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Space opera edition

>What's your favorite space opera?
>is the genre dead?
>what are the best space opera books that have been released in the last 5 years?

FANTASY
Selected:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21329.jpg
General:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21328.jpg
Flowchart:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21327.jpg

SCIENCE FICTION
Selected:
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General:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21332.jpg
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21330.jpg

NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21333.jpg

SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
>http://greatsfandf.com/authors-full-list.php

Previous Threads:
>>10701793
>>10687103
>>10667398
>>10651204

>> No.10717349

Classic scifi sucks

>> No.10717352

>>10717349
you are mom sucks my dick

>> No.10717363

sanderfag a hack

>> No.10717382

>>10717363
Stormlight vs First law

Who you got senpai?

>> No.10717388

>>10717339
Why has the fantasy genre never had an author to surpass Tolkien?
explain yourselbs

>> No.10717401

>>10717388
>picks the best author in a genre
>hurpaderp w-why is no one butter me no understand

>> No.10717404

>>10717388
Swanwick.

>> No.10717416

>>10717388
Why haven't you literary fictionfags ever topped Ulysses?

>> No.10717433

>>10717401
it's been almost seventy years since LoTR was published, why is it not pertinent to ask why nobody has surpassed it in that time?

>> No.10717450

>>10717433
Ulysses is older

>> No.10717569
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10717569

any far future hard scifi? that is, more believable and "realistic" interpretations of humans in far future. Doesn't have to be dying Earth.

>> No.10717638

>>10717569
Have you read 'Last and First Men', and 'Star Maker' by Olaf Stapeldon?

>> No.10717639

>>10717352
You can do better than that

>> No.10717649

>>10717339

Why don’t you check out The Expanse books by James SA Corey.

They’re ok

>> No.10717655

Any fantasy/adventure/romance that is self aware that its paganism?

>> No.10717677

>>10717639
alright
you are mom chokes on my enormous benis

>> No.10717724

Help me remember the name of a fantasy series.

The first book was about a fat spoiled prince who gets sent to a remote part of the kingdom where he is supposed to learn how to govern. He sucks at it and people try to take advantage of him, but over time he becomes more manly. At some point he gets struck by lightning and afterwards he develops some kind of magic power, which turns out to be related to some evil god or something.

That's all I remember.

>> No.10717745

>>10717724
Sounds neato

>> No.10717788
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10717788

I feel like such a pleb for loving this so much. My first warhammer book. Definitely got me interested in the franchise.

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Postan! 2-3 threads left before deadline!

Read online: www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/soi.aspx
E-book: https://archive.org/details/TheCompleteWorksOfHPLovecraft_201412 (including like 30 additional stories)
Audio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFZrqYn5f_0

>> No.10717975
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10717975

Is this series really worth the time invested?

>> No.10718000

>>10717388
>implying
Wolfe come to mind, and I'm sure that there are more authors that are consistently better.

>> No.10718012

>>10718000
Wolfe is technically sci-fi since there's no magic, at least there isn't in the Solar Cycle

>> No.10718022

>>10717655
The Vorrh, maybe?

>> No.10718040

Why can I immediately be immersed into China Mieville's works but for the life of me can't get into Terry Prachett's writings?

>> No.10718114

>>10717569
Golden Age, John C Wright. Super-future civilization with technology that causes as many problems as it solves.

>> No.10718136

>>10717975
Serious question:

Why doesn't Steven Erikson try to rewrite GOTM?

Malazan gets recommended so much online, yet always with the preface of 'Gardens of the Moon makes no sense, just struggle through it". If he wrote a more readable introduction to the series, surely it would boost Malazan's popularity, and allow more readers to get into the series?

It seems to be widely regarded as a piece of shit book, so I see no reason not to alter it?

>> No.10718179

>>10718040
i can't stand either tbph, but i find mieville particularly dreadful
>look it's london, but it's not london
>look at these guys, they have beetles for heads
>i wonder what it would be like to have sex with one
>communism
at least pratchett has some (some) funny moments and isn't expecting you to take his novels seriously

>> No.10718241

>>10718022
>Africa
Niggers?
>cyclops raised by robots
What...?

>> No.10718296

I just started posting in these thread and see that you guys reccomend BotNS and Blindsight a lot. What other sci fi books are well regarded here? I want to get a good list of books to try

>> No.10718298

/sci/ is full of dicks, perhaps you can answer me. How pressurized chambers helps meat to survive high accelerations?

>> No.10718300

>>10718296
Echopraxia

>> No.10718305

>>10718298
is the meat halal?

>> No.10718310

>>10717975
No. Just like WoT, ASoIaF and Stormlight the time invested is not really worth it. You only keep reading because you've started.

>> No.10718315

Is 'Love Minimal' a cool name for a fighter spacecraft

also how do i make space dogfighting interesting,
also what weapons should my fighter spacecraft have,

>> No.10718316

>>10718012
>at least there isn't in the Solar Cycle
True. But like you're implying the Solar Cycle is not Wolfes only work.

>> No.10718320

>>10718305
cats and dogs, mostly humans

>> No.10718321

>>10718296
Can't really go wrong with Philip K Dick tbph

>> No.10718323

>>10718298
im not that well versed in science but i seem to remember the pressure on the meat compresses it so that the force caused by the accelleration has less of an effect on it because it is more denser in the compressed form.

>> No.10718326

>>10718310
ASoIAF is actually a fun read, though. Even if it's not finished i'm glad I read it.

>> No.10718329

>>10718296
>>10718321 and Jack Vance. The Three Body Problem is recommended quite often but there are some that don't like it.

>> No.10718347

>>10718323
Right, so your bits wont jiggle around. Thanks

>> No.10718351

opinions on Clarke?

>> No.10718357

>>10718296
>I just started posting in these thread and see that you guys reccomend BotNS and Blindsight a lot. What other sci fi books are well regarded here? I want to get a good list of books to try

Lindsay's A Voyage to Arcturus if you want something ultra creative and "out there"

There are lots of sci-fi books I personally like but "well regarded" in /sffg/ is a bit tough since people disagree a lot.

PKD is well-liked here. And he is great. In particular, in general most of us think very highly of A Scanner Darkly, Three Stigmata of Peter Eldritch and VALIS.

>> No.10718371

>>10718351
he came up with a lot of great concepts in his novels, but he doesn't write good plots or characters.
his better works (imho) are Songs of Distant Earth and The Light of Other Days, which he actually co-wrote with Stephen Baxter.
>>10718357
>most of us think very highly of A Scanner Darkly, Three Stigmata of Peter Eldritch and VALIS
what about Ubik? I think it more than deserves to be included with those other three.

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>apu-punchau is severian
what the FUCK is going on

>> No.10718381

>>10718351
I think he's better than Asimov, he seems to deal with themes like the reactions of society to technology better. Still kind of shallow in my opinion though.

>> No.10718383

>>10718371
>what about Ubik? I think it more than deserves to be included with those other three.

You're absolutely right. My mistake, Ubik is one of his best

>>10718379
Welcome to the patrician-sphere ;)

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>>10718379
glad you like it anon

>> No.10718416

>>10718381
>I think he's better than Asimov
is that supposed to be a compliment?
haynes manuals are more exciting than asimov

>> No.10718441

>>10718012
Wizard Knight my man

>> No.10718445

Thank god for Sanderson-sama

>> No.10718452

>>10718296
The Dying Earth by Jack Vance. Rest of the solar cycle by Wolfe, or 5th head of cerberus or Wizard Knight for fantasy wolfe. I'm reading Latro at the moment and its fantastic.

Hyperion is also really great. Really satisfying plot and characters.

>> No.10718455

>>10718320
>cats and dogs, mostly humans

so that's a "no", then

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>>10718452
>Hyperion is also really great. Really satisfying plot and characters.
I unironically agree with this.
I will never forget the Shrike for as long as I live.

>> No.10718472

I think I'll read Ashton Smith's Zotique cycle before Vance cause I've read in multiple ocassions how he was the original Dying Earth writer and how Vance was very influenced by him. Also everything else I've read by him is great.

>> No.10718504

What does /sffG/ think of Iain M Banks' Culture novels?
I found them all very entertaining, particularly the AI characters, the Ships and some of the unique aliens, but the only novel which has stuck with me is Use of Weapons.

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>>10718504
pretty sure they're popular around here
I've only read the first two (Phlebas and Player of Games) and personally I found the first one lacking but the second one a great easygoing adventure sci fi
just started the third one (Use of Weapons) yesterday and it's looking good so far

>> No.10718541

>>10718504
I'm a fan. Despite the slightly ridiculous utopian aspect.

Consider Phlebas is my favourite - I know I'm in the minority there. But it was great seeing it from the POV of someone critical of the Culture, also at a point in history before the Culture became totally dominant. And it was a very wild ride.

I hated the fat guy on the island sequence though. That was fucking disgusting. IDK what Iain M Banks was thinking.

>> No.10718652

Which one of these is the best?
Locus Fantasy
World Fantasy Awards
Arthur C. Clarke

>> No.10718677 [SPOILER] 
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10718677

Why do good books end up with such bad cover art. I am like 99% sure BoTNS would be more widely read if the cover weren't so dogshit.

>> No.10718684

What's /sffg/'s opinion on the Sad Puppies?

>> No.10718695

>>10718652
>Arthur C. Clarke

Best by far

>> No.10718704

>>10718677
No way is that a real cover.

>> No.10718710

>>10717339
>Space opera edition
>>What's your favorite space opera?
Don't have one

>>is the genre dead?
Naw, just over filled

>>what are the best space opera books that have been released in the last 5 years?
Perilous Waif by E Williams Brown
https://williamscorner.blog/

>> No.10718720

>>10718684
doing the wrong thing for the right reasons.

>> No.10718778

What are the most interesting novels in this list?

http://greatsfandf.com/overlooked-books.php

>> No.10718867

>>10717724
lmao I'll start writing it thanks fag

>> No.10718929

>>10718315
sounds like a stupid name tbqh, it's like a Iain M. Banks name except without any of the things that make his ship names interesting

>> No.10719003

>>10718778
Almost anything by:
John Bellairs
Lord Dunsany
E.R. Eddison
R. A. Lafferty

>> No.10719005

>>10718136
Stop listening to idiots. GotM is, technically, the worst of the series, yes, but that doesn't mean it's bad. It's just inferior than the others. There was a non insignificant time-span between releases, Erikson grew and improved as a writer.
GotM isn't even bad. It's just your first exposure to the universe, the narrative style and Erikson particular way of constructing and telling a story.

Malazan isn't perfect, but it's certainly among the better epic fantasy series. It's an acquired taste, and GotM is everybody's way of acquiring that taste, thus its 'reputation'.

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Question: What's everyone's favorite instance of a character going 'enough is enough' and just letting loose? Sanderson is a hack, but apart from him I can't think of too many others. It's a power fantasy to be sure, but it's enjoyable.

>> No.10719051

Webnovels are novels too

>> No.10719087

>>10719027
Worm had a few of these

The thing with Alexandria and the final battle cheif among them

The former was kind of bullshit though in that she probably should have gotten the death penalty

>> No.10719120

>>10717975
I’m on book 6 and loving it. It’s mostly been improving in quality as it’s gone on so unless books 7 and 8 turn out to be total garbage I’m in it for the long haul.

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>>10718778
Avram Davidson is interesting, especially "The Phoenix and the Mirror". He's quite Wolfean.

So in medieval times a lot of people thought (I presume unironically), that Virgil - the very same author of the Aeneid - was not just a poet and author but also a magician, a Magus. Some of them would open Virgil's books at random pages and use it for divination and they thought it was literally magical. This is legit real history and people thought like this for hundreds of years:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortes_Vergilianae

And the premise of this novel is to say, ok, what if Virgil actually WAS a Magus and could actually do magic. And classical gods and shit.

Really haberdashers your hazelnuts, as they say, so to speak.

>> No.10719188

>>10719027
Few moments like that have ever been as satisfying to me as Merlin of Chaos revealing his true form as a Lord of Chaos and annihilating an ogre.

>> No.10719191
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>>10719027
>Question: What's everyone's favorite instance of a character going 'enough is enough' and just letting loose?
Cnaiür urs Skiotha REEEEING at Kellhus so hard that he became the God of Hate

>> No.10719200

>>10719188
muh Zelazny nigga

>> No.10719254

>>10719027
>What's everyone's favorite instance of a character going 'enough is enough' and just letting loose?

Hmm. It might be Theoden leading the charge into the Battle of the Pelennor fields. The combination of the really shit time he'd been having for years prior to that, seeing the armies sieging the city are too big to defeat, not knowing what happened with Aragorn, basically the near certainty of knowing he's going to die on this field away from home.

It's high time to slap a bitch and that's what he does.

As I remember it he charges down that hill and outpaces all of his bodyguards, and absolutely no one can stand in his way... until THAT confrontation.

Or it could even be Eomer's transition into apeshit mode after he learns Theoden is dead, when all the riders around him are just screaming DEATH

>> No.10719264

>>10719191
ugggh dude I'm gonna finish The Thousandfold Thought tonight. The first book was a fuckin snore but I'm definitely into it now.

>> No.10719285

>>10718527
I'll check those two out.

>> No.10719305

>>10719264
The first book is one of the best in the series, but only on a re-read. On the first read through it's pretty rough.

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>>10719027
Pic related.

Tightly wound protagonist is slowly losing his mind. Story ratchets up tension until it explodes in unforgettable violence.

Absolutely perfect pacing. Dont know why more people havent read this book.

>> No.10719448

>>10717339
>>What's your favorite space opera?
Alastair Reynolds

>>is the genre dead?
Nope, Expanse is doing great on TV, the book series is only a half-dead horse by now, with new entries being solid. Also, here were two different Star Trek series on last year.

>>what are the best space opera books that have been released in the last 5 years?
Poseidon's Children was just fine. The Luna: New Moon books were interesting enough, although they only take place on the moon pretty much.

>> No.10719606

>tfw want to read, but can't get motivated

>> No.10719626

>>10719606
Just start reading wtf. Instead of reading my worthless post you could have read two highly rewarding sentences.

>> No.10719632

>>10719606
turn off your computer, put your phone into another room, it's not complicated

>> No.10719671

>>10717339
>What's your favorite space opera?
Vorksovagian
>Is it dead
No there's loads of good shit of late
>what are the best space opera books that have been released in the last 5 years?
off the top of my head for fun stuff there's Vatta's Peace, Vick's Vultures and Poor Man's War
For legitimately good stuff there's the Ancillary books

>> No.10719675
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>>10719626
What if the two sentences OP would have been reading were from the Julia sex scene in Too Meme The Lightning?

>> No.10719710

Can anyone think of any good fantasy where the main character is a vampire?

I was wondering about this earlier and all I could think of was vampire as villain stuff or gay ass Anne Rice style books

>> No.10719721
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>>10719710
hope that helps

>> No.10719741

>>10719721
Literally everyone except Dracula is a narrator lol

>> No.10719746

Man Red Rising doesn't work well on a second read, all of the twists become annoying when you know they're coming

>> No.10719750

How is Dick not on that website? Dick is the best.

>> No.10719754

>>10719741
yeah but he's the main character tho

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>>10719671
>For legitimately good stuff there's the Ancillary books

>> No.10719832

tfw want to read something new but no idea what so I'm just downloading like 20 books again

I kinda miss going into bookshops and finding something new

>> No.10719861

>>10719120
I liked book 7 as much as the 6.

>> No.10720196
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>>10719750
Love me some good Dick.

>> No.10720238

>>10719832
>I kinda miss going into bookshops and finding something new
Here's an idea.
Go into a bookshop and find something new.
Guarantee it'll fix ya right up.

>> No.10720253

Anyone recommend the Witcher series?

>> No.10720260

>>10720253
It's breddy gud depending on the translation

>> No.10720262

>>10720238
I'm not the anon you're responding to, but I'm 150 miles from the nearest bookstore. And that bookstore is a Barnes and Noble. So I might as well just buy books off Amazon, because that B&N, at least, has a terrible selection.

There are also four used book stores that are nearer to me, but I've been to all of them and they are mostly filled with paperback romance novels. Not to say that there aren't gems, but it's really not worth my time.

>> No.10720268

>>10720253
theres different verisons some are better some are worse.
generally speaking though the games are much better than the books.
in the books everyone is just stupid for a lack of a better word.

>> No.10720283

>>10720268
Huh. I've never actually played the games but I've read through all of the Lord of the Rings series and accompanying texts and was looking for something similar to it that I could read.

>> No.10720300

>>10720253
I read them (the official English translations). It depends what you value in a good book, but I thought they were good. Not great, but good. The characters are pretty well written for the most part, but there were occasional page(s) long digressions into philosophy that I felt were fairly clumsy. I think philosophy in a novel should largely play out through character action, rather than as literal discussions between characters. Sapkowski did both. There were also some serious pacing issues in his early stuff, but I thought the books got better as they went.

>> No.10720304

>>10720268
>generally speaking though the games are much better than the books.
>in the books everyone is just stupid for a lack of a better word.
The opposite of this is true. The games characters motivations are a huge mess. Not a surprise, since it's a video game. But still.

>>10720283
They're not particularly similar to LOTR.

>> No.10720312

>>10720300
Interesting, the consensus is usually that the earlier books are better. Not saying you're wrong, just interested to see a different assessment.

>> No.10720316

>>10720238
Doesn't work anymore I at least knew of literally everything waterstones had in sff last time I was there

Works great for poetry and actual lit but popular sff can't surprise me anymore

>> No.10720323

>>10720304
>>10720300
Thanks I think I will pick up the boxed set on Amazon.

>> No.10720347

>>10720323
Make sure it actually has book 2 in it. The English publisher was weird about Sword of Destiny for awhile.

>> No.10720370

>>10720347
That's a good point. I will have to get the rest separately. Thanks

>> No.10720386

>>10718472
Can't go wrong with either author. I can definitely see Vance taking from CAS's ornate style.

>> No.10720389

>>10719027
Tekeshi Kovacs in altered carbon, dealing out real death to everyone at the Wei Clinic

>> No.10720393

>>10718867
Actually exists though. I didn't make it up.

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10720454

Are there any good Sci-fi books that involve a ship's crew travelling the galaxy and having adventures ? it seems like a simple and generic concept but i can't think of a single book that involves this

>>10717569

Might get bullied for this but i thought the Commonwealth Saga By Peter F Hamilton was a decent depiction of how Humanity might develop but i can't recall how far into the future it was.

>>10717788

The Gotrex and Felix are good books if you just want to read some fun fantasy about two bros adventuring.

>>10717975

>tfw i stopped 3/4 of the way through book 1 over a year ago and can't remember shit about the lore and find it too daunting to start again

>> No.10720601

>>10720454
the star trek novels

>> No.10720657

Speaking of space opera, how is the new Prefect novel by Reynolds? I have it on my Kindle but wew lads I have a metric fuckton of Dragonlance in the way.

>> No.10720707
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>>10719027
Probably my nigga Fingolfin storming Mordor and giving Morgoth a permanent wound before dying
>you will never be so mad that you literally GLOW with rage and everybody automatically knows to get the fuck out of your way

>> No.10720742

>>10717569

The Golden Age
Diaspora
Vacuum Diagrams
Last and First Men
The City and the Stars
The Night Land
The Culture series

>> No.10720749

>>10718040
You might either be trying to take Pratchett too seriously, or you might not like reading books that don't take themselves seriously.

>> No.10720755

>>10718296
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21331.jpg

>> No.10720789

>>10720749

I'd say this desu. You're not supposed to get immersed into his settings but instead laugh at the absurd logic of things like the Thieves guild having a government mandated quota on how much they can steal. Just don't take it seriously and have a laugh

>> No.10720797

How different is the Altered Carbon novel from the TV show that netflix made recently ? I enjoyed it but hadn't ever read the book

>> No.10720861

Best books about gestalt entities?

>> No.10720886

>>10720861
Book of the New Sun

>> No.10720888

>>10717339
Is the windup girl a good read?

>> No.10720971

>>10720797
Show kinda sucks imo and it writes out all of the punk aspects of cyberpunk

>> No.10720984

>>10720971

Yeah it wasn't perfect but i enjoyed the look of the show and found Poe to be decent comic relief. It fell apart in the later episodes though

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>>10717339
Is A Mountain Walked worth reading? Never heard of it before but it's billed as a Lovecraftian anthology.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27865639-a-mountain-walked

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018829F8E

>> No.10721063

>>10720797
they changed a major relation between the protagonist and the main villain.

>> No.10721083

>>10721006

Joshi's is supposed to be the biggest Lovecraft autist around so i'd imagine he's curated the stories so there's no absolute trash in them. But ive never read non-Lovecraft stuff set in the mythos

>> No.10721133

>>10720454
Joel Shepherd's Spiral Wars series. It's got a milSF framing but so far everything's been more adventure focused. It's perhaps better described as a adventure series where everybody also happens to be in the military.

>> No.10721203

>>10720984
In the book, the hotel is called the Hendrix, and while the AI is still a supporting character, it serves more as exploring the role and limits of AI in the universe rather than being a distinct ad humorous character.

>> No.10721769

>>10721063
Was it incest?

>> No.10721777
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10721777

This is the biggest pile of poo I have read in years, it’s a shame because I like the concept, wish it was written by someone who wasn’t a faggot.

>> No.10721780

>>10721769
I haven't watched the show yet but I heard that they made Kovacs and Reiliene into siblings there when they aren't in the actual book. Which is trash because there was really no reason to add complicated reasons for the antagonism besides she's a sadistic immortal bitch and he hates her for that.

>> No.10721826

>>10717975
Absolutely. If you're reading DG (2nd book) and you aren't interested, I'd move on. I understand it's a meme, but there's no series like it as far as I know.

>> No.10721838

>>10718136
Yes, it's unfortunate, I've read it twice and don't see it as that much of a hurdle, but I can understand it. Also, SE originally wrote GotM as a screenplay.

>> No.10721854

>>10721777

What was so bad about it ? it just seems generic from the title

>> No.10721905

>>10721777
What's the premise?

>> No.10721987

is reading more than one book at a time adviced or not? I kinda feel curious about a lot of stuff to read but then I worry i might not pay full attention to anything.

>> No.10722007

>>10721987
>adviced
kek

>> No.10722038

>>10721083
you mean he's edited out things that trigger him as a person of poo descent

"cthulhu mythos" writing is derivative trash

>> No.10722043

>>10722038

>you mean he's edited out things that trigger him as a person of poo descent

The opposite actually, he got mad when people at a big Lovecraft convention wanted to discuss Lovecraft's racism and refused to ever attend again

>> No.10722067

>>10721777
That's a shame, I liked the first one, been meaning to look at this one.

>> No.10722071

>>10720389
That was good, though I also liked "Are you a believer, motherfucker?"

>> No.10722098

>>10722043
>got mad when people at a big Lovecraft convention wanted to discuss Lovecraft's racism
Really? I could see that getting on some peoples nerves. Didn't some fans trow a fit over Orson Scott Card at some convention?

>> No.10722412

The incredible shrinking man

>> No.10722423

Philip K.D. Like kill death ratio. Pretty funny.

>> No.10722451
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10722451

Are books two and three of Southern Reach worthwhile? Hearing some mixed reactions

>> No.10722536
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>He paused a moment to quietly fart, then continued

>> No.10722557

>>10722038
>let me just make stuff up

>> No.10722570

>>10717388
Jack Vance has

>> No.10722571

>>10717388
Why are you so scared of Sanderson? We're living in the times of the greatest fantasy author, and still /lit/ tries to pretend he doesn't exist. Do you just not like seeing your heroes surpassed? It's honestly pathetic at this point

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>>10718677

>> No.10722583

>>10722571
top meme

>> No.10722584

Oathbringer is so boring

>> No.10722589

>>10722584

more like oathboringer amirite

>> No.10722595
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>“Where do you come from?"
>"From the planet of a distant sun, called Earth."
>"What for?"
>"I was tired of vulgarity.”

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>Nyx sold her womb somewhere between Punjai and Faleen, on the edge of the desert.

>Drunk, but no longer bleeding, she pushed into a smoky cantina just after dark and ordered a pinch of morphine and a whiskey chaser. She bet all of her money on a boxer named Jaks, and lost it two rounds later when Jaks hit the floor like an antique harem girl.

>Nyx lost every coin, a wad of opium, and the wine she’d gotten from the butchers as a bonus for her womb. But she did get Jaks into bed and – loser or not – in the desert after dark that was something.

>“What are you after?” Jaks murmured in her good ear.

>They lay tangled in the sheets like old lovers: a losing boxer with a poor right hook and a tendency to drop her left, and a wombless hunter bereft of money, weapons, and most of her clothing.

>“I’m looking for my sister,” Nyx said. It was partly the truth. She was looking for something else too, something worth a lot more, and Jaks was going to help her get it.

>The midnight call to prayer rolled out over the desert. It started somewhere out in Faleen and moved in a slow wave from mosque muezzin to village mullah to town crier, certain as a swarm of locusts, ubiquitous as the name of God.

>“Don’t tell anyone,” Nyx said, “what I’m about to tell you.”

>> No.10722696

>>10722584
i blame the editor, if he would cut out half of the book it would be better

>> No.10722746

>>10722629
lesbian muslims?

>> No.10722840

>>10722536
at least he's realistic

>> No.10722934
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10722934

This book is making me feel literally retarded. Diagrams desperately needed for all this shit about nth-dimensional topologies and wormholes.

>> No.10723029

>>10719741
>>10719710
There was a thread a few years back with your exact question, it had some great recommends.
Check thw archive. I got Fevre Dream from it, and a few others.

>> No.10723096

>>10720749
Because deep down you know that every author with Terry in their name is shit, and your subconscious is trying to save you from pain.

>> No.10723106

>>10721777
>let me post the exact same post someone made again

>> No.10723156

>>10722571
Sanderson is fucking awful. I'm nearing the end of The Final Empire, and I'm beyond giving a shit about any of these characters. So much of this book is just worldbuilding and exposition. I get that this is important in a fantasy world since aspects of it are entirely different from our universe and need to be explained, but during all of this, barely anything actually happens. Most of the time, whenever something happens to progress the plot, it's in the background, and we just hear about it. There was finally some action happening in a part I just got through, and it was bookended with yet even more endless worldbuilding and exposition. I plan on finishing this piece of shit today and never looking back. I will never touch another Sanderson work again. I wanted to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but everything /sffg/ says about the guy is true. He is a hack.

>> No.10723321

Is James Islington meme? I started The Shadow of What was Lost on a whim and the pacing feels so disjointed that it's really ruining it.

Is it just me?

>> No.10723437

SIX DUTCHIES AIN'T FREE. THE COASTS GOTTA BE LITTERD IN THE BLOOD OF RAIDERS

>> No.10723449

>>10723437
This have potential. Regal aint my king in waiting etc.

Also, the Raiders did nothing wrong.

>> No.10723504

>>10723449
The raiders did everything wrong

>> No.10723525

>>10723321
I'm liking the series so far (2 books in), it's pretty derivative of other fantasy like wheel of time but that doesn't bother me much.

>> No.10723565

>>10723321
>>10723525
I gave up immediately when the cute girl got hurt

>> No.10723587

>>10723156
Everyone suggests you start with the emperor's soul, or warbreaker. It's your fault for starting with mistborn.

>> No.10723597

>>10723156
>muh plot
Wow, there’s the deep and insightful criticism that keeps bringing me back to /lit/. How will Sanderson ever recover from this?

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10723602

Iron Gold was shit. Fuck pierce

>> No.10723603

>>10719861
Hell yeah. Hyped to finish this thing

>> No.10723605

How's To Kill a God?

>> No.10723607

>>10723156
Stormlight is fun desu

>> No.10723630

>>10722934
Based gender-fluid sci fi (the best sci fi)

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>ywn go down with all hands on the HMS Thunder Child
Literally why live

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10723691

What went wrong?

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>>10723602
>taking one for the team
thanks bruh

>> No.10723733

>>10723587
>>10723607
Maybe I'll give those a try later. Much later. But if they start stinking like TFE, I'm dropping them like a rock.

>>10723597
What, are you asking for an in-depth review? There a lots of problems with TFE, but overall I'm just struck by how boring it is.

To go over another problem, the magic system. At first I thought /sffg/ was just overreacting when they complained about the magic in Mistborn, but now I totally understand the complaints. Despite it feeling like Sanderson put a lot of effort into his magic system, it feels poorly thought out. The whole idea of making a magic system that has concrete rules so it can't be used as a plot device is admirable, but what really strikes me is how he implements it. He tries to add a bit of realism to the magic system by trying to make it more of a science, going over the physics of how steel-pushing and iron-pulling work, and how it's powered by metals rather than fantasy materials like mana, and even explaining exactly what kind of alloy mixture the magic system uses. But the problem I have with this is that as soon as you start going for a bit of realism, what's stopping you from going all the way? The book says you can pull or push metals only, you can't just throw them around any way you want, because that's just ridiculous. But why? It's magic. There's no explanation as to how any of this stuff works in the first place. One thing that immediately struck me about pushing/pulling was that they never go over the magnetic properties of the metals themselves, despite this stuff basically working from the principles of magnetism. Is it magnetism or isn't it? Is it magical or isn't it? The magic system uses metals rather than stuff like mana, but that gets fucked too because they use magical metal anyway. So why not say it's mana? Why bother with the metal stuff then if you're just going to make something up anyway? It's not like what the metals do is related to their physical properties anyway.

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>>10723691
>What went RIGHT?
FTFY.

>> No.10723984

>>10723668
>tfwiktf
Got goosebumps when I read that chapter.

>> No.10723985

>>10723321
Listen to the audiobook, it does a better job of making you feel more engaged in the story IMO.

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10724019

>read sci-fi set thousands of years into the future
>science and society is highly advanced
>they still use imperial units

>> No.10724056

>>10724019
As they should.

>> No.10724083

>>10724019
And the characters still die of cancer

>> No.10724107

>>10718136
The whole "GotM is bad" myth was started by apologists who were trying to convince people to read Malazan when they complained about not liking the first book. There's nothing really wrong with GotM, it's not ultimately that different from the rest of the series and pretending like it's not representative of Malazan Book of the Fallen's style is just disingenuous.

Malazan fans need to accept that not everybody is gonna like their series. Lying about it isn't going to somehow make them overlook the aspects of the series they don't enjoy. People have different taste and different interests.

>> No.10724122

>>10718310
I read all those because I enjoyed reading them. I don't keep reading a series if I'm not enjoying myself. I've dropped plenty of books halfway without finishing them. True, sometimes it takes multiple stabs at a book before I can find something to like about it, but I don't often give a book a second chance after it's disappointed me once.

>> No.10724147

>>10724019
The earth will either die or we will go extinct before we can achieve anything. That fag Elon Musk is wasting his time.

>> No.10724167

>>10724147
This is why the Luna books are the best scifi of late

Earth is fucked and we've made it as far as settling the moon which is also kinda fucked but have no hope of going further

>> No.10724245

>>10724107
I dropped the series early in Memories of Ice.

Actually felt like GotM was the best of the 2 and a bit I've read.
Felt more like an adventure in a new world and pretty down to Earth despite some of the battles and beings while Deadhouse Gates felt like epic mercenaries and heroes being epic heroes.
Or maybe it was just the novelty and it wore off in the second book.
I don't know representative DG and MoI are for the rest of the series but I quickly lost interest on them.

>> No.10724292

Tate McGillis escapes to a secluded mountain cabin with his girlfriend, Lauren, for a weekend away. His romantic plans are destroyed, however, when he encounters an evil the likes of which he never imagined.

It’s not Lauren’s husband; he had no idea she left. It's not the dark, sinister forest that is constantly changing around them. It's not the undead crawling out of the lake with a taste for human flesh. It's not even the mutated spirit of a serial killer tormenting Tate for its own demonic pleasure.

A woman who will only identify herself as Mary Sue Standin is stalking Tate without mercy, and her powers are unrivaled. She can break his bones with a thought. Without guilt or hesitation, she can rip everyone and everything he loves from the very fabric of reality. She can teleport him at will, leaving Tate to question the very nature of his existence.

Because Mary Sue is the writer of his story, and Tate's tale is not a pleasant one.

>> No.10724369

>>10724292
>Tate McGillis
fake mcname

>> No.10724383

>>10724147
Cool story bro

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10724413

>>10718677

>> No.10724506

>>10724245
That's fair. The thing about Malazan that is hard to get at the outset is the sheer scope of the story. I've said this a lot before, but reading the series is like putting together a huge jigsaw puzzle without any idea of what it's supposed to look like. It takes a lot of reading before major sections of it start to make a coherent image, and it's not til you're most of the way done that you see what the whole picture really is.

It's immensely satisfying when reading Malazan for the first time and you manage to resolve a major aspect of the setting and plot that had been mysterious to you for ages. But getting to that point takes like 4 books and sustained curiosity in the setting. For me, the lure of the world building is what kept me invested, and eventually I just came to like the style and adapt to how new characters could just drop into the series without warning and become part of my experience.

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>>10718677
>>10722578
>>10724413

>> No.10724741

why does noone mention Peter F hamilton in these threads? Does lit hate him or something?

>> No.10724748

>>10723692
.... Thanks anon. Now i have to go read incase...

>> No.10724755

>>10722451
Book two is literally just office politics with Area X in the background. The old assistant director dislikes the new director and they bicker over the most mundane topics as if there isn’t some cosmic threat looking miles away

>> No.10724762

>>10724107
Replace Malazan with botns, and i will agree with you.

>> No.10724796

>>10722043

That always makes me laugh. Lovecraft was a racist and good portion of his stories stem from his fears of basically anybody who wasn't a WASP. The whole "no you need to separate the artist from his works" is laughable revisionism that ignores this and attempts to whitewash him and make him palatable to a modern audience that's more familiar with Derlith/Brian Lumley style Mythos works that don't end with "and the creeping terror was... a mulatto Irishman! OOGABOOGABOOGA!"

>>10724741
I've never read anything by him. Sell me on his stuff.

>> No.10724817

>>10724083
Cancer is damn near unbeatable, though - you can slow it down, kill it, isolate it, but it's basically a replicator failure in your cells turning your body into grey goo. Cancer is a perpetual danger to any kind of self-renewing repair system.

>> No.10724988

>>10724413
>spoilers on the cover

>> No.10725061

>>10724741
He's ok but unremarkable. MorningLightMountain did nothing wrong

>> No.10725070

>>10724817
Yeah this. For any foreseeable future we'll never eliminate cancer, just mitigate it and end up with different kinds that come later.

>> No.10725157

OK, just finished The Final Empire. You guys were right, a bunch of shit happens all at once near the end. I was actually pleased with the twist about the Lord Ruler (though I definitely saw the twist with Marsh coming).

Mediocre writing, barely anything gets a description beyond what you'd find on a Wiki besides the dumb magic system and inane fight scenes.

The plot is absolutely glacial in its pacing until basically the end. Things that could be interesting usually aren't paid attention to. Instead we learn about Vin trying to get gossip at parties. Fun.

The characters were either flat and uninteresting, or just outright annoying. Vin is a complete idiot, and the only reason she's able to do anything is plot convenience.

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>doing somersaults with a sword makes you a good warrior
Dear god, why am I still reading this.

>> No.10725428

>>10721987
I’m reading five books right now, and doing just fine, although only one is fiction.

>> No.10725470

>>10721987
It's fine as long as the books are sufficiently different from one another.

>> No.10725611

Just bought Dune and Starship Troopers today, which should I read first?

>> No.10725623

>>10725611
Start with Starship Troopers as it is short and not as good as Dune.

>> No.10725635

>>10725611
>Starship Troopers
I hated that book. It was basically "Let me tell you why military dictatorships are awesome!" I can't remember, did they even fight the bugs in that book?

>> No.10725657

>>10725635
There are two or three action sequences IIRC, but yeah the book is mainly a political treatise.

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>> No.10725755

>>10725731
Interesting cover what's it about

>> No.10725780

>>10725635
It's not even a military dictatorship though. (Sure you didn't watch the movie?)
But yeah, is basically political stuff, bit of coming of age, bit of Heinleinean tech talk.

>> No.10725793

>>10723691
Nice try, Scalzi.

>> No.10725816

>>10725731
Cover of first book is better desu. I've yet to read it however.

>> No.10725926

>>10725635
It felt more like the author was processing his experiences of being in the military than any kind of political propaganda. Also Heinlein is just playing devil's advocate in this. Other books of his do the same thing with anarcho capitalism and anarcho communism.

The movie did what you described way more clearly, though in a satirical over the top fashion that many people seem to miss and take at face value.

The book on the other hand isn't satirical at all. But I also wouldn't call the movie an adaption of the book, I would call it "inspired by the book" at best.

>> No.10726048

>>10725657
I did like the countdown grenade though.

>>10725780
>>10725926
To be fair, it's been quite some time since I read it, so I could be misremembering. Never seen the movie though, so no confusion there. But I just couldn't believe how little actual action there was. It was mostly Heinlein telling us how awesome being in the military is, and how shit stuff from his time was.

>> No.10726063

>>10725755
Broadly a pseudo-Roman empire takes over/colonizes a Polynesian island when the main character is a child. She becomes the patron of a wealthy merchant, gets educated as a Roman, and sent off to be a government functionary in a unruly province. Lots of plotting and intrigue.

I don't think there's anything out about the sequel's plot yet, it'd probably spoil the first one anyways.

>> No.10726087

>>10726048
It’s just invidualism versus duty to broader society taken to the extreme

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Thoughts on Wolfe's The Sorcerer's House?

It was much better than I was expecting. Super readable.

>> No.10726498

>>10725731
is this the UK edition or something? looks like a sci-fi book.

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How have I not heard about this yet?

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So I bought the whole Book of the New Sun series... its ok so far.. it has some strange concepts and just seems random as fuck... dueling with a deadly flower and throwing the leaves at each other? lol ok.. anyways.. What makes this book series so highly rated on /lit/? Its definitely different so far.

>> No.10726569

>>10718315
no. look up actual plane names.

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>>10718379
>tfw i read it and dont even know who apu punchau is
>i dont know who father inire is either

>> No.10726642

>>10726544
we rate it highly because

>it's so strange and different
>wolfe's prose is great
>vivid imagery and moments that stay with you
>stories within stories, very layered and complex

Gene Wolfe's own definition of good literature is if a well-educated reader, after finishing the novel for the first time, gains something from the re-read. He achieves this most of all with BotNS.

The typical rule of thumb is that you'll understand ~40% of everything that happens in the Book of the New Sun on your first read. That's how it was with me, and with most people I've discussed it with.

The second time I read Book of the New Sun was actually better than the first, because things started to click into place, it was awesome. I've never experienced anything that pronounced with another book.

The most impressive part is that Wolfe leaves all the answers in plain sight, nothing's ever hidden from the reader, Wolfe just "shows" instead of "telling".

I guess another reason /lit/ likes BotNS is because of all the references to the classics - Gene Wolfe started with the Greeks - and past great authors like Borges.

>> No.10726647

>>10726642
Apologies for the reddit spacing, I don't use reddit I swear

>> No.10726701

>>10725926
>Other books of his do the same thing with anarcho capitalism and anarcho communism
Which books are those?

>> No.10726726

>>10726642

Thank you for the well thought out response.. I now realize that my post possibly implied that I didn't like it.. the opposite is true.. its just strange compared to any other fantasy book universe I have read so far.

>> No.10726770

>>10717339
Are Frank Herbert's son's continuations of Dune worth reading? I've heard bad things.

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What is your opinion about this guy and his work?

>> No.10726845

>>10726804
he's a lazy ass

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>>10726647
>actually worrying about reddit spacing

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I just read Manifold: Time. What did I think of it and why was I left wanting? Should I go on and read the other two? It dragged a bit desu ~

>> No.10727308

>>10727112
Read Manifold Space for the good shit.

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Anyone know any fantasy about the adventures of sort of low ranking knight?

Something like the Asoiaf spin-offs

>> No.10727373

>>10727335
>Anyone know any fantasy about the adventures of sort of low ranking knight?
You're gonna love the Hedge Knight by George R.-

>Something like the Asoiaf spin-offs
Shit that's literally the only one I know about. Sorry. I guess the Witcher sort of kind of almost counts, in a way?

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>>10727308
Don't toy with my emotions, anon. I was just going to read Annihilation instead before the stupid movie comes out, but the inner completionist is telling me to finish Baxter.

>> No.10727488

>>10727335
It's not fantasy, but The Ill-Made Knight by Christian Cameron is right up your alley.

>> No.10727578

>>10727488
>Christian Cameron
Dropped

>> No.10727738

Do magical realism novels usually have villains?

>> No.10727963

>>10727578
that sounds like a good book though. whats wrong with christian cameron?

>> No.10728103

>>10727963
He has big mummy issues, I’ve read 3 of his series (though I’ve dropped them all) and in every one of the the protagonist has a mother that neglects/abuses him, which is usually coupled with a romantic interest that humiliates and dominates him. So I’ve stopped reading his stuff because that’s really fucking gay and a little sad. He does good battles though .

>> No.10728266

>>10726770
>Are Frank Herbert's son's continuations of Dune worth reading?
No

>> No.10728279

>>10726726
No I didn't get that impression don't worry. I replied because your view of it at this point was much like my own, on my first read through. I was probably even less impressed than you at first - I think it was only the prose/imagery that kept me reading. Because of the similarity I wanted to explain how it grew on me.

>> No.10728460

>>10726701
The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress explores ancap and small government libertarian ideas.

Stranger in a Strange Land explores some anarcho communist ideas.

>> No.10728594

Someone commented on the Kingkiller series. Is this any good? They have a 10th anniversary hardcover of the Name of the Wind in stock near me.

>> No.10728598

>>10728594
First book is an okayish power fantasy with wizard school and interesting magic. Then the author runs out of ideas and the following two books are aimless rubbish for the most part.

>> No.10728628

>>10724506
No, the prose is mostly mediocre and the bulk of the characters are uninteresting.

World building is an escapist meme

>> No.10728659

>>10728628
Dialogue is also very weak

>> No.10728681

Gunslingers + fantasy that isn't The Dark Tower? And I do specifically mean a gunslinger archetype(s) and not just fantasy with guns.

>> No.10728713

>>10728594
>10th anniversary hardcover
i would consider this but isnt it like 50 dollars? i dont see how this is justified when the 20 dollar and 10 dollar version of the same thing is sitting right next to it. is it like, a collector's thing?

>> No.10728760

>>10728594
>10th anniversary hardcover
The third book in the trilogy still hasn't come out.

>> No.10728762

>>10728594
First book is readable, second it bad and there's a 10th anniversary edition of the first book before the release of the third. You do the math.

>> No.10728786

>>10728681
Silver on the road

>> No.10728884

>>10728681
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31133128-noose-jumpers

heard good things about this, havent read it though.

>> No.10729171

>>10726701
The Disposessed by Ursula le Guin explores the conflicts between a capitalist planet and it's anarcho-communist former moon colony.
Pretty good.

>> No.10729260

>>10726581
fool
apu panchau is what the rock-people in the valley from Urth called Sev, hence the monument to him in the end of Sword of the Lictor
father inire is like the merlin to the old autarch, who serves sev once he takes over

>> No.10729451

What's the best LOTR edition?

>> No.10729520
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10729520

>>10729451
>tfw you have the movie-cover paperback version

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>>10729451
i have the 7-volume, hardback 'Millennium Edition'
it's really nice.
paid £50 for it in 2000. i imagine it's worth a bit more now

>> No.10729891

>>10729866
>6 "books" split in 7 books
gets the old 'tism going
which book is split?

>> No.10729915

>>10729891
book 7 is the appendices and index

>> No.10729934

>>10729891
Now imagine six books with these on the cover:
>T
>O
>L
>K
>I
>EN

>> No.10730027

>>10729866
>not keeping then in TOLKEIN order

>> No.10730101

>>10730027
>not ripping out the pages of L-K and E-I, rearranging them and rebinding accordinlgly

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>>10717339
What do you think of Altered Carbon? I'm currently watching the tvshow and it's pretty fun. I was thinking of checking out the books, are they any good?

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>>10729451
got all these three, a little battered but still suave as hell

>> No.10730324

>>10730189
I read Altered Carbon ten years back and it was fun enough, very much like reading a Hollywood action plotbuster.

>> No.10730332

>>10730324
>plotbuster
A Jungian slip, I guess

>> No.10730550

>>10717788

It's one of my fav Warhammer series as well, if you can find any PDFs of Inferno magazine Malus Darkblade was originally a comic serial which is pretty cool as well, iirc several of the novels follow and expand on the comic narrative

>> No.10730599

>>10729260

So is it fair to assume that anyone and everyone who is described as looking vaguely similar to Severian actually is Severian?
[Spoiler]is baldanders Severian?[/spoiler]

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>>10730599
>Fucked up spoilers

My brainlet status is confirmed

>> No.10730618

>>10730612
thats what u get for being an uptight capitalization fag, simplify ur life and open ur mind to the lowercase lifestyle

>> No.10730647

>>10730612
Baldanders is not Severian.

Click ctrl + s to get working spoiler tags.

>> No.10730661

>>10730618
>using a comma
free yourself anon

>> No.10730692

>>10730661
who are you quoting?

>> No.10730699

>>10730692
>guy from reddit doesn't get greentext

bruh

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>>10730692
man you are so dumb
you are really dumb

>> No.10730815

>>10729866
Why does the box not fit properly?

>> No.10730822

>>10730815
as for the one in the pic (not mine), i can't say
mine fit in the box just fine

>> No.10730824

Finishing Hyperion, are it’s sequels worth it?

>> No.10730859

>>10730824
You should read Fall of Hyperion, as it's really all one book.
Haven't read Endymion though.

>> No.10730886

>>10730824
Fall is great after that your mileage may vary

>> No.10731142

litrpg a shit
fuck anime

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>>10729866
Depends if you want multi-volume or a big thick tome.
I have pic related and it's very nice. Die-cut box with the Eye in red and black on heather-grey cover boards. Have some fold-out maps as well, and the paper is surprisingly thick for how big the book is.

>> No.10731474

>>10730824
Read Fall. From what I've heard, avoid them like the plague.

>> No.10731505

>>10731313
>fold-out maps
Nice. My library had a copy with those. Copied each section on a copy machine and taped them all together. Still have it somewhere.

>> No.10731509

>>10731142
>litrpg a shit
Word.

>fuck anime
Fuck you.

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>>10729451
i got this. its nice but they started to wear pretty quickly after just one read.

>> No.10731555

>>10729451
Well, that depends on what you like.

>> No.10731559

>>10726804
That you should stop baiting.

>> No.10731571

>>10731509
litrpg is anime in novel form

>> No.10731593

>>10731571
So? Something can be good in one form and bad in another.

>> No.10731607

>>10731593
anime is bad in both.
if anime is good, so is litrpg. You can't have it both ways.

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>>10731607

>> No.10731689

>>10731571
What is Sanderson then?

>> No.10731707

>>10731689
A western anime rpg. He did make games from his novels. Just like rothfuss

>> No.10731710

Is this thread the equivalent of the Dr Who threads in /tv/?

>> No.10731713

>>10731710
I don't know, describe the Dr Who threads in /tv/.

>> No.10731745

>>10731689
Apart from the world’s most innovative worldbuilder and gripping storyteller? I don’t really think you should be asking what Sanderson is, you should be asking why more authors aren’t yet taking cues from Sanderson

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10731746

Name a better fantasy author. I'll wait.

>> No.10731757

>>10731746
>male
>good author
lel

>> No.10731769

>>10731757
I'll male you an angrily worded letter if you don't apologise within 7 days.

>> No.10731780

New thread: >>10731773

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10731809

fuckin hell I finished the Prince of Nothing trilogy last night. The first book was a MAJOR slog but by the end the characters, settings and themes really grew on me. Looking forward to the Aspect-Emperor trilogy. Questions/discussion follows:

What's Bakker getting at with these books? I know he's a big /lit/tard, having ABD'd in analytic philosophy or somethin.
Is the big theme the fact that we (humans/man) are not free but instead driven by our desires/genes/customs/the atoms that make us up? Am I supposed to read this book as materialistic (and probably nihilistic)?

Obviously Kellhus is privy to all this knowledge, so I'm not sure what he represents. Seems like he's the guy that DID finish his dissertation in philosophy and has all the answers. Cnair is "woke". The Consult/Inchoroi are just another extension of humanity (except they are REALLY driven by sex..hints to Freud?)

What did you guys get out of it? How does the Aspect-Emperor series of books compare?

>> No.10731828

>>10731769
I'd love to be penpals with you<3

>> No.10731861

>>10731571
It is one kind of anime in novel form

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>>10731710
>Is this thread the equivalent of the Dr Who threads in /tv/?

For those of you who don't frequent /tv/, this is the most insulting thing anyone has ever said about /sffg/ in all our illustrious history as the shining city on the hill sitting proud above the festering swamps of /outerlit/

>> No.10732084

>>10731746
Sell us on GGGay

>> No.10733083

>>10728681
Sandermemes second mistborn series is wild west esque.

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>>10728628
What do you read with good prose and interesting characters?

No Wolfe.

>> No.10733289

>>10726804
Insanely overrated

>> No.10733676

>>10728713
Paperback here is 20AUD whereas the hardcover 10th is 30AUD