/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11341185]

Is poetry dead?

[Anonymous No.11341196]

why u do such a thing, fren?

[Anonymous No.11341198]

>>11341185
it's actually coming back, just a really shitty version

[Anonymous No.11341203]

wyh u do thet? ;-;

[Anonymous No.11341224]

>>11341185
it will outlive (you)

[Anonymous No.11342329]

>>11341185
>grinding pistachios
gay

[Anonymous No.11342348]

>>11341196
>>11341203
fuck you love doesn't exist all frogs must be crushed

[Anonymous No.11342355]

im keeping it alive

[Anonymous No.11342393]

It evolved, but became shittier

[Anonymous No.11342822]

>>11341198
>>11342393
Referring to the likes of Kaur, I assume.

[Anonymous No.11342876]

>>11342822
mmmm sweaty, kaur saved poetry

[Anonymous No.11342936]

>>11342876
Kaur is shit but I can't explain why

[Anonymous No.11342990]

>>11342936
That's not a Kaur poem you moron lel

[Anonymous No.11342995]

>>11342990
No I know but it prompted me to make that post

[Anonymous No.11343015]

>>11342876
>mmmm sweaty

[Anonymous No.11343027]

>>11342876
>Actually uses rhyme
Definitely not Rupi

[Anonymous No.11343082]

>>11342995
Oh
Well, her poetry is shit because her themes are banal and pandering to dumb tumblr women. Her bland, cheap, self-help-tier thoughts are presented in the most uninteresting, prosaic and blatant way imaginable. The line breaks are used with very little art and purpose, they're just mechanically separating the prose into smaller semantic units (they're not utterly random) instead of being in dialogue with them or doing anything interesting, really.
I remember being actually touched by one of her poems. The rawness and simplicity was affecting me. But then I read the end of the poem with the most blatant conclusion imaginable. As if it was written for idiots who need everything spelled out to them instead of leaving something to the reader, some mystique or anything for me to do. She treats the reader as if they are braindead.

Look at this shit
http://www1.pictures.livingly.com/mp/d7tYH2oaf4al.jpg
>the show must go on, said the sun
You really have to have zero self-awareness to use this sentence unironically. I could also see it used by Nicanor Parra, the highly regarded Chilean "antipoet", but he'd use it ironically, subvert and destroy it and then give the reader space to find meaning in something that isn't a cliche of modern life, he'd want you to explore yourself and your surroundings further. Rupi Kaur doesn't want that, she just wants you to feel nice and happy with predigested platitudes.
Nicanor Parra - Warnings

In case of fire
do not use elevators
use stairways
unless otherwise instructed

No smoking
No littering
No shitting
No radio playing
unless otherwise instructed

Please Flush Toilet
After Each Use
Except When Train
Is Standing At Station
Be thoughtful
Of The Next Passenger

Onward Christian Soldiers
Workers of the World unite
we have nothing to loose but our life
Glory to the Father
& to the Son
& to the Holy Ghost
unless otherwise instructed

By the way
we also hold these truths to be self evident
that all man are created equal
that they have been endowed by their creator
with certain inalienable rights
that among these are: Life
Liberty
& the pursuit of happiness

& last but not least
that 2 + 2 makes 4
unless otherwise instructed

[Anonymous No.11343088]

Modern (really post modern) poetry is total crap because there hasn’t been enough time for the good stuff to bubble to the surface. Everyone’s putting out their simplistic political drivel that’s going to be completely forgotten in five minutes, but in the moment, it’s hard to watch people tie themselves in knots to praise it.

[Anonymous No.11343109]

>>11343088
>Everyone’s putting out their simplistic political drivel
Who, beside Kaur?

[Anonymous No.11343144]

I don't think so bro, but only time will say. What do you understand by dead? And poetry? Ultimately it is relatively subjective to you

[Anonymous No.11343772]

>>11343082
That poem you posted also seems like complete shit

[Anonymous No.11343862]

>>11343082
I blame TS Eliot and Ginsberg for that shitty non-poem. Eliot was himself great and Ginsberg alright at times but their descendants are just awful. They paved the way for “bunch of loosely related sentence fragments and jingles with an edgy feeling linking them together let’s slap a title on it and break it up into lines and call it a poem”

[Anonymous No.11343864]

>>11343082
I blame TS Eliot and Ginsberg for that shitty non-poem. Eliot was himself great and Ginsberg alright at times but their descendants are just awful. They paved the way for “bunch of loosely related sentence fragments and jingles with an edgy feeling linking them together let’s slap a title on it and break it up into lines and call it a poem”

Or maybe:

bunch of loosely
related sentence fragments
and jingles with
an edgy feeling
linking them together

let’s slap a title on it and
break it up into lines and
call it a
poem

[Anonymous No.11343867]

>>11343862
>Chan, a Poem
Anon posted in his murmured state
He became irate
The wildflowers bloomed
With the harshness of high noon
All for you my dear

I'll take my book deal with Kaur now

[Anonymous No.11343869]

>>11341185
Poetry evolves. It's your fault you can't keep up.

[Anonymous No.11343926]

>>11341185
>Is poetry dead?
Not entirely.
https://4poet.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.11344042]

>>11341185
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

And no it's not dead, dumb froghater.

[Anonymous No.11344462]

>>11342876
I can't write poetry but God damn can rupi not write poetry either. She's like pretentious Shel Silverstein but with more fame because she is a non-white nonman when that's the big fad

[Anonymous No.11344469]

>>11344462
you know that her work is god awful when it's hard to tell the difference between her real stuff and parodies

[Anonymous No.11344563]

>>11343772
If you can't tell the difference between Rupi Kaur and Nicanor Parra I really don't know what to say.

[Anonymous No.11344753]

>>11341185
We'll probably see a resurgence in poetic forms and adherence to strict metre and tonality.

It's going to be fun watching all those hack poets like Rupi try and fail to catch up.

[Anonymous No.11344798]

>>11344753
Nah. Try actually exploring the contemporary production. Nobody is preventing anyone from writing in classical forms, and some poets indeed are using them and expanding upon them, but overall it is an uncommon thing and there seems to be no sign of the situation changing (beside your fantasies).
Do you visit /pol/? This delusional optimism is something I'd expect from someone who does.
Also, tonality is a musical and not a poetic element.

[Anonymous No.11344836]

>>11344798
Nobody wants to read the nth copy of Bukowski's style with shitty enjambment and free verse.

Most of these """poets""" can't even write in form. To break the rules you must first know them by heart, these are just pseuds that woke up one day and decided to smear the world with their bowel movements.

[Anonymous No.11344881]

>>11341185
Lyrics in songs is a form of poetry and it is flourishing.

[Anonymous No.11344970]

>>11344836
>Nobody wants to read the nth copy of Bukowski's style with shitty enjambment and free verse.
Yet Rupi Kaur is selling like hotcakes, and many better poets are getting by too.

>To break the rules you must first know them by heart,
Says who? You're treating rules and poetry as if it is something god knows how vague and mystical, as if writing in regular verse gave Whitman some arcane knowledge that he then applied to free verse. That's not how things work. The visual aspect of poetry is now stressed and more versatile, the rhythmic tools are more varied and poets can use them ad libitum. Knowing how to write iambic pentameters is irrelevant for all intents and purposes beyond writing iambic pentameters.

Look, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. You're imagining some incoming conservative, traditionalist revolution, but most of these new conservatives are just shitposting on pol instead of contributing or shaping the culture in any substantial way. I'd be glad if more conservatives entered the cultural playfield, it'd possibly create some very interesting dialogue, but nobody is actually doing anything beyond endlessly complaining about Kaur and slam poetry.

[Anonymous No.11345002]

>>11344970
>plebs buy pleb poetry in droves
>that means its good

How midwit of you.

[Anonymous No.11345019]

>>11341185
That image made me legitimately sad.

[Anonymous No.11345133]

>>11345002
>>that means its good
Nice job, making up things that I didn't say, moving the goalposts and ignoring nearly everything I wrote. That will surely bring us a renaissance of poetry.

[Anonymous No.11345190]

>>11342876
>welcome to you're "doom"
yikes

[Anonymous No.11345195]

>>11341185
That blender looks like Homestar Runner

[Anonymous No.11345206]

>>11341185
Yes
al other artforms were rendered obsolete with the creation of videogames