/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.10182589]

Is originality the essence of good poetry?

[Anonymous No.10182594]

No.

[Anonymous No.10182604]

>is originality the essence of good [art]

no, see outsider art

[Anonymous No.10182608]

>>10182594
how prosaic

[Anonymous No.10182613]

DAILY REMINDER

Ariosto, Camoes and Tasso > Yeats, Pound and Eliot

[Anonymous No.10182679]

>>10182589
Is that the girl from that InfoWars video? Lul

[Anonymous No.10182693]

Our love is
convenient
like UberEATS
on an evening.

[Anonymous No.10182723]

No, emotion is
This is also true for all other forms of art as well

[Anonymous No.10182740]

>>10182723
there's no emotion in art. there's craft, which happens to elicit emotion

[Anonymous No.10182746]

>>10182604
But outsider art is original.

[Anonymous No.10182749]

love kitten is a scary whore
with beaten face and beaten hole
mad like lions in the jungle
beautiful girl of the pictures
bared her good whitish teeth
with her short hair and soft shirt
kind and lovely as the sun in July
passed the exams tomorrow morning
no steam in the cold air from her mouth
her eyes look like globes, accurately
covered with colored paper
spherical chest of Plato
the nose is like a dam side
strawberry story of love made
she meet the Dajal in her glory
she chase me and run me
oh, think of me babe

[Anonymous No.10182761]

>>10182589
poetry is only good if you can convince me it's good

[Anonymous No.10182771]

>>10182613
I appreciate the inclusion of a luso poet my lad, but you're comparing three modernists with three classicists. If you want to name Iberian poets to compete with Yeates, Pound and Eliot, try Pessoa, Lorca and Marinetti.

[Anonymous No.10182775]

>>10182693
our love
turned sour
like PICKLE RIIIIIIIICK

[Anonymous No.10182783]

straight lines turn into circles fuck
always, brother, always, as in 1946
square frequencies turn into stars
always, always, as in November last year
faithful comrades turn into angels
always, brother, always, as in 2016
dab of ranch turns into linear growth
always, always, always, as you do
sweet pieces put you in a trance
smell that faces and hands, bro
cooler than a jokeman as is it can be
shake her hand last time in New Year

[Anonymous No.10182785]

>>10182589
Originality is overrated. Maybe even worthless.

The secret to great poetry is familiarity.

[Anonymous No.10182789]

>>10182746
And it's not good.

[Anonymous No.10182791]

deck is a dick you have to lick
murderer in the house you know
blinked eyes her made in Gaussian
stormy weather wear keep and grow
Pessoak is made by GODS and GUTS
shake shake shake your mind and budy

[Anonymous No.10182793]

the world gonna to end
and the devil is a growth
white house is black now
youtubers seeing it

[Anonymous No.10182800]

>>10182589
who is she

[Anonymous No.10182802]

>>10182771
That was the point. Originality did not make the Cantos better than Os Lusiadas. Most of the Cantos is quite impossible to read. Os Lusiadas is always a great poem, it keeps the quality.

Classicism, though less original, produced better poets than modernism.

[Anonymous No.10182812]

my penis is a root
into this earthly domain
functional yet obtuse
like frozen sticke of milk
used to make pvc style windows
in this dolls house
from afghanistan
we are all of us trying to squeeze into
the
same
undersized
shoes

[Anonymous No.10182834]

>>10182800
https://youtu.be/GRq4EAbhheE
op’s muse

[Anonymous No.10182852]

>>10182679
Her names August, like the season, frigid with a serene beauty, just like she is

[Anonymous No.10182867]

>>10182852
I would call her Augustus, if it was just us, and ask her if she might want to grease me up and roam

[Anonymous No.10182950]

>>10182834
Why is it that liberal women are so often intensely beautiful while almost all young liberal men are soft and ugly?

[Anonymous No.10182959]

>>10182950
feminine people are attracted to liberalism
feminine woman = cute
feminine man = numale

[Anonymous No.10182977]

>>10182950
Women's openness makes them predisposed to the left. They can easily be converted to soft right center though

[Anonymous No.10183010]

>>10182959
damn. That sounds right.
>>10182834
I wonder if there is some correlation of testosterone and rationality. The black guy in that video seemed miles above the rest of the protesters in rationality and even headedness.

[Anonymous No.10183029]

>>10182950
>>10182867
>>10182852
>>10182800
How any of you spergs find that ugly troll attractive I'll never know.

[Anonymous No.10183118]

>>10183010
He's probably just secure in himself

[Anonymous No.10183124]

>>10183029
play can be fun can be real maybe

[Anonymous No.10183297]

>>10182959
feminine aesthetic is pretty based, though. I rather a numale over a manly man.

[Anonymous No.10183301]

>>10183297
Then you're either a butch woman or a timid man.

[Anonymous No.10183308]

>>10182740
Wrong
Craft and emotion are separate and complementary, but emotion is the senior partner in this relationship. A piece with an abundance of emotion but a lack of craft is loveable, while a piece with an abundance of craft yet no emotion is wankery

[Anonymous No.10183319]

>>10182589

No. Metaphors are the essence of good poetry.

[Anonymous No.10183323]

>>10182693
a lust as ephemeral as a summers breeze
as old as time yet groundbreaking
your smile is the ketosis of my mind
Truly the Google Pixel 2 XL of loves

[Anonymous No.10183335]

>>10183323
>kurtosis*
One might say I made a mistake as profound as NOT BUYING THE GOOGLE PIXEL 2 XL while it's still hot hot hot!

[Anonymous No.10183392]

>>10182589
Form, style, restraint, and passion are the essence of good poetry.

[Anonymous No.10184221]

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[Anonymous No.10184234]

[Anonymous No.10184237]

[Anonymous No.10184241]

[Anonymous No.10184243]

[Anonymous No.10184249]

[Anonymous No.10184251]

>>10184221
>>10184228
>>10184234
>>10184234
>>10184237
>>10184241
>>10184243
STAHP

[Anonymous No.10184254]

[Anonymous No.10184260]

I have a really hard time with poetry. I think I still haven't really grasped the concept. I feel like I'm just gonna be ebin prose guy forever, but I want to enjoy poetry

[Anonymous No.10184262]

>>10184251
last one I promise, enjoy them, these are the essence of good poetry

[Anonymous No.10184302]

last one, one of my favs

[Anonymous No.10184572]

>>10182589
there is no "essence" of good poetry because good poetry is not a universal concept.

>>10184260
try this if you're really interested in learning
4chanlit.wikia.com/poetry

[Anonymous No.10184765]

The perfect balance between familiarity and unfamiliarity, the same as with sexual partners

[Anonymous No.10184778]

>>10184765
Also, technique. Actually, technique is most important.

[Anonymous No.10184808]

>>10183297
you mean a pretty boy not a nu-male
i 100% agree

[Anonymous No.10184872]

>>10184302
>>10184237
>>10184234


these have taken on a new meaning. every time I see them they seem different and representative of something I cant quite express. not sexually, just enigmatically, beyond the physical beauty, there is some unsaid theme, a sadness perhaps. Maybe it's the cold gear, the shadows around her eyes the small diversion outwards of her pupils. This is a troubled soul and we are here ingesting that essence, but why? to what end?

[Anonymous No.10184882]

>>10184221 = 1
>>10184228 = 2
>>10184234 = 3
>>10184237 = 4
>>10184241 = 5
>>10184243 = 6
>>10184249 = 7
>>10184254 = 8
>>10184262 = 9
>>10184302 = 0
Roll, last digit is her reaction when she sees your cock

[Anonymous No.10184893]

>>10182771
>Marinetti
>Iberian
Wat

[Anonymous No.10184903]

>>10184882
ROLL
ING

[Anonymous No.10184907]

>>10184882
I will not debase myself to this foolishness

please be 9

[Anonymous No.10184909]

>>10184872
Maybe it's also the "GIVE UP" sign behind her.

[Anonymous No.10184942]

>>10182594
fpbp

[Anonymous No.10184957]

>>10184882
I too will not debase myself to this foolishness

[Anonymous No.10184963]

>>10182950
>thin lips
>beautiful

Get a load of this guy.

[Anonymous No.10184973]

>>10184882
rowl

[Anonymous No.10184986]

>>10184963
Beauty is about the aesthetic relation of parts not the parts having to adhere to some ideal of a part, and even if it were that way, the idea that only one ideal exists per part is ludicrous.

[Anonymous No.10184990]

my penis grows
just as my love
for her
but ill never be

with her

[Anonymous No.10185008]

>>10182589

It's describing something familiar in an original way imo.

If you write about something unique to your circumstances, it won't resonate with the reader. A good poem grabs the essence of something I've felt or seen in a way I've never heard before.

Btw original doesn't mean /lit/-tier "You have to read it backwards while tilting your head 45 degrees to the left with one eye closed and humming Seven nation army and fingering a Thai prostitute."
Random spacing and pointless words all over the place is original, but it's worthless junk, it has no point but "artistic" masturbation.

Clever use of sounds, metaphors and other poetic tools is where it's at.

[Anonymous No.10185013]

You must be:
>aware of history, the theory, and the masters
>creative enough to find new modes of expression for the familiar emotions

[Anonymous No.10185181]

>>10184893
Geography is not my strong suit, anon. You know that.

[Anonymous No.10185209]

Hnngg.

[Anonymous No.10185245]

>>10184882
Roll

[Anonymous No.10185257]

>>10182613
'No'

[Anonymous No.10185259]

>>10184882

Well shit..

[Anonymous No.10185263]

>>10182589
originality is gay

[Anonymous No.10185266]

>>10184882
Kek

[Anonymous No.10185267]

Girlie mad hole of bunny bones
Bears her stolen coat and soviet code
We embrased her shocked, unusually
We capitally try to dry, seriously
Like man standing in white hills
Angels are wrong and write bills
Should I get some stuff here or there
Shall we overcome theae bastards?
Nuclear anus of solar king is fired
Magicians tried to cheat ya bro
Nigger is bothering thunder of gore
We more than objective facts you know
We are one of the ancient dream of animal
We know we so radical like licker of country guitar
Lick chess winner or silicon Valley nigger
Less your whores blew down more you get
Less these ffighting bushes low down more you set
Do it right girl like it plane parade
With elephant of masonic grade
Read twice my message to you
Do not cry into heaven, bye, like you

[Anonymous No.10185269]

>>10184986
Science does a better job at finding the ideal than philosophy. Is this because scientists are chats and philosophers are virgins?

[Anonymous No.10185271]

>>10184882
Why the fuck are women's faces so much more expressive than men?

[Anonymous No.10185273]

>>10182950
Woman are usually more intelligent, thats why liberal is more appealling.
Men just want to fuck those girls, so they follow them, even if that mean change your ideas.

[Anonymous No.10185274]

>>10185008
What is "clever?" Is it whatever you like? Is it slam? Is it the cantos?

[Anonymous No.10185276]

>>10184882
jj

[Anonymous No.10185288]

It s a mad thing, sad thing
Book I tried to reed to difficult
Madness is sunny weather like tits
Angel is too hot to see her
Angel is too strong beaten by yoy
More intellegent us you all
Fuck the faces and decks
Desks and disks, fatal lucid dreams
Lewis and Bims, Hugos and Nimbs

[Anonymous No.10185327]

>>10185269
Science cannot find an ideal, that's nonsense.

[Anonymous No.10185506]

Nope. That comes from the assumption that art is about originality. Reminds me of a long-haired 15 yr old that plays an out of tune guitar and thinks he's unique for it. (yes I'm projecting)

Good poetry uses good meter.

[Anonymous No.10185515]

>>10182589
No but intuition is.

[Anonymous No.10185522]

The origin of all good things is Good itself.

[Anonymous No.10185945]

You, american people shouldn't even speak about poetry.

[Anonymous No.10185973]

>>10185945
post your favorite non america poem/s

[Anonymous No.10185982]

>>10185973
>>10184728
>>10184733

[Anonymous No.10185989]

No

[Anonymous No.10186010]

>>10184882
good post

[Anonymous No.10186066]

>>10185982
in englis plz

[Anonymous No.10186075]

>>10186066
lol

[Anonymous No.10186077]

>>10185982
>>10186066
Enter and take the tying of the eyes,
this is the green stamp your dream:
Where wings sirren, Russell suck nectar,
elder in fall light foam
exudes, shall be unto thee the staff the hazel good
and snake prevents as guardian of the hem,
rejuvenated skin, on which the seal flash,
your main, of the dew of the first day to drink.

Go through the green Empire as the name of the encoder
on trips, your dream deeply familiar,
Bemiss milk the wolf, the seasoning the boar,
jewelry your helmet with purple orchid,
Silk Glanzer like the clouds Weber
customs your spell, and on the snake skin
entziffre what the Founder of the collars
in the heart has and what it wishes to preach.

First you will, the glances at the floor
as the pictures stapled, sovereign,
the stalk the hair in the hexen-ei the testicles
in the stem of the deer and the spear erspahn,
where you tempt you with the moss moist Loden,
slip in the rock, the spores changer usan
of light, and floats the swan before thy neck,
do you immune from each cave mouth.

Anyone who is in the calibration forest after the single-leaf bowed,
have also the nests in the tops eight,
whom eagle fern and rosemary entzuckte,
has in its honeycomb rich costume,
and that you have still no hen, which succeeded in creating,
hope you: that thee in the night the unicorn
notes, you entruckend to the source,
the silver sprays on lamb and rams' skins dyed red.

Not only the ore in the cool cave twilight,
not only the depth you are facing,
as a shield at the pond and as schilf-durchkammer
dost thou on pig and otter thy hand,
where you from the Blackbird sang and Specht Geha mber
the clearing sounds, sling your lilies band
to the ring and gilts, oak to climb,
you still always the first in the branches.

Listening to the Hoh, the Adler has cried by
the wind from the earth seduces throw load,
the smooth base with the poor and with knees
clutching, seek you on to the sure AST,
ready to pull you up even further,
the harsh hand claws in the bast,
and from the eyrie liftest you the eagle young
to light with a firm grip and sharp turns.

Snow White in the material, the earliest, his plumage
is able to dazzle your rulers
ahnst view, you that it is not adversely affected your system,
you can see your lot linked to his skill,
you senkst him gently in its cradle is low,
you draw you from the suspension shy back
and come down, transformed and exalted to
prunken white in the office of the eagle boys.

Cries from the forest hem, look in the Ried verschwistert
the garlic rocket with the larks porn,
Pfluck from the grass, inside the leis erknistert occurs
the Wiesels, white The Aron rod in the mandrel
of the bramble listen to what the Wind Dir whispers,
made from fresh sources of supply your born,
that when wild smell the Maien
Verschlug scents, the broom flowering from your hips.

[Anonymous No.10186085]

>>10186077
>>10185982
Where once the noise the sceptre of pans you swan rocks,
return the hears and turn thee, thou
of the forest wonders never frugal sangest,
obsessed by swallow Wurz and Mrs shoe,
the southern slope. Through the valley where you rock,
closes behind you scrub the paths to,
and only the most hold the weapon carrier
buzzing before the end you as the Traum-Aufprager.

In the shadow of the oak thou shalt rest
last, wood dove attracts you with Gegurr,
where moth you the cheek gently most beta,
forget you, thread spinning and networks lashing,
the hunter is his Waidwerk The Erblassten,
stag beetles to sojourn in the Brunst-Gesurr,
and that in the grass snake would,
swung you as a crown around the temples.

So put you off with velvet comfort
at the hem of the fire, where with red lips
of the Salamander watch, let horns protrude
in foliage, pour the wine and break the bread,
let your spear the tent of the stars,
as long as the panicle silver Soma loht
and until the monitor his band make attert,
blow in the glut of ash fuzz umflattert.

A Hold Arom of zimmet and lemon
surges on blood heads pink-white,
the goddess opens your lap the sons that
blood and ether him the flame dining,
who experienced this trend, the heischt not hear nor crown,
who here verse Anke, sang the sickle price,
and where the Asch Wurz your polished metals
del eight, let you in their catches cases.

The Huldin Besteh, pass the grove
and messengers that you ram-hauptig draun,
and track the samtnen swing are spread
on the game of owls shalt thou erfreun,
and knowing that the spell that directs you to
the guardian of twelve are and the heads of nine,
let the smell verweh, eh, the night is tilt,
the mussel gluhn, that you are the God dissaving dough.

The god of the forests, ancient-boy,
the bush that burns, einsog he Arom
with poppy in hair and purple on the tongue,
Hinflutend on the moon light cool power,
he settles, lost in the Eagle turns
the runic ripe and before the holders cathedral
in the ash material, in the eagle material, in the gray,
you take the gold of the dream of his claws.

[Anonymous No.10186086]

>>10186077
LOL

[Anonymous No.10186137]

>>10186085
>obsessed by swollen wurz

[Anonymous No.10186138]

>>10185982
when is the poem from

[Anonymous No.10186154]

Look guys! I wrote an original American poem! A very erotic one!
Here it goes:


the garlic rocket with the larks porn,
and until the monitor his band make attert,
Verschlug scents, the broom flowering from your hips.
the stalk the hair in the hexen-ei the testicles
obsessed by swallow Wurz and Mrs shoe,
at the hem of the fire, where with red lips
to light with a firm grip and sharp turns
is able to dazzle your rulers
blow in the glut of ash fuzz umflattert
prunken white in the office of the eagle boys
made from fresh sources of supply your born

[Anonymous No.10186160]

>>10186137
>and Mrs Shoe

[Anonymous No.10186162]

>>10186138
Sometime between 1997 and 2011.

[Anonymous No.10186170]

>>10186162
why do you say that, how do you know, no known date of published?

[Anonymous No.10186175]

>>10186170
Published 2012 in a collection of poems written sometime between 1997 and 2011 by Rolf Schilling, called Lingaraja.

[Anonymous No.10186176]

>>10186175
ah , cool, thanks

[Anonymous No.10186237]

>>10186176
Post a link if you find a pdf, I looked everywhere.

[Anonymous No.10186255]

i think her girl friend is hotter.
am i gay?!?!?!?!

[Anonymous No.10186277]

>>10184986
You'll never know how good a kiss or a blowjob feels from a girl with a wonderful, fat, meaty beak.

[Anonymous No.10186285]

>>10186277
I do know but I think your definition of beauty is an odd one.

[Anonymous No.10186311]

>>10186255
She's cuter in an endearing way not hotter. August seems like she'd freak out about weird shit but I guess you deal with drastic personalities with drastic beauty although the slav jaw is losing it's appeal

[Anonymous No.10186446]

>>10182589
any essence is unoriginal

[Anonymous No.10186470]

No, talent and dedication is the essence of good art

[Anonymous No.10186501]

>>10182589
The idea that originality of form = good is probably the number one culprit in poetry's current and arguably unprecedented cultural irrelevance.

[Anonymous No.10186534]

>>10186255
I agree, she is Caitlyn by the way

[Anonymous No.10186735]

>>10186255
>>10186311
homey, homely, bro-ey

i you are ugly, fat, doofy you may prefer her

[Anonymous No.10186739]

>>10186735
>>10186534
>>10186311
a honda civic, pt cruiser, mini cooper, bolt, prius, vs. ferrari, lamburghini, corvette, hummer, jeep

[Anonymous No.10186780]

>>10183029
why don't you read neechee and find out what truth really is

[Anonymous No.10187038]

>>10182789
idk about that

[Anonymous No.10187146]

>>10187038
Me neither m8. Actually I just changed my mind and I think it IS good.

[Anonymous No.10187611]

>>10182589
No.

[Anonymous No.10187685]

>>10186739
Now that's just so objectifying, it's almost silly.

[Anonymous No.10187691]

>>10182589
Yes. As without originality, there would only be 1 poem.

[Anonymous No.10187694]

>>10187685
was trying to be silly desu. Both are lovely people, lovely young women, who I hope have lovely lives. I hope they respect themselves and seek and succeed in seeking success, and any men they meet along the way and allow them to share their company, is a lucky fellow indeed.

[Anonymous No.10187711]

>>10182852
dude you are so gay

[Anonymous No.10187714]

>>10187694
ok john green take it easy

[Anonymous No.10187736]

Her square head I'd beat
with my fists I'd shape
Until mine I'd make
her consensual love I'd take

[Anonymous No.10187739]

>>10185271
Weaker face muscles.

[Anonymous No.10187752]

>>10187739
And many many more hours of practice through intensive communication.

[Anonymous No.10187756]

>>10187752
I have plenty of intense conversations. I call people racial slurs on the internet for hours at a time.