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10452003 No.10452003 [Reply] [Original]

Who is your favorite and least favorite philosopher?

favorite: https://strawpoll.com/55kxdcs3

least favorite: https://strawpoll.com/zyxghr27

>> No.10452035

>>10452003
If Jacques Derrida doesn't win best philosopher I'm leaving /lit/ forever

>> No.10452048

>>10452035
>Not John Stewart Mill

>> No.10452060

>>10452048
not on the list (thank god)

>> No.10452083

Thank god wittgenstein isn't winning or even voted for

>> No.10452129

>>10452083
People voting for Epicurus is way worse. Where did all these redditors come from

>> No.10452156

>>10452129
NEETzsche is up there with him too

>> No.10452162

why isn't Wilfrid Sellars an option?

>> No.10452186

>>10452129
>tfw I'm the only person who voted for Epicurus as the least favorite

>> No.10452273

>Karl Marx: 3 votes

MAKE IT END

>> No.10452318

favorite: N

least favorite: Aristotle and Russell (equally hate them and people who look up to, read or adopt their ideas)

>> No.10452319
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>>10452273
zocializts want to take my stbuff !!!! 1!

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>>10452318
>favorite: N
>least favorite: Aristotle

>> No.10452424

>>10452003
>fav
Heidegger
>least
Locke

>> No.10452431

>>10452411
wow the reddit meme about reddit

>> No.10452461

>>10452003
>Putting based Issac on the thumbnail with a bunch of retarded faggots that wrote books about their feelings.
>He's not on the list.
thank fuck.

>> No.10452528

>>10452461
>putting a superstitious alchemist plagarist on a list of people who built the scaffolding of western thought

>> No.10452548

>no Land

Mcfucking kill yourself.

>> No.10452570

>>10452528
>Still contributed more worth then the whole list of pseuds combined.

>> No.10452594

>>10452003
>people voting for Marcus Aurelius but not Epictetus

>> No.10452636

>continental philosopher winning in the 'best' poll

Fuck this board

>> No.10452650
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10452650

>Aristotle - 11
>Plato - 8

>> No.10452668

Imagine being over the age of 17 and considering Nietzsche your favorite philosopher

>> No.10452676

Nietzsche
Sarte
Plato

>> No.10452682

>no voltaire

What kind of poll is this?

>> No.10452688

>1) Aristotle
>2) Friedrich Nietzsche
>3) Plato
>4) Socrates
>5) Arthur Schopenhauer
>6) Immanuel Kant
>7) Epicurus
>8) Marcus Aurelius
>9) Soren Kierkegaard
>10) Thomas Aquinas
>11) Rene Descartes
>12) St. Augustine
>13) Ludwig Wittgenstein
>14) Karl Marx
>15) Epictetus
>16) Gottlob Frege
>17) GWF Hegel
>18) Baruch Spinoza
>19) Martin Heidegger
>20) Averroes
>21) George Berkeley
>22) William James
>23) Gilles Deleuze
>24) Saul Kripke
>25) John Searle
>26) Donald Davidson
>27) Goffried Leibniz
>28) Sextus Empiricus
>29) Boethius
>30) David Chalmers
>31) Edmund Husserl
>32) Charles Sanders Peirce
>33) David Hume
>34) John Locke
>35) Richard Rorty
>36) John-Paul Sartre
>37) Thomas Hobbes
>38) WVO Quine
>39) Johann Fichte
>40) Bertrand Russell
>41) Dan Dennett
>42) Jacques Derrida
>43) Peter Singer
>44) Jean-Jacques Rousseau
>45) Michel Foucault
Why is /lit/s taste such shit

>> No.10452695

>>10452318
Why the dislike of Aristotle?

>> No.10452698

>>10452570
except he contributed less than Leibniz

>> No.10452702

>>10452688
Just be happy Aristotle got 1 instead of Neet

>> No.10452703

>>10452698
Yeah but Leibniz wasn't English so he doesn't count

>> No.10452711

>>10452688
How can you have Aristotle at 1 yet have Aquinas and Averroes so low?

>> No.10452724

>>10452711
Well it's based off of upvotes-downvotes

...and because /lit/ is retarded

>> No.10452729

>>10452711
Aquinas is a great choice
>David Hume bout to take this tho

>> No.10452732

Why does /lit/ hate Hume, Heidegger and Husserl so much

>> No.10452735

>>10452724
Thomas Aquinas is a christian philosopher who has obvious predilections toward faith.

>> No.10452737

>>10452732
Butthurt brainlets

>> No.10452772

>>10452668
Imagine being over the age of 17 and considering Nietzsche a philosopher

>> No.10452775

>no analytic garbage anywhere near the top
My faith in /lit/ is restored.

>> No.10452905

>>10452688
>1) Aristotle
>2) Immanuel Kant
>3) Arthur Schopenhauer
>4) Plato
>5) Friedrich Nietzsche
>6) Socrates
>7) Epicurus
>8) David Hume
>9) Kierkegaard
>10) Marcus Aurelius

>35) Richard Rorty
>36) WVO Quine
>37) Thomas Hobbes
>38) Johann Fichte
>39) Jean-Paul Sartre
>40) Dan Dennett
>41) Jacques Derrida
>42) Jean-Jacques Rousseau
>43) Bertrand Russell
>44) Peter Singer
>45) Michel Foucault

alright thank god

>> No.10452934

where's averroes?

>> No.10452942

>>10452934
the token brown guy

>> No.10452950

Imagine voting Marx as your least favorite philosopher

>> No.10453019

>>10452950
ban everyone who voted for marx as their favorite
but also ban everyone who voted for marx as their least favorite

>> No.10453027

>>10452950
i picked foucault, derrida, and sartre as my least favorite philosophers.

>> No.10453086

>>10453027
I picked Sartre, I have no idea why you’d say Foucault or Derrida.

>> No.10453116
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10453116

Why isn't Augustine on the favorites list? I voted for Plato, but only because Augustine wasn't there.

>> No.10453118

>>10452950
>never worked a day in his life
>dude workers unite lmao
>dude everything is dialectical lmao
>dude this will totally work in real life lmao
>dude synthesis lmao

>> No.10453125

>>10453116
He was though, look again.

>> No.10453170

>>10453118
Without clicked I literally didn’t know who you were referring to, I thought you meant Hegel.

It’s a shame that you don’t even know that basics of one of the most influential thinkers of all time.

>> No.10453183

>>10453170
Uh, as the admin of RandPaul2020.net I think I know what I'm talking about.

>> No.10453184

>>10453086
because i don't fuck with homos and retards.

>> No.10453197

>>10453170
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCK CAPITALISM
well he was good at influencing totalitarians i guess

>> No.10453225

>>10452950
People who voted Marx as favorite can stay *only* if they selected more than one

>> No.10453229

>>10453197
Out of curiosity, what works by Marx have you read?

>> No.10453238

>>10453170
>hegel
>workers unite
You know who I was talking about soyboy, don't play dumb with me.

>> No.10453287

>>10453225
*selects Marx, Sartre, Foucault and Derrida as favorites*

>> No.10453335

>>10453170
I've read about half of Capital and what he says sounds accurate to me

>> No.10453490

>>10452636
>being pissed off that some boring analytic philosopher isn't winning the fav philosopher poll on a board dedicated to fucking literature
you fucking moron
you imbecile

>> No.10453494

>>10452695
booooooring

>> No.10453497

>>10453019
repped

>> No.10453501

>>10452703
>*nglos are even human

>> No.10453502

>>10452003
that guy who came up with Solipsism. Love him to bits. What a neat and irrefutable concept.

Hate Plato. He keeps it too real for comfort.

>> No.10453514

>>10452003
who gives a shit philosophy is gay

>> No.10453518

>>10453019
Picked Derrida, Singer, and Sartre. MArx is a dumb answer.

>> No.10453526

>>10453514
this is correct, but so is literature

only poetry has merit

>> No.10453536

>>10453526
late heidegger pls go

>> No.10453540

Why is Donald Davidson there twice?

>> No.10453574

>>10453540
The second one is swampman

>> No.10453717

Anyone who voted Marx for least favorite should euthanize themselves.
>abooboo muh free market the socialists are taking away my anime pillows

>> No.10453739

>>10452035
lmao
see ya, pal

>> No.10453752

>>10453717
keep crying, red scum

>> No.10453765
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10453765

I'm disappointed that Leibniz isn't a top favorite but I suppose it's for the best.

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>>10453717
Yup, you're not stealing my anime pillow.

>> No.10453840

>least favourite philosophers
>Jean-Paul Sartre 3rd
>Bertrand Russell 4th
>Dan Dennett 6th
>Peter Singer 7th
>Marcus Aurelius 11th
good... good...

>> No.10453883

>>10452003
Tbh if you don't vote Plato then you're a pseud.


Also Peter Singer is the worst philosopher.

>> No.10453970

>>10453118
>writing for a living isn't work
>90% of the aristocrats he invariably jacks off probably didn't even write for money at all
t. non-marxist non-leftist non-soyboy

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10453975

>Nietzsche in the lead
Never change, /lit/

>> No.10453990

P A S C A L
A
S
C
A
L

>> No.10454007

>top 5 least favorite philosophers
>three of them are French

VIVE

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>>10453717
>it will work, guys, we only need more experimentaion time!

to hell with your unfalsifiable bullshit

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10454065

>tfw Diogenes is my favorite philosopher

>> No.10454077
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10454077

>Newman not on the list
Into the trash

>> No.10454092

>>10453717
My dislike of Marx is far more foundational than his Communism or even his economics.

>> No.10454106

>>10454077
Indeed, a huge oversight.

>> No.10454109

where is stirner?

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>>10454109
*was

>> No.10454120
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10454120

>>10454109

>> No.10454133

>>10453970
okay but being a writer doesn't make you a prole
let me know when writers are being "exploited" by capitalism

>> No.10454136

>>10452003
lol plebs don't know William James

>> No.10454138

>>10454092
what is it based on then
his .. jewness..

>>10454133
marx never claimed to be prole..

>> No.10454184

>>10454120
>implying he possesses that big of a sum

>> No.10454256

I hate Descartes with whole my heart. The Greeks are false idols too.

>> No.10454371

>>10454256
spoken like a true pseud

>> No.10454386

>Nietzsche: +43
Wow good thing Sam Harris isn't on the list

>> No.10454390

>>10452003
Sean Goonan

>> No.10454396

>>10452711
aquinas is dirty platonist, and averroes is just commenter of aristotle

>> No.10454400

>>10454396
oh, i confused aquinas with augustine, please delete both posts

>> No.10454421
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10454421

>>10453975
>>10454386
t. butthurt marxist

>> No.10454425

>>10454396
>>10454400
The dumbest thing here is calling averroes just a commentator of aristotle.

>> No.10454545

>>10454421
Nietzchlets are just Marxists in reverse

>> No.10454894

>>10454371
I take that as a name of honor.
They are important in the development of our intellectual history, but we should move beyond them. Many errors in our way of thinking come from the Greeks and Descartes. Biology and systems science have killed them, but amongst common folk their ideas are still common. By any means, they must be destroyed so the other ideas can grow.

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>>10454894
>Biology and systems science have killed them

>> No.10454911

>>10454894
>so the other ideas can grow.

Like what?

>> No.10454950

>>10454911
dude we're just like molecules and shit and btw life is meaningless and everything and god doesn't exist

it's just science bro look it up

>> No.10454960

>>10454894
Admittedly, Descartes' ideas on the mind are fundamentally incomplete, and in terms of psychology at the very least, he is as you say: Historically important but obsolete.

You can't throw the Greeks out so easily, though. They are the foundation of the Western canon. So many concepts that are basic to philosophy were first introduced by the Greeks. On some level it's that some of the views they articulated aren't particularly complicated; they were just the first to say them. But you need simple components to form a complex image.

>> No.10454964

>>10454390
Favorite or least favorite?

>> No.10455003

>>10454960
Descartes is the founder of the modern Western canon. You can't throw him out so easily either.

Anyways yeah his view on the mind is underdeveloped but he was right that there's an epistemic gap between material facts and consciousness

>> No.10455036

>>10455003
Fair enough, although I've been interested in philosophy and psychology so long that that just seems obvious. Nothing is really obvious, though.

I take greatest issue with his conceptualization of consciousness. The concept of Cogito ergo est, while fair in the spirit of his meaning, is flawed in a variety of ways. For example, "thinking," cognition, is linguistically based, and humans do not develop language without a human society to develop within. Cogito ergo est, in its most literal sense, is simply incorrect, because a human cannot think without this architecture around them. Maybe "I feel therefore I am" or "I experience therefore I am" would be a more accurate framing.

>> No.10455039

>>10454421
imagine being one of those people

>> No.10455052

>>10455036
>Maybe "I feel therefore I am" or "I experience therefore I am" would be a more accurate framing.
Descartes is more a victim of bad translation than anything

>> No.10455057

>>10452950
not only would you have to not have read marx, but you would also have to get your information from marx off a butthurt infographic

>> No.10455098

>>10455057
What's so great about marx that everyone who disagrees with you is missing

>> No.10455120

>>10455098
Not him but Marx was the first thinker to give a coherent objectively grounded account interconnecting all processes and conflicts in politics, economics and technology

>> No.10455121

>Aquinas and Heidegger so low
I'm surprised.

>> No.10455130

>>10455098
his contributions to economic and sociological thought that revolutionized how we view the world from an academic perspective. His influence is still felt to this day.
Underage memers get marx, particularly his political thought, confused with Leninism and they also try to attack him by saying "hurr he didn't work" when he worked as a journalist and was a highly prolific writer.

>> No.10455142

>>10452003
>no Stirner
>no Rand
fuck off

>> No.10455149

>>10455142
lol hope you mean for the least favorite section

>> No.10455153

>>10455149
It's not even a proper /lit/ poll without Stirner.

>> No.10455163

>>10455153
the sooner stirnerfags fuck back off to /pol/ the better

>> No.10455164

>>10455153
Not since redditors found him

>> No.10455165

>>10452003
Easily Sean Goonan

>> No.10455167

>>10455163
Stirner isn't /pol/ he's reddit.co/r/anarchism

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>> No.10455200

>>10455120
>objectively grounded account of anything
>from a Hegelian thinker
That's not how this works.

>> No.10455201

>>10455167
>>10455163
no its /leftypol/

>> No.10455209

>>10455200
That's not an argument

>> No.10455213

>>10455201
No Leftypol are... Well I don't know what they are anymore... Depressed I guess

>> No.10455234

>>10455209
Fuck off Molyneux. Marx's retardation starts with the idea that you need to make Hegel stand on his feet, put him on 'solid ground', on the 'objective world' to turn his system into a real science. Where does he think he's taking those external entities from? The little faggot thought he escaped the Hegelian system, but actually he just went back to pre-kantian metaphysics.

>> No.10455245

>>10455234
all metaphysics is pre-kantian metaphysics since kant ended metaphysics

>> No.10455254

>>10455245
What do you think Hegel, Heidegger, Derrida and company were doing?

>> No.10455258

>>10455254
>Derrida
>metaphysics

What

>> No.10455271

>>10455254
dumb shit

>> No.10455302

>>10452048
ew

>> No.10455318

Seems kind of biased towards the continental, marxist, pomo etc traditions yes? Kind of a fucking shit poll OP you absolute retard, huh?

>> No.10455321

>>10455318
Sounds like reddit is more your speed friend

>> No.10455322

>>10455318
>why doesn't everyone else love my favorite autistic analytic thinker

>> No.10455331

>>10453490
>because this board is about literature people must be retards that like shit pseud literature
analytics haven't wrote a book ever

>> No.10455337

>>10455331
Because if they did it would be embarrassingly bad

>> No.10455339

>>10452003
Favorite: Montaigne
Least favorite: Sartre

>> No.10455341

>>10455258
Did you get your introduction to Derrida from a Peterson video or some Marxist shithead? Cause either of those is going to distort his project for their own filthy ideological reasons.
The crux of Derrida's body of work is that all thought is metaphysical thought - "there is nothing outside the context". You can't have an 'objective' science, nor a 'continental' philosophy that is somehow emancipated from its metaphysical presuppositions and consequences.
The question he tries to answer, accordingly, isn't how to get out of metaphysics (that's simple, just stop thinking), but how to transform it: "can one treat of philosophy itself (metaphysics itself, that is, ontotheology) without already permitting the dictation, along with the pretension to unity and unicity, of the ungraspable and imperial totality of an order? If there are margins, is there still a philosophy, the philosophy?"

For instance, if you take SEC and Limited inc., two texts he wrote in correspondence to John Searle, he goes to great lengths to show in what ways Searle's conception of common language is full of statements not simply about language, but about the structure of being itself, and in what ways his account of language falls short of the properties Searle himself attributes to it when conceived within his framework.

>>10455271
Fuck you too, buddy.

>> No.10455351

>>10453229
He hasn't read shit, but these le epic libertarian owning irony bros
>>10452319
>>10453183
sure as hell haven't read a page of Menger or Mises.

Marx was a genius and his legacy is the entire 20th century in aggregate. Doesn't mean he wasn't working with an incomplete understanding of value at the time, and doesn't mean he didn't have some wacky ideas. If you vote for him as your favorite you're a faggot, probably moreso than if you vote for him as your least favorite.

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>>10453229
>*Does le action*

>> No.10455358

>>10455341
sounds pretty retarded desu

>> No.10455366

>>10455341
>The crux of Derrida's body of work is that all thought is metaphysical thought

Except in a proper totality fashion this subsumes metaphysics itself, leaving us with as you said. Nothing.

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>>10455358
have a (you)

>> No.10455372

>>10455142
Rand isn't a philosopher, but the lack of certain people e.g. Hayek is pretty telling.

>> No.10455377

Hi, OP. I chose Peter Singer as my favourite philosopher (not true) and Peter Singer as my least favourite philosopher (also not true) just to fuck with your test. Your test is shite; it's a lie. Good night. Buenas noches, adios

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>>10453287
>*Does le action*

>> No.10455383

>>10455337
cant (more like Kant) believe the analytic tradition read a 4chan post from some sperg dweeb and then ended itself... damn

>> No.10455384

>>10455372
In what universe is Hayek a philosopher

>> No.10455387

>>10455318
That's because /lit/ doesn't into academic philosophy; you've wondered into the English literature department, the philosophers are on /sci/.

>> No.10455388

>>10455372
>Hayek
who?

>> No.10455391

>>10455383
Epic argument faggot

>> No.10455393

>>10455387
>academic philosophy

No such thing
t. Studied philosophy academically

>> No.10455395

>>10455321
Continental philosophy is reddit you massive autist. When did retards here get such a weird idea of what goes on on other websites, e.g. reddit twitter Tumblr etc?

>> No.10455396

>>10455383
do you think any analytic philosophers have ever had sex?

>> No.10455402

>>10455391
Because you presented an argument to refute, ultrasperg fucking retard

>> No.10455404

>>10455396
>>10455391

>> No.10455406

>>10455393
What do you mean? academic philosophy almost always refers to analytical philosophy because it is the default philosophical school in academia in the Anglosphere by a huge margin.

>> No.10455410

>>10455395
no its not at all you fucking idiot

>> No.10455415

>>10455410
But it is dumbass. Another ~uncomfortable truth~: reddit is centre-left, if not far left at times.

>> No.10455418

>>10452698
saying newton plagiarized leibniz is incredibly wrong you megadumb

>> No.10455424

>>10455402
>Argument: Analytic philosophers would not and have no record of writing good fiction

>> No.10455427

>>10455415
>at times.

>> No.10455432

>>10455406
Maybe thirty years ago, not remotely true today

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>>10455424
Because they write nonfiction, little guy.

>> No.10455438

>>10454138
hmm maybe he just disagrees with his philosophical ideas

>> No.10455440

>>10455433
Not an argument

>> No.10455448

>>10455432
>not remotely true today
Analytical philosophers employed in Academic among all departments still outnumber continental philosophers 10-1, it increases to 20-1 when you only count philosophers employed by the philosophy departments.

And that isn't taking into account that most continental philosophers write in the style of Hume which approaches dangerously close to analytical.

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>>10455384
You're a retard

>> No.10455457

>>10455448
>And that isn't taking into account that most continental philosophers write in the style of Hume which approaches dangerously close to analytical.

Now you're making zero sense. There is no inherent continental style you silly fuck

>> No.10455460

>>10455440
You don't need to sperg out so hard because you hate truth and logic, little buddy.

>> No.10455462

>Nietzsche
babby's first philosopher

>> No.10455463

>>10455457
>Obscurantism isn't inherently found in continental philosophy
ok

>> No.10455465

>>10455454
>writes zero philosophy
>but I'm a philosopher because it sounds more impressive than run of the mill sociologist

>> No.10455466

>>10455384
If not a philosopher what the fuck was he? He was a political philosophy who pretended to be an economists. Even Milton Friedman said that Hayek was a lousy economist, and that his contributions were primarily political.

>> No.10455470

>>10455466
Why would OP include Hayek if he's not including Rawls, Nozick and Mill???!?

>> No.10455473

>>10455463
It isn't, you even just said so yourself.

>> No.10455480

>>10455466
>what the fuck was he

A Sociologist, the term simply didn't exist in his day which is why is still anachronistically called a philosopher

>> No.10455488

>>10455466
Economics is a philosophy. It sure as hell isn't a science. Hayek contributed a shit ton to the modern econ profession, you obvious pseud.

>> No.10455493

>>10455488
lel so what should Paul Krugman be added too? Dialecticians aren't philosophers, sorry

>> No.10455500

>>10455470
He should include those too, along with Land, Zizek, etc etc. Literally what's the downside of including more names? They make you sperg out and you don't think they're real philosophers? And yet le rhizome obscurantism continental man is there.

>> No.10455528

>>10455500
Maybe because he's actually a philosopher and has had a lasting reputation over the last half century and every name you mentioned are recent memes which have not stood even this short test of time
I guarantee no one will be reading Land fifty years from now

>> No.10455543

>>10455528
Funnily enough people made this exact argument when Nietzsche died.

>> No.10455567

>>10455543
Nietzsche will be forgotten too

Just like Bergson

>> No.10455570

>>10455366
Did you read the reply chain? My point boils down to 'Marx's conception of the search for truth is pre-Kantian, and that same concept still serves, unquestioned, as the 'metaphysical basis' for the projects of many scientists and philosophers of our time, continental and analytic alike'. It is in their denial of metaphysics that they are at their most 'traditionally' metaphysical, and that is exactly that kind of metaphysics which Hegel, and later Derrida, thoroughly discredited. It's not that these systems aren't metaphysics, it's that they are blinded by their lack of self-awareness and mystification.
My argument doesn't lead to the subsumption of metaphysics, because it creates a new specific negation against which it re-affirms its existence.

>> No.10455576

>>10455543
They also said it about a ton of absolute losers you'll never even hear about

>> No.10455584

Top 15:
1) Aristotle
2) Soren Kierkegaard
3) Plato
4) Socrates
5) Immanuel Kant
6) St Augustine
7) Ludwig Wittgenstein
8) Gottfried Leibniz
9) Friedrich Nietzsche
10) Martin Heidegger
11) Arthur Schopenhauer
12) David Hume
13) Marcus Aurelius
14) William James
15) Baruch Spinoza

Bottom 10:
10) David Chalmers
9) Jean-Paul Sartre
8) Jean-Jacques Rousseau
7) Johann Fichte
6) Bertrand Russell
5) Karl Marx
4) Jacques Derrida
3) Peter Singer
2) Michel Foucault
1) Dan Dennett

Good.

>> No.10455587

>>10455584
Much improved from earlier

>> No.10455618

>>10455488
go away /pol/

>> No.10455626

>>10452035
>Derrida beating people the psueds know
>Derrida beating all the actually talented philosophers that came before him
>any postmodernist beating anybody after JBP shitposters came in
Goodbye forever

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10455714

>>10455500
>along with Land, Zizek, etc etc

>> No.10455824

>>10455618
Get off the internet and pick up a book for once in your retarded life, le /pol/tard owner

>> No.10455841

>>10453086
>liking pozzed philosophers

>> No.10456084

>>10452003
Protagoras.

>> No.10456090

>>10456084
And epicurus

>> No.10456164

>>10452003
>no place in philosophy for my dudes Lao Tsu, Zhuangzi and Novalis and Parmenides
Why does /lit/ hate mysticism?

>> No.10456167

>>10456164
Laozi, Chuangzi are anarcho-monarchists and anti-technological civilization

haven't read the others

>> No.10456207

>>10456164
it's not philosophy

>> No.10456268

>>10456167
>anarcho-monarchists
backstory?

>> No.10456303

>>10456268
Anarcho-monarchists are basically just Minarchists who believe a Monarchy would do a better job than than a democratic government at providing the small number of services they endorse.

A popular argument they use is that governments/states are too impersonal and inhuman.

>> No.10456309

>>10456207
yes, yes it is
>>10456268
just read Zhuangzi and Daodejing and come to your own conclusions anon. they’re both very short texts

>> No.10456336

>>10456303
>Anarcho-monarchists are basically just Minarchists
not anarchism

dropped

>> No.10456359

>>10455462
this

did someone link this poll to r/nihilism?

>> No.10456376

Overall ranking:
1) Aristotle
2) Soren Kierkegaard
3) Plato
4) Friedrich Nietzsche
5) Socrates
6) Immanuel Kant
7) Ludwig Wittgenstein
8) St Augustine
9) Arthur Schopenhauer
10) Martin Heidegger
11) Marcus Aurelius
12) David Hume
13) Gottfried Leibniz
14) Thomas Aquinas
15) Baruch Spinoza
16) Epictetus
17) William James
18) Gottlob Frege
19) Saul Kripke
20) Boethius
21) Gilles Deleuze
22) Averroes
23) Donald Davidson
24) Edmund Husserl
25) Charles Sanders Peirce
26) Epicurus
27) Thomas Hobbes
28) John Locke
29) John Searle
31) Sextus Empiricus
32) GWF Hegel
33) Rene Descartes
34) Richard Rorty
35) George Berkeley
36) WVO Quine
37) David Chalmers
38) Johann Fichte
39) Jean-Jacques Rousseau
40) Jean-Paul Sartre
41) Bertrand Russell
42) Peter Singer
43) Dan Dennett
44) Jacques Derrida
45) Michel Foucault
46) Karl Marx

>> No.10456516

>>10456167
Jesus Christ, could you do any more of a Marxist reading of these authors? Absolutely disgusting.

>> No.10456543

>>10456516
>could you do any more of a Marxist reading of these authors?

>>10456167
you heard the man, do a more marxist reading NOW

>> No.10456566

>no DFW
This place is garbage

>> No.10456945

Karl Marx rated least favorite by far, followed by the postmodernists in 2nd 3rd and 4th place. And that's on /lit/. Just goes to show how trash they all are. But yeah Marx deserves the shit trophy.

>> No.10456950

>>10456516
t. eternally perturbed yet self-assured *nglo

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Glad all the commies are getting rated lowest

>> No.10456979

>>10456945
JP? is that you?

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10456983

>> No.10456987
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10456987

>>10452950
Everything about it is wrong desu

>> No.10456996

>>10456983
>ethusiastists

brainlet disregarded

>> No.10457180

>>10452035
>Jacques Derrida
>"don't have strong opinions goy, be a centrist there are good parts on each side"

>> No.10457230

>>10455351
Marx was a subversive kike descending from a long line of elite Rabbinic scholars and his niggling anti culture horse shit has caused more grief than good, I don't care how impressive his intellect seems to be or how much cred he gets in high-brow "intellectual" circles for his societal critique. By the way, the 20th century has been an unmitigated fucking disaster as pertains to politics and philosophy surpassed only by the 21st thus far.

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10457234

Best: St. Aquinas
Worst: William of Ockham (introduced nominalism which we now currently suffer under)

>> No.10457242

>>10457234
Nominalism = not being a retard

>> No.10457246

>>10457242
rofl no wonder you picked Derrida or some nu-philosopher

>> No.10457468

>>10452048
>being a consequentialist
>being a utilitarian
Stop this please

>> No.10457488

>>10452003
how is Singer not topping the least favorite list? the guy is a joke

>> No.10457496

>>10457488
He's such a fool its hard to be mad at him, its a senile old lady

>> No.10457553

>>10452003
Alain de botton isn’t on least favourite?

>> No.10457555

>>10457553
Being a cult leader using other peoples ideas doesn't make you a philosopher

>> No.10457572

>>10457488
He's not relevant or interesting enough to elicit particularly negative emotions.

>> No.10458061

>>10457572
>defends raping disabled people
>defends bestiality
>dude you HAVE to give all your money to niggers lmao

>> No.10458131

>>10455163
/pol/ is the most heavily spooked board. Stirnerposting is the antidote to /pol/.

>> No.10459027

>>10452003
this thread deserves a bump desu

>> No.10459517

>>10458131
"spooks" arent a thing

>> No.10459527

>>10459027
no it doesn’t you fucking insect
>>10459517
yes they most certainly are

>> No.10459786

>>10452682
A poll about philosofers

>> No.10459837

>>10457180
Definitely never read Derrida then.

>> No.10459900

Based:
Aristoteles
Hume
Heidegger

Kill yourself if you voted:
Kierkegaard
Deleuze
Aurelius, Russell, Singer, Dennet and so on

>> No.10460030

>>10459900
>Kill yourself if you voted:
>Kierkegaard
kill YOURself

>> No.10460200

Top 15 (normal):
1) Soren Kierkegaard
2) Plato
3) Friedrich Nietzsche
4) Aristotle
5) Immanuel Kant
6) Socrates
7) Ludwig Wittgenstein
8) St Augustine
9) Arthur Schopenhauer
10) Marcus Aurelius
11) Martin Heidegger
12) David Hume
13) Gottfried Leibniz
14) Thomas Aquinas
15) Epictetus

Top 15 (with stronger anti-pseud transformation):
1) Soren Kierkegaard
2) Aristotle
3) St Augustine
4) Plato
5) Socrates
6) Ludwig Wittgenstein
7) Immanuel Kant
8) Gottfried Leibniz
9) Friedrich Nietzsche
10) Arthur Schopenhauer
11) Epictetus
12) Marcus Aurelius
13) Martin Heidegger
14) David Hume
15) Baruch Spinoza

Bottom 10 (normal):
1) Karl Marx
2) Jacques Derrida
3) Peter Singer
4) Michel Foucault
5) Dan Dennett
6) Bertrand Russell
7) Jean-Paul Sartre
8) Jean-Jacques Rousseau
9) David Chalmers
10) John Searle

Bottom 10 (with stronger anti-pseud algorithm):
1) Dan Dennett
2) Jacques Derrida
3) Peter Singer
4) Bertrand Russell
5) Michel Foucault
6) Karl Marx
7) David Chalmers
8) Jean-Paul Sartre
9) Jean-Jacques Rousseau
10) John Searle

>> No.10460240

>>10460200
Surprisingly correct opinions for the two anti-pseud lists.

>> No.10460268

>>10452003
>no Heraclitus as an option
Weak poll, man

>> No.10460330

>>10454092
That's odd... Marx never did any economics

>> No.10460364

>board likes Nietzsche
>doesn't dislike his mortal enemies
hmmm

>> No.10460374

Nobody likes analytic philosophers except for analytic philosophers. Get over it.

>> No.10460380

>>10452003
The problem with this kind of poll is that it doesn't represent who is our favourite, but the one most of us can agree upon liking. Being able to select multiple options is a mistake.

>> No.10460600

>>10452035
>>10452048
both of these are fucking garbage lmao

>> No.10460613

>>10452695
>https://strawpoll.com/zyxghr27
he thinks scholasticism is aristotle and doesn't want to take into account the fact that most of his work is lost

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>>10452003
Why is everyone ganging up on Russell?

>> No.10460696

>>10452003
yep, I've certainly read wikipedia entries on at least 5 of these!
*votes

>> No.10460704

>>10460666
Im sorry to say Satan, but he was a massive homo-faggot

>> No.10460766

>>10460666
They're likely religious and butthurt about his little teapot observation.

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>>10452003
Karl Marx
>laughs in egoism

>> No.10460858

>>10460766
>>10460666

all these satanic digits

>> No.10461108

>>10460666
he had kind of retarded views on politics, religion and the history of philosophy

but he doesnt deserve nearly this much hate

a better question is why is nietzsche getting so much love

>> No.10461110

>>10460364
im willing to bet money that no one who voted nietzsche knows anything about his enemies

>> No.10461140

>>10461110
Who are his fucking enemies?
Kant?
Hegel?
Plato?
Jesus?

He criticises Hegel, implicitly, a lot, and Plato too.
Unless you're talking about the likes of Paul Ree and Wilamowitz (spelling?)...

>> No.10461147

>everybody butthurt about daddy marx
always a pleasure

>> No.10461249

>>10460380
Sadly this, although I’m loving butthurt.

>> No.10461362

>>10461108
How can you dislike Nietzsche?
If it were only one favourite, I wouldn't have chosen him, but I marked him as well.

>> No.10461377

Plato, Aristotle, Hegel, Heidegger.

I have no idea what I think of things. I'm too retarded to understand details and connections so I just abstract until I've come to conclusion that:" "

>> No.10462210

>>10452003
>Berkeley and Hume but no Smith or Ferguson
>no Camus
Consigned to the trash heap.

>> No.10462511

>>10452003
>no whitehead
some poll you've got there

>> No.10462539

>>10455339
>montaigne
my negro

>> No.10462990

>>10455567
lindy effect my dear bro

>> No.10463060

>>10460330
>literally uses supply and demand to show how laborers wages halved when the labor required by them was halved (his example was clothes-makers and I think the invention of the loom) in the first few chapters of Capital
>wtf Marx never did any economics

I don't know why this seems to be a favored tactic, to say Marx didn't actually say/do something, even when he obviously did. It's like the LTV, which although Marx never used the phrase Labor Theory of Value, he propounded something incredibly similar to it called the Law of Value which related to exchange values. Is the purpose to get people to read Marx or something? idk.

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>>10460666
Burt! Another chance encounter! Oh? Your book is selling well, good to hear! Too bad I proved it's incomplete, but it's a useful exercise nonetheless. Anyways, I'll read your musings about a teapot if you'll read my modal proof for the existence of a necessary being; I'm worried about your soul old friend. What? You don't even want to read that crap? Well that's disappointing Burt, I hope you have a nice day though.

>> No.10463136

>>10455488
>economics is a philosophy
You're a fucking nigger who doesn't know what economics and philosophy means
Get out of my board brainlet

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>>10463136

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Least favourite are Marx, Derrida, and Foucault.

Y'all are a bunch of conservative brainlets

>> No.10464604

>>10463468
Derrida said absolutely nothing of value

>> No.10464614

>>10452003
Whats our criteria of favorite, like I love reading Descartes but I think he's retarded. I cant stand Hegel but he's pretty gud

>> No.10465119

>>10454894
>found the analytical faggot
go jerk off about axioms somewhere else

>> No.10465268

>no bataille
shit poll

>> No.10465280

Where do I start with Other? What's his best work?

>> No.10466141

>>10452048

This

op is a pleb

>> No.10466782

Final Poll:
1) Soren Kierkegaard
2) Plato
3) Friedrich Nietzsche
4) Aristoitle
5) Immanuel Kant
6) Socrates
7) Ludwig Wittgenstein
8) Arthur Schopenhauer
9) St Augustine
10) Gottfried Leibniz
11) Marcus Aurelius
12) Martin Heidegger
13) Epictetus
14) David Hume
15) Baruch Spinoza
16) Thomas Aquinas
17) William James
18) Charles Sanders Peirce
19) Boethius
20) Gottlob Frege
21) Gilles Deleuze
22) Thomas Hobbes
23) Avverroes
24) Rene Descartes
25) Edmund Husserl
26) John Locke
27) Saul Kripke
28) Richard Rorty
29) GWF Hegel
30) Epicurus
31) Sextus Empiricus
32) WVO Quine
33) David Chalmers
34) Donald Davidson
35) Johann Fichte
36) George Berkeley
37) John Searle
38) Jean-Paul Sartre
39) Jean-Jacques Rousseau
40) Michel Foucault
41) Bertrand Russell
42) Dan Dennett
43) Jacques Derrida
44) Karl Marx
45) Peter Singer

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10467646

>>10466782
Surprisingly decent.
1-25 are all ok even though the order is questionable while 26-45 are all trash (perhaps a bit harsh on Berkeley but I get why he's on the short side).
>dat bottom five
Well done, /lit/, well done.
I guess OP assumed that Mill was in the darkest pit so he didn't even need to be named.

>>10454077
A clear oversight, but including Newman would stop the anti-Anglo bandwagon.