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Anonymous Tue Jun 29 23:05:19 2010 No.850771 [Reply] [Original]

>Roark helps Keating design a building for a $60,000 contest
>and by helps I mean fucking does it for him
>Keating wins the contest but already has tons of money; Roark, the true superior architect, has a self made firm that's deteriorating
>Keating visits Roark to give him $500 prize money to reward Roark and plus Keating just wants to help
>it's obviously Keating asking for Roark to not tell anyone that Roark designed the building
>Roark takes the $500 check, signs on the back to pay to the order of Peter Keating
>Roark hands it back to him and tells him he's blackmailing Keating to never tell anyone he designed the building on him because he doesn't want his name on that piece of crap

God damn Roark is a bad ass. Keating is a piece of shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 29 23:07:19 2010 No.850775 You are a pice of crap for falling for one of the most shallow Marty Sue characters ever written.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 29 23:08:19 2010 No.850780 Roark < John Galt < Every other literary character created since beginning of time.

Anonymous Tue Jun 29 23:08:19 2010 No.850785

>>850775

It's actually annoying me that Roark nor Keating has not changed throughout the entire novel so far (just started the second part).

I mean, it's really predictable now. Oh wow Roark didn't take a huge sum of money because he couldn't get his way over one minor detail. Oh wow Keating is being a back stabbing bastard again and sucks are architecture.

I hope they change a little in these last 400 pages.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 29 23:10:19 2010 No.850792 >>850785 Spoiler: they don't. Rand had no idea how to write a three-dimensional character.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 29 23:11:19 2010 No.850794 >>850792 fuuu How in the hell is there 400 pages left of this novel? I can't see it changing at all. Every chapter is the same.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 29 23:12:19 2010 No.850795 >>850794 Welcome to Randsville.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 29 23:12:19 2010 No.850797 >>850794 see>>850780

Anonymous Tue Jun 29 23:35:19 2010 No.850894

>>850785

The only character in a Rand novel that even slightly had character development in an Ayn Rand novel was Hank Rearden, and all he did was go from "I kind of care about my shitty family" to the same "lol man lives for his own good" like every other industry titan in the book.

Basically all characters are either weak, snivelling, back-stabbing, spineless, characterless, talentless, ambitionless wimps, or pillars of strength, reason, fortitude, and integrity who are always badasses, all the time.

Her characters are shit. She writes some good sex scenes though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 29 23:43:19 2010 No.850931 >>850894 She made it quite obvious to her readers that her personal fetish was being dominated + rough sex

Anonymous Tue Jun 29 23:47:19 2010 No.850947

>>850931
Yeah, The Fountainhead's rape scene is one of my top three sex scenes of all-time.

In fact, Rand's not all-that terrible at description in general. I thought her description of Dominique was pretty good. Best part of the novel for me, actually.

Anonymous Tue Jun 29 23:50:19 2010 No.850959

>>850947
Yeah, way to be subtle in her description of Dominique: "She was angular, like a building." I wonder if this will appeal to our hero Roark.

Fact is, if no one has ever described you as "angular" you will never have a chance at being a Randian superhero.

Isabelle Huppert !!IRpnwIFOnYO Tue Jun 29 23:53:19 2010 No.850974
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>>850771
>>850780

>I like Ayn Rand because I can, like, really relate to her characters, you know, like ubermenschen who're just being squashed by The Man and all, guys, but don't worry, someday I'll pull myself up by my bootstraps, just you wait!

>>850947

>In fact, Rand's not all-that terrible at description in general

ohwow.jpg

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 29 23:55:19 2010 No.850986 >>850974 Do you not understand the difference between "greater than" and "less than" when presented in symbolic form?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 29 23:57:19 2010 No.850997 >>850959 I meant apart from the work itself. I'm not OP, by the way. I don't actually have the text by my side; I just remember being able to picture Dominique pretty accurately as soon as I read the description.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 30 00:04:19 2010 No.851021 >>850986 1-2+3 > 3+2-1 is that right?

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