/lit/ - Literature

>>9234177
the redpill, /pol/. white identity politics, and masculinity.

When I found 4chan

Probably computer networking around 18. It's something we take for granted, an invisible infrastructure that powrrsost of modern communications. Whe. I realized all internet connected machines have an IP address and can be accessed through its ports... My mind blew up on the possibilities of exploit and ways to counteract being exploited at that network level (usually a firewall).

>>9234179
Is this the same fucking poster?

I like books.

>>9234190
>realized all internet connected machines have an IP address
Most nowadays do but it's not a requirement.

>>9234208
If it's connected to some internet then yes it will have an IP. They put network capability on too many useless things.

Just imagine when the 'Internet of Things' ramp up and we have an entry point into someone's network through his oven toaster.

Wildlife science

Watching Crocodile Hunter as a sprog

>>9234196
someone has to perpetuate the "/pol/ is spreading" meme

>>9234177
Books.
I was reading plenty already, but I think it really hit me the first time I read Snow Country.

Music
Taste has changed a lot, but probably the first time I sat through and listened to all of Kid A. It was Idioteque that did it.

>>9234233
>what is NAT
your wet dreams are silly

I'm passionate aboutdeath. This is the truth. I love death in all it's various forms. But there are some i love more than others. I do love for example the beautiful death. The heroic death. The death as suicide, though not every kind of suicide. I love particularly japanese notions of death, which I have gotten to know through Mishima. He recites Rilke and before i read him I also refered to Rilke, his musings on death in the diarys of Malte. A beautiful book no? Very very beautiful, one of my favourites. I don't know anything about Rilke. I know he was fascinated by Nietzsche, and knew Lou Salome, and that he was in Paris and that he wrote Poetry. I know what he looks like. And of course i know something about him by reading his one novel. And yet i do not know him the way i know Mishima or Kafka or so. But does that matter? I am obsessedw ith death, why? I would like to say that this is not everything i have to say. I also love life. Moreso than death even. So why did i not say my great passon was life? Because i can not live out my passion. Because i am like a caged bird, with the tragic twist that the cage is open and that i ave grown to scared to leave it. Writing this i guess i could say that my really greatest passion is fear. Fear accompanies me everywhere. It is a fear of giving oneself up, a fear of adaption, a fear of accenptance and rejection, a fear of failure, a fear of being amoral, a fear of uglyness, a fear of life and death, a fear of mysef and of others, of the system and of my fear of the system. It is a fear of unboundedness. A fear of Aliens who have implanted microchips in my brain. A fear spiritual emptyness. A fear of being all wrong and of being half wrong. A fear of wasting time. A fear of listing up all the fears that spontaenously come to my mind. Fear is my greatest passion. Fear of Life equals Fear of Death? Nobody would say that. For me it is true though, insofar that i fear to fear my life until i die and that i won't have lived fearless before i die.

I feel like mimicking David Foster Walace. Does this make any sense? This is all going to get cut out right= Yeah.... Yeah cool tshirt bro is that a fucking fucking dog in your sleeping room. And but so the author wondered whether this stylistic experiment could be lead to it's conclusion which is that i am here regardless of what i say. That i am physical that i am material. I am disposable. And Insane. I am in the most liberal sense, a white straight CIS male. I lied, i'm only half straight. It's complicated.

I am not running out of things to say, for example i believe that video games need a great theory. A grand and great theory that introduces it into the philosophical realm. An aesthetic theory. All this pomo american analysis stuff is too academical, it lacks vision and eye . I'm lying, ihaven't read a single book about video game theory. But i'm reading Balasz book on films, and if you exchange "film" with "vidya" in the intro it would fit perfectly

>>9234233
Neither of the application that use the internet require IP, specifically. The layers of the OSI model are independent of each other. You could send HTTP packets directly over ethernet if both parties were aware of it.

The internet is a cluster of intranets. There is no requirement about how the intranets are implemented as long as they can talk to each other through a bilingual gateway.

history, always have been.

>>9234491
This, and paleontology along with books and children's card games. Also music, just listening though I have no interest in composing.

i am passionate about those whom i love

>>9234177
I don't have any. Life wasn't meant to spent on one passion.

Destroying theism when I turned 30.

>>9234434
>You can send HTTP packets over Ethernet
Quite right. But you need a destination for that packet which is usually an IP and a port.

>>9234177
Reading when I was 10; books when I was 14. Also, now that I'm a father, I want to be as decent a parent as I can.

>>9234177
Physics, literature and history since I was very young. All come from a rule we had at home: the only activity other than sleeping allowed after bedtime is reading. I'm 32 years old so no cellphones or computers when I was a kid. My mom was a physics professor so there was material in the house. Literature gave me Homer and Homer gave me history.
When I turned 18 I got a VHS that actually worked (the one we had was crap) and I soon discovered real cinema. The ending scene of City Lights made me realize how powerful a movie can be. Since then I'm a cinema freak.
At 22 I discovered a fervent passion for teaching and this is what I do for a living.
Music is something I can't count as a passion because is just part of me. My mom played de piano, my father the cello. I never played shit but I feel like I'd die from sadness without music. You can take anything from me but music.
It took me many years to learn to enjoy all of these together. The feeling that 24 hours a day for an average of 75 years is too little oppressed me for the most part of my life. I'm glad that is over.

>>9234177
I'm kinda still finding out. All my life I've been into technology and guitar, but at around 16 I got deep into classical music, basically spent every day doing nothing but listening to the shit, from ockeghem to cage and everything in-between. If anyone remembers that youtube channel magischmeisjeorkest, I used to love that shit before it got deleted, something about classical music and anime, I liked that aesthetic. During that time I got interested in philosophy, particularly scholastic philosophy. At age 17 I started playing viola, and at 18 moved to violin, I learned the partita no.2 for solo violin by bach in full, and saint-saens introduction and rondo capriccioso which I think I'm able to play to a decent enough standard.
I was home schooled most of my life, only attending public school up until the end of the 2nd grade. I'm 19 now and entering community college, planning to transfer to UW for computer engineering, but also doubtful about abandoning music. Lately I've been into zizek, hegel, marx, socialism etc. Not necessarily because I advocate or agree with them, but because I think there's something that they missed or failed to attain to which I call Catholic socialism (not 'Christian socialism').
I'm also pretty interested in the relationship between ontology and quantum theory, I think that with one or two more swings of the dialectical pendulum we might make a groundbreaking discovery in philosophy, thus reconciling the universal with the particular and marking the beginning of a new golden era of mankind, which in some albeit confused sense may have been the case during the carolingian renaissance.

>>9234177

The truth

>>9235330
wow, I'm transferring to UW for computer science next year after I complete my AA at my current community college. small world.

>>9234177
i don't fckking know

>>9235203
>The feeling that 24 hours a day for an average of 75 years is too little oppressed me for the most part of my life.
How the flying fuck does anyone have this mindset? Do you just feel euphoria as a base state?

>>9235330
u must get mad puusy white boy

>>9235361
Actually I'm a kissless hugless virgin.

I'm genuinely 'passionate' about anime. It's hard to explain without seeming to contradict myself.

I'm disgusted by intellectualism and all other forms of arm-chairery.
The only thing worse than intellectualism is flowery sentimentalism. When I was a teenager, I loved romanticism. Now, I see why Goethe tried his hardest to distance himself from Werter.

I feel I would be better off in an Anabaptist settlement.
>>9235203
>Homer gave me history
No he didn't. Oral tradition doesn't work that way.

Absolute pseud.

I'm "passionate" about making a lot of money and I realized this around the time I realized I have no personality, goals, or aspirations.

what does lit do when it turns out all your calculations were wrong

Nothing.

>>9235403
that's what poors never understand about protestant mother fuckers who love to work and stack paper, THAT is their passion, they love it!

>>9235415
Calculate anew, it's wrong to think in terms of calculation and result, there is no payout in life, there's only the eternal pulling of the lever in superfluous self-imparting passion; sink into the noise of reality to be free from the awkward hesitation of the self.
In my opinion desu.

>>9235422
Nothing is fun to me besides seeing my bank account have a bigger number every week. I wish it was for some spiritual reason like because I believe anything other than hard work is a sin or something interesting but truly I just enjoy accumulating wealth. I manipulated to Animal Crossing turnip stock market as a kid. That's the closest I've come to a hobby.

Beauty - ever since I first looked in the mirror.

the concept of Home as a spiritual ideal

the forms, the space, the shape of a lost memory of a garden - THE place, where all fleeting glimpses of bliss converge to paint a full picture, laced with all the senses, electric colors, and implied beyond the boundary of the aclove, a whole world waiting to be explored that is the perfect extension of your absolute longing

>>9235415
stop using a calculator to learn about life

>>9235416
zero faith in your ability to follow through with what you know are smoldering enthusiasms. we all have them, its a matter of exploring uncertainty to gain greater clarity, which you are doing

>>9235505
I like you

Nothing. Maybe suicide. Years ago.

>>9235333
>>9235555

overload of realness w/ these digits

>>9235555

>>9234731
Do you guys have any recommendations for how I can learn about this stuff? Books I should read? I can pick things up pretty quickly, and have taken a few intro CS courses in college, but don't have any formal education in it

>>9235628
Start with the fucking wikipedia and follow the links as you encounter complex topics, as usual.

>>9235528
*reads poetics of space once*

>>9235640
I haven't but I plan to.
If that's what its about then fuck me im bumping it to the top of the next to read

>>9235635
I feel like that's not formulaic enough -- how will I know if I've covered all the important bases, for example?

>>9235645
Since you won't study it in depth anyway, this way you will at least get a general idea. IT is not that complex of a field to require a formal education to truly grasp.

>>9235645
whatch some computer science classes on youtube, god if you're that helpless you probably won't make it in tech, technology is all about teaching yourself shit normies are too lazy to, this applies whether u have a bunch of hifalutin degrees or are just the proverbial "400 lb guy in a basement"

>>9235348
I did.

>>9235394
Yes he did. Through him I discovered I wanted to know about shot that happened you know? I was a kid.

>>9234177
Scuba diving.

>>9234177
>Firearms
Basically all my life, maybe started at 3 or 4 when I seen my grandfather's rifles/shotguns on the wall, or it could have been when I got 007 Goldeneye around the year 2000.

>Writing
Around 2003, however when I started writing books Summer last year I found a passion in writing that I never knew I had. I love it. I will be writing and publishing books for as long as I live, and it will provide me a quality of life that probably no other profession could give me, even if all I ever manage from it is to pay rent/the bills, put food on the table, and feed ammo to my firearms once in a while.

>Alcohol
2011 or so, but 2013 is when I really got into it.

>Cannabis legalization
2008

>Zombie survival
2004-5 or so

>Reading
Probably around 2002 or so with the Harry Potter series, but 2012 is when I really started reading. One downside of writing; I no longer have much time to read anymore. Been picking away at a pretty small book yet it's taking me almost half a year to finish up.

>Reloading ammo
About 2009-10 or so. Can describe the process if anyone's interested, it's actually in one of my books, all of which are free for the next couple days.

>Landing on Mars
1999-2000 or so. It was something I wanted to do as a little kid, but not really anymore. Imma stay on Erf.

>>9235555
The quads are telling you to find a hobby.

I used to think I was passionate about many things, but I don't know anymore. Its seems to keep alluding me when I try to recapture it.
Life feels like I'm banging my head against a wall.

Intimacy; a few weeks ago

>>9234421
Where do you live?

>>9234177
Pussy. Childhood.

I am not passionate about anything, but I have managed to sustain an interest in philosophy and literature for many years. I consider passion to be an effeminate and mediterranean/third world trait.

>>9234177
I thought it was medieval history but now that I'm doing a masters in it I've realised I have a really poor level of knowledge in it.

Self determinism
I have no power

>>9235555
them DIGITTTTTTTTTTTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>9236294
I'm interested in the reloading method. What was it that made you passionate about it? Did it tie into the firearms interest? Is it just a cathartic process?

>>9236294
>Free books
>FREE

POST LINK NOW

I'm really passionate about chronic masturbation.

No idea.

>>9236220
>Yes he did. Through him I discovered I wanted to know about shot that happened you know?
Can't you form a coherent sentence?

>Video Games
Age 5
>Literature
Age 20 - I've always been a reader, but I only got serious about "literature" during my 3rd year of uni.

drinking beer listening to music and masturbating at the same time is the only thing I enjoy doing anymore

I look at my bookshelf and think of how I used to love reading all that stuff and I get sad.

>>9235394
>I'm disgusted by intellectualism
Can you elaborate on this? I'm only asking because I think I feel the same way.

Talking to an imaginary audience and saving every original thought to notepad

Two years ago

Aggrandizing my palaver.

Anarchist Socialism

About two years ago I learned to call it by name, but it's been very important to me as long as I can remmeber

I haven't found any passion

>>9234177
Poetry. I've realized it after reading poetry. After reading Rimbaud, Miljkovic (pic), and Mallarme. I realized, I wanted to be free, and want to be free of the chains of language and give myself to sense and feeling and musicality of words -- aka poetry.

>>9237993
forgot pic

I realized my passion is in the Arts such as Literature, Painting, and Music. In addition, Learning constantly I always find interesting and Creation of Something gives me satisfaction.

>>9237669
:(

>>9234177
Gay scat porn, right now.

>>9234177
Reaching a dreaded point where I have exhausted all my interests as being dead ends ruined by my incompatibility, intolerance and unwillingness to bear other people in order to pursue my interests, past the point of passionate misanthropy too, now I am only passionate about roaming the countryside and forests aimlessly enjoying nature and reading Nietzsche and others in no man's land. I start one project and when the slightest imperfection presents itself all my will dissipates as it gnaws through my crumbled fortitude with ease.

One thing in the past that I was very passionate other than art was running, I was really into it, then I was getting more and more into poetry and music, which led me to Buddhism. After around two years of being passionate about Buddhism I got back into literature and art (I was still into it when I was a Buddhist, but I was moslty into Buddhist art then). Now I'm rather passionate about art, I draw and when I'll have more time and get better at drawing I'll start painting, listen to music and read. Other than that, I just love to walk, walk and think, walk and look at everything, at nature, at buildings, at people.

>>9234177
Study of religion and Asian languages
Freshman year of uni for the former, sophomore for the latter

>>9235528
>>9237993
>>9238277
>>9238318
>>9236912
Could you people be any more pretentious if you tried?

>>9238388
I was being derogatory on my own account?
Do you struggle with uncommon words or something?

>>9238388
what's so pretentious about drawing and walking?

>>9235203
goddamn I'm envious of you anon

HAPPY TRAILS!

>>9235330
those are some interesting interests, anon!

Absolutely nothing. The only reason I come to /lit/ instead of /r9k/ is that the latter was filling me with homicidal rage, and /lit/ was the last place I visited before I went to /r9k/ (the last thing I saw before things fell apart).

I don't like reading, or writing, or music, or films, or video-games, or any form of art. I'm not interested in philosophy, or history, or religion or anything like that. I'm not interested in any of the sciences or the various branches of mathematics or computer science. I'm even lazy and detached when it comes to sex and love, which are the only things that, sometimes, I succeed in persuading myself that I want. Needless to say, however, (as with all other things) my lack of action betrays a total lack of motivation.

I want, more than anything else, to be swallowed up by a passion, to be totally consumed by it to the point that I can utterly lose myself in it. All I want is to WANT something. To find a job that you enjoy, and to find a partner. Those are the two things everybody needs.. and I feel like I'm too lost to find either one.

Apologies for the frogposting. I prefer Wojak, but I can't find any pics of him where he's making this expression.

To anyone who's read this far--how did YOU find your passions and interests? Did you have to search for them, or did they just fall on you?

>>9238634
Surely there was something you enjoyed doing during childhood and adolescence

Start there and ask yourself why you enjoyed those activities. That's the root of your passion. From there you can find other activities that have the same root and try them without stopping for 31 days. After the 31 days you can decide if you want to continue or try another

>>9238634
>the last place I visited before I went to /r9k/ (the last thing I saw before things fell apart).

you are like the sufferer of a nervous illness who returns many years later to the institution which last treated him

be at peace my friend

>>9238634
You might be depressed?

Otherwise this is incomprehensible to me, literally everything is interesting to some degree.

>>9235203
>>9235330
i used to have an aversion to posts like this because it'd make me feel like shit (and envious) for being a dumb, lazy, older piece of shit, but now I'm forcing myself to hopefully awaken something in me.

anyone know this feel?

>>9238634
I'm sort of similar. I enjoy many activities but there are none I feel I could really dedicate my life towards. There are some things like literature and romance that I can pretend to love for extended times, but I get bored with them too after a while.

>>9238731
Yes. Envy is a very tempting emotion, but it's like really BAD if you think about it.

For a long time, seeing happy people really pissed me off. But I've since realized how dumb that is. It should make me happy. Maybe all men are brothers, maybe we don't have to go so far. But being happy for someone is free. Like Jesus' parable of the workers who are hired at different times of the day. No need for spite.

And you also don't really need to feel bad for being worse. Everyone dumps their stats into a different thing, and while the goodness of a THING is a good standard by which we can determine its usefulness, people are not judged by the same standards, as they can always improve.

>>9238694

not who you replied to but

>tfw you had no interests as a child
>tfw my mother told me that i was markedly different from my siblings for the reason that it was noticeable that i didn't have any curiosity or interest in anything

i have vague interests in philosophy, biology, film, etc. these are things that i'm drawn to and would like to learn about but there's no passion that i can do for 12 hours a day and lose track of time doing. i've read some short stories and essays before and enjoyed it but its nothing consistent, but i use the fact that i have enjoyed them in the past to keep me reading, learning, etc. every day..

just gotta overcome apathy and i'll probably be better for it

know some basic german and arabic, a good amount of french, so i guess i have some interest in language but no passion... feelsbad! i even make sure to be disciplined and go rockclimbing and exercise and eat well and all this gay shit but no passion! Sad!

Purity, ever since I tried lard.

While I find many things interesting, nothing inspires passion anymore. When I was younger I loved to draw.

>>9238786
lol

>>9238756
>And you also don't really need to feel bad for being worse.
it's not really that, it's the feeling of regret and wasted time.

I should've at least been at this level of maturity in high school, instead I didn't do much of anything at all, socially nor academically. I've been emotionally and intellectually stunted up until only recently.

>>9238878
It sounds blunt and cruel, but wasted time is wasted time. It no longer exists. The only way to heal it is to live better moving forward (much easier said than done!).

>>9238694
Excellent advice anon. I'll try what you advise. Thank you!

>>9238711
Thanks

>>9238730
That sounds like a wonderful way to be! I probably am depressed... but it's not as if that doesn't arise from a world.

I started reading when I was a night watchman and didn't have anything else to do. The other guys usually brought computers to spend their time gaming, but I decided to make the most out of it and pursued some university studies on the side.

>>9238634
At least you're not too stupid
This post shows that you have a decent level of intelligence
Are you a pessimist or a nihilist? Fuck memes and fuck classifying yourself, but I'm curious as to where your lack of motivation may come from
I'd recommend you a book but if you're not gonna read it, why bother

>>9234177
I'm not sure. My instincts might have been torn or burnt. If left for a while, the nerves might repair?

>>9238277
>>9238395
>>9238277
Maybe we should try Russian Fatalism out as a passion? The idea being, that if we self-consciously evade even the slightest and most subtle inclinations to ressentiment (nevermind tolerating *actions* of this kind), we would be brought back to a hygienic, minimalist, calm, stoic, epicurean clearing, in which our newly innocent, cocooned disposition might easily reveal and blossom our passions to ourselves (assuming the problem is that we aren't self-aware of them but they are there, or will be).

>roaming the countryside and forests aimlessly enjoying nature and reading Nietzsche and others in no man's land
This redeems your post, and yet likely isn't even a good expression of what you experience in that clean air.

>>9239033
Thanks!

I'm not a pessimist, or a nihilist. I think that most people's lives are more happy than they are sad, and I think that there is always a right thing to do.

The only way I spend my time these days (when I'm not in class or studying) is by reading books, so I would be glad to read one you recommended to me.

>>9238899
How do you know that you are truly living better? I look back at the things I've done even just a few years ago, and I cringe at my immaturity. How do I know that I won't cringe at my present self in the future?

>>9239145
You spend your time reading books? You said you don't like reading
Anyways, it's the Book of disquiet by Pessoa

>>9234177
It's always changing. I wish I didn't always get tired of everything desu.

>>9234177
I don't really know. I've dabbled in mathematics, computer science, physics, history, philosophy, sociology, music, art, and probably more. So many things interest me, but I wish I could find a balance where I can focus on just a few things and really master them. I'm really uncomfortable with the idea of making sacrifices. In an ideal world, I would learn absolutely everything that I wanted to. I would be a Renaissance man, so to speak.

I know some people claim to be polymaths, but I wonder just how practical that is, and if they know any particular subject at a decent amount of depth. Ironically, I waste a lot of time worrying about whether this is a worthwhile/practical pursuit, instead of reading/learning.

>>9235628
Read the /sci/ wiki

>>9239163
>I cringe at my immaturity. How do I know that I won't cringe at my present self in the future?
Different anon here, would you be better if instead you were not embarrassed by those certain things at all? Determining how to live better is a continuous process. What you do today you may realise is wrong tomorrow and that in itself is progress. You have grown from those recent years, your feelings for the memories are evidence enough. And you will cringe at something recent in a few years (like how I might cringe at writing this post). All that matters is that you remain aware of what you do, consider reasons why you do things and keep >>9238899 in mind.

I know its /lit/'s favorite meme but the Greeks might help.The stoics in particular helped me

>>9234177
Neurodegenerative disease, when my grandad died of Parkinson's. Starting a PhD in Alzheimer's in October

>>9238388
Boyo your sentence was actually incomprehensible.
>Yes he did. Through him I discovered I wanted to know about shot that happened you know? I was a kid.
What in the fuck does this mean?

>>9239475
He meant:
>Yes, he did. Though him, I discovered that I wanted to know about shit that happened. Ya know? I was a kid.

>>9239493
>implying there is any reliable literary history of the Trojan War

Bucket drummer

>>9234177
Creating a marketable celebrity persona that blends art, pop and social commentary.
Realized at a Kanye West concert

>>9239185
I don't enjoy reading, but it's the least painful option available to me.

I'll read the book of disquiet.

>>9234177


Staying inside, not working, not going to school, talking on 4chan, masturbating, and hoping to die.

Last week. I'm 35

>>9234177
RF waves and radio communication

After I spent time in the military intercepting Russian/Chinese comms

I've never really had a "passion" but the only thing that's come close is actually preparing for conversations with friends. I can go for hours researching a topic by writing down questions and trying to answer them for myself on a topic, but other than that I've just been trying to structure my life with habits. This has become harder when I have Aristotle telling me I consist entirely of habits, and then Nietzsche advocating for the Dionysian side of life.

I guess I would be passionate with structure, if that makes any sense. I've tried out guitar, line drawing, poetry, short stories, game dev, web dev, singing but nothing sticks unless I dedicate a habit to it. Maybe this is part of my nature, I dunno.

~my diary desu

I've had several passions in the last 6 years alone. Only 3 have been preserved. Currently my passions are
>War
>Slavic History and Languages
>Theology
>Welding
>Cynicism a la Diogenes

The first two were interesting to me at a young age, I wanna say 5 or 6, when I wanted to learn more about the East, as it was barely covered in history books and the Eastern Front of Both world wars interested me.

Theology and Welding came later. I'm interested in Theology before and during my conversion, I'm still learning out more of the detailed kinks, but I have a sufficient understanding of it. Welding came at age 22 when I realized I needed to learn a useful skill rather than getting paid to shitpost and I figured turning wrenches was too easy so I chose welding. Plus after learning the skills, you are always constantly learning more about the trade.

I became cynical at age 18 when I didn't want to be in HS but didn't want to be in college and only wanted to work because I had no idea of what I wanted and going to college would fuck it up worse (and it did)

Poetry. During a three year major depressive episode / subsequent hospitalization. Had a few things published online. Would love to be decent enough to be included in anthologies someday. Also passionate about alleviating the suffering of others, realized slightly later.

people need to stop asking how passionate i am every second of my life fuck

>>9234177
National Socialism. Three years ago. I have never been in better health, had more confidence, and felt this stable in a long, long time.

Music, I'm classically educated. I've realized that I'm passionate about it when I heard Pathetique Sonata 5 years ago.
Now I'm dreaming of writing an opera.

I've always hopped from thing to thing, never having a constant hobby for longer than a couple months besides instant gratification like videogsmes. Every year in school when people were asked about their future, I had a different answer every time. I have no idea what I am passionate about.

I'm not passionate about anything because I'm a low attention span, undereducated millenial who smoked and drank his way through high school and jumped into a full-time retail job straight after. Used to love drawing but had interests in music, literature, film, physics and biology, military history, philosophy, etc. In hindsight I was never intelligent enough to pursue those interests and do something with them. I was a pseud, now I'm a turbopleb. Reality has started to dawn on me quite recently and I'm not mentally equipped enough, nor do I have the energy to prepare for when it bites. I worry, but then I get drunk and go to work the next day. Such is life.

My waifu, when I watched her anime

>>9236294
>>Cannabis legalization
>>Zombie survival
holy shit neck yourself

>>9236346
My kind of guy.

At the moment, nothing. Gave up on all of them when I realized it was too late to seriously engage with them.

>>9241019
bet he's pissed that every single 10th grader in the past half century has said essentially the same thing

>>9241193
tbqh I think Nietzsche would be very happy with the fact that every high-schooler thinks that. Even if the music they like sucks.

>>9234177
I like having enough money to live in a decent apartment without having to do manual labor. I found that out about the time I was a homeless day laborer and had to work my way back up.

>>9241203
No he wouldnt. Fucking pleb

>>9241002
you don't have to be super intelligent to pursue something you love.

>>9234177
Reading books, blogs, debating ideas and working out. Nothing else is remotely as interesting.

>>9234177

I have a whole bunch of stuff I like:

Running, weights, philosophy, literature, web-design, guitar.

But the only thing I think I'm really passionate about is film. I studied film and regret doing so because it's a path to nowhere but man oh man I still absolutely love discussing movies for hours.

Shame, really, as right now I have absolutely nobody to talk about them with IRL. I'm thinking of starting a YouTube channel or something.

>>9241892
starting a youtube channel sounds like a good idea, at least for some practice and get the old gears turning. my mates studying film and makes film essays and posts them on youtube, gets a decent amount of views for what it is.

I mostly like ideas.

>>9236577
Tied into my firearm interest as well as my interest in survivalism. It's fairly simple as well as cheap and portable if you do it the right way.

>Reloading book
>Lee hand press
>bullets
>powder
>powder measure
>primers
>casings

I'm a bit busy at the moment but if I get the chance I'll go into more detail.

>>9236581
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M7S2Z0R
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MSKQJ5S
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XK5P6QV

>>9243621
>>9236577
So here's how you reload. Take your spent casing, deprime/resize it with the same die in your press. Reprime it. Measure a proper amount of powder for the type of powder you use, then use an appropriately weighted bullet, seat it, perhaps crimp it if it's in an aggressive semi-auto that might threaten to push the bullet into the casing itself when trying to chamber it violently. That's about it. Oh, and you should clean your casings, but lately I've been questioning the need for this. Perhaps someday I'll experiment in not cleaning casings, but I always clean them thus far.

I've had trouble finding my "gift", and by that I mean most naturally inclined way to help mankind. Any reading for this?

>>9241907
It's never a good idea to start a YouTube channel

The Mafia.

Maybe because I'm of italian descent, maybe because I just like the mastermind wiseguy archetype.

I just love it to bits.

>>9235628
I would personally start with learning about low level computing/networking/embedded systems ("low level" meaning "fundamental", not "easy"). The higher level "IT" stuff becomes a lot more intuitive once you have a good grasp of the bits and bytes.

>>9234374
>IPv6
>NAT
Now who's being silly?

>>9235203
Hey, do you have any advice for someone who wants to get into teaching philosophy or Stem?

How to find a passion?

I find meaning in my job at the moment but that's only because I have nothing else.

>>9244698
I second this question. Another anon in this thread said: "Think of something you enjoyed in childhood and adolescence and try to return to it."

But I want a second opinion DESU, nothing really jumps out to me... maybe I'll ask my mother.

>>9239222
Checked, and I feel the exact same way. The biggest problem of course being time, and how it's so limited. I think for most people, you can have a wide arrange of skills and pursuits, but if you want to make a meaningful contribution, you're going to have to narrow your priorities a lot.

Music. I practice between an hour and 5 a day for fun. Computers are nice too, currently in college for computer networking & sysadmining.

>>9244717
>>9244698
Yeah, it is difficult to pinpoint, maybe look at what your hobbies are and what aspects and pieces you enjoy in each hobby to try to find an underlying connection that could be made to a possible passion or study.

>>9244746
>look at what your hobbies are
Going to work and wasting the entirety of my free time on 4chan.

I also exercise daily but I loathe it so I'd hesitate to call that a hobby.

>>9244746
>>9244849
I'd like to chip in and ask if all desire and want is simply from habit or if something else is happening here. It's an idea I've been mulling over the past few weeks.

>>9234177

i'm passionate about irony

>>9235330
>>9235340
UW as in Wisconsin or Washington? I'm guessing not Wyoming. I just graduated from Wisconsin last year.
I've been into literature since a young age, beginning with the Great Illustrated Classics versions of Moby Dick, Frankenstein, Poe, and Robinson Crusoe. got into philosophy around 16 when I picked up Human, All Too Human from a bookstore and knew that the simplistic aphorisms were loaded with context that I wasn't familiar with, which led to starting with the Greeks shortly thereafter. I double majored in lit and philosophy.
Im really into music, been an avid listener since I was old enough to pick out my own stuff to listen to (5? 6?) And have been playing the guitar and bass guitar since I was 12.
I spend a lot of time in the outdoors: hiking/backpacking/camping. I try to get out into the wilderness as often as possible. This summer I'll start rock climbing outside, I've been going to a rock gym for a couple of months and I'm progressing quickly and it's loads of fun along with being great exercise.
And, uh, I love animals of all kinds, I'd like to say wildlife and ecosystem conservation is a passion of mine but I don't really act on it as much as I'd like. It's something to work towards.

>>9244849
That's a good start, don't think of 4chan as a SINGLE entity, but rather an entity whose essence consists of numerous boards, threads within these boards, and people that partake in all the aforementioned aspects of 4chan. Ok, so you no doubt tend towards boards and topics that intrigue and interest you more so than others. Although difficult, observe broadly what boards you generally partake in, why do you partake in this board over the others, and which threads you generally contribute to.

From that you can at the very least, narrow down ( and hopefully pinpoint) some topics and area that you have interest in. Extrapolate from there, how you can apply those interests to the real world, or finding a hobby that brings you joy. (And honestly, 4chan is fine as a hobby, public discourse is always good.)

>>9244872
Ok, so wanting something is a form of desire, where if you desire something, then you are DISPOSED to acquiring, or achieving whatever that thing is. Meaning, you are likely to act on that desire, but it doesn't entail that you have acted on it. (IE someone who wants 1 million dollars, but doesn't want to work for it.)

In other words. Someone who desires something, is disposed to achieving that desire, similar to how a glass is disposed to breaking. It doesn't mean that the glass is broken yet. (breaking being a metaphor for achieving the desire.)

( Desire, can lead to habit, and yes visa verse is also true. (though, I think the former is more common)

>>9234177
I'm not a fan of the word "passion" in this sense. It seems to be a meme spouted by career junkies who read too many self-help books. It implies that the only things worth pursuing in life are those that bring enjoyment and pleasure. No doubt, the study of many fields can bring aesthetic pleasure (philosophy and mathematics do that for me occasionally), but most of the time, academic subjects are studied with a certain seriousness. These subjects are still worth pursuing even if they aren't always (or even ever) pleasurable, because there is a higher ideal in mind when we study, think about, and contribute to them. I don't think "passion" is the right word for this.

>>9234177
Masturbation.
14.

>>9234434
>The layers of the OSI model are independent of each other
Only if you dont want them to function.
Please explain how DHCP can work (layer 7) without Layers 2 and 3

>>9245331
>Please explain how DHCP can work (layer 7) without Layers 2 and 3
Special layer 7 broadcast and unicast packets. You wouldn't understand

>>9235628
>Do you guys have any recommendations for how I can learn about this stuff? Books I should read?

pic related

>>9245423
>Taking care of myself

Nothing.

Well I suppose I want to move to USA and have my own ranch but that's never.gonna.happen

>>9234421
I'll just assume you're unemployed

>>9235330
zizek literally wrote a book on the emancipatory potential of catholicism the fuck are you on about

>>9234177
Medicine, after a week abroad with my medical student friend, where I began to read psychiatry and neurology textbooks.

After, I bumped into a number of authors who I fell in love with, like Louis Ferdinand Celine and Bulgakov, and it just so happened that they were doctors, and I began to feel a resonance with the subversive undercurrent in the profession, and with its more developed humanism, in the form of people like Sacks.

My second love is Organic Chemistry, and I fell in love with it when I was 14 in my little lab, and I brainstormed my first synthesis ab initio. My happiest moment was when I identified a potential pharmacological product using SAR and designed a viable synthetic route to it from inexpensive products with retrosynthesis. It still feels like my baby, my own unique molecule that belongs to no one but me. Nothing gets me off now like looking at my dirty pictures.

My third love is writing Marxist critical theory and analysis, and theologically themed poetry. The former feels like it engages all of my faculties, and let's me draw on my autismal stores of reading in creative syntheses and applications. The study and application of theory is the theme that permeates all of my interests.

Fourth is jazz piano, the moment of truth was when I tried to improvise and something good fell out like there was something possessing me - that breakthrough point where I could translate what I was feeling accurately and with fidelity into music.

All of these are expressions of the same underlying love of reading, finding universals, conceptualising them into theory and then applying it.

>>9245468
Not with that attitude

Writing - when I was in 9th grade and my english teacher said my words are candy - currently working in freelance & editing my completed novel at 24 now :)

>>9244744
What do you play?

>>9245667
Only way to get Green Card is to marry an American and I don't know how.

>>9245688
Can we all help find this guy a wife? Please /lit/? Lets get a good-looking guy to make a GoFundMe vid

>>9245688
Now that gay marriage is legal you can probably just find an anon on 4chan.

>>9245712
>>9245703
nice yokes on my drems guys nimce yokes..

>>9245729
I would do it - I live in Texas, the state might take it away if trump leaves it to the states, which he probs will. I dont even believe in marriage so it's no big deal

>>9245736
lies and jokes, you wound me

>>9245736
>inb4 you two become bara lovers, first ironically then less so

>>9245805
i have oneitis on a college friend (woman) that i havent seen in a decade, there's no danger of that

>>9234177
about your mom

realized the first time i came inside her anus

i sure do love shitposting

>>9245966
>not fucking your own mom in the ass
/toppleb/

I've been here since, about, 2009.The entire quality of this website has gotten worse and more homogeneous somehow. I really miss the long winded discussions with Deep&Edgy and smug Quinton shit posts.

>>9245997
I think 4chan goes in and out of good times and bad times.

When I first came here in 2010 it was kind of shit in hindsight, but 2012-2014 was great. Now I think we just need to wait on the good times again.

Does passion equate to things I have spent a lot of time on? In that case...
>songwriting with acoustic/electric guitar
>listening to this type of music
>2200+ hours on Dota 2 over 4 years
>completing programming assignments in Java
>eating
>sleeping
>walking

>>9234177
>What are you passionate abou
Ayy man! Smashin dat pussy + gettin that THICC BITCHES

>when did you realize it?
When I partook in the diversions of youth, and gallivanted with the nymphs of summer. When I gazed upon the lush ferility and begged it to know me as I'd known it.

Philosophy and mathematics are the only things that matter at the end of the day. But I suck at math.

>>9246036
you can't be good at philosophy if you suck at very simple and basic logic like math

>>9246032
Teach me your ways.

Self-destruction.

Books

around ~12yo when I realised that by stepping into the shoes of some strong female protagonists I had the power to make my tranny feels go away, if but for a few hours

>>9245997
>>9246012
It's because you whiny losers drove out all of our tripfags. REI was a beautiful soul.

Film

Because it's the epitome of art

>>9246637
Wrong.

That would be video games.

>>9238634
>All I want is to WANT something
I was there aswell. There was no particular appeal in anything, and I desperately wanted an honest interest that could illuminate my life.

The solution for me came when I was able to push the need for a passion back, and instead focus on my living experience, on my feelings and thoughts, without a voice telling me that this is not what I REALLY want. I discovered an interest in the people around me, other humans, which I now try my best to understand. In hindsight I guess that interest was always there, only not clearly spelled out. I still would not call it a passion, but it does guide me somewhat and I've achieved a peace of mind that's fortified enough to withstand the troubling thoughts stemming from a lack of purpose.

I'm not saying my way will work for you, but maybe try to focus less on what's not there and more on what is. And if you keep seeing nothing then revel in life itself.

>>9234177
>What are you passionate about
Playing the piano.

>and when did you realize it?
Too late.

>>9245678
Saxophone for 8-ish years, but I've recently started getting serious about the guitar and have been learning a lot of blues/american primitive music. I can also play a little piano and know a bit of music theory.

>>9234723

You will perish, forgotten and thoroughly alone, and the churches and mosques and synagogues will see traffic until the end of time.

>>9237822

Too bad it's a pipe dream. Socialism is so unnatural to us and such a terrible idea that it could never work without force behind it.

Are people just too ashamed to say video games?

>>9246764
You can still give it a try anon.

>>9247373
Not everyone plays videogames.

>>9247373
I like video games okay. I mostly just retro and nostalgia game these days. Replaying Grim Fandango atm. I can't get into newer games. I might play the new Zelda; I downloaded it and an emu...

Anyway I'd rather read than play video games these days.

>>9247373

Stop playing games

>>9243960
You are not preemminent enough

>>9247373
>being passionate about playing video games

>>9247425
No.

>>9247517
>placing value judgments on actions arbitrarily

Video games are at the height of intellectual achievement.

>>9247637

>>9247637
(You)

>>9246760
Great advice! Thanks.

Bump

>>9238634
I'll offer my thoughts but they're probably too personal to be helpful. I was pretty much like you until I was about 19 or 20.

For me, I was just too cynical to be passionate about anything. I thought art was basically contrived and vapid, and that anybody who was into something like sports or relationships was just a normie. Eventually I changed my mind on art. I watched this Bergman film that actually had all of this meaning and significance in it, and even though I was too uneducated to understand half of it, I loved it anyway and opened myself up to the hobby. It made me realize that there's a whole world of art hiding behind what we see in pop culture. You can be cynical of the shit stuff, but there's actually stuff worth being passionate about once you open your mind a little. Eventually this perspective migrated to other parts of my life, and now I'm not as much of an asshole.

>>9234177
I don't recall ever feeling truly passionate about anything. Lately, I struggle to even will myself to read a book or play a video game and my days are spent mindlessly killing time until I can go back to sleep again.

I feel like I'm capable of great things and I can see a path to a brighter future but I lack the motivation or desire to do anything.

>>9249591
I totally agree. Problem is, there's so much shit on the surface that it's easy to be cynical. So many clickbait news articles, so much vapidity in pop culture, so many hacks who act like their genuine but really just want to make a buck off you. But, beneath that shit, transcendent above the systems that control our everyday lives, there is a richer world.

>>9249702
>their
brb going to kill myself

I like numbers. Making mine go up, keeping yours a secret.

I'm interested in living. I don't see the use in sharing my ideas if they are not adequate to achieve what I want without wasting another's time. I find speech something inherently condescending; involving the supposition the best thing you could do with your time at any moment is listen to me instead of yourself. I want to live a life without supplementing on yours. I am not an egoist, I believe in humanity and would always rather be with someone than not; nothing is worth doing if it is not worth sharing. I don't want to have to think. Thought itself supposes there is no meaning, all thought is rational as in rationalizing. This is the bedrock of my psychogenic conscious, the realism of my most depressed form when I'm truly honest with myself. What I'm passionate about is eliminating these desires forever.

I don't know.

I'm interested in a lot of things. But all I do is read about them, acquire information, think about them. I don't make anything. I'm not using the knowledge or skills I develop to actually create something.

It all seems empty and pointless.

>>9234177
big asses.

I was 11 or 12.

>>9249817
JUST DO IT.

>>9245331
>Please explain how DHCP can work (layer 7) without Layers 2 and 3

Start with Layer 1 bro. It should also reveal to you that nothing is independent.

I'm not really passionate about anything, unfortunately. The closest thing I have to a passion is my OCD, which I enjoy satisfying in various ways.

>>9245028
>rock climbing

Nice. If you're still in WI I'd recommend Devil's Lake. I had the opportunity to climb there last summer and it was very good. The difficulty is just right for transitioning from indoor to outdoor climbing too, and there's a lot of variety.