>7554625
>reporting the guy telling the redditor to go fuck himself instead of the redditor

>>7554635
>getting out-memed this bad

>>7554637
a clear indicator that you're not from /lit/ is when you substitute the word "meme" for a lack of vocabulary or thought. just thought i'd let you know.

>>7554653
a clear indicator that you are from /lit/*

sorry, its been a long day

>>7554653
YOU'RE THE ONE FROM REDDIT!!!

>>7554653
>[...]or thought. just thought i'd let you know.
kind of loosing at your own game, m8

>>7554683
>>7554684
>>7554696
pathetic. i wish we could round up and gas every last one of you.

>>7554714
>>>/reddit/

>>7554714
Angry farting is pretty much the neckbeard's response to normies on their internet

>>7554725
>>7554737
It's impossible for either of you to have any original thought. I would recommend just calling it quits on this whole reading endeavor. You were never cut out for it.

Hey guys, I love SJWs and want to have more SJWs on this board! So please don't become more redpilled!

>>7554768
No /lit/ is a /pol/ board, you redditcuck.

>>7554758
*tips fedora*

>>7554777
Yet more unoriginal thought. You can only think in memes and internet lingo. Your brain has been completely destroyed. Fascinating.

>>7554784
go back to tumblr, cuckold

take the redpill

>>7554776
thread/
fuck the sjws this is a redpill board!

>>7554776
Post of the fucking year.

>>7554776
10/10
This is a fucking /pol/ board no matter what the SJWs think.

>>7554776
greatest post in /lit/ history

>>7554776
Couldn't have said it better myself. 10/10

>>7554251

Imgurborne Toxic Event.

>>7554776
This! We are against women and blacks and for fascism. Great post 10/10

reddit btfo

>>7554813
Yep. A miasma of toxicity is upon us.

I'll be leaving for a month, focus on reading and writing. Hopefully things will have cleared up by then.

>>7554356
https://www.reddit.com/r/4chan/comments/3zjkoo/lits_published_masterpiece/

>>7554520
nigger

/lit/ is for entry level /pol/sters who get ignored there when they say niggers. So they come here ranting about women and trying to shock. It's like the kiddie paddling pool of /pol/ because /lit/ sometimes bothers to rise to their bait rather than having the pool entirely filled with shit.

>>7554840
Reported for being too edgy for my sensibilities. Can't believe you'd just say nigger on 4chan like that

>>7554833
god

>>7554406
>just acting maturely
Yes. The /lit/ way is to make intelligent, overwrought, extensive, and autistic posts arguing minute and pedantic details, and doing so for hours on end.

>/r/4chan
>implying this image probably wasn't at the top of it at least once
>implying the userbase isn't exactly the same anyways

>>7554594
>>7554580
The banter was about 6, maybe 7/10. It's a /pol/ or /int/ style bants, though, not that of /lit/. I haven't seen proper /lit/ banter in a while, though. :(

Maybe, and this is just a maybe, having shitty meta threads isn't helping to contribute to actual literature discussion? Maybe instead of caring so much about what random strangers that happen to use other websites think, you could post a thread all about literature. Though that might be a pretty radical idea on a literature board, right?

>>7554285
the beauty of it is 90% of normies have no interest in literature
we could never be as bad as /v/ unless we started actually discussing videogames imo

>>7554910
Because you have a terrible taste in literature and I don't want you shitting up the board with your terrible taste.

>>7554913
>What is YA

Someone give me the run down on why I should care in the slightest if a few dozen members of Reddit come here? In a board where discussion of literature is less common than threads consisting of berating those who poorly review a classic novel on GoodReads, you would think that to be given the opportunity to enhance the lives of those coming in from the outside would be taken happily. And to say that the terrible off-topic threads are a byproduct of the outside agitators coming in simply isn't true, as it has been this way for years. You are also welcome to use the filter on any subjects you feel detract from your experience. I guess I'm just rambling.

>>7554830

I don't know if it's real or a simulacrum, tbqh. Whether there has actually been an influx of uncultured swine or if it is just a few trolls playing on the perception of it, or if the quality of posts always was this low.

Stumped really, and slowly losing grip on reality. 8/10 experience so far.

>>7554915

Okay, mate. I'll just go back to r/books :^)

>>7554917
>literature

If you're going to go on a witch hunt for rebbit then you're probably going to end up abusing mostly litizens. Which is likely what you've been doing all along. Stow your grievances and stop being a child.

>>7554918
The purity of out blue board race! Our anarchic freedoms that we hold sacred will be put in jeopardy and we will be forced to upvote, circlejerk more coherently and meme slightly less.

Why do hotpockets let meta threads sit around for so long

It was kinda scary at first seeing but then seeing the comments in the link it seems not many if any at all seem interested in the kind of literature that is predominantly read here.

>>7554961
Yeah reading through the comments, we can be reassured, that 4chan's reputation remains intact.

Only valid comment/criticism that I've seen so far is this:
>The feminist in me is screaming for more female authors! Herland, Anne of Green Gables, Frankenstein, Little Women, Austen, The Awakening...

>>7554979
Also this is the old top lit chart, I'm not sure how many more female authors got in the second and better made one.
Let me try to find it.

>>7554979
>tfw consider myself a misogynist
>tfw read and love Wuthering Heights every Christmas

I do not give a fuck about who wrote the book. Guy, gal, black, Asian, who gives a fuck. If it's good, I'm going to read it. Tired of people claiming that we, in general, only like old dead white guys. What is the point of that argument anyway?

>>7554979
That's really not a valid criticism. It's wanting more diversity for diversities sake.

>>7555000
This is very poignant comment for a very poignant post number.
Honestly I don't know, I guess some think that diversity is good on itself.

>>7555004
Yeah just realised that. But I mean, there are actually good female authors, that "should" be on the list for the quality and not for their gender.

>>7555004
this.

>>7554979
fuck off to reddit. having more women authors for the sake of equality is fucking idiotic

>>7555016
>fuck off to reddit.
>>>/tv/
seriously, that like the weakest meme ever.

>>7554979
That's a lie, though. I come across those books from time to time. Ultimately, a feminist general is odious to me and unsuitable for /lit/.

>>7554979
>>7554988
Also I'm with them, I don't see why we should diversify our chart, it was simply made through votes, i.e. it's representative of what we like most... having to include gender, race, age, nationalities just for the sake of diversity wouldn't show what the chart is trying to do, simply tell what /lit/ likes the most.

>>7555026
Look I did backpeddle a bit, saying they should be on the list for their quality not gender. And I still stand by that.

The fact that there are comments along the lines of "The Bible? Really?" is a 'testament' to the caliber of people we are dealing with. Pure fedora tipping.

>>7555032
there are little 0 top tier books written by women though

A million views, what the fuck

>it's not even the infinitely superior 2015 version

Also pic related, I wonder what their equivalent subreddit would vote for as their top 100?
Brave new world, harry potter, the martian, to kill a mockingbird and what else?

>>7555032
But it's not about quality, it's just what we like the most.
We voted for our favorite authors and books and then the charts were made for both.
For example I consider Gene Wolf to be pretty meh compared to the other 5 next to it in either direction, yet it's 27 on the chart.
Woolf has two entries, and Wuthering Heights is in the list, these three are imo way better than the ones the imgur poster listed with the exception of Austen who (imo) could have made the list easily but I guess we just didn't vote enough for her.

>>7555103
Reddit is huge.

>>7555062
>>7555062
>>7555062

which one of you fuckers did this

>>7555087
The waves or to a lighthouse are top tier.
If you include poets, Dickinson is top tier.

>>7554471
>hungry catepillar
>#1 book of all time

>>7555118
I blame television and the internet for this. People unwilling to sit down and concentrate for a decent amount of time not having their minds on autopilot. The reward of a difficult read doesn't even compare to the reward of a simple "entertaining" read

>>7555118
>We voted for our favorite authors and books and then the charts were made for both.
Yeah I get that. I wasn't there to vote, but
>implying my votes would matter.
It's pretty much the same on any board, when /mu/ makes a new /mu/-core list it's also a lot of entry-level or "popular" stuff that personally I don't feel deserve the spot, but that's just how it works.

>>7554471
>5 The hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy - Douglas Adams
>6 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
>7 A Brave New World--Aldous Huxley
>8 1984 - George Orwell
Wow, I didn't think their list would be this predictable.

>>7555132

it's a meme you dip

>>7555124
>If you include poets, Dickinson is top tier.
>top tier

Top tier is Dante, Milton, Vergil. She's nowhere near top tier.

>>7555159
sorry for not knowing reddit memes

kill yourself

This thread reeks of r/4chan. Please lurk for at least a few months if you want to join in.

>>7555161
She is the second best American poet, I'd call that top tier.

The fellows you mentioned are above top tier, in something dumb like legendary tier.

>>7555159
But why would you have a meme on supposedly serious list.That's like if our list would have The Legacy of Totalitarianism in Tundra or whatever.

>>7555177
Emily Dickinson isn't even the second best female poet, much less American poet.

>>7555177
Bloom please go

>>7554979
>Herland, Anne of Green Gables, Frankenstein, Little Women, Austen, The Awakening

what bothers me about the reddit/imgur shills is their shit taste in women non-white/anglo writers. They also tend to use it as a cover for anti-intellectualism. Joyce and Melville are irrelevant dead white males, but Heinlein and Tolkien somehow aren't.

Just post cp

>>7555236
how about no

>>7555252
Are you gay or something?

>>7554833
kill me now

>>7555264
this was actually you?

what horrifying degeneracy

>>7555252
Spotted the redditor

>>7555289
/lit/ isn't /b/. get out of here

Man last few posts made me wonder if I'm still on /lit/ or was I redirected to r/4chan or some shit.

>>7555298
No u

I couldn't handle reading those comments. /lit/ has turned me into something awful when it comes to plebs

>>7554351
This is the only answer.

>>7555159
>being acquainted with reddit memes
kill yourself

death is the only answer

>>7555188
Name one better female poet and one better American poet (excluding Whitman).

I get infuriated just being reminded of those comments.

>>7554351
Yeah, and harshest= >>7555236

>>7554776
Actually it's an /r9k/ board. The only recurring politically incorrect theme is /lit/'s shared hatred of womyn.

>>7555534
Elizabeth Bishop and Sylvia Plath are both better poets.

e.e. cummings
T.S. Eliot
Ezra Pound
fucking Edgar Allen Poe

>>7555564
Most accurate post itt. Reddit absloutley blown. le. fuck. out.

>>7555582
*Allan

>>7555582
The only ones I might agree with are Eliot and Pound.
Dickinson is still the best female poet though.

>>7554351
Yes, because acting like autistic, raging man-children will definitely set you all apart from the common rabble and their plebeian entertainment.

Is your desire for divisiveness and exclusion from most people just a way for you to have a bullshit feeling of superiority when it comes to first-world things?

Christ almighty.

>>7555582
Stevens and Crane are the best Yank poets.

>>7555672
I am literally superior to you

>>7554351
/lit/ is already the definition of middlebrow

>>7555672
spooks

>>7555680
>Is 4chan just becoming school teachers?

>>7555673
Maybe if you don't include Whitman. After him it becomes close and a matter of taste.

>>7555555

>>7554251
Sage and report guys, sage and report.

>>7555690
Whitman is shit

>>7555695
There is nothing similar between r/books/ and /lit/ other than that we both read combinations of spaces and letters. Everything else is virtually dichotomous.

It's like the difference between a professor doing Joyce studies and a teenage girl reading John Green.

are these people for real?

>>7555719
>/r/books obsesses over shit books

>/lit/ obsesses over shit books

>both think they are better than one another

>both are shit.

Since we're talking about lists what does everyone think about

http://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/news/g2544/80-books-every-person-should-read/

It's basically 90% female authors.

>Yeah, I dont really care about classical literature either. I read all of Asimov's Robot, Empire, Foundation universe novels, read many
Oh God.
>>7554351
We need D&E again
>>7555672
Pleb

You're fucking fucked /lit/
reddits 4chan forum knows about the book you've made and its all the meme-esque type of shit they love. once you see swaglord doing his antics here you better get ready because the board you know is over

>>7554481
>where will I go to read people make fun of john green and reference max stirner?
Honestly want to know this 2bh

>>7555732
I wonder how do these people look irl.
Are they as ugly and incompetent as I imagine them to be?

>>7555759
I guess it's time to shitpost less here and read irl, or try /his/ out.
Not like /lit/ is the standard board of anyone, right? I'm sure most of us have a home board that isn't /lit/.
/a/nalord (and /jp/) here.

>>7555298
>>7554776

>>7554572
>don't you have some literature for 18 y.o. upper middle class white males you should be reading right now?
Yes I do thankfully; none of what you just said is a pejorative, except for the '18' part, white and upper class is a compliment, pleb.
Now go back to your garbage and fuck off.

>>7555785
>Go back there if you don't like prosaic and intelligent literature.
>prosaic and intelligent literature
>prosaic and intelligent
>prosaic

anon...

>>7555752
The books /lit/ reads are thousands of times more complex and intricately-woven than the pop garbage filler r/books/ reads. Go back there if you don't like intricate and intelligent literature.

>>7554628
I think I'm going to have an anyuerism.
Patrician uprising when?
When are we going to line up plebs against a wall?

>>7554918
You redditards just don't get it, it's not just about other people using multiple sites, it's about plebs like you shitting up /lit/ with your garbage taste.

>>7554918
What's interesting is people expect 4chan, an open website, to be off-limits from people who browse the internet. If just one item from here ends up on another site then it's out with the bathwater and the baby - they's takin over our website!

>>7555140
I don't even understand that, if a book is vapid I don't find it entertaining.

>>7555864
>If just one item from here ends up on another site

It's not just one thing. EVERYTHING from 4chan ends of on reddit.

>>7554918
Because then you get what /tv/ has become

>>7555792
>he deleted his post cause he got called out on his shitty vocab and reposted it, kek

>>7555790

>>7555864
It's even funnier when you consider that 4chan is one of the most popular sites on the web.

The same people who get angry about it too, will mostly be newfags who haven't even been here for longer than a few years at most themselves.

>>7555118
I'm not interested in reading Moby Dick either. It's genre just doesn't appeal to me and if I was forced to read it in school like many of them were, I would talk down on it too probably.

>>7555236
If we post /pol/ shit we just attract the /r/redpill and /r/gg crowd
If we post /leftypol/ shit we get the /r/SRS and /r/socialist crowd
But none of them, can handle cp, while 4chan veterans know to jsut report and close the tab for a while, resistors will just leave.

>>7555582
>Poe

>>7555884
>while 4chan veterans know to jsut report and close the tab for a while, resistors will just leave.
so, you're gonna get the permabans for the team? please do.
also, impact shit lost all push years ago. no one cares about goatsee or 1guy1cup anymore.

>>7555732
All the others are shit, but I've heard rather good things about We need to talk about Kevin

>>7555164
>>7555179
>>7555527
You idiots really are autistic.

>>7555773
>I'm sure most of us have a home board that isn't /lit/.
;-;

>>7555905
But they all still are fucking scared to the bones about pedophilia. I mean, look at how many comments just pointed out Lolita.

>>7555952
gb2reddit your autism insults have no power here.

>>7555955
iktf
I lurk /a/ but it's all so banal, I can't write more than two sentences about anything or they'll ignore it. No one cares about expansive analysis of structure, rhythm or visual themes. That and every single show ends up being the same. It's fun for a quick shit, but I couldn't lurk permanently. Then, /lgbt/, of course, but there's a point complaining and relationships gets repetitive.

I really want to have a good /lit/, but we'll have to wait till april for the undergrads to come and compensate a little bit the shitposting.

REDDITORS GET THE FUCK OFF OF MY BOARD YOU'RE PLEBBING IT UP

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Hey fellow Anonymouses, what's your favorite subreddit?

Mine personally is usedpanties, I've met a lot of great friends and got some killer deals there.

>>7554865
Nigger detected.

>>7555868
More like the other way around

>>7556012
This. I have a Reddit Gold account and have obtained over 100,000+ upvotes (upboats, if you will) from my posts, which I have seen time and again recycled on such sites as /lit/ and other meme-friendly webpages. Have you no shame? Stealing from a friendly OC creator?

>>7554790
Send help.

>>7556025
Enough upboats to last me a lifetime.

Many of these memes happen to revolve around atheistic jokes (Darwin, Dawkins, Sam Harris, etc.). But always they are in good spirit and always do they deliver the rofls (laughs).

>>7555864
>>7555874
See >>7555847

>>7555877
Pleb

It's hard being a Redditor and trying to pay my rent off of these memes, especially when /lit/ steals all of them! I am now going to lurk (watch without posting) should /lit/ (thieves, if you will) try to use any of my Reddit memes without my approval. This shall be the end of you, /lit/! A new generation of Reddit has begun!

I just want the redditors to leave. Can whoever uploaded that PLEASE delete it? it might do well for some damage control.

This board has gotten way too big for its own good. We need to separate. Is there a /lit/ on cripplechan?

You ppl need to realize that it's time to get real and flood the real child f***ing tbqh fa.m

>>7556079
‡f***ing (fucking)
tbqh(to be quite honest)
fa.m(fa.mily)
posted by a real gold account redditor

>>7556075
Yes but it's shit, we need to start our own /lit/ Imageboard, but nobody would migrate and it would die.

It's time for some real /pol/shit

MaharynArts1point : 18 days ago

Having frequented /lit/, I can say without a doubt that this is a good list to avoid unless you REALLY love literary writing.

>>7556129
/pol/ stuff just attracts a different kind of redditor. honestly CP spam was the best actual suggestion but I don't have a dynamic IP so fuck that

>>7556189
Holy shit I wouldn't be surprised if this retard is a regular at this grenre-pleb generals.

You guys are talking about a problem that has existed since the dawn of time. People don't lurk. They read a few threads, get a superficial view of a board, and post. The substance and humor comes from posters that somewhat understand the mentality of the people on it. You can blame Reddit and any other website but it's a user problem no matter where they come from.

>>7554251
haha using this meme list.
Come on, it has Harry Potter on it!

>>7556243
Holy shit and Paradise Lost is all the way in the 90s
Fucking meming faggots

>>7554471
Holy shit that is a funny list. It has fucking comic books on it. And don't forget about the Art of War desu!!

>MRW i discovered 4chan through /r/4chan

>>7554471
>all those YA and grocery store checkout books
>all those XDDDD meme choices
>has lovecraft's most meme book

Are normies memes?

Can they think in anything other than ideas other normies had? CALL OF CTHULHU XDFDDD LOVECRAFT IS #EPIC omgggg the hungry caterpillar made me cry so much as a kid ;_;

>>7556292
As usual, another "/lit/izen" (thief) taking my Reddit memes from me. (The "MRW" meme (used to accompany a spoilered picture of Pepe "The Meme Frog") was my own personal creation.) I need the potential upboats (upvotes, if you will) to pay my rent. Don't you thieves understand?!

>>7556349
Let this miscarriaged gimmick die on the floor

>>7556353
Just trying to pay my rent. I'm sure you understand.