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Essential Nordic literature? I want to understand the culture , i will probably end up living there soon.

>> No.8615030
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>>8615015
http://sagadb.org/ is a great site

Knut Hamsun and Torgny Lindgren for contemporary authors.

>> No.8615032

Hamsun
Hjalmar Söderberg

>> No.8615273

>>8615015
Johannes V. Jensen: The Fall of the King, and 19th to early 20th century realism such as Henrik Pontoppidan.

>> No.8615282

>>8615015
Fuck off we're full

>> No.8615288

The Long Ships desu senpai

>> No.8615299

>>8615015
Ibsen, Hamsun and Knausgaard.

>> No.8615319

>>8615015
Karl Bertil Jonssons julafton.

>> No.8615335

>>8615282
Can i go? I'm black

>> No.8615336

>>8615282
don't worry i will blend in just fine, im white

>> No.8615340

Hamsun and Lagerkvist

>> No.8615352

>>8615336
>>8615335
I don't care if you're blue, green, red or whatever, if you don't belong here.

If you want to emigrate so bad you can move to a meme country like USA or England, leave real countries alone!

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>>8615335
If it wasn't bait, I would tell you to fuck off

>> No.8615372

>>8615352
>>8615361
Wait wat? why can't I go? why is it a problem the fact that I'm black?

>> No.8615374

Red room

Strindberg

>> No.8615386
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>>8615372
Wonder why.

>> No.8615389

>>8615372
We are real countries, not meme countries for everyone like USA and England

>> No.8615394

>>8615389
>not meme countries for everyone like USA and England
What the fuck does that even mean nigga?

>> No.8615402

>>8615394
That we got a /his/tory and a culture. Oh, and a pure population, not mixed with people from all around the globe.

>> No.8615410

>>8615402
Pure race = eventual retards

>> No.8615413

>>8615394
We are tribal kingdoms that have continously existed and been inhabited by the same people since very likely pre-history. The Kingdom of Denmark and The Kingdom of Norway are two of the oldest continuously existing countries in the world. The seeds of our nation were grown in this dirt and they were watered by our blood. We were made for this soil and this soil was made for us.

Foreigners bring imbalance.

>> No.8615419

I am trying to think of a translated author capable of describing the essential Finnish mindscape, but none that are sufficiently published in English come to mind. It's a sad, sobering experience.

Arto Paasilinna is just narrowly considerable as capable. Try The Howling Miller. Just keep in mind, these notions fit poorly into modern Finnish culture.

>> No.8615436

>>8615410
>Pure race = eventual retards
What is this retarded meme now?

>> No.8615440

>>8615413
This tbqh senpai

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>>8615030
This will be a good start.

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Northern parts of Sweden.

>> No.8616237

>>8615015
Icelandic sagas, Hamsun

>> No.8616257

Check out Halldor Laxness from Iceland for comfy lit about shepherds.

>> No.8616295

Per Pettersson, Stig Sæterbakken, Dag Solstad

>> No.8616313

>>8615972
>>/pol/

>> No.8616316

Ibsen, Hamsun, Hauge, Flagstad. Nothing else

>> No.8616328

>>8615015
“2083 – A European Declaration of Independence”

>> No.8616345

Varg is my favourite author desu

>> No.8616444

>>8616295
Sæterbakken is underrated af and Solstad is the modern king of Norwegian authors.

>> No.8616489

Teratologen

>> No.8616804

>>8616257
seconding this

>> No.8616817

>>8616444
I like that story where Stig gives Karl Ove and Linda a foot massage

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>>8616444
>Solstad is the modern king of Norwegian authors.
>>8616316
>Flagstad
>>8616444
>>8616316
>dei pratar med utlendingar
>dei provar å sel inn Noreg til utlendingar
>dei gjer ikkje alt dei kan for å få jævla utlendingar til å holde seg heime
fy faen...

>> No.8616849

>>8616837
Shit ya, I was jerking off in the shower when I typed Flagstad, my bad laddie.

>> No.8617661

>>8615410
This, there are tribes of niggers that are more retarded than gorillas due to the genetic bottlenecking.

>> No.8617676

>>8615015
i've been to Sweden. if you think americans are narcissistic self absorbed faggots, then you don't know Sweden. whole other level man

>> No.8617699

>>8615015
pushkin, gogol, gorky, dostoevsky, tolstoy

>> No.8618139

>>8616837
lol kva er problemet ditt

>> No.8618150

>>8617676
We're not we just don't like ugly people.

>> No.8618156

>>8615015
I like sinuhe egyptian dunno if essential though

>> No.8618157

>>8618139
>lol :^)
Skyd dig selv - hvad tror du? Aberne odelægger den nordiske kultur.

>> No.8618198

>>8618157
Cancer

>> No.8618247

>>8618198
Hope you get it

>> No.8618262

>>8616207
>recommending memelit

>> No.8618271

>>8616489
>le rambling nazi man

>> No.8618294

>>8615015

God fucking damn it I hate /pol/ and all its essence.

To sum up OP, there have been some pretty solid suggestions throughout this thread:

General:
Icelandic Sagas
The Edda

Norwegian:
Anything by Hamsun, though I'd personally recommend his work from youth first (Hunger, Pan, Victoria, Mysteries) followed by Growth of the Soil.

Ibsen, esp. Hedda Gabler, A Doll's House and Peer Gynt

Bjornstjerne Bjornson is also worth checking out, unfortunately I've read very little of him.

Knausgård for popular contemporary Norwegian literature with some merit.

Danish:

Johannes V. Jensen - unfortunately very few works translated to English. But Fall of the King is pretty great.

Henrik Pontoppidan - Lykke-Peer. Probably one of the GOAT coming of age novels.

Tom Kristensen - Havoc. Get the oldest translation you can find. The rights was recently bought by a British banker who did the translation alone, and, according to himself, changed passages he didn't like or cut them out entirely. Fucking travesty.

H.C. Andersen for meme points. He's fine but vastly overrated.

Kierkegaard for real street credit. Either/Or, Fear and Trembling, Repetition, The Concept of Anxiety, Stages on Life's Way and Sickness unto Death.

Swedish:

Everything by Strindberg. I don't really know any Swedish literature beyond that.

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>>8615410
>>8617661
actually if i remember correctly second cousin is enough of a genetic difference to avoid any sort of negativity from inbreeding. its when you breed any closer than that when the negative consequences happen

so yeah "muh genetic diversity multiculturalism" is a meme

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>>8618294
fy faen...

>> No.8618327

>>8618320
I think its legal to marry your cousin in Sweden (or it used to be at least). So i guess normal cousins are ok too

>> No.8618340

>>8618320
No actual retardation in phlius generation doesn't make the advantages of a diverse gene pool a meme.

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>>8618327
its legal in most countries

>blue = legal
>>8618340
yeah it does. there is not genetical benefit of breeding a black person with an asian person for example. not more than breeding two asians from the same country anyhow

>> No.8618366

>>8618362
based china
bastion of civilization

>> No.8618397

>>8618320
There aren't clear-cut rules like that. It depends on the diversity of the gene pool.

>> No.8618402

>>8618157
You're the one ruining nordic culture asswipe

>> No.8618421

>>8616444
Sæterbakken is a pathetic, whiny bitch. He writes like he is on /adv/. Solstad is pretty good , tho

>> No.8618424

>>8618402
By being against multiculturalism? Sure pal.

>> No.8618439

>>8615436
do you into genetics

>> No.8618443

>>8615352
I love nordic nationalism, especially when it comes to the Danes / Swedes. It's the funniest type of nationalism because they are unaware how incredibly dumb they seem when they proclaim their country (and most of the time also their products) as superior to others

>> No.8618454

>>8618443
>they proclaim their country (and most of the time also their products) as superior to others
That's exactly what nationalism is all about, right? Retard.

>> No.8618459

>>8618454
It's not, but it however is entailed in the nordic sort of nationalism. The whole idea of being proud of your country is stupid and for idiotic people anyway.

>> No.8618475

>>8615336
>>8615372
We do have a quiet, xenophobic culture, but no matter what color you are you will never fit in when moving to a Nordic country, you will ALWAYS be an outsider.
You can get close to people, make friends and people will treat you well, but you will never be "one of us". You can move here, but unless you speak the language flawlessly you will never be fully accepted, so be ready for that.

For gods sake WE can't even get close to our own people. Once you're past middle or high school most friend groups are set and new people are not let it.

>> No.8618494

>>8618475
Whoever wants to join an evidently collective group of idiots that have a hard time getting close to or accepting others, ought to consider what he or she is doing in the first place.
Have the nords fallen victim to collective autism?

>> No.8618495

>>8616207
>>8618262
that book is memelit? I've never seen it mentioned here before. Also it's a fantastic book. The movie adaptation is also great.

>> No.8618496

>>8618459

socialism fails without strong cultural (in europe often synonymous with national) identity.

>> No.8618505

>>8618494
>Whoever wants to join an evidently collective group of idiots that have a hard time getting close to or accepting others, ought to consider what he or she is doing in the first place.
Yep. Problem is they don't know that we are all autismo. They think they can just come here and get in on all the good stuff, but when they arrive they're treated awkwardly like those charity collectors that interrupt people on the street.

>> No.8618604

>>8618459
Are you a teenager who thinks all nationalistic people are like teenaged nationalists? People in scandinavia aren't particularly more nationalist than anyone else. And the ones who are do not have some irrational superiority complex. The reason why nationalism is on the rise in scandinavian countries is because scandinavia is being flooded with non-western immigrants whose culture is perceived to be incompatible with theirs. This goes for the rest of Europe as well. Reactionary politics is a natural result of the sort of political climate currently being cultivated in Europe. In the face of foreign cultures that threaten ones own culture, a large portion of people WILL reinforce what they perceive to be a traditional national identity as a REACTION to the foreign influence and the policies that allow it.

>> No.8618615

>>8615015
Read "Markings" by Dag Hammarsköld. It's a great book on the topic of nordic spiritualism and general outlook on life.

>> No.8618888

>>8618424
No, by being an insufferable pedantic anti-social whiny bitch, of course

>> No.8619195

>>8615015
>>8615273
>>8618294
Here is an extract form Fall of the King:

It broke him. He sailed back and forth until dawn came. When the sun rose he was on the Fyn side, and there he stayed, simply because he happened to be there.
But no ... it was not by chance, and it was not the sunrise that put an end to the king's agonizing indecision. No, it is written that he who doubts will always, always end in default, letting die that cause which is the wellspring of his doubt.

>> No.8619767

Tomas Tranströmer and Gunnar ekelöf. Gunnar ekelöf is great. Take a look at Bergman's production too if you are moving to scandinavia.

Except for Knausgård one of the Viggestorp contemporary writers is Yayha Hassan.

>> No.8619782

Why are Norwegian writers so much better than Swedish writers?

>> No.8619816

>>8615410
Agreed

>> No.8619823

>>8615413
Are you sure about that?

>> No.8619830

>>8615413
>We were made for this soil and this soil was made for us

lol

>> No.8619840

>>8615413
So in a way you're all the growth of the soil.

>> No.8619881

>>8615352

>England

Given we're out the EU and becoming racist, you can't talk you fucking heinaken monkey.

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>>8615015
The Kalevala

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>>8618888
Great conclusion.

>> No.8619940

>>8619933
Multiculturalism isn´t necessarily destructive to a society or the norms that go with said societies, but it need to be implemented properly. Not á la Merkel.
If you look at the Netherlands for example, which experienced a surge of workers in the 60´s, very proper and thorough going immigration was achieved. This being possible even though the Turks were still retaining their own culture in their own household.

That being said, it is a nuanced problem, and a yes or no reasoning isn´t going to do it any good.