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10697421 No.10697421 [Reply] [Original]

What are some good books that approach the issue of destroying the ego from a spiritual perspective? I suppose I’m thinking something vaguely along the lines of the Tibetan Book of the Dead - I want to learn to be less hypersensitive to criticism and less prone to ruminating on sarcastic comments about by people in my life. At the moment I’m consciously choosing to stop blowing my top at the first sight of someone making a snide remark to me in conversation, but it kind of destroys me from within and I’m still thinking about it hours later.

>> No.10697430

>>10697421
Bhagavad-Gita

>> No.10697471

>>10697421
"Ego" as in "ego death" doesn't really mean the same thing as "ego" as in "man, that guy's got a big ego."

>> No.10697507

>>10697471
Can you explain the difference?

>> No.10697532

>>10697507
The former is your sense of identity and self, the latter is something like excessive pride. You probably don't want to get rid of the former.

>> No.10697575

meditate, do some psychedelics, don't take things so personally.

>> No.10697576

>>10697532
This. The ego is a necessary part of the human process and can be used in a beneficial way to navigate the plane of existence

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10697595

>>10697532
>>10697576
Is this true, /lit/? Not OP but for the past few months I've been terrified of the idea that I should get rid of my ego (sense of identity and self, not excessive pride). Am I off the hook for this one? Can I live a wise life and still have a sense of identity and self?

>> No.10697608

Lift and don't be such a faggot

>> No.10697622

>>10697595
You need to cultivate a detachment from emotions and thoughts, watch them like you would a thrilling drama; or dont, there are no things that need to be done and no ego that needs to be lost.
You decide how you want your experience to be, if you want contentment then there are many avenues to attain it.
Stop using thoughts to determine you and instead just watch the world internally and externally.

>> No.10697626

>>10697430
The Bhagavad Gita is racist garbage.

>> No.10697673

>>10697595
Buddists and nihilists are often pariahs and scumbags of earth.
They despise ego for they cant achieve them. They become slaves to their morality for they cant do otherwise. Petty kind and their need for cynic expression. Their love for dispassion is good for women and slaves, and robots perhaps, not for war-faring men. They did not build Roman empire, Romans did.

>> No.10697677

>>10697626
the bible is racist garbo too
human is racist by instinct. dont believe those lies spread by those socialists and women

>> No.10697680

>>10697421
if youre a 4chan poster you likely need to worry about not being a maladjusted retard before you worry about " destroying your ego"

>> No.10697687

>>10697626
How so?

>> No.10697697

>>10697595
Getting rid of your ego is something that can only really be done temporarily, it would also be retarded to get rid of it permanently. You just need to realize that life isn't just happening inside your head life goes on within you and without you.

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The ego is everything and there is no escaping, there is no undermining it. You begin with it and you end with it and any attempt to repress it is just a self-contradicting castration and just as egotistical act as any.
What a poor disgrace Buddhists are. I despise them

>> No.10697706

>>10697680
hahaha this. Be careful with your self delusion kids.

>> No.10697707

>>10697697
>You just need to realize that life isn't just happening inside your head

kek for me, yes it absolutely does

>> No.10697710

>>10697673
Please stop posting

>> No.10697716

>>10697702
t. brainlet.

>> No.10697718

>>10697716
Not an argument

>> No.10697721

>>10697710
please shut up and suffer yoru fate of being silenced, buddist wannabe

>> No.10697725

>>10697680
Unirinonically, what do you think are some universal characteristics of 4chan posters?

>> No.10697733

>>10697725
gay and retarded

>> No.10697774

Read Siddhartha if you haven't already. Also how old are you?

>> No.10697776

>>10697626
You're delusional. Never read again.

>> No.10697780

>hurr i have no ego
>go around stroking your ego by claiming you have no ego

biggest crock of hot bullshit i've ever read
get your terrence mckenna shit outta here

>> No.10697850

>>10697780
what does that have to do with terence mckenna lol?

>> No.10697858

>>10697421
stop reading so many books and trip acid

>> No.10697860

>>10697421
Siddhartha
Steppenwolff
Crime and Punishment

>> No.10697864

>ego
The freudian ego isnt fucking real.

>> No.10697916

>>10697864
That's exactly what an ego would say

>> No.10697930

The point of ego death is understanding the significance of yourself as an individual in comparison to humanity as a collective consciousness. If you want to kill your ego kill your individuality and submit yourself to the hivemind, falsified opposition disguising an underlying sense of guidance is a good start, but I think you're looking for >>>/adv/.

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>>10697697
>You just need to realize life goes on within you and without you.

>> No.10698025

An ego does not exist on 4chan, you can be whoever you want to be when you shit post. Bring that mentality to the real world, and you’ll see enlightenment come your way

>> No.10698176

What is the proof that an "ego" exists?

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10698210

IM 12 AND WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS THREAD

>> No.10698480

>>10697622
Thanks for the advice

>> No.10699382

>>10697858
yeah, let him experience the melting away of his ego, just to come crawling back to it because he couldn't differentiate between ego, as in the self and ego in terms of having high pride.

>> No.10699530

>>10698210
she looks like hershalg

>> No.10699656

>>10697725
Autism clearly

>> No.10699678

>>10697710
lolled

I agree

>> No.10699724

>>10697626
6/10, caught me by surprise
>>10697702
he is magnificent, but you are wrong
>>10697718
and you disappoint me
>>10697725
autism, sexual depravity or repression, smelling funny, horrible fashion sense, incapable of taking anything seriously

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>>10699724
>autism, sexual depravity or repression, smelling funny, horrible fashion sense, incapable of taking anything seriously

don't forget depression.

>> No.10699934

>>10697421
You've been tripping too much.

>> No.10700279

>>10698176
What is the proof that I should give a damn about proving it.

>> No.10700296

>>10697421
look closely at the image
it looks more like lego than ego

>> No.10700305

'Ego death' is some new age bullshit dilution based on religious texts that themselves are only vaguely based on the religious texts that came before.
Stop accepting terms at face value.

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10700308

Seriously, should I read this book?

>> No.10701144

>>10700279
Keep chasing your tail.

>> No.10701600

>>10697673
A bit too dramatic for my taste

>> No.10701630

>>10697673
>they despise ego for they can't achieve them
Everyone develops an ego, retard. Buddhism is an attempt to seperate oneself from one's ego and liberate oneself from material or egoistic concerns that only serve to hold us down.
Either you're defining ego differently or you have no clue what you're talking about.

>> No.10701659

>>10701144
How could I chase my tail if my tail doesn't exist wiseguy?

>> No.10701717

>>10701659
It exists in your mind. That's his point: you're chasing something thay doesn't even exist.

>> No.10702183

>>10697677
this

>> No.10702192

>>10700308
yes

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>>10700308
yes, yes you should. I know it seems like a meme but it's actually decent.

>> No.10702207

>>10701717
My mind is all that exists

>> No.10702317

http://www.naturalthinker.net/trl/texts/McKenna,Jed/SpiritualEnlightenment-DamnestThing.pdf

discovered this after i'd already gotten over my own ego, so can't vouch for it myself
but he sounds legit

also, my diary desu. but i doubt you'll find it useful

>> No.10702370

You can't destroy your ego, you always assume an ego when you act, and acting is also thinking. Neither you can diminish your ego, by that I mean the function of your ego as the percipitation of you as such. You are trying to train your mind to live frugally and be happy or whatever you want, enjoy nirvana, but it won't change the fact that its not an act of letting your ego go but ardent constraining and forced habit through semantic feel good contriving.

>> No.10702410

>>10702207
to exist means to stand out from a background, against what background does your mind stand out against?

the answer is more mind, but that mind cannot think "my". The "me" thinks "my", the me sits like a drop in the ocean of mind

when it surrenders there is only the infinite stillness and eternal silence of the...

>> No.10702420

>>10702410
>to exist means to stand out from a background

No it doesn't

>> No.10702564

>>10702410
>against what background does your mind stand out against?
>against ... against?
Tragic

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10702665

>>10700308
>TEAIO
>The Billionaires Bible

>> No.10702687

Lol there are 3 types of egos

Ego death in shamanism is the one thats induced via psychedelics.

>> No.10702722

>>10702687
>induced via psychedelics.
Not induced just by psychedelics, but they are the quickest and most consistent way to get there.

>> No.10702738

>>10698176
What is proof consciousness exist? stfu nerd

>> No.10702750

>>10702722
Yes, I agree absolutely.
Honestly of the 3 this is the spiritual ego.
This is why Paul says he dies everday.
He acted like a monk.( parallels buddhism)

>> No.10702752

>>10702738
>What is proof consciousness exist?
Good question. Those should be answered before you try and figure out how they work.

>> No.10702767

>>10702752
Except the only way to answer it is through consciousness. Its a fools errand and in the end must be taken as self evident if you have any shred of intellectual honesty

>> No.10702784

>>10702752
>I do not understand how the universe was created or why it exists
>therefore I shouldn't try to understand any of the things in it
this is your brain on atheism folks

>> No.10702844

>>10702784
>this is your brain on atheism folks
But I'm not an atheist anon.
>>I do not understand how the universe was created or why it exists
>>therefore I shouldn't try to understand any of the things in it
A conclusion is always wrong if we don't fully understand the premises. Our faith in God is the only thing we can definitely understand. Do you claim to know more than God?

>> No.10703584

>>10697626
classist absolutely, but far from racist

>> No.10703690

>>10697421
> from a spiritual perspective
I feel that purposefully going after "spiritual" ideas is well intentioned but ultimately not as effective in terms of words read / time unit.
There are many secular that talk about destroying or subduing the ego in a manner that is more direct and understandable for western readers. I'll suggest Robert Anton Wilson. (am I going to get lynched for this? don't come to /lit/ often)

>> No.10704852

>>10697595
Hindus literally believe that we are all part of the same soul. If you don’t, you have to think of yourself as an individual, because in all meaningful senses you are.

>> No.10705008

Ego death from lsd sucks don't do it

>> No.10705015

>>10705008
Don't listen to this anon it's great.

>> No.10705022

>>10705015
Got anything interesting to share?

For me I just felt even more lost in the world than before. The trip was fuckin awesome tho

>> No.10705044

>>10697595
I briefly went through an ego death.

Don't do it. You'll make the other parts of your mind very sad. You'll feel that saddness echoeing inside your head. It's a huge burden to the other parts of your mind which loved you.

>> No.10705058

>>10705022
>For me I just felt even more lost in the world than before.
This is a great feeling though. I see it as a rediscovering of novelty that you weren't able to see before. A very positive and cathartic experience.

For future trips, I suggest you try your best not to fight the experience. The transition from just tripping to an ego death event can be easy or hard. It's best to give in right away and let the chemical express itself fully without a struggle.