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What's the most degenerate work of literature produced by enlightened humanists?

>> No.11460297

It's gotta be something by the French. I was reading Karl Reinhold recently and he was talking about the application of Scottish common sense philosophy in Germany and France, and he said, in Germany among real philosophers it has been mostly salutary because it has pulled them away from navel-gazing rationalism, back into obvious facts of consciousness like the reality of perception and empirical experience, and thereby cleared the ground for real philosophy. But in France, it has become a justification for all kinds of godless social engineering, nihilism, complete disrespect for human freedom, self-respect and freedom. Similarly when Humboldt visited France ca. 1800 he said that they have no sense whatsoever of a "self," it's a purely mechanistic conception of human life.

If you actually read French Enlightenment philosophy, it's bewilderingly bad. They have no sense of the individual whatsoever. All of their philosophy is premised on the idea that humans are just generated from sense perceptions, that the only purpose of life is "harmonious" living that maximises happiness between humans in a society. So naturally, all the philosophy is concerned with is how we should engineer humans to be the best termites possible. It's unbelievably degenerate. Pleasure, libertinism, no higher virtues or values. It's prototype Americanism.

>> No.11460302

>>11460272
Did they paint themselves as zombies to represent the effects of sodomy and IV drug use induced AIDS?

>> No.11460305

>>11460297
Except that France has always had an incredibly rich tradition of conservative and reactionary thought that exists to this day.

>> No.11460316

>>11460305
Name 6 influential thinkers

>> No.11460339

>>11460272
these folks look like they're having a good time, what are you up to OP?

>> No.11460340

>>11460302
I'm really beginning to hate them.

>> No.11460350

>>11460272
whatever it is, it's nowhere near as "degenerate" as the works created by religious people

>> No.11460355

>>11460339
>a good time
they look barely sapient

>> No.11460356

>>11460339
It's not OP. OP has always been OP. You're the reason why they're becoming insufferable.

>>11460350
What about works created by feminists pretending to be religious fascists?

>> No.11460363

>>11460356
>feminists pretending to be religious fascists?
can you name a few?

>> No.11460374

>>11460363
Margaret Atwood

>> No.11460376

>>11460356
I don't quite understand what you mean by that.

>> No.11460380

>>11460355
You don't have to be 100% sapient to have a good time chica

>> No.11460382

>>11460376
I'm guessing you're an establishment liberal, correct?

>> No.11460383

>>11460374
explain in what way margaret atwood "pretends to be a religious fascist"

>> No.11460389

>>11460382
nope I'm just a lad surrounded by his plants drinking a beer in his room. Do you have a political slot ready especially for me?

>> No.11460394

>>11460350
Well tipped, fellow ledditor

>> No.11460402 [DELETED] 

>>11460389
Just want you to know that this is a redpill board. We are against liberalism and for traditional values (keeping our countries white and women in the kitchen)

>> No.11460406

>>11460383
She imagines what would happen to unruly women in a world where a shadowy, poorly defined fascist/extremely religious faction took over the country. She writes about gratuitous rape under the pretense of warning women what would happen if the boogeyman came into power. She's not intelligent enough to imagine how exactly this world comes to be, but she can imagine the gratuitous rape - for my benefit, of course.

>> No.11460409 [DELETED] 

>>11460406
Based and redpilled. I love reading about women being raped

>> No.11460415

my diary desu

>> No.11460418

>>11460302
The homosexual lifestyle is a culture of death and they recognize it.

>> No.11460420

>>11460402
Wrong. This is a board for followers of Ted. Women won't be in the kitchen because they'll be picking berries and being in a constant state of pregnancy which only some of them will survive. I'm not quite sure if I'm being ironic or not desu

>> No.11460435

>>11460409
Then you and many liberal feminists share a common interest.

>> No.11460436

>>11460316
It's hard to do this for any country when you ask specifically for conservative.

>> No.11460441

>>11460420
Either way I hope someone kicks you right in the face.

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>>11460402
>>11460420
I'm ok with either of these outcomes.

>> No.11460448

>>11460441
This is an 18 plus board. Get the fuck out

>> No.11460453
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>>11460297
>They have no sense of the individual whatsoever
>It's prototype Americanism.

How many layers of irony does it take to think like this

>> No.11460459

>>11460447
I'm not. Shut the fuck up, you fucking pansies jumping in on any conversation where any liberal has been half-whipped. Stick to inseminating your pillow. Fucking Mommy-issues-having canon-fodder fuck boys.

>> No.11460464

>>11460453
How many layers of (((""""((("""democracy"""))))"""))) do you have to be on to think that Americans are in any way or form authentically individual?
>t. american

>> No.11460465

>>11460406
>pretends to be a religious fascist
>imagines a world ruled by religious fascists
these are not synonymous

>>11460394
idiot

>> No.11460468
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>>11460464
>How many layers of (((""""((("""democracy"""))))"""))) do you have to be on to think that Americans are in any way or form authentically individual?
>>t. american

>> No.11460470

>>11460459
liberals and materialist conservatives like yourself are two sides of the same coin.

>> No.11460483

>>11460459
I told you I'm just a lad sitting among plants drinking beer, what makes you think I'm liberal? That I said they look like they're having a good time?

You sound like you need a lay. I know a few farmers with a good sow or two who are ripe for the purpose. Should I give them a call? Whats your phone number?

>> No.11460491

>>11460459
You sound very angry. Is that a DSLR or SLR canon?

>> No.11460498

>>11460272
i'd let the one with the gold eyeshadow and crimped hair(/wig) on the right of the picture fuck me

>> No.11460501

>>11460498
Kill yourself faggot

>> No.11460505

>>11460470
I'm an independent.

>>11460465
She has to pretend to be a religious fascist in order to imagine a world ruled by religious fascists...part of using one's imagination is pretending to be other people. Although her not doing this probably explains why a lot of this world makes absolutely no sense. It's not a well thought-out dystopia like 1984 or Brave New World. It's "tasteful" hardcore porn. It's meant to allow liberal people a guilt-free way to stroke one out to the degradation of unruly women while still keeping their feminist card. Fuck you.

>>11460483
>>11460491
You two should date.

>> No.11460509
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11460509

Boy this sure is a thread about literature
anyway, i would say that 120 days of sodom is pretty degenerate

>> No.11460512

>>11460272
>dump trump for his islamophobia and racism
I'm all for palestine and don't have anything against islam as long as it stays in it's homeland, but I just appreciate the irony. Wonder how long they would last in most majority muslim countries before being stoned or otherwise executed?

>> No.11460514

>>11460505
>I'm an independent.
how gay

>> No.11460515

>>11460514
I think he might actually be a boomer-aged boomer

>> No.11460522

>>11460505
>She has to pretend to be a religious fascist in order to imagine a world ruled by religious fascists
well yes of course. i once wrote a story where the main character was a surgeon so i pretended to be a surgeon. i'd carried out 4 hip replacements and an anterior cruciate ligament reconstruction before i was found out.

>> No.11460525

>>11460505
>I'm an independent.
>no one can prove me wrong if I don't take a position Xddd
Fence sitters are the biggest pseuds.

>> No.11460526

>>11460509
i was thinking the same thing.

>> No.11460528

>>11460522
You couldn't just imagine yourself as a surgeon, you fucking piss-poor pedant?

>> No.11460529

>>11460501
he might be a she, you should know better than to assume genders Maybelline

>> No.11460531

>>11460302
It’s like they want to be disgusting. I can’t imagine how it would feel to be a non-fag variety gay

>> No.11460533

>>11460529
How would she fuck him?

>> No.11460540

>>11460533
tenderly

>> No.11460542

>>11460540
I was asking in what method. Not as to how gentle she would fuck him.

>> No.11460545

>>11460528
well no according to >>11460505 in order to imagine a thing you have to pretend to be that thing
my next book is going to be about polar explorers so i'm stocking up on fake snow to spray onto my beard in preparation
i've got some crampons too

>> No.11460546 [DELETED] 

bib bib bicu bicu big man jeans apron velho chest machine poopy diarrhea smell stinky xd dog eat my poopoo

poopy pants
diaper smell

schoolhouse 1st grade xd xd stinky bib rotten diarrhea in pants xdd play with furry pet hamster balls diarrhea on hamster xdd teacher smell poop in my big man pants xd sent to principal office principal smell poop i poop in face xdddddd

play with smelly poop mom toys!!!!!!!!!!!! bib bicu bicu diaper diarrhea smelly stinky xdd dirty shirt diaper leak full of stinking diarrhea xddd sprey poop on tv xdd eat pet goldfish lol

xddd daddy smell pee in big fat poop diaper lol like big babby smell xd

eat pooopy mom food!!! sniff dinner plate xd poop on table xdd diarrhea on mom shirt xddddd like binky babby big big bicu xd lol

xddddd diaper stinking in bed xddd wear big man jeans full of rotten stink poop xddd lol like babby leak xdd on apron like velho chest stinky poop machine lol

stinky stinky poop on dog face xddd dog eat my weenie xddd

play with furry pet dog butt xdd poop on dog face barf sniff like great big babby fart xd

binky babby fat poop diaper lol mom smell poo in diaper xdd change diaper diarrhea explode in face xxddddd mom cries like big babby poop on daddy face lol xd

binky babby food like big man smell xdd hike poop on blackberries like velho chestmachine poopy diaper on trail xd dad change on cow i poop cow xdddddd diarrhea stinking beans fart xdddddddddddddd

balls in diaper xdd sweaty balls full of stinky poop diaper leak xdd poop in bed ruin covers xdddd

stinky pooop xddd poop in recess kids run away xddd rub poop on teacher big stinky babby fart lol poopy pants full of stinky diarrhea

xd toilet paper stuck in butt xddd covered stinky rotten poop xddd like babby smell velho xd poopy pants in big man jeans xdd underwear diaper leak stinky smelly poopy diarrhea lol

>> No.11460554

>>11460501
no u

>> No.11460556

>>11460546
Who revved him up?

>> No.11460561

>degenerate

sup virgin

>> No.11460568

>>11460561
>being a virgin is bad
t. Roastwhore

>> No.11460571

>>11460542
Sex isn't a method its an accrued practice relying on emotion and instinct friend. However they saw fit, so long as it was mutually pleasurable.

>> No.11460597

>>11460568
Wouldn't you want to breed asap if you were adamant about securing the whitey race? Woah!

>> No.11460642

>>11460339
They really don't desu desu famalampai

>> No.11460657

>>11460525
A better greentext would be
>Nobody can strawman me with shitty stereotypes if a don't take a well defined school of thought because my attacker lacks strong critical thinking

>> No.11460689

>>11460464
Maybe learn SOMETHING about the history of the United States before saying something so incredibly stupid.

>> No.11460693

>>11460657
were you the dude calling the other dude a liberal?

>> No.11460695

>>11460597
All women are whores and I need a pure 100% white virgin blue eyed Nordic Godess to carry my children.

>> No.11460702

>>11460316
Chateaubriand
De Maistre
Bonald

is three

>> No.11460713
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11460713

Have we reached peak decadence yet? Why do you think cuck became such a popular phrase? It’s not about the sexual fetish so much as it is about a fundamental rewriting in how humans interact with the world starting 50 years ago when TVs became popular. We are now reaching peak cuckoldry where we derive increasing amounts of pleasure from WATCHING others do things. We now watch others play video games, watch others eat, watch others fuck, watch others become rich. This is only the logical conclusion, we’ve removed every layer and now directly give people money just so they can have more money.

>> No.11460723

>>11460713
>we

>> No.11460763

>>11460356
>>11460642
>people don't do these nonsensical shit for fun
This level of cope lmao

>> No.11460765

>>11460713
samuel pepys' diary has references to cuckolding, it's not a new word
but its endless repetition on here is irritating

>> No.11460773

>>11460441
Shouldn't you be tweeting about punching Nazis on twitter with the other trannies?

>> No.11460780

>>11460568
keep coping rather than copuling lmao

>> No.11460811

>>11460561
>>11460780
people who use virgin as an insult don't have kids and aren't married, so whatever sex they might be having is nothing to be proud of

>> No.11460844

>>11460713
cuckold is referenced in like every shakespeare play anon i'm sure people felt the same way back then too

>> No.11460854

>>11460501
I gurantee you get zero pussy

>> No.11460858

>>11460811
Woah...

>> No.11460860

>>11460854
that's not an insult

>> No.11460868

>>11460860
Sure it isn’t, champ. I’m sure you’ll pop your cherry whenever you feel ready.

>> No.11460873

>>11460713

>Why do you think cuck became such a popular phrase?

Because of Sweden initially being memed on by /int/. As the alt-right phenomena began to crystallize, it became associated with anything leftist. Though the term has developed into an almost Freudian control mechanism, where people on the right even use ''cucking out'' as a pejorative for a member not being extreme enough.

The phrase and its popularity has nothing to do with your speculation. *Vicarious experience* has nothing psychologically in common with anything resembling cuckoldry, either as an abstracted concept or fetish.

Though everything you posted is a reality, and has been accelerating into more absurd forms as technology and capitalism advance.

>> No.11460913

>/pol/fags who are addicted to the internet, pornography, videogames, soda and sugar calling anyone else degenerate

SHADILAY BROTHER, PRAISE KEKISTAN

>> No.11460925

>>11460695
This but unironically

>> No.11460930

>>11460913
Kill yourself faggot. At least we strive for better

>> No.11460941

>>11460339
>having a good time is justification for their actions and impact on society

>> No.11460945
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>>11460868
>unironically typing this and hitting post

>> No.11460958

>>11460930
In what way? By crying about other degenerates not conforming to your idealised image of society? You're in no right to make demands and cast judgements if you don't live the life yourself.

>> No.11460963

>>11460713
>enjoying watching others do things is cuckoldry
I guess the Greeks watching socrates' lectures were a bunch of cucks

>> No.11460979

>>11460873
I still say pussy, because it's the "insult I know". Old habits and all that.

>> No.11461004

>>11460930
if you're gonna start bettering yourself you could start by typing something more intelligent

>> No.11461033

>>11460297
What the fuck?

I'm French, read majority French lit, and this is not the case.

>> No.11461034

>>11460941
>impact on society
oh noe the fags are really fucking up my life.

>> No.11461041

>>11460930
Sure if by ‘striving’ you mean ‘sitting on your ass at home, complaining about Buzzfeed, and using the word “degenerate” ten times a day.’ GOOD WORK PAL.

>> No.11461076

>>11460941
oh wowzers oh noh I can't read my books anymore because I'm blinded by their rainbows and want my khildren to be able to see in black and white

>> No.11461128

>>11460272
desu a lot of those people look pretty cool. I especially like the pink lady liberty.

>> No.11461304

>>11460693
no

>> No.11461363

Just because they have odd tastes doesn't mean they are bad people.

>> No.11461383

>>11461363
>odd tastes
Odd tastes would be drinking pickle juice or watching ASMR-Videos, not parading you degeneracy through every major city in the west.

>> No.11461391

>>11460272
anything by Chuck Palahniuk or Irvine Welsh

>> No.11461483

>>11461383
So its normal?

>> No.11461628

>>11460420
>constant state of pregnancy
Classic primitivist, doesn't know anything about primitive societies. This is how you go extinct.

>> No.11461638

>>11460963
>>11460868
Very American posts.

>> No.11461660

>>11460272
Wetlands

>> No.11461667

>>11460272
Girl With the Dragon Tattoo. It's original Swedish title is Men Who Hate Women. A story about a super smart, super cool, rebellious hacker feminist dyke who uses her superior smarts and skills to battle a patriarchal neo-Nazi capitalist conspiracy to rape women. Yes, a book written by a Swede about how evil white Nazis are raping Swedish women. Let the irony sink in. Suffice to say, this book is loved by left-wingers.

>> No.11461879

>>11460297
>It's prototype Americanism
No not really. You need to read pic related.

>> No.11461887
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11461887

>>11461879
Shit I swear i posted the picture

>> No.11461916

>>11461887
More like
heheh
hehehehehe
Himmelfart
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>> No.11461947

Why are Americans so dumb

>> No.11461954

>>11460272
Probs Daudet or Zola. Nordeau got the name in, but Zola especially got the idea into millions of housewifes and future cuckholds' minds as an inevitable progression. Sade and Réage might be in the running too, but like >>11460297 says, you can bet money it's French.

>> No.11461989

>>11460272
>protest trump
>a bunch of faggots show up and take over the event
These people really are incapable of not making everything about themselves aren’t they?

>> No.11462078

>>11461989
Thread derailment is a serious issue.

>> No.11462186

>>11461383
stop saying degeneracy

>> No.11462194

>>11461989
zzzzzz

>> No.11462241

>>11462186
Why? It's perfectly descriptive.

>> No.11462250
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>>11462241
no it's literally the opposite of descriptive
It's a vague blanket term that can be summed up to "thing i don't like".

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>>11461034
>i am the society
the level of audacity in this post

>> No.11462278

>>11462250
For something to be degenerate it means it detracts from the cultural good. If your problem with the word is that it doesn't explain why that is so or what it means to be good then you're being irrational because no single word is capable doing that.

>> No.11462282

>>11462278
Would you describe homosexuality as degenerate?

>> No.11462286

>>11462268
God, I miss demo

>> No.11462287

>>11460316
Guenon, also. The French have been at the intellectual forefront - at least conceptually - since the terminus of the Renaissance. You could also look at any of the Romantics and their immediate circles; everyone who sat in Satie's group of friends. Much of that period's famous people laid the foundation of what became German reaction and, later, fascism: rejection of the Christianized West, mysticism, symbolism, etc.

You can look the names up and connect the threads yourself; I've given you enough information to begin a journey and I refuse to tell you what you should think at the end.

>> No.11462293

>>11462282
In itself, no. The homosexual lifestyle or hookup culture and constant drug use that surrounds the gay community is.

>> No.11462304

>>11462293
So the tangible effects of its repression bother you.

>> No.11462310

>>11462282
it does not matter for something that fits into a description how anon describes it
stop being a faggot and get straight to the point

>> No.11462312

>>11462304
I don't know what you're talking about.

>> No.11462342

>>11462293
>>11462310
Well the lifestyle was VERY similar to that of when the greeks and romans indulged in homosexual acts in a constant state of hedonism, and we consider their culture to be of the partisan kind, thus contributing to the cultural good.
Then we have high art that supports the homosexual lifestyle. Take for example The literary classic Moby Dick, which is FULL of sexual innuendos of homoerotic acts and yet is a pinnacle of literature, contributing to the cultural good.
>reddit space to seperate my points
This sort of close examination can literally be done with ANYTHING you would consider degenerate; pedophilia, crossdressing, drug use, and adultery to name a few
Look, it's okay if you don't like things and that some things people do rub you the very wrong way, but to say that they are a danger is mind-numbingly retarded. I don't agree with transgender people or gender issues being a viable issue to be taken seriously, but i also don't think they are a threat to civil order.

>> No.11462369

>>11462342
>Muh Greeks and Romans.

I'm so tired of this ahistorical nonsense. They were not the gay utopia you people like to pretend they are and even if they were it's not a reason to believe such behavior is good or worth tolerating right now

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>>11462369
Like i said you don't have to like it, just don't pretend society will implode if people start taking it up the butt

>> No.11462375

>>11462369
Woah this is an EXCELLENT counterargument

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>>11460418
>homosexual lifestyle is a culture of death
Yes it is
https://youtu.be/gNMREU_CxCc
Snuff Puppets - Andy Freer - Artistic Director

>> No.11462383

>>11462374
Who is saying society is going to explode if gay people exist?

>> No.11462395

>>11460272
>We demand to be taken seriously

>> No.11462396

>>11462383
i said implode, and you are saying that people fucking each other in the butt and advertising it to everyone is harmful. While i'll admit it's gross i'm not going to pretend that this is harming society in any way.

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>>11462342
>Well the lifestyle was VERY similar to that of when the greeks and romans indulged in homosexual acts in a constant state of hedonism, and we consider their culture to be of the partisan kind, thus contributing to the cultural good.
>we
>holding a culture in high remark=/=thinking literally everything that comes from it is good

>Then we have high art that supports the homosexual lifestyle. Take for example The literary classic Moby Dick, which is FULL of sexual innuendos of homoerotic acts and yet is a pinnacle of literature
>moby dick
>pinnacle of literature

>This sort of close examination can literally be done with ANYTHING you would consider degenerate; pedophilia, crossdressing, drug use, and adultery
no you cant

>> No.11462405

>>11462397
you can't cherrypick culture, and moby dick is objectively one of the best pieces of literature to exist.
I could but i won't because i'm going to go make a sandwich now

>> No.11462428

>>11462405
>you can't cherrypick culture
yes you can, but that wasnt my point.
if you ask people that have good opinions on roman and greek culture why they hold such opinions i am sure they wont answer you "because of the homosexual references" unless they are literally faggots
>and moby dick is objectively one of the best pieces of literature to exist.
nice to know you are the ultimate authority to go to on issues of literature

>> No.11462429

>>11462396
Oh the gay lifestyle is not harming society at all? What about the very existence and spread of AIDS and all the cost that comes from it. All of the innocent dead people, the healthcare costs, all the diverted research money that has gone into treating it. Gays are a constant danger to the nations blood supply because anal sex is an incredible disease vector. I don't even need to get into the radically disproportionate drug use and child molestation perpetuated by hypersexual gay men because that's enough to show there is some harm to society.

We don't live by ourselves in a vacuum.

>> No.11462437

>>11462429
explain why gay women are not a high risk group re HIV
they also have a "gay lifestyle", ya know

>> No.11462454

>>11462437
>"lesbos dont have high risk of getting HIV"
wow you sure showed that bigot by addressing his argument

>> No.11462466

>>11462437
Gay women aren't a high risk group for AIDS but they can contribute by spreading the gay philosophy. Either way it's irrelevant to the argument that was made. The existence of a nondestructive subgroup in one aspect wouldn't negate the existence of a destructive majority.

>> No.11462478

>>11462312
Yes you do.

>> No.11462484

>>11462437
>>11462466
Also, if you want to talk about gay women we can do that. They have a widely disproportionate rate of domestic violence and of course like all gays, they have problems with mental illness and they certainly the love their drugs. Their home life is very dysfunctional with the majority of long term lesbian couples suffering from what's called "bed death" which is when they stop engaging in intimacy.

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>>11462429
To be fair AIDS got rid of Foucault
Jokes aside the AIDS problem is laughable these day, similar to how syphilis was scary but is not a joke to modern science
Also don't pretend that gays are only pedophiles when we have the catholic church playing cave explorer with the choir boys.
The "biological" danger that homosexuality can posses is very minute considering that we have literal doomsday weapons. And as for healthcare, a greater strain on it is simply obesity rather than STDs or even cancer

>> No.11462493

>>11462454
???
it's true tho
the highest risk groups for HIV are:
-male to male sexual contact (about two thirds)
-heterosexual contact with someone who already has HIV (over a quarter)
-intravenous drug users who share needles (most of the rest)
gay women live a gay lifestyle but don't even make the chart

>>11462466
gay women aren't a "subgroup" they are half of all gay people

>> No.11462505

>>11462478
I really don't. I don't know why you're skeptical, you just randomly started about the "the tangible effects of its repression." What effects and who is being repressed and how?

>>11462493
>gay women aren't a "subgroup" they are half of all gay people

They literally are though. Female is a subgroup of the category human and lesbian is a subgroup of the gay category. The size of a subgroup is irrelevant to it's status as a subgroup.

>> No.11462507

>>11462484
>which is when they stop engaging in intimacy.
yes that never happens to heterosexual couples

>> No.11462516

>>11462507
Normally, it doesn't. When it does we call that a dysfunction. Among lesbians it is pretty much a guarantee that they will suffer it.

>> No.11462545

>>11460415
works every time

>> No.11462547

>>11460941
>impact on society
Wait, shouldn't you be happy about gays getting aids? Or is their "impact on society" you having to cope with gays existing somewhere.

>> No.11462554

>>11462516
You must be referring to the latest national survey published by the Department of Lesbians.

>> No.11462555

>>11462547
Its them promulgating their superficial pointless lifestyle to everyone else. They literally hold parades for this shit

>> No.11462572

>>11462555
They should go door-to-door instead, like normal people.

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>>11462555
>promulgating their superficial pointless lifestyle to everyone else. They literally hold parades for this shit
there are plenty of other groups of people that have stupid fucking parades

>> No.11462576

>>11462572
Exactly. Kindly fuck off all of you

>> No.11462582

>>11462574
Also mental midget dipshits

>> No.11462600

>>11462555
They have parades? Oh my god its worse than I thought!

>> No.11462621

Gay """culture""" is strange.

>> No.11462628

>>11462600
>we have zero effect on society
>but let us take over cities with parades and inject our propaganda in classrooms

Another case of faggots being disingenous liars. Reminder faggot literally means the sticks we used to burn you with you fucking faggot

>> No.11462640
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We don't hurt anyone.

>> No.11462663

>>11462640
Indoctrination of children? Don't be ridiculous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gHVZozvkHU

>> No.11462695

>>11462628
>take over cities with parades
You're such a melodramatic faggot
>Reminder faggot literally means the sticks we used to burn you with you fucking faggot
I'm not actually gay, dude, I'm just capable of empathy and reason because I'm actually a human being, unlike the subhuman savage you are. But by all means, go and ahead and try to burn me alive. I'd be more than happy to turn your head into modern art with a few 115gr JHPs.

>> No.11462718

>>11462695
People are allowed to ignore their own capacity for empathy. I do it daily.

>> No.11462814

>>11462695
Tactical empathy and virtue-signaling.

>> No.11462832

>>11462695
You have absolutely no reason to care about faggot any more than cockroaches. Both lead thoroughly worthless lives with the only difference being cockroaches process waste and residues of shit while gays just create more of it

>> No.11462990

>>11460713
are you genuinely this fucking illiterate? people used to watch other people kill each other for their own enjoyment. pedophelia, young prostitution, vomit, scat as part of intercourse. i would say people today are extremely moderate. the most extreme people are pic related, basically paints on their face and boots. not vomiting and fisting each other in the ass

>> No.11463001

>>11462990
That wasn't soul crushing and vacuous like it is today anon

>> No.11463002

>>11462990
>people used to watch other people kill each other for their own enjoyment. pedophelia, young prostitution, vomit, scat as part of intercourse.

All that shit still happens, what are you dumb?
You can literally watch slave markets recorded on iPhones today

>> No.11463027

>>11463002
yeah and its extremely looked down upon and normal people take part in it.

>>11463001
i have no idea why you think this. maybe because back then only the elite could afford young prostitutes as their private slave? or because we only have it documented in written form, instead of pictures and books.
either way, its not any less degenerate. you could argue that they had more class, but they were also way more degenerate.

>> No.11463163

>>11463027
you're right that certain cultures were way more degenerate than today, although we're getting up there over time. Just want to note though that age differentials were different in the past. Actual pedo shit has always been immoral, but you can't even compare, say a 13 year old from the middle ages to a 13 year old today. In those times they were in almost every way an adult, whereas today it takes decades to mature into an economically and socially viable adult.

>> No.11463961

>>11461034
>>11461076
>lmao dude it doesn't effect you on an incredibly personal level
>why you thinking on a wider societal level dude, why aren't you self-centered like me

>> No.11463979

>>11460913
This

>> No.11463982
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>Bisexual
>This is the stigma I have to compete with

Thank God I just keep my mouth shut DESU

>> No.11464002

>>11461034
>>11461076
Epic straw man, my dudes. Would you include me in the screen cap?

>> No.11464019

>>11461383
Degenerate Degenerate Degenerate
Do you think you're fighting against anything or anyone? The only people you impress are already the same losers as you.
These fags don't hurt anyone other than themselves if, if they hurt anyone at all, no kid will go gay because of some faggots running around in dresses and they won't be gay because of muh xenoestrogens in the water because of da pill (degeneracy).
You're just a close minded loser and you're even worse than these faggots because at least they're standing up for what they believe in, while you just post angry words on YouTube videos and your echo chamber

>> No.11464022

>>11463982
Your life must be so tough lad. Tell me more about your day to day suffering and how youre not able to openly talk to everyone else how you are into girls but wouldn't mind sucking a cock once in a while.

Do you fags even listen to yourself? How do you even have the gall to call anyone Degenerate

>> No.11464028

>>11463163
Yeah it certainly takes decades for a fag like you.

>> No.11464035

>>11464019
Imagine being so thinskinned that you have to conjure things Ive never said or implied out of thin air

>> No.11464053

>>11461667
Man that is disappointing. I was told it was just cool dark scandinavian mystery.
I got all 3 books in the series given to me for free. If I knew it was just politically charged power fantasies I would have left them.

>> No.11464057

>>11462640
I really should catch up on Attack on Titan

>> No.11464068

>>11464035
Don't even pretend you're not the poster boy /pol/tard, I always love how you act like you're "absolutely not" the standard pol poster *but* you hate degeneracy lolxD

>> No.11464076

>>11464068
I've never browsed /pol/ but that can't be, everything has to fit into your neat little prejudices

>> No.11464080

>>11464068
>no, you are because I say so
the absolute state of idealogues

>> No.11464081

>>11460913
>internet, pornography, videogames, soda and sugar
As destructive these activities are, they are considered to be "normal" by modern standards and they aren't exclusively enjoyed by /pol/. The fact that these activities along with the debasement of moral fiber and integrity are not only acceptable, but encouraged, just shows how degenerate modern western society is. You're just blind or willfully ignorant if you don't see it.

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>>11464081
>You're just blind or willfully ignorant if you don't see it.
WAKE UP SHEEPLE

>> No.11464123

>>11464081
Wew, don't forget your katana on your way out lad.
>>11464076
Well, I would recommend it to you, it's better than the watered down version you get on all the other pol infested boards
>>11464080
>You're an "idealogue" because I say so xD
Ok

>> No.11464129

This is a fucking literature board. Where are the mods? Delete this shit now. What a fucking disgusting thread.

>> No.11464240

>>11460316
de Maistre, Benoist, Venner, Houellebecq, Mauras and Guenon. Suck my dick anyone who knows what theyre on about can do that off the cuff

>> No.11464442

>>11460297
based post

>> No.11464959

>>11464028
lol you weren't financially independent at 13

>> No.11464965

>>11460297
>All of their philosophy is premised on the idea that humans are just generated from sense perceptions, that the only purpose of life is "harmonious" living that maximises happiness between humans in a society.
this is completely accurate, the French once again show themselves superior to Germanic autism

>> No.11464966

>>11464965
That sounds like some shallow fucking philosophy

>> No.11464970

>>11460297
basedo

>> No.11464973

>>11464966
>let me endlessly complicate what is actually fairly straightforward
Yeah Hegel has been of so much value to us all

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>>11464973
>Believing that we have the ability to see what "is" straightforward

>> No.11464991

>>11464983
>hurr durr le sekret troofs of reality that only i can see but which never have anything even resembling application and that i wont explain but only vaguely hint at and smirk at you if you dont pretend you get it as well
Yeah ok

>> No.11464997

>>11464991
I understand now. You actually care about the application. Fucking pleb

>> No.11465010

>>11464997
>you dont understand, my pseudo-mystic ramblings have a TRANSCENDENT and IMMATERIAL truth far more important than mere vulgar 'application' to the things everyone actually cares about in reality
my wews will go forth and multiply

>> No.11465016

>>11465010
I didn't say it was wrong to care about application, but you won't find it in philosophy.

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This is now a designated jezebel thread.

>> No.11465020

>>11465016
even obscurantists like Heidegger pretend their philosophy has real application to how you should live, it's just retconned in after theyve spent a few hundred pages inventing vague concepts that supposedly attain an ultimate understanding of reality

>> No.11465041

>>11462286
He still streams weeb games.

>> No.11465051

Hate fags, hate trannies, hate the PM simple as.