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/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General Anonymous Sun May 13 19:15:05 2018 No.11148629 [Reply] [Original]

The Hand Edition.
>what is your most important appendage when reading sff?
>what are you currently reading?
>what do you do with your hands while reading?

FANTASY
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SCIENCE FICTION
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
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>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 19:16:48 2018 No.11148635 name one (2) books where the antagonist wins the MC bowl

Anonymous Sun May 13 19:19:04 2018 No.11148649
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If you read in English, make sure your version is the 2011 translation. Our guy Stanislaw was apparently not a fan of the older translations.

Download: https://share.soupwhale.com/bibliotik/files/Solaris%20-%20Stanislaw%20Lem/

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 19:23:11 2018 No.11148663 >>11148649 >apologies for the lack of gri Isn't there gri in this novel though?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 19:27:35 2018 No.11148675 sanderfag a hack

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 19:28:09 2018 No.11148677 >>11148663 I don't know yet, I'll update the image once I've read it or if someone can confirm.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 19:54:30 2018 No.11148796 How are the Altered Carbon books, I liked the show a bit? Also do you listen to themed music for your books? Example ambientwave for cyberpunk, calm folk music for a slice of life, upbeat folk music during war scenes?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 20:18:51 2018 No.11148868 >>11148796 Unless the audiobook has music (graphic audio) I don't listen to music while I listen to my books. Altered Carbon was okay. You could read the first one as a standalone if you want to test the series.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 20:27:23 2018 No.11148899 >>11148868 I remember listening to some war of the worlds one as a kid and there was a ton of sound effects and music and shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 20:41:23 2018 No.11148947 >>11148649 Just read the first chapter. She's a good one

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 21:36:42 2018 No.11149117 >>11147000 It's good stuff

Anonymous Sun May 13 21:51:22 2018 No.11149167
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>>11147000
It's one of those series that's fun to start with but you'll probably lose interest in over time.

The cool thing is that you won't resent it for falling away, but still appreciate the smiles and sensible chuckles the earlier volumes brought you. The series offers a modest payoff on a minuscule investment.

So pick it up and put it down when it bores you. Nothing to lose here.

Anonymous Sun May 13 22:28:26 2018 No.11149298

I unironically enjoy young adult, coming of age fantasy. There's something about a young boy growing up, making friends, going on adventures, fighting bad guys with swords and magic that's just fun and doesn't get old for me.

I've never anything by sanderson, lawrwnce, rothfuss, grrm or the classics that get posted here. I pretty much read no name authors I find on amazon's recommendations. I'm wondering what exactly makes the fantasy written by the more popular authors better? Are they just more mature or do they try and subvert the typical fantasy tropes (which I also enjoy)?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 22:31:20 2018 No.11149308 I can't find the in universe chronological way to read Tolkien, someone help. I know Silmarillion is first but what about next?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 22:38:06 2018 No.11149335 >>11149308 Holy shit you’re the dumbest person alive

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 22:41:50 2018 No.11149346 >>11149308 Hobit - Rings - Silmarillion iirc

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 22:43:26 2018 No.11149349 >>11149308 first is lord of the amulets then you have the hobbiters

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 22:43:43 2018 No.11149350 >>11149335 It's the creation tale, so why not it be first? >>11149346 I don't want release order, if I wanted that I'd just go to a bibliography

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 22:46:00 2018 No.11149357 File: 70 KB, 640x481, 58BF3D02-ED57-4514-A3AD-2C870BF099AC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is gunpowder fantasy a fad/meme genre or is there hope for it? Could it have staying power?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 22:59:04 2018 No.11149381 Still looking for something like The Orphan's Tales and The Golem And The Jinni. Atmospheric fairy tales that aren't set in medieval europe are too damn rare

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 23:24:48 2018 No.11149465 >>11149381 Bridge of Birds

Anonymous Sun May 13 23:33:06 2018 No.11149489

>>11149357
It was a meme. Gunpowder fantasy has been around for a while -- Warhammer Fantasy, Arcanum, even Shadowrun to some extent, all older properties. Strange & Norrell was the best out of the last batch but it wasn't that widely read. There's too much overlap with steampunk, I think, which as dumb as that's gotten still has a pretty conpelling aesthetic if nothing else. My guess is we might see a steampunk masterpiece someday but powdermagic will remain a niche subgenre.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 23:35:25 2018 No.11149491 >>11149489 Do you think gunpowder fantasy has to have the magical entities (wizards, creatures) etc. interacting with gunpowder itself or can it just be fantasy with guns involved and a certain 17/18th century aesthetic?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 23:40:31 2018 No.11149503 >>11149489 Strange&Norrell is something of a small miracle all things considered.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 23:54:53 2018 No.11149543 >>11149350 Intro to world Development of world Explanation of world

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 00:03:25 2018 No.11149559 >>11149298 For me, better characterization is the key. Have you read The Book of Three and the other Prydain books?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 00:40:46 2018 No.11149656 >>11149350 Seriously this post is just making it worse. You’re so fucking dumb.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 01:29:37 2018 No.11149784 >>11149656 He's /outerlit/ in action

Anonymous Mon May 14 03:03:55 2018 No.11150080

>>11149491
Up until like the early modern period when metallurgy and gunsmiths got more consistent, the French artillery was basically treated like they had arcane and mysterious powers. If the king wanted to go to war he'd send a letter to them politely requesting the artillery wizards to bring their cannons.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 03:06:24 2018 No.11150087 >>11148663 No gri it's pretty tame

Anonymous Mon May 14 03:10:41 2018 No.11150096

>>11150080
That's fascinating.

I asked in >>11149491 because people are calling Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell gunpowder fantasy and I'm not sure it qualifies. The existence of "gunpowder" and all it implies is extremely incidental to the plot. It's arguably just historical fantasy. This is as opposed to stuff like the powder mage trilogy, which, as the name implies, entails wizards directly manipulating firearms and explosives.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 03:19:20 2018 No.11150119 >>11148629 >Wolfe only 4 stars, lower than Lafferty >no GRRM, even though many of those living on that list think he's a genius, including Wolfe Contrarian pseuds are life unworthy of life. I'm not kidding.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 04:29:47 2018 No.11150248 >>11148796 Altered Carbon is decent. I don't listen to music while I read, it doesn't really add anything for me and sometimes it's distracting me from the text.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 04:32:09 2018 No.11150257 >>11149308 Read them in the usual recommended order, then re read them in chronological some time later if you really feel like it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 04:34:30 2018 No.11150263 >>11150096 >It's arguably just historical fantasy Yeah, this.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 05:44:19 2018 No.11150430 >>11150119 Are you saying that lafferty isn't good?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 05:46:22 2018 No.11150438 >>11148649 The movie is kino lads (gets a bit weak at the end though).

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 06:39:35 2018 No.11150554 File: 148 KB, 1038x1066, Jeremy_Saliba_aiel_take_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can someone tell me if these retards get exterminated before the end of the series?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 06:49:24 2018 No.11150583 >>11150554 Why do you read WoT? It seems like all posters reading it hate it but keep reading for some unknown reason.

Anonymous Mon May 14 06:53:34 2018 No.11150589

>>11150583
It's the nicotine addiction of fantasy: you and everyone else knows it's bad, everyone tried to convince you not do it while fighting a losing battle to quit themselves, but you just can't help it and keep doing it despite the drain on your bank account and health

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 06:56:21 2018 No.11150597 >>11150589 This, I'm also a smoker.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 07:04:46 2018 No.11150615 >>11150597 Smokers are the only group that not only discourages you from joining but also asks you to leave and praises you for doing so. I've been on the quitting path for a month now.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 07:31:46 2018 No.11150684 >>11150583 I just want to understand how Jordan can be married so long and still remain an autistic permavirgin.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 08:41:13 2018 No.11150877 >>11150583 I haven't read it and I see it discussed here frequently. I'm often intrigued but for the life of me I don't think I could read a 12 book series that seems to have so many meme qualities.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 08:54:24 2018 No.11150916 >>11150257 i can't even find the chronological order is the problem

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 09:00:51 2018 No.11150939 >>11150916 You'll know once you've read them. There's no point in reading them in chronological order the first time.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 09:00:57 2018 No.11150940 >>11150916 Fuck off already you twit

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 09:03:24 2018 No.11150954 >>11150615 You've never met Arsenal fans

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 09:08:10 2018 No.11150969 >>11150954 I have, but they're a tad obnoxious and annoying at times. Also, who the fuck wants to be a gunner?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 09:40:21 2018 No.11151040 >>11150940 Maybe I want to read them that way, I did it with other books and media. >>11150939 then i'm not going to read them at all

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 10:09:18 2018 No.11151135 >>11151040 >then i'm not going to read them at all So? That's your problem.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 10:16:24 2018 No.11151157 File: 2.05 MB, 4194x2977, 1[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Red Country by Joe Abercrombie

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 10:20:01 2018 No.11151165 >>11151040 >then i'm not going to read them at all Good, more for us.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 10:47:14 2018 No.11151225 >>11148663 Nothing is directly mentioned, but Snow's visitor is strongly implied to be the manifestation of a perverted desire (that he doesn't want to discuss).

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 11:10:58 2018 No.11151316 >>11151157 Russians are such show-offs. You should have bad covers like everyone else.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 11:26:03 2018 No.11151376 Just picked up The Red Knight on my kindle. What am I in for?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 11:28:53 2018 No.11151384 >>11151376 disappointment met by twist disappointment

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 11:31:18 2018 No.11151397 >>11151384 Great

Anonymous Mon May 14 11:39:00 2018 No.11151439
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Can someone please explain why Malazan is so hated here? Couple years ago it was hot shit all over /lit/ now it's like the mere mention of anything Erikson is sinful. The guy created what is possibly the largest cast of unique charachters/mythos in modern epic fantasy. The amount of depth he drew from his knowledge of world histories & cultures (being an anthropologist) & all the different philosophies & psychologies integrated into the series also proves as testament to his skill. I'm almost finished with the main series and have enjoyed it so far but I've seen a few complain it gets too overwhelming with the subplots and pointless characters (which I can understand after 8000+ pages of build-up)

Pic related is probably the most badass guy in the whole series other than Kruppe

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 11:50:55 2018 No.11151484 >>11151439 Malazan always had haters, but now a lot more people have read it so there are more haters.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 11:52:53 2018 No.11151489 >>11148629 I'm retarded, someone link Lexicon Urthus for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 12:04:46 2018 No.11151530 >>11151439 There're plenty here who like it and used to post good things, but it's been a while. It's easy to dismiss as big or confusing.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 12:14:40 2018 No.11151560 >>11151439 >epic fantasy That's my personal problem with it

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 12:18:37 2018 No.11151566 >>11151560 Why?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 12:20:23 2018 No.11151576 What should I read?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 12:24:02 2018 No.11151590 >>11151376 Cuckoldry

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 12:25:04 2018 No.11151596 >>11151439 That art would answer your question.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 12:28:03 2018 No.11151609 >>11148629 >Science Fiction & Fantasy General www.reddit.com/r/books Bon voyage!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 12:30:12 2018 No.11151621 >>11151609 Why would you do such a thing to yourself?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 12:31:20 2018 No.11151628 >>11151621 Don't reply to it

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 12:31:30 2018 No.11151630 >>11151566 It's neverending, dull, never seems to move forward and often loses track of its purpose. It's a genre usually dedicated to worldbuilding instead of characters, ideas, themes, etc and often lacks in quality prose.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 12:36:44 2018 No.11151648 >>11151630 Erikson literally expands on all of those more than any writer in the genre I've come across

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 12:37:57 2018 No.11151654 >>11151648 This better not be a ruse muh fucka

Anonymous Mon May 14 12:41:08 2018 No.11151668

So a while back some anons posted some really nice illustrations of their waifus from what I assume was a scifi book. One of the waifus dressed sort of edgy, looked like an assassin or something. The book might have been about a secret underground guild and the word "shadow" might have been used, I don't remember. I reverse image searched them and had a bookmark with the name of the book but I did a factory reset on my phone and lost the link. Would any of you know what I'm talking about?

Anonymous Mon May 14 13:00:49 2018 No.11151751

>>11151439
>why Malazan is so hated here?
I don't hate Malazan, I just don't like it. All your praise point to the main problem, it's an extremely bloated work. Also, the writing is average and the pacing (as always when it comes to epic fantasy) is bad.

Anonymous Mon May 14 13:27:23 2018 No.11151877

>>11151439
I liked parts of it but overall it was a confusing mix of a lot of stuff which didn't need to go together. Definitely the best series for military squad stuff but I could really pass on all the starving children in the desert and other assorted pointless diversions.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 13:53:36 2018 No.11151986 >Perhaps the Stars is still a year away Why did you shills not tell me to hold of my reading for a couple of months?

Anonymous Mon May 14 13:59:12 2018 No.11152011

>>11151986
because people ignore warnings. it gets tired to tell people to wait until a series is done because A they ignore you or B they say theyll wait but lack the mental fortitude or discipline to actually wait and then come back bitching anyways.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 14:00:55 2018 No.11152019 File: 76 KB, 320x331, The_First_Law_84.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Heard a lot of praise for this. I like my fantasy dark & gritty so should this be up my alley?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 14:03:10 2018 No.11152030 Why is there so much cucking in Fantasy in recent years? I'm sick of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 14:04:16 2018 No.11152035 >>11152030 S O Y

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 14:04:55 2018 No.11152039 >>11152030 I want wholesome love story with a happy ending. I mean it's fantasy so why not.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 14:21:15 2018 No.11152093 >>11152035 What did anon mean by this? >>11152039 Same. Too many authors want to ride off the coattails of GoT and try to make a gritty and "realistic" fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 15:02:23 2018 No.11152288 >>11152093 >implying Jon and Dany won’t have the greatest love story in literary history

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 15:08:51 2018 No.11152324 >>11152093 It's just a product of our time for some reason NTR is popular and in demand. The simplest meme answer was that.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 15:29:37 2018 No.11152418 File: 49 KB, 319x216, Brain Problems.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11152011 Hmm. Guess I have myself to blame.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 15:33:35 2018 No.11152437 So was the play chapter in claw of the conciliator important at all and filled with foreshadowing? I sped read that shit because it was boring.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 15:33:40 2018 No.11152439 >>11152019 >I like my fantasy dark & gritty so should this be up my alley? Maybe. However, it's not really a good series so if you have picky taste I would not recommend it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 15:34:43 2018 No.11152442 >>11152437 >So was the play chapter in claw of the conciliator important at all and filled with foreshadowing? Well, yeah.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 15:35:25 2018 No.11152445 File: 54 KB, 1280x696, ali.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11152437 >it was boring

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Anonymous Mon May 14 15:51:17 2018 No.11152527

Is there anything remotely as good as PKD?
Ive been reading most of his worthwhile stuff and I want to read someone interesting that delves into psychological and philosophical questions extensively and has the same sense of the surreal nature of mundanity
Seems like he’s the only sci-fi writer that actually has the right amount of personality, individuality and madness to produce a profound reading experience

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 15:52:40 2018 No.11152530 >>11152527 Blindopraxia man

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 15:52:52 2018 No.11152532 >>11152442 Then maybe I'll speed read it again. >>11152445 Not as boring as the story time chapter with the boats

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 15:53:49 2018 No.11152537 File: 44 KB, 843x453, anger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11152532 I will fight you you piece of Ascian shit

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 16:02:16 2018 No.11152582 Have anyone read The Mists of Avalon? How deep a knowledge of Arthurian legends do I need to fully enjoy it?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 16:03:42 2018 No.11152592 >>11152582 Oh fuck off /outerlit/

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 16:09:28 2018 No.11152629 >>11152592 Why would I fuck off to outer /lit/ with questions about fantasy?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 17:13:01 2018 No.11152917 >>11152592 >Marion Zimmer Bradley >/outerlit/

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 17:19:07 2018 No.11152948 File: 90 KB, 640x640, 1526095328945.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >start new book >female love interest is absolutely insufferable

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 17:22:46 2018 No.11152964 >>11152948 >as the hero matures throughout his journey, he notices Fucking great. I love proper arcs.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 17:37:18 2018 No.11153033 Can someone post the PKD reading order chart?

Anonymous Mon May 14 17:48:06 2018 No.11153072

>>11152948
>story plays up love escapades between mc and loveinterest 1
>shes a total fucking insufferable idiot and would probably cheat on him
>mc notices and instead goes for the interest that he hasnt noticed the entire story
>love interest 1 is furious for being dropped for another woman/man
or
>love interest 1 is a huge fucking cunt
>mc instead gets a harem of ther women that won the mc bowl pissing off interest 1 into doing stupid shit that gets her killed

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 17:51:31 2018 No.11153080 >>11152948 >start a new book >see the cliche love interest and best friend triangle forming >they all get killed by chapter 4 Feels good man

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 17:56:53 2018 No.11153091 File: 343 KB, 1286x761, recs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is there a better way to find recommendations?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 18:01:38 2018 No.11153112 >>11153091 Roll a die 13 times and then buy the book with that ISBN. I'm 100% serious.

Anonymous Mon May 14 18:08:23 2018 No.11153142

>>11153091
instead of looking at the toplists look at the "people also bought" section of a book you liked. its fairly often updated. usually a few hours a after a book has been released its already changed.
also good reads lists. beyond that i just ask here if something is similar to something ive read or just pick out something some people recommend more than once.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 18:09:29 2018 No.11153146 >>11153072 Do either of these actually happen in any books? Sounds too good to be true.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 18:11:42 2018 No.11153158 >>11153146 the former does. the second is wishful thinking on my part.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 18:17:22 2018 No.11153186 >>11153158 >the former does Care to tell me what book does this?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 18:19:01 2018 No.11153199 >>11153186 this happens like one out of 3 fantasy series. its not exactly rare.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 18:20:26 2018 No.11153213 >>11148629 I always jack off while reading regardless of the book.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 18:23:24 2018 No.11153225 >>11153213 hello fellow literphile

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 19:10:42 2018 No.11153446 I just finished Larry niven's ringworld series and loved it. What should I read next that's similar?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 19:17:25 2018 No.11153468 >>11149559 Not him but those are some great classic books.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 19:19:33 2018 No.11153480 >>11151376 couldn't finish it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 19:22:57 2018 No.11153495 >>11153080 what book is this?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 19:27:06 2018 No.11153513 >>11153495 Tears of a Heart. I don't think it is quite chapter 4 but within the first hundred or so pages.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 19:31:41 2018 No.11153527 >>11153446 Rendezvous with Rama

Anonymous Mon May 14 19:32:07 2018 No.11153531

>>11152582
I read half of it (before giving up forever). That's still 400+ pages so I feel like I have a handle on it. You don't need to know a lot about the mythos aside from who people are because MZB isn't faithful to the source material.

>>11153480
I reread the first two books recently. I was shocked to realize how much influence Lloyd Alexander had on my outlook on life and the kind of writing I want to do.

Anonymous Mon May 14 19:56:12 2018 No.11153623

>>11153091
yes for the love of god filter that shit so it doesn't show anything on the kindle shop. or browse by publisher or some shit. self pubbies are cancer. fuck that pic makes me irrationally angry. it's like someone went through a checklist of sheeple manipulation tactics. it's so formulaic, even the "Authors" name REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous Mon May 14 20:53:51 2018 No.11153794

Crimson Queen was really, really good. That Alec Hutson guy is already my favorite writer from the recent years along with Will Wight. Setting felt a bit too close to d&d and one of the twists was so obvious it was a bit painful, but those are about the only things I can nitpick. The first isn't really even much of a minus for me since I don't care about setting originality.

Wonder if there's any more writers that are similar to them, nothing terribly deep, just well paced and well structured consistent plot and characters. That sounds like describing something very average but 99% of everything else I read is often boring or otherwise terrible for parts or even whole books, rarely find anything that's just solid and entertaining all the way through.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 20:57:14 2018 No.11153805 >authors who go on vacations and post pictures of their "adventures" instead of writing sequels whats their f**king problems

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 21:01:38 2018 No.11153829 >>11151157 worse than all of the first law, better than best served cold and the heroes

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 21:32:26 2018 No.11153955 I don't fucking know what to listen to while driving to work anymore. I am literally out of fantasy from audible. Is there fucking anything entertaining?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 21:34:29 2018 No.11153968 >>11153955 listen to some classic rock radio station or litrpg

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 21:35:02 2018 No.11153974 what is, in your opinion, the quintessential science fiction story?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 21:38:19 2018 No.11153986 >>11153974 For me, it's Big Mac

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 21:38:56 2018 No.11153987 >>11153974 For me, it's Martian Chronicles

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 21:42:25 2018 No.11153999 >>11153968 I've listened to a ridiculous amount of litrpg. Sometimes I listen to spotify. I need some books. We're talking 1.5hr drive there and back every day.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 21:44:29 2018 No.11154004 >>11153999 Fantasy or like Alt History? Sci fi?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 21:46:55 2018 No.11154013 >>11154004 I'll do any of the three.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 21:48:52 2018 No.11154018 >>11153974 Starship Troopers

Anonymous Mon May 14 21:49:20 2018 No.11154026

>>11153794
I read the crimson queen and enjoyed it but don't really understand the massive amount of praise it got. It was good for sure but didn't seem all that special. I've also read the cradle series by will wight and enjoyed those as well. Will probably get around to reading the travelers gate trilogy by him later.

I can recommend 2 series that seem similar to those that I enjoyed even more. The first is benjamin ashwood by AC cobble. It's got a nice blend of politics and swords/magic. The second is the white tower by michael wisehart. It jumps perspectives but I never got annoyed by it. Neither are really deep and epic but I found them really solid and found myself staying up until 3 or 4am reading them.

Unless I'm just completely retarded, if you enjoyed the crimson queen and stuff by will wight I feel like you should enjoy those books as well

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 21:49:54 2018 No.11154028 >>11153999 >We're talking 1.5hr drive there and back every day. What the fuck is wrong with Americans

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 21:52:52 2018 No.11154034 >>11154028 thats a pretty normal commute for someone who doesn't specifically live near where they work especially if you are in a city

Anonymous Mon May 14 21:54:50 2018 No.11154045

>>11154028
It's a big country Mac
>>11154013
The Turtledove WW2 series is pretty good, and there's a couple of books, and there is the Lost Fleet, though that requires some imagination imo and might not be great for driving '

The Halo novels are basic Sci Fi, but are always pretty fun. I'm reading the Eternal Empire, and it's fun, but casual.

Then there's one of my favorite Series, the Invasion series by Vaughn Heppner. I always go back to read it every so often

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 21:58:27 2018 No.11154055 >>11154045 I can do thinking stuff while driving, what is eternal empire? The Halo Novels are good? Hrmmm

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 21:59:39 2018 No.11154058 >>11154028 I live in the washington metro d.c. area.

Anonymous Mon May 14 22:03:54 2018 No.11154082

>>11154045
The halo novels are good because I love the game, but the novels are what got me obsessed. The Nylund ones are the best and are the staple of the literary world of Halo, bur there are a few up and coming authors. There's a few to pick from

As for Eternal Empire, it's Alt history of the Roman Empire surviving until like 1920. The Author's strong suit seems to be in the war portions, but it's fun seeing his perspective of Roman imperial culture and "modern" tech

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 22:08:44 2018 No.11154101 >>11154026 Thanks, I'll look at those, didn't hear of either before.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 22:12:51 2018 No.11154119 >>11151986 holy fuck really it better read as a standalone than as an extension of the third/second books or i'm gonna shitpost it here till we're sick & tired of it

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 22:35:39 2018 No.11154229 >>11150080 Fuck fantasy. Give me some history books about this, it's far more interesting

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 22:41:49 2018 No.11154255 >>11151157 Joe is a giant faggot and no serious reader should forgive him for the failed abortions he continues to perform on all his series

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 22:45:01 2018 No.11154270 File: 41 KB, 329x499, 51TBvQufN6L._SX327_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What a fucking disappointment.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 22:48:19 2018 No.11154279 >>11154270 he should have left well enough alone and gone on too something new.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 22:50:24 2018 No.11154291 >>11153091 >it is implied there are over 50 books in this series >Each book has over 200 5 star reviews I'm done with this world

Anonymous Mon May 14 22:53:57 2018 No.11154310

>>11154270
Wait there's a new one? What's it about? I remember when a big movie studio bought the rights to the series to make the next billion dollar hunger games and how utterly impossible it is to make it a film with all the class subjugation and racism

Anonymous Mon May 14 23:35:59 2018 No.11154552

>>11154310
Why the fuck are a bunch of people above the age of 18 claiming that a YA novel involving color-coded castes is good?

>how utterly impossible it is to make it a film with all the class subjugation and racism

The oppressive bad guys are all white men and all the oppressed heroes are all nonwhites except for the love interest, a white woman. Are you even trying?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 23:37:22 2018 No.11154554 >>11154552 Never claimed it was good

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:02:31 2018 No.11154668 >>11152439 what's wrong with it?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:11:07 2018 No.11154693 File: 25 KB, 300x300, 51zLUob6H7L._AA300_[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why was this book so fucking sick?

Anonymous Tue May 15 00:14:18 2018 No.11154710

Just finished Dune and it's fucking garbage. The dialogue and inner monologues are so horrible, you can't find a borderline sympathetic character in the entire ordeal. The only salvaging point being the pretty interesting environment Hubert describes. Why is this shit rated again?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:18:12 2018 No.11154720 >>11154710 just one of those old meme sci-fi books people pretend were good

>>	Thiskillsthedarkelf Tue May 15 00:19:12 2018 No.11154723 >>11149298 You literally just described shounen. YA is normally used to describe stories that focus on teen angst.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:19:41 2018 No.11154725 File: 30 KB, 293x475, 140671.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] overrated

Anonymous Tue May 15 00:22:46 2018 No.11154736

>>11154552
That isn't true, there were black "Golds" that evil overpowered bald bitch was black and so was her father the Ash Lord. Also Darrow was white before his transformation and their are tons of good heroic Golds, most of the cast.
You didn't fucking read it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:22:58 2018 No.11154737 File: 32 KB, 328x499, more like kurt shit nugget am i right.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11154725

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:24:05 2018 No.11154741 >>11154720 >>11154710 Stop being plebs

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:25:45 2018 No.11154747 >>11154741 u stop the whole "golden age of sci-fi" thing is a giant meme

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:26:46 2018 No.11154754 >>11154747 What would you consider good sci-fi, oh great scion of taste?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:27:34 2018 No.11154759 >>11154754 Jack Vance stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:27:37 2018 No.11154760 book of the enw suanfsd

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:33:05 2018 No.11154784 File: 2.95 MB, 4032x3024, 20180514_163416.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ironic. I'm laying in a hospital bed with cellulitis of the hand and can't read the copy of the brothers karamazov I have with me because I can't hold it.

Anonymous Tue May 15 00:36:21 2018 No.11154798

>>11154710
I never understood why you white people loved dune so damn much. I was born in the middle east, the desert fucking sucks. Having an entire series dedicated to le ebin desert and space Muslims is overkill. Maybe Nordic people would find it just as cringey if there was a series set in an ice planet with space vikings

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:37:18 2018 No.11154801 >>11154798 betcha you'd change ur mind if there were giant sand worms irl

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:37:33 2018 No.11154802 >>11154784 You have two hands faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:38:21 2018 No.11154804 >>11154784 being fat is not an illness lol

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:38:38 2018 No.11154806 >>11154802 How am I gonna be comfortable reading for long and turning pages with one hand when I can just shitpost on morphine?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:40:10 2018 No.11154815 >>11154804 Nigga you can tell it's abnormally swollen by the redness. I'd take a pic of my other hand but I can't use the fat one.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:41:30 2018 No.11154818 >>11154806 The answer is always more morphine

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:43:48 2018 No.11154821 >>11154818 Well it happened from shooting heroin. So maybe not once I get out

Anonymous Tue May 15 00:49:37 2018 No.11154840

>>11148629
>what are you currently reading?
Metal Boxes. All I can think about while reading this is how I'm going to make a Read-Expected-Got picture that accurately conveys my feelings for this book. I think I may have been tricked into reading YA.

>what do you do with your hands while reading?
Hold the book with one hand, my drink with the other. Or hold the steering wheel if it's an audiobook.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:52:19 2018 No.11154850 I think I'm going to write a fantasy story as a very veiled allegory about trading on the financial market. Mark Douglas of all people has got me inspired. Wish me no luck and all.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 00:52:32 2018 No.11154851 File: 52 KB, 570x371, 1482061183224.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Local public library doesn't have Gardens of the Moon >The entire library exchange in my area has 7 Erikson novels and 3 Esselmont What the FUCK

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 02:55:24 2018 No.11155296 >>11154851 just download it or buy a used copy for cheap

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 03:04:50 2018 No.11155329 Are any of you playing Pillars of Eternity 2? Are you enjoying it?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 03:07:12 2018 No.11155339 >>11155329 >Pillars of Eternity2 ohh nice there is 2, picked up

Anonymous Tue May 15 03:33:38 2018 No.11155397
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Any decent sci-fi westerns? Space cowboys on the new frontier of a harsh and lawless planet seems like it could be so good, but I'm not familiar with any books along those lines.

Anonymous Tue May 15 04:04:29 2018 No.11155460
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>>11155329
If the PoE team could make a new Fallout game in the same style I would cry manly tears of absolutely joy.

Too bad we're probably going to be stuck with Bethesda's vision for the rest of the frachise's life. Speaking of which, are there any relatively up-beat books set after the apocalypse? I'm not looking for another The Road, just some cool people exploring the shattered ruins of the old world.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:05:14 2018 No.11155463 >>11153974 For me, it's Three Body Problem

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:08:38 2018 No.11155472 >>11155460 Drowned World

Anonymous Tue May 15 04:11:47 2018 No.11155482

>>11155460
>If the PoE team could make a new Fallout game in the same style I would cry manly tears of absolutely joy.
I'm not sure you would... PoE II is quite bad, both in terms of gameplay and writing compared to the first. Bethesda might be bad, but at least they aren't shoving progressive ideology down our throats - yet.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:13:36 2018 No.11155488 File: 9 KB, 190x265, disgust.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11155482 I thought /sffg/ was safe from gaymergayte faggotry

Anonymous Tue May 15 04:18:28 2018 No.11155503

>>11154668
I'm not a fan of Abercrombies writing (in general, so you may disregard this if you've read something else by him and liked his writing), it's quite basic and feel immature in an edgy sense. The first book, The Blade Itself, is basically a long ass exposition dump. Abercrombie himself say that he's writing sword & sorcery but except in extent his take on the genre is worse than older writers like Robert E. Howard and Fritz Leiber.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:19:50 2018 No.11155508 >>11155488 Why would you think that? Almost all of these fantasy games are pushing it, and a lot of the YA series have it too.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:20:54 2018 No.11155513 >>11155503 I'm not even following the conversation but I agree with this. Abercrombrie reads like something a teenager would've written. I can't believe I read that whole series and barely remember anything.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:21:24 2018 No.11155517 >>11155508 Just fuck off you spoiled brat

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:22:01 2018 No.11155518 >>11155482 >>11155508 I was talking more the aesthetic. I prefer the looks of the original two games than the FPS versions. Anyway, I didn't mean to derail the thread at all. Talk about books.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:22:06 2018 No.11155519 >>11154747 >>11154754 >>11154759 >golden age of sci-fi was in the 40s >Vance published his best works in the 50s >dune was released 1965 >golden age is a meme, Vance > Herbert You people are a giant meme. However, Vance > Herbert without a doubt.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:22:26 2018 No.11155522 >>11155513 I'm halfway through Solaris and I can't remember shit. But that's probably the excessive drinking.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:23:49 2018 No.11155525 >>11155519 Vance at his best is barely better than Wells or Clarke at their barest mediocrity, the fuck you on about

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:24:10 2018 No.11155527 File: 20 KB, 484x304, images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11155518 For me it's Wasteland 2

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:31:19 2018 No.11155544 >>11155517 Excuse me?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:32:50 2018 No.11155549 >>11155544 No, you're inexcusable

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:36:24 2018 No.11155560 >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:40:03 2018 No.11155569 File: 9 KB, 273x185, sphinx.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] any fantasy stories with sphinx? the only story I know of with a sphinx is from the theban plays.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:41:27 2018 No.11155574 >>11155525 I have to admit that I have only read the Dying Earth stories and Lyonesse by Vance, but they're absolutely on par with Wells at his best.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:42:29 2018 No.11155577 >>11155569 There's a sphinx in the second Latro book. It's a quite minor character however.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:52:52 2018 No.11155597 >>11155574 Not even close to Herbert though.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 04:58:38 2018 No.11155606 >>11155597 Actually way better than Herbert whose legacy is one noteworthy book and a couple of mediocre to trash sequels.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 05:03:02 2018 No.11155614 >>11155606 White Plague, Dossadi Experiment, Hellstrom's Hive, Dune Messiah and God Emperor are so much better than Vance's best it's not even funny

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 05:09:11 2018 No.11155628 >>11155614 >Dossadi Experiment How good is this? I saw it a while ago and it really interested me but I haven't been able to track down a copy.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 05:10:26 2018 No.11155634 File: 30 KB, 400x400, Vlad the implier.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11155614 >Dune Messiah and God Emperor are so much better than Vance's best

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 05:19:24 2018 No.11155658 About halfway through Driftglass, currently on the story involving the cable-layers. Really neat stuff, my favorite of the stories so far is "Aye, and Gomorrah." Any recommendations for other works by Delany after I'm done?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 05:33:48 2018 No.11155704 Reading Magician: apprentice right now and I'm at 50% So far it is isn't a terrible book but it lacks impact and it just leaves me wanting for actual WIZARD shenanigans. What book or series has that full powerful mage in a tower experience?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 05:35:28 2018 No.11155709 >>11155628 It's actually pretty good

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 05:46:00 2018 No.11155745 >>11155704 Just read Strange&Norrell

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 06:04:02 2018 No.11155793 >>11155704 Face in the Frost and Strange + Norrell

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 06:10:58 2018 No.11155814 >>11155614 God Emperor is pretty great, but I honestly didn't rate Messiah that much.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 06:26:34 2018 No.11155858 >>11155793 >>11155745 Thanks I'll check it out.

Anonymous Tue May 15 07:08:33 2018 No.11155975

>>11152530
Man the writing is shit
But at least from the small fraction I read so far the story is composed out of concepts I do find interesting so hopefully it would be worth the flat prose
Also I sincerely hope the vampire is organically blended with the setting and isn’t just the YA teenage girl sexual fantasy trope

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 07:31:57 2018 No.11156038 >>11151439 >Pic related is probably the most badass guy in the whole series other than Kruppe What? Kruppe is badass? I'm on the 5th book right now, and he was just a bumbling smart ass in the first and third books. Does he become a badass later on?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 08:56:34 2018 No.11156333 >>11155569 i am one

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 09:21:19 2018 No.11156420 File: 81 KB, 640x480, 1526175658669.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who is /sffg/'s favorite female protagonist, and why is it Honor Harrington?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 09:27:29 2018 No.11156436 >>11156420 >slag

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 09:31:44 2018 No.11156451 >>11156420 >female >favorite anything

Anonymous Tue May 15 09:34:28 2018 No.11156459

>>11156420
I thought the Three Body Trilogy protag introduced later on in the series was quite enjoyable, it was nice having such a whimsical soft character to break up the more serious cast and themes.

The crazy bitch in Starfish was also excellent, exceedingly bonkers.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 09:39:01 2018 No.11156484 >>11156420 Sabriel.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 09:42:43 2018 No.11156495 >>11149381 Night's Master

Anonymous Tue May 15 09:45:02 2018 No.11156500

>>11151439

Malazan is asinine garbage. Complaining about pointless subplots and characters is itself pointless, no individual component of it is as bad as all of it. It's no better than Wheel of Time or Shannara, infinitely long parade of trash for cash doorstoppers. It's so bad that even its classier, more intelligent derivative work (Prince of Nothing) is still bloated, moronic, artless and terrible.

Anonymous Tue May 15 09:53:59 2018 No.11156529

>>11156420
Honor's books are persistently entertaining filler, but shes a crappy protagonist. Good at absolutely everything under heaven, whole worlds hanging on her beck and call, reshapes cultures before lunchtime and everyone must love her unless they're fucking satanical villain of the deepest dye, she even has a magical animal sidekick are you fucking kidding me cmon son what is this anime shit. She's like Hornblower but even more absurdly perfect. Give me a space captainess like Jack Aubrey and we'll talk.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 09:56:08 2018 No.11156541 File: 1.28 MB, 1080x1327, 1526044365304.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] /sffg/, what is your favorite book/series, and what do you like most about it?

Anonymous Tue May 15 09:58:02 2018 No.11156548

Is Baru Cormorant worth reading? Wikipedia stub is really skeeving me out, I try not to be biased against books just because they are marketed to woke idiots but the last time I tried something in this vein was NK Jemisin's Broken Earth which was horrendous.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 10:02:20 2018 No.11156569 >>11156548 I started it and it reminded me of a bad video game. Also I think the MC at the beginning has two dads or two moms or something like that if I remember right. Truly progressive.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 10:03:48 2018 No.11156575 >>11156541 GOR women are treated like they deserve to be treated.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 10:05:50 2018 No.11156584 >>11156548 I've been considering reading it for about a year now. From what discussion and comments I've seen it seems okay but I'm not yet fully convinced. I'll probably pirate an e-book and check it out before I buy the actual book however.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 10:14:28 2018 No.11156626 >>11156420 carolyn from the library at mount char

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 10:21:11 2018 No.11156673 File: 132 KB, 585x1000, Chanur_CONCEPT01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11156420 You know the answer

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 10:43:31 2018 No.11156779 >>11156541 They all piss me off one way or the other. Warlord Chronicles and The Dread Empire's fall are the only two I can think off that haven't left a sour taste behind. Maybe I should read LOTR.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 10:44:33 2018 No.11156785 >>11156779 Actually scratch that, Sarantine Mosaic hands down.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 10:46:28 2018 No.11156795 >>11154552 We back at irish not being white?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 10:47:37 2018 No.11156803 >>11156795 Are Irish even human?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 10:48:38 2018 No.11156809 >>11156795 We never left

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 10:52:17 2018 No.11156830 >>11156779 Yeah you probably should. LOTR is a good book. Just approach without preconceptions.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 11:05:19 2018 No.11156884 What next? The Road or I Am Legend?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 11:05:55 2018 No.11156886 >>11156884 The Road, but read both eventually.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 11:08:53 2018 No.11156897 File: 828 KB, 1690x2560, tigana.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11156420 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 11:09:02 2018 No.11156899 >>11154668 Have you ever watched a marathon run between a tortoise and a sloth? Do that first, and if you like it you can move on and read Abercrombie.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 11:10:17 2018 No.11156906 Books with strong imagery?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 11:10:58 2018 No.11156910 >>11152019 Read the first in the series after id heard a lot of good things and recommendations. Boy! was i dissapointed

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 11:18:17 2018 No.11156939 >>11156906 The Worm Ouroboros

Anonymous Tue May 15 11:35:18 2018 No.11157008
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To the anon in one of the previous threads who was asking about Tiger and Del books, I finally got around to finishing them and they're mediocre at best. Also since you were asking about it, there isn't any overt cucking in this series. Though Del is revealed to have a daughter born from rape. At the end of the day I wouldn't recommend it, especially if you're looking for a good fantasy romance.

>>	Thiskillsthedarkelf Tue May 15 11:47:13 2018 No.11157055 >>11157008 >rape daughter Female authors though. Although that is probably pretty common, given how dirty old men can be.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 11:57:50 2018 No.11157102 >>11157055 It's well known that female authors are often the most degenerate.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 11:59:26 2018 No.11157109 the poppy war is so good my dudes

Anonymous Tue May 15 12:04:52 2018 No.11157132
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>>11157109
>Because being a dark-skinned peasant girl from the south is not an easy thing at Sinegard. Targeted from the outset by rival classmates for her color, poverty, and gender, Rin discovers she possesses a lethal, unearthly power—an aptitude for the nearly-mythical art of shamanism.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 12:06:43 2018 No.11157140 >>11157132 doesnt it sound marvelous

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 12:06:49 2018 No.11157142 >>11157132 Is that really the premise? That sounds hilariously bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 12:08:16 2018 No.11157151 >>11157132 the summary is a bit misleading as the academy part comes to en end after a third of the book

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 12:22:51 2018 No.11157228 Do you think we'll live to see a manned mission to mars?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 12:24:06 2018 No.11157234 >>11157228 Depends how long you live

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 12:27:17 2018 No.11157243 Does Shadowrun have any good novels?

Anonymous Tue May 15 12:46:36 2018 No.11157318

>>11155397
He never involves literal cowboys but one of Heinlein's major themes is the parallels between the settlement of space and the American frontier. Try The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Tunnel in the Sky, Farmer in the Sky, Have Spacesuit Will Travel. There is one good subplot/episode in Time Enough For Love about this although I wouldn't recommend the book generally.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 12:54:51 2018 No.11157362 >>11152948 I like those Tiles.

Anonymous Tue May 15 12:55:53 2018 No.11157369

>>11155519
Dune is great, contrarian memes aside. However, you are absolutely correct that Vance > Herbert.

>>11155525
Vance arguably isn't quite as original as Wells and rarely bothers with scientific plausibility, much less at Clarke's level. In terms of style, however, Vance blows both of them out of the water and was far more prolific than Wells to boot. Saying that "Clarke is better than Vance" just means that you like hard SF more than technically good writing.

>>11155628
It's pretty good although if you're going through Herbert's oeuvre looking for something else on the level of Dune don't bother.

>>11155634
>>11155814
Messiah, Children, and God-Emperor explore the setting a bit more, and elaborate the role of fate/historical contingency vs will/choice in the lives of Great Men that were only touched on in Dune regarding Paul.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 13:00:44 2018 No.11157386 Shill me your favorite fantasy books with romance subplots.

Anonymous Tue May 15 13:02:40 2018 No.11157392

>>11157369
Yeah, I got Messiah I just didn't think it was as good as God Emperor or Children. I feel like Messiah didn't do as good a job of exploring the pitfalls of prophecy and holy men as much as the books focusing on Leto II.

It was quite interesting to see how the religious mantle that Paul was forced to adopt in Dune ended up growing beyond him, ultimately weakening and destroying the Fremen. But again, most of that really came out in the later books. I honestly think Messiah is the weakest of the series.

Obviously I only read up to Chapterhouse, I heard the non-Frank Herbert books aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 13:19:48 2018 No.11157473 >>11157392 They're worth the paper if it's toilet paper. Messiah is my fav of the series, controversial statement that may be.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 13:24:07 2018 No.11157487 >>11157386 Scroll of the Forthcoming Sol

Anonymous Tue May 15 13:24:38 2018 No.11157489

>>11157008
i was that anon. that asked. i havent read them yet actually. i finished downloading the audiobooks since i dont actually have time to read much in the short term future. ill probably listen to the first and second book and then go from there.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 13:27:07 2018 No.11157503 >>11157487 >Scroll of the Forthcoming Sol Google gives no info on this. Am I being memed?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 13:28:21 2018 No.11157507 >>11157386 Vavasour of Thorns

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 13:29:04 2018 No.11157510 >>11157503 Tome of the Novelty Aster, depending on translation. Written by Eugenio Loboe

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 13:32:15 2018 No.11157523 >>11157507 >>11157510 Fuck you.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 13:33:12 2018 No.11157526 >>11157523 Buy me an avern first

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 13:37:09 2018 No.11157543 >>11157526 What else can you offer without Gene Wolfe?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 13:39:00 2018 No.11157547 >>11157543 Once and Future King is barely mentioned here for some reason. Not necessarily romantic but quite excellent.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 13:44:39 2018 No.11157570 >>11157473 Eh, Messiah introduced some things that I ended up liking in later books, like the Idaho gholas. But again, they were better executed in God Emperor.

Anonymous Tue May 15 13:50:41 2018 No.11157593

>>11157570
G-E was almost comedic gold. Imagine an endles string of failed gholas at first and Leto just killing them almost as soon as they arrive, the Tleilaxu ambassador a mess after Leto went through a dozen Duncans inside a Standard Year and a whole army of mentats checking mountains of ghola insurance documents.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 14:20:42 2018 No.11157690 >>11157386 Honestly there aren't that many good ones, especially in recent years. The last fantasy series I read with satisfying romance subplots was Codex Alera.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 14:25:30 2018 No.11157718 File: 633 KB, 1040x1600, HILD UK.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11156420 Hild

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 14:27:29 2018 No.11157726 any classic sci-fi about exploring/colonising a new world for the first time? sort of like people finding america when it was a wild frontier but cosmic version

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 14:29:35 2018 No.11157739 >>11157228 Yes, in 10-20years

Anonymous Tue May 15 14:30:28 2018 No.11157749

>>11157593
I like to think that at least a few Duncans died through simple mishaps. Tripping over and breaking his neck, not getting out of the way of Leto's cart quick enough, etc. I mean it's been going on for 3500 years, at least a few of those deaths will have been silly.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 14:30:53 2018 No.11157753 >>11154759 Vance is a hit or miss. He openly admitted that he wrote for money, so not all his stories are of the same quality.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 14:51:06 2018 No.11157867 Why are female authors so consistently bad? I'm not saying all of them are bad, but at least 97%.

Anonymous Tue May 15 15:28:51 2018 No.11158069
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>>11155975
Watts is definitely not going to be known as a 'great' author, but Blindsight was genuinely fantastic. It falls victim to a lot of scifi tropes and Watts has trouble writing dynamic scenes with a lot of action and movement, but his world building and exploration of ideas are both really enjoyable. Of course the actual idea behind Blindsight - that consciousness can be seen as a hindrance rather than a 'higher' function of more advanced creatures - is a load of rubbish (Watts even said he had convinced himself of this by the time he finished writing and editing), but it makes for interesting reading nonetheless.

Echopraxia was a good sidequel and in my opinion while the ideas being explored were not as thought provoking as in Blindsight, the actual plot was more enjoyable (though of course the characters weren't great and overall I'd rate Echopraxia slightly lower than Blindsight).

I think the vampires are done quite well. Enough explained and enough left unexplored to provide a good base for strong characters. The whole pseudo-mind control thing in Echopraxia was getting a bit ridiculous but I can accept it given how insanely smart vampires are meant to be.

I'm really looking forward to seeing how he'll wrap up the trilogy in the final book. Things are pretty dire for humans at this point. But I think that's what Watts is going for, in that the real struggle is between vampires and Rorschach, not humans and vampires/rorschach/transhuman collectives/anything else.

Warning major spoiler: Poor Valerie :( all she wanted was to have a conversation with someone as smart as she was and then Rorschach goes and does THAT to her. What a cunt, I hope Rorschach gets what's coming to him for skewering my vampire waifu.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 15:30:31 2018 No.11158081 >>11156541 book of the new sun best anime ever written,it's a shame book of the long sun is so mediocre compared to it anyone know if book of the short sun is worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 15:38:43 2018 No.11158126 >>11157386 BotNS

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 15:40:49 2018 No.11158139 >>11157726 See >>11157318

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 15:41:24 2018 No.11158146 >>11158126 This was suggested, anything else?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 15:41:50 2018 No.11158150 >>11157867 >implying more than 3% of male authors are good

Anonymous Tue May 15 15:43:19 2018 No.11158159

>>11157749
>it's a Duncan chokes on spice pudding episode
>it's a Duncan gets drunk and tries to show Leto this one trick he learned on Ginaz only to stab himself in the dick episode
>it's a Duncan has a heart attack while taking a massive shit episode
>it's a Duncan tries to do a threesome with Nayla 1.0 and another Fishspeaker and they accidentally break his ribs episode
>it's a Duncan thinks he's a tenor and starts singing ancient operas so Leto kills him out of mercy episode
>it's a Duncan gets high and tries to ride Leto the fremen way but he trips, falls and breaks his neck episode
>it's a Duncan pulls a Shinji and refuses to get out of the taxi to the Citadel so the Fishspeakers kill him episode

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 15:43:42 2018 No.11158160 >>11158150 This >100000 male authors >30 good ones >1000 female authors >1 good one Just due to numbers there is more likely to be better male authors.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 15:43:58 2018 No.11158165 >>11158146 just read it faggot, it's great official /lit/ (/sffg/) core >>11158139 cheers big ears where whomest I start?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 15:46:32 2018 No.11158181 >>11158165 >just read it faggot, it's great I might do it, but I want more classic, medieval fantasy.

Anonymous Tue May 15 15:47:58 2018 No.11158193

>>11157318
Tried reading The Moon is a Harsh Mistress but it was thoroughly uncompelling. The neologisms, moonslang and colloquialisms are impenetrable and not in an interesting way, but rather in a very tryhard kind of way. Moreover the characters are all very unlikable and weird. Why would I want to root for the protagonists when they're a bunch of polyamourous, incestuous paedophiles? How is the reader supposed to identify with them or want them to succeed when they're repellent to all normal sensibilities?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 15:48:44 2018 No.11158197 >>11158181 t. gaylord at least read the shadow of the torturer, it's basically medieval and the best love stuff is in the first book it's also only 300 pages so you can bang it out in a few hours

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 16:17:19 2018 No.11158356 based jap and weeaboo writers who use words like "pretentious" and "overbearing" all wrong

Anonymous Tue May 15 17:03:00 2018 No.11158605

I don't know if I like or dislike Urth of the New Sun
It's definitely different, but the Jesus allegory shit gets real heavy handed
I mean he meets a literal no shit self-admitted disciple of Christ
Think I preferred the little hints of it here and there in BotNS

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 17:42:35 2018 No.11158836 >>11158159 I'm ded

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 18:00:56 2018 No.11158925 File: 12 KB, 200x290, House_of_Suns.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11148629 Just finished House of Suns. It's a certified 99th percentile book as far as I'm concerned.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 18:20:16 2018 No.11159021 File: 504 KB, 1141x2048, miim.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11156541 Discworld, for me, personally, it's just very comfy.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 18:52:52 2018 No.11159197 File: 87 KB, 900x900, 1520717777120.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11150615 >I've been on the quitting path for a month now. I switched to vaping 1.5 years ago

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 20:03:13 2018 No.11159558 File: 430 KB, 1589x2500, illo_shadows_for_silence.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How many collected works of PKD are there? I am reading what I think is the 5th and this shit is long as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 21:05:48 2018 No.11159923 >protag is a monster that eats people >condemns certain humans for being "bigotted" and "non-egalitarian" When will libs all die?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 21:08:22 2018 No.11159939 >>11155488 Don't you have some more gender binary nebula award winners to fellate?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 21:08:40 2018 No.11159940 >>11159923 sounds like that shitty dyke novel i've seen on /u/

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 21:13:29 2018 No.11159965 >>11156420 I'm late to the party and she's not a main character but the female love interest in Legend is probably my favorite female character ever. She reminded me of my fiance before cancer killed her

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 21:47:03 2018 No.11160088 >>11156529 the physics in the books are so garbage that its impossible to enjoy them the economics of em too

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 22:00:13 2018 No.11160148 >>11154710 Just finished as well, can confirm its shit. I kept expecting it to pick up and then it was just over.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 22:04:36 2018 No.11160174 File: 2.44 MB, 7943x7943, Moon_South_Pole2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the Moon's pole looks way more interesting than the the face we normally see.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 22:25:35 2018 No.11160259 >>11156529 This just sounds like rothfuss but with tits

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 22:53:46 2018 No.11160397 File: 38 KB, 404x459, Pat-Rothfuss.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11160259 >but with tits

>>	Anonymous Tue May 15 23:40:41 2018 No.11160599 >>11153091 Man a shade of vampire 1-47 were shit, but 48 to 50 were actually quite good, I am glad I read them all.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 01:58:15 2018 No.11161202 >>11160174 >posting the moon's asshole Dude, I know I'm never going to have sex so could you please stop posting these reminders of what I'm never going to have?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 01:59:59 2018 No.11161211 >>11153091 It took this bitch less than 6 months to write 9 books...

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 02:39:00 2018 No.11161350 Currently reading The Three Body Problem Went in with 0 expectations and holy shit, I didn't expect ANY of what has happened

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 02:40:23 2018 No.11161358 >>11158925 Is it anything like Revenger? I tried reading that and holy shit I fucking hated it and refunded it within the first few chapters Alternatively, should I give Revenger another chance? It struck me as neo-steampunk garbage

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 02:50:13 2018 No.11161406 >>11161358 house of suns is a female protagonist book

Anonymous Wed May 16 02:55:59 2018 No.11161427

>>11158069
>all she wanted was to have a conversation with someone as smart as she was and then Rorschach goes and does THAT to her.
Literally as soon as she made a primitive, human-like flawed expression of desires and pretty clear "conscious behaviour" the Portia in Bruks deems her as unworthy and gets Bruks to kill her. Val brought it on herself.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 03:07:08 2018 No.11161455 >>11161406 I don't give a shit

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 03:09:17 2018 No.11161464 >>11161455 t. feminister

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 03:11:17 2018 No.11161470 File: 131 KB, 743x288, throne-of-glass-series-banner.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone else reading this gem?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 03:16:56 2018 No.11161490 >>11161406 will you fags leave already

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 03:18:52 2018 No.11161496 Hey all, I have just started reading the second book of the Book of the New Sun, by Gene Wolfe, and up to now I find it great. Have you read it? Do you think I should go ahead and check the rest of the Solar Cycle?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 03:23:39 2018 No.11161513 File: 43 KB, 587x663, 1526455419574.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11156459 >I thought the Three Body Trilogy protag introduced later on in the series was quite enjoyable

Anonymous Wed May 16 03:31:07 2018 No.11161545
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>>11158069
>consciousness can be seen as a hindrance rather than a 'higher' function of more advanced creatures
Okay, I knew this was ebin twist takeaway from Blindsight, but I was left unsure what the big fat message in Echopraxia was; Something to do with religion, right?

Anonymous Wed May 16 03:36:02 2018 No.11161559

>>11161358
Revenger seems to be Reynolds' only book that tries to be young adult, even though he doesn't get all the YA tropes right. It is a bad first Reynolds book as it is different from all the others. But I don't think it's neo-steampunk garbage, the sci-fi concepts underneath do start to show after a while, even when the book tries to be newcomer friendly and uses terms like "lungstuff" when referring to breathable atmosphere, and swallowers in regards to miniature black holes that provide gravity to small planetoids. The book does ramp up towards the end though.
I'd say try House of Suns, or some other standalone of his, if you are interested in good sci-fi.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 03:57:02 2018 No.11161618 >>11161496 Read BotNS and UotNS if you want more explanations The others are not essential Read them if you like Wolfe a lot

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 04:08:11 2018 No.11161653 >>11161618 Yeah, I know that they are not essential. I'm just asking if it is worth reading them, because I'm enjoying a lot the BotNS (up to now at least).

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 06:01:22 2018 No.11161913 >reading a book >fairly standard academy fantasy >then the main character has a period and decides to get her womb removed ahah what the fuck

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 06:28:35 2018 No.11161983 >>11161513 oh yeah she fucked it but it was nice to have a really just shitty protag for once

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 06:30:11 2018 No.11161989 >>11161545 basically the universe is a simulation and life is either a virus therefore the universe needs to wipe us out, or we're normal and the virus is the efforts to wipe us out or some bollocks it's a pretty intense book

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 06:44:13 2018 No.11162025 >>11154693 Loved the spider logic. Like, of course you encode an image in a spiral around the center. How else would you do it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 06:54:37 2018 No.11162041 >>11161496 Book of the long sun is neat but nowhere near as good, especially book 3 which i’m struggling to finish

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 08:03:13 2018 No.11162147 New thread >>11162145 >>11162145 >>11162145 >>11162145

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 08:34:25 2018 No.11162199 >>11162041 Why struggling? Is it that boring?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 09:39:21 2018 No.11162369 >>11158193 >isn't an incest lovin degenerate Fucking normies should be purged

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