/lit/ - Literature

>>9137412
Its unorthodox but I'd actually say read The Social Contract first since it's much easier and provides an entry level amount of knowledge about the concept.

Aside from that some history of the Civil War is probably a good idea, so you know where Hobbes is coming from historically and politically.

>>9137448
Thank you anon, i read Locke's two treatises of goverment before trying to read this one, so i have a minimal notion of what hobbes talk in Leviathan, but i will consider reading Rousseau frist too.

Im in chapter 4 or so, and i feel like i dont have enough knowledge to understand completely what is talking about regarding to lenguage ,thought and logic, i suppose he was referencing the greeks, but i don't know where to start with those. Plato's republic and Aristotle are a must to understand hobbes?

>>9137448
Who's civil war? This book preceded the US civil war by 200+ years.

>>9137553
who is civil war indeed

>>9137559
I'd take my faux pas over yours any day.

>>9137553
is this a bait

>>9137553
op here, im not this guy .

>>9137612
>Being so insecure that you need to confirm that you aren't another anon.
Wow.

>>9137679
not because im insecure , but these threads go to shit after troll messages like that. And im interested in getting some serious replies honestly.

>>9137412
Not much, especially if you read only the Leviathan.

All you need is a good critical edition of Leviathan.

>>9138040
Supra's correct, op. Hobbes a remarkably clear writer.

>>9137550
are you unfamiliar with philosophy? Hobbes is responding to medieval scholasticism and their ancient antecedents in the first book. if you're mainly interested in politics, you can safely read just the second book and skip the rest.

>Hobbes

>>9137412
literally nothing. Watch the intro video by Dr. Sadler if you want, or read the SEP entry. I'd imagine any Leviathan would have a solid enough intro nowadays. The penguin edition has an intro interpreting it through a marxist lens (trigger warning)

>>9138266

>The penguin edition has an intro interpreting it through a marxist lens

How is this allowed?

>>9138272
because Marx was a really smart analyst of power just as Hobbes. Try not conflating Marx and his ridiculous cult

>>9138292

>Marx was a really smart analyst of power

>>9138317

>>9138333

Why'd you post Jim Carrey, friend?

>>9138266
>>9138272

>reading the introductions

>>9138356
>reading the books

>>9138317
Number of people who appreciate Sam Hyde's comedy: under a million

Number of people who Marx's ideology influenced: most of eurasia and a great deal of the western world

>>9138379

>Appeal to Popularity

>>9138256
I am yeah, im mostly interested in political philosophy but im still interested in the other fields too. Which are those ancient antecedents?

>>9137412

I would start with the Greeks tbqh op