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[Anonymous No.11117803]

The Minotaur of Milwaukee has spoken, this is the official phil starter pack:
>1. Plato, The Last Days of Socrates – this includes four dialogues: the Euthyphro, the Apology, the Crito, and the Phaedo
>2. Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics
>3. Epictetus, Discourses, Fragments, Handbook
>4. Augustine of Hippo, Confessions
>5. Boethius, Consolation of Philosophy
>6. Anselm of Canterbury, Three Philosophical Dialogues – this includes On Truth, On Freedom of Choice, and On The Fall of the Devil
>7. Thomas Aquinas, Selected Writings – includes a wide selection of Thomas’ works
>8. Rene Descartes, Meditations on First Philosophy (with the objections and replies)
>9. Mary Wollstonecraft, Vindication of the Rights of Women
>10. Friedrich Nietzsche, The Genealogy of Morals

http://www.commonsenseethics.com/blog/the-10-best-philosophy-books-for-beginners

[Anonymous No.11117833]

>>11117803
I feel 9 might gain the ire of my fellow Aristophanean frogmen. I've only got 2 and 8, gulp!

[Anonymous No.11117837]

>>11117803
>(with the objections and replies)
Is there any good "standalone" editions of this? I already got the Meditations.

[Anonymous No.11117841]

>>11117837
Get into Hackett, one of two philosophy publishers worth being a fanboy of.

ISBN: 0872207986

[Anonymous No.11117845]

>old shit

[Anonymous No.11117848]

>>11117845
>Newer is better

[Anonymous No.11117854]

>>11117845
This seems like a lot of moral philosophy, so that's why there's much old shit.

Anyway, anyone interested in knowledge needs to read Descartes, Hume and Kant - so I guess that's why there's a beginning there in Meditations, at least.

[Anonymous No.11117900]

>>11117803
>Epictetus
>Augustine
>Wollstonecraft

[Anonymous No.11117910]

>>11117803
>11. Gregory B. Sadler, Half Hour Hegel: The Complete Phenomenology of Spirit

[Anonymous No.11118051]

>>11117841
What is the other one?

[Anonymous No.11118085]

>>11117803
>>9. Mary Wollstonecraft, Vindication of the Rights of Women

Only American and/or Briton would suggest this shit

Shocked that he didn't cram in that bitch that got burned as well

[Anonymous No.11118117]

>>11118051
not him but possibly loeb?

[Anonymous No.11118215]

>>11117803
Fuck that ten. It won’t get you anywhere.
>1. Plato: Complete Works
>2. Plotinus: The Enneads
>3. Philo: Complete Works
>4. Proclus: Comm. Timaeus
>5. Proclus: Theology of Plato
>6. Iamblichus: On the Mysteries
>7. Damascius: On Plato’s Phaedo
>8. Iamblichus: De Anima
>9. Olympiodorus: On Plato’s Phaedo
>10. Porphyry: Works
>11. Proclus: On the Alcibiades
>12. Nicomachus: Theoretic Arithmetic
>13. Nicomachus: Manual of Harmonics
>14. Proclus: Comm. Euclid
>15. Macrobius: Comm. Dream of Scipio
>16. Emperor Julian: Complete Works
>17. Numenius: Complete Works
>18. Damascius: Problems and Solutions
>19. Iamblichus: Comm. Plato
>20. Anonymous: Theology of Arithmetic
>21. Proclus: Comm. Parmenides
>22. Proclus: Comm. Cratylus
>23. Calcidius: On Timaeus
>24. Olympiodorus: Comm. Alcibiades
>25. Anonymous: Prologomena to Philosophy
>26. Alcinous: The Handbook of Platonism
>27. Plutarch: Isis and Osiris
>28. Macrobius: Saturnalia
>29. Boethius: Consolation of Philosophy
>30. Ficino: Platonic Commentaries

[Anonymous No.11118235]

>>11118215
>Neoplatonism
Lmao

[Anonymous No.11118296]

>>11118117
Yeah, I was thinking of Loeb.

Obviously most Uni Presses are great too, but they print good shit in every field.

[Anonymous No.11118310]

>>11118215
>Fuck that top 10
>heres a top 30
>I think im helpful

[Anonymous No.11118384]

>>11117910

[Anonymous No.11118447]

>>11117848
literally yes
it's called the evolution of thought you psued, ancient people only reasoned the way they did because they didn't know what we know due to science. thus they are basically a big waste of time

[Anonymous No.11118511]

>>11118447
I’m not not going to take this bait. Fuck you. Why do you think the Christians made it their top priority to burn all the Platonism they could find and gangrape platonists for so many hundreds of years? Their knowledge was so much more valuable than ours.

[Anonymous No.11118515]

>>11117803
>no Spinoza,literally the perfect thinker

kys

[Anonymous No.11118520]

>>11118515
>Oy vey this poster is such a good goy!

[Anonymous No.11118529]

>>11118215
Where do you go after this? Renaissance hermeticism? Guenon?

[Anonymous No.11118549]

>>11118384
>Someone bangs at the door
>le minotaure continues to read nonetheless
>A red axe crashed through
>"HERE HE IS. I FOUND HIM," yells a fireman to the others through the hole in the door.
>A cigarette-wielding detective swears, placing his arm through the gap and turning the door knob.
>"We've been looking for you for five (5) days, Gregory PhD. Damn, you know how many manhours I put into this mansearch?"
>An emphatic woman cries out: "Where have you been, Greg?"
>His eyes have not moved from the page, he reads til the last word.
>Then, he peels his eyes away from the book he's spent 121 hours looking at.
>He folds the book closed, and holds it aloft. He is done with the preface.

[Anonymous No.11118562]

>>11118515

As a list for introductory readers, would it not stand to reason Spinoza is something of a "next step"? Not to say that's what was thought. I just hardly see it as conclusive that he necessarily be included. Not really arguing against his inclusion either, though.

[Anonymous No.11118569]

>>11118515
>wasting time on Spinoza when Leibniz exists
never gonna make it

[Anonymous No.11118574]

>>11118447
Wew

[Anonymous No.11118578]

>>11118447
This anon is not wrong

[Anonymous No.11118592]

Based Sadler. Although, is this a new list? I thought Republic was on his top 10?

[Anonymous No.11118594]

join philosophy discord

https://discord.gg/u3QGV7S

[Anonymous No.11118602]

>>11117803
Collab when?

[Anonymous No.11118609]

>>11118215
>neoplatonism

[Anonymous No.11118638]

>>11118529
You certainly might want to. I think I’m going to keep re-reading the books in this list and relevant scholarship until I die or get spiritual-equivalent-of-beamed-up. I think some of the later writers miss certain emphases and they didn’t have access to many of those thirty works, so I don’t know how reliable they are.

[Anonymous No.11118724]

>>11118602
These hack frauds ain’t never read no book unless it was going to be turned into a movie, or movie related in some way.

[Anonymous No.11118808]

>>11117803
>The Minotaur of Milwaukee
Is that an axe murder or something?

[Anonymous No.11118852]

>>11117803
>Anselm
Curious as to why? I’ve never actually read him but everything I’ve seen from him seems like nonsense that was completely refuted by people after him.

[Anonymous No.11119921]

>>11118549
great green text.

[Anonymous No.11119938]

>>11117803
>Mary Wollstonecraft

[Anonymous No.11119948]

>>11118529
>Guenon?

Yes, insofar as he prepares you for understanding advaita vedanta, which deals with many of the same ideas and concepts as neoplatonism (but far more accurately and clearly IMO). After Guenon you read the primary Advaita commentaries and texts.

[Anonymous No.11119967]

>>11119921
Wow thanks, I thought no one liked it. Have my reddit leprechaun gold.

[Anonymous No.11119983]

>>11118215
retard

[Anonymous No.11120339]

>>11118447
Can anyone prove this wrong? Why would I bother with the bible when it was written by Bedouin shepherders

[Anonymous No.11120399]

>>11117803
Damn I have a degree in philosophy and I've only read 1, 2, 8, 9 & 10. Thanx college :^)

[Anonymous No.11120448]

>>11120399
Oy vey goyim, you don't really want to read those stupid outdated Christians, do you...?

[Anonymous No.11120468]

>>11117803
>www.commonsenseethics.com
isn't common sense the most plebish of things? nice list otherwise