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Which bible verses are your favourite?

>> No.11520076

jew fukkin cuckservative

>> No.11520089

>2 maccabees
no

>> No.11520095

>>11519852
unironically
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men
Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children

>> No.11520116

>>11519852
Acts 17:26
John 10
Luke 12 52-53

>> No.11520134
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>>11520095
Is this shitty satire or just plain retardation.

Heres your (You)

>> No.11520209

Ecclesiastes 7:10
Do not say, “Why were the former days better than these?”
For it is not from wisdom that you ask this.

>> No.11520375

>>11520209
Dang...I have to read the whole thing now.

>> No.11520387

Matthew 6:25-34
Matthew 11:7-8
Ephesians 6:12

>> No.11520397

Job 38-42

>> No.11520399
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11520399

Jesus wasn't "nice". Stop perpetrating the lie.

>> No.11520400

>>11519852
Don't make fun of us Catholic

>> No.11520407

Matthew 11:28-30
>28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
>29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
>30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Gets me every time and I'm not even religious anymore.

>> No.11520423

>>11519852
can someone explain OP's pic to a biblical illiterate such as myself

>> No.11520450

>>11520423
I can give you a parable if you like

>> No.11520464

>>11520423
A Catholic accuses Protestants of mental gymnastics while not recognizing the severity of his own.

>> No.11520468

>>11520423
Prot here, it's Biblical references to why the 5 solae might not be true, the five solae being the five Protestant principles.
Scripture before tradition (not no tradition btw), faith over works, grace over merit, Christ alone, glory to God alone (no saints).

>> No.11520490

>>11520468
Faith over works also means faith in Jedus Christ as God's son is enough, baptism, good work, and church visits are not necessary to go to heaven, can't put it more bluntly and not offend Caths but we don't consider heaven a 'currency.'

>> No.11520491

Jesus wept.

>> No.11520621

>>11520209
I don't get it

>> No.11520637

>>11520490
>but we don't consider heaven a 'currency.'

what's this got to do with Catholics requiring you actually prove you're a good person before you're worthy of Heaven?

you assume Heaven is something you can buy your way in with "good deeds" but that is not how it works, since you have to actually be sincere in your good deeds and not just be thinking of them as a benefit to you

Protestantism is so stupid.

>> No.11520716

>>11519852
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes: and death shall be no more, nor mourning, nor crying, nor sorrow shall be any more, for the former things are passed away.
Revelation 21:4

>> No.11520722

>>11520490
>DUDE FAITH LMAO

>> No.11520730

>>11520637
>you assume Heaven is something you can buy your way in with "good deeds" but that is not how it works
Do you think people say this stuff for no reason?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninety-five_Theses
>As soon as a coin in the coffer rings, a soul from purgatory springs

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Therefore, from the day we heard this, we do not cease praying for you and asking that you may be filled with the knowledge of his will through all spiritual wisdom and understanding
to live in a manner worthy of the Lord, so as to be fully pleasing, in every good work bearing fruit and growing in the knowledge of God,
strengthened with every power, in accord with his glorious might, for all endurance and patience, with joy
giving thanks to the Father, who has made you fit to share in the inheritance of the holy ones in light.
He delivered us from the power of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son,
in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

>who has made you fit to share in the inheritance of the holy ones in light

>> No.11520765

The one that contradicts the other one. But the one that says gay people should be killed and slavery is good is a close second.

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>>11520765
Yea man, the Bible’s totally for the birds. Nothing but a bunch of Bronze Age babble. We live in more enlightened times.

>> No.11520850

>>11520399
I'm not reading all that lol.

>> No.11520866

>>11520399
Read a few sentences and instantly recognized it as crusade larping mental gymnastics. Fuck this world. Fuck this world. Fuck this world. Fuck this world. Fuck this world. Fuck this world. Fuck this world. Fuck this world.

>> No.11520887

>>11520407
You ever heard the thrice song “come all ye weary?” Pretty good even if you’re not into alt-rock

>> No.11521070

>>11520468
>not no tradition
Yeah, sola actually means "primarily". Silly papists.

>> No.11521264

Proverbs 21:19

It's the best piece of advice you could ever be given.

>> No.11521270

>>11520866
I agree, Catholic convert LARPers who grew up in some meme protestant sect are so embarrassing

>> No.11521284

>>11520866
>crusade LARPing mental gymnastics

Wtf you described all of Christian theology

>> No.11521291

1 Corinthians 13 is objectively the best Bible chapter

>If I speak in the tongues of mortals and of angels, but do not have love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give away all my possessions, and if I hand over my body so that I may boast,[a] but do not have love, I gain nothing.

>4 Love is patient; love is kind; love is not envious or boastful or arrogant 5 or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; 6 it does not rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoices in the truth. 7 It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

>things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

8 Love never ends. But as for prophecies, they will come to an end; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will come to an end. 9 For we know only in part, and we prophesy only in part; 10 but when the complete comes, the partial will come to an end. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly,[b] but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known. 13 And now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; and the greatest of these is love.

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>>11520765
>that 16 year old suburban atheist boomer

>> No.11522194

>>11519852
Jeremiah 29:11; For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.

>> No.11522350

>>11520866

>get incredibly triggered just a few words in from reading true Christianity

made me laugh

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>>11522350
Whatever you say

>> No.11522498

Job 38 is pretty great, just verse after verse of God smack talking Job

>“Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell me, if you have understanding.
5Who determined its measurements—surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
6On what were its bases sunk,
or who laid its cornerstone,
7when the morning stars sang together
and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

>“Have you entered into the springs of the sea,
or walked in the recesses of the deep?
17Have the gates of death been revealed to you,
or have you seen the gates of deep darkness?
18Have you comprehended the expanse of the earth?
Declare, if you know all this"

>> No.11522522

>>11522498

Job knows.

>> No.11522560

>>11522522
Checked

>> No.11522578

The ones which reveal the catholic church for being the den of thieves it really is.

>> No.11522613

>>11522498
this imo is the perfect answer to people who ask why does bad shit happen. God loves you, but you're also on planet fucking Earth ya dingus. You're a soul and a body in the natural world with hyenas and sharks and random lightning and AIDS and shit.

It's also a good answer to empiricists who want to find God with a microscope, or rather are having trouble conceiving of God in a proper metaphysical context.

>> No.11522624

>>11519852
john 15 made me cry

>> No.11522626

>>11521291
I probably agree. Matthew 5-7 also.

>> No.11522632

I don't think John 6:56 meant literally to eat bread made from him and drink his blood

>> No.11522636

Genesis 1:27
Ecclesiastes 3:1-11
Psalm 137
Isaiah 25:7-9
Isaiah 41:10
the entirety of Job Chapters 38-39
Matthew 11:28-30
Luke 23:33, 39-43
John 2:24
John 3:16
1 Corinthians 13:13 (i know, i'm a pleb)
Revelation 20:11

>> No.11522650

>>11520716
cant wait for this

>> No.11522673

>>11519852
If a man beats his slave so hard that his slave dies, he shall be punished. However, if the slave survives he shall not be punished for the slave is his property.

>> No.11522674 [DELETED] 

>>11522498
>You don't know nuffin
Damn... deep

>> No.11522687

deeper than your brainpan anon

>> No.11522691

>>11522636
oh and Revelation 18:10

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>>11520765

>> No.11522704

>>11520637
Why should you have to prove that you are a good person to God? Shouldn’t he know as an omniscient creator?

>> No.11522710

>>11520399
That's not a verse.

>> No.11522742

>>11522702
It's in the text and it doesn't go away. If all you got is a memebrain response then you've lost.

>> No.11522758

>>11520399
Post that other redpill that says most of the surviving bible is garbage and proceeds to give the RIGHT interpretation!

"Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks." Psalm 137:9

>> No.11522808

>>11522674
>implying Job doesn't know the answer
>revealing yourself as a pseud by not knowing the incredibly obvious answers to all of God's questions

>> No.11522818

>>11522742
Have you read it in context? Or are you just quoting Redditors who didn't read it either?

>> No.11522823

>>11522673
You know this isn't a rulebook, right? That's was actually a law put in place thousands of years ago

>> No.11522847

>>11522823
Except it's Mosaic law, so it's literally from a rule book

>> No.11522876
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>Jesus said this while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum. On hearing it, many of His disciples said, “This is a difficult teaching. Who can accept it?”

>Aware that His disciples were grumbling about this teaching, Jesus asked them, “Does this offend you? Then what will happen if you see the Son of Man ascend to where He was before?

>The Spirit gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life. However, there are some of you who do not believe.” (For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray Him.)

>Then Jesus said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to Me unless the Father has granted it to him.”

>From that time on, many of His disciples turned back and no longer walked with Him. So Jesus asked the Twelve, “Do you want to leave too?”

>Simon Peter replied, “Lord, to whom would we go? You have the words of eternal life. We believe and know that You are the Holy One of God.”

>> No.11522903

>>11522847
But not for this era man, it was written for very specific people

>> No.11522932

>>11522847
Based and redpilled

>> No.11522949

Leviticus 20:14

>> No.11523061

>>11520621
One of the themes of Ecclesiastes is found in the famous saying "there is nothing new under the sun." So it probably means the good old days weren't really any different. Or it could mean that even if they were better, it's not wise to dwell on the past.

>> No.11523096

>>11519852
Protestants still take Holy Communion, don't they?

>> No.11523115

>>11523096
They occasionally eat bread and wine, but they can’t receive Holy Communion because they don’t have priests.

>> No.11523123

>>11523115
Anglicans have priests

>> No.11523148

>>11522758
That was spoken by a man who was tortured and wrongfully imprisoned by a corrupt city and was speaking out of spite.

>> No.11523397

>>11523123
Not real priests. To be a priest you have to be ordained by a Catholic Bishop.

>> No.11523766

>>11522818
>Have you read it in context?
To what? The era 5000 years ago? Do we have enough if a picture of that era which isn't complete guesswork? Also, why do I have to hold the word of the lord as relevant today? Our worlds are vastly different in thought and deed since.

>>11523148
"The psalm is a Communal lament about being in exile after the Babylonian captivity, and yearning for Jerusalem."

Where the fuck did you get "tortured and wrongfully imprisoned by a corrupt city". They were besieged; They lost; They were prisoners of war; They were exiled. Also, you miss my intent of it towards the previous post, so let me reiterate, this time unto you: Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.

>> No.11523780

>>11523766
>God’s word isn’t relevant to the modern world

>> No.11523824 [DELETED] 

>>11522808
Lol haha

>> No.11523881

(Jesus referring to a goyim woman wanting him to save her daughter):
'Why would I let my dogs eat before my children?'

Anyway I'll give you my favorite from Sefer Yetzirah (Hebrew Book of Creation)
"There is nothing in goodness above pleasure and there is nothing in evil below pain"

>> No.11524077

>>11520375
Best book of the Bible
>>11520397
Second best book in the Bible
>>11521264
Third best book in the Bible
>>11522674
>>11522808
Retards

>> No.11524116

>>11523766
Let’s be honest here: atheism has far too much pride. Look at this post, it exudes some nerdy sense of superiority in knowledge. You would lose every single debate with me because no one would like you, fuckwit

>> No.11524128

>>11524116
I think you're just talking about /lit/

>> No.11524130

>>11522818
>Slavery is okay in context

lol

>> No.11524153

>>11520399
>when you base your faith on an anonymous shitpost
Don't.

>> No.11524181

>>11521070
t. someone who doesn't know shit about romance languages

>> No.11524211

>>11523397
Or an Orthodox one.

>> No.11524224

>>11524128
Oh god no. That is definitely not the attitude of many on /lit/. You can gtfo if you expect that shit here. Or if you watch anime

>> No.11524246

>>11524224
>hears friendly admonition that maybe arrogance is typical of /lit/ generally and not atheism specifically
>aggressively and arrogantly whines in response, failing to understand that he is speaking to an oldfag
Proved my point

>> No.11524501

Does the Book of Judith count? If so, that.

>> No.11525100

The one where some fag asks david to bring him like a thousand foreskins

>> No.11525588

>11 Therefore thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: I am determined to bring disaster on you, to bring all Judah to an end. 12 I will take the remnant of Judah who are determined to come to the land of Egypt to settle, and they shall perish, everyone; in the land of Egypt they shall fall; by the sword and by famine they shall perish; from the least to the greatest, they shall die by the sword and by famine; and they shall become an object of execration and horror, of cursing and ridicule. 13 I will punish those who live in the land of Egypt, as I have punished Jerusalem, with the sword, with famine, and with pestilence, 14 so that none of the remnant of Judah who have come to settle in the land of Egypt shall escape or survive or return to the land of Judah. Although they long to go back to live there, they shall not go back, except some fugitives.
Wait, what? It sounds like Yahweh just went to great lengths to say that every single one of the Jews who went to Egypt without returning to Judah and then sort of added out of the corner of his mouth "you know, except a few."

>> No.11525591

>>11525588
*every single one of the Jews who went to Egypt would die without returning to Judah

>> No.11525638

>>11525100
>being so mad nobody will ever give you thousands of foreskins you bitch about it on a mongolian basket weaving bbs

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>>11525100

>> No.11525680

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil: for thouartwith me;
thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Psalms 23:4

>> No.11525733

>>11525648
bible literalists are confirmed psychopaths

>> No.11525818

>>11520621
>>11523061
Don't know anything about it but the 'not from wisdom' part makes me think it's implying you're asking from self-pity, grass is greener on the other side, romanticism, nostalgia, spite, and so on. Basically things that are unproductive (perhaps debilitating in some cases) and certainly do not come from wisdom or the ready pursuit of faith.

>> No.11526473

>>11525733
>"This one guy killed 200 men and offered their dick skins to a king for his daughter"
>dude don't take it LITERALLY
What other possible meaning could that have?

>> No.11526687

Genesis 18:10-15
The Lord said, “I will surely return to you in the spring, and Sarah your wife shall have a son.” And Sarah was listening at the tent door behind him.
Now Abraham and Sarah were old, advanced in age; it had ceased to be with Sarah after the manner of women.
So Sarah laughed to herself, saying, “After I have grown old, and my husband is old, shall I have pleasure?”
The Lord said to Abraham, “Why did Sarah laugh, and say, ‘Shall I indeed bear a child, now that I am old?’ Is anything too difficult or wonderful for the Lord? At the appointed time I will return to you, in the spring, and Sarah shall have a son.”
But Sarah denied, saying, “I did not laugh”; for she was afraid.
He said, “No, but you did laugh.”

Rereading my Bible currently. This part stuck out to me. That's some panic mode inducing shit right there.

>> No.11527238

What is it with foreskins

>> No.11527267

Genesis 6
Job 41
Isaiah 51
Psalm 104

As a comparative mythology fag, I love these sections where you can see hints of a very different early conception of god and theology that persisted, with parallels in Mesopotamia and Egypt respectively.

[atheist but not trying to insult anyone's faith by saying that these images/themes/etc. are worse or less "pure" or whatever for the similarities btw]

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>>11526687
Imagine if God actually talked to us casually, like he did Sarah and Abraham.

>> No.11527424

Is there a version of the bible written in contemporary english?

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https://soundcloud.com/agapeaudio/luke_3-alexanderscourby-kjv#t=3:10

>> No.11528451

>>11527424
nkjv

>> No.11528531

>>11527424
Go with the RSV-2CE from Ignatius Press.

>> No.11529589

Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, every one who pierced him; and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen.

“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.

Revelation 1:7-8

>> No.11529633

>>11519852
Was it really necessary to start the thread with denominational war bullshit though?

>> No.11529833

>>11529633
There is no such thing as a denominational war. There is only the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church founded by Christ himself.

>> No.11529858

>>11529833
>Catholic,
>founded by Christ himself
Guffaw

>> No.11529873

>>11529833
There is nothing more shameful than your son converting to traditional Catholicism.

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>>11529833
New International Version
>They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.

New Living Translation
>Their worship is a farce, for they teach man-made ideas as commands from God.

English Standard Version
>in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.

Berean Study Bible
>They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.

Berean Literal Bible
>And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.

New American Standard Bible
>BUT IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE PRECEPTS OF MEN.

King James Bible
>But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Christian Standard Bible
>They worship me in vain, teaching as doctrines human commands.

Contemporary English Version
>It is useless for you to worship me, when you teach rules made up by humans.

Good News Translation
>It is no use for them to worship me, because they teach human rules as though they were my laws!

Holman Christian Standard Bible
>They worship Me in vain, teaching as doctrines the commands of men.

International Standard Version
>Their worship of me is empty, because they teach human rules as doctrines.

NET Bible
>and they worship me in vain, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.

New Heart English Bible
>And in vain do they worship me, teaching instructions that are the commandments of humans.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
>And they revere me in vain while they teach the doctrines of the commandments of man.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
>Their worship of me is pointless, because their teachings are rules made by humans.

New American Standard 1977
>BUT IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE PRECEPTS OF MEN.

Jubilee Bible 2000
>But in vain do they worship me, teaching doctrines and commandments of men.

American Standard Version
>But in vain do they worship me, Teaching as their doctrines the precepts of men.

Douay-Rheims Bible
>And in vain do they worship me, teaching doctrines and commandments of men.

Darby Bible Translation
>but in vain do they worship me, teaching [as] teachings commandments of men.

English Revised Version
>But in vain do they worship me, Teaching as their doctrines the precepts of men.

Webster's Bible Translation
>But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Weymouth New Testament
>but it is in vain they worship Me, while they lay down precepts which are mere human rules.

World English Bible
>And in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrine rules made by men.

Young's Literal Translation
>and in vain do they worship Me, teaching teachings -- commands of men.

>> No.11529897

>>11529858
>>11529873
>>11529877
In all charity I have to express my surprise and astonishment that fellow Christians don’t believe that Christ wanted his Church to be One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic. Do my brethren truly believe that this multiplication of diverse theologies is desirable to our Lord?

And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.

Matthew 16:18-19

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>>11519852
In the Gospel of John, when Jesus asks where Lazarus is and Mary tells him "Come and see" and Jesus bursts into tears. "Come and see" is what Jesus said to his own followers, so in this scene its reversed, and Jesus feels for the first time (in John at least) the full gravity of what it means to be a human being. Staggering

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>>11526473
>Jewish mythology
>not thinking that foreskins might have some kind of symbolic meaning beyond the literal

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For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind. (Hosea 8:7)

>> No.11529975

>>11520076
Quality discourse my friend. But may I recommend >>>/leftypol/?

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>>11529897
Daniel 2:34
>Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.

Daniel 2:45
>Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

Psalm 118:22
>The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.

Isaiah 28:16
>Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.


Instead of making enormous theological doctrines based on one metaphor-laden verse you might want to cross-reference it first with other scriptures that it's referring to. If you think all of the Old Testament prophecies above were about Peter you're a heretic and retarded. The Bible is very clear Jesus is the foundation stone of the Church and Peter was (chronologically) the first "stone" to be added to to the building which constitutes the body of believers.

>And upon THIS ROCK (referring to himself, see above scriptures) I will build my Church

The "Church" is founded upon Jesus spiritually and the Bible defines NT churches (as they pertain to an institutional body) as simply an assembly of Believers.

Matthew 18:20
>For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

1 Timothy 2:5
>For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus

Revelation 1:4
>to the seven churches which are in Asia

>> No.11529985

>>11520866
I don't know if you're meming or if you actual shut down when presented with arguments that conflict your biases. If the latter is true I don't know why you're on this board

>> No.11530009

>>11529981
Narrow is the way that leads to salvation. I am THE way. There is only ONE way. The abomination of Protestantism is contrary to the Bible and brings tears to the eyes of Christ and his Mother in Paradise.

>> No.11530019

>>11530009
I love how you didn't address a single point mentioned and moved on to something else.

>> No.11530028

>>11530019
None of your interpretations of the Bible come from a valid source. You know who Christ instituted as the source for Truth? The Sacred Magisterium. The teaching authority of the Catholic Church alone has the ability to interpret scripture. Sorry, but you are way out of line.

>> No.11530043

>>11530019
I’ll pray to the Virgin to intercede for you before the Father so that you may come to know and accept the teachings of Holy Mother Church.

Hail Mary, full of grace,
the Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou amongst women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

Hail, holy Queen, Mother of Mercy,
Our life, our sweetness and our hope.
To thee do we cry,
Poor banished children of Eve;
To thee do we send up our sighs,
Mourning and weeping in this valley of tears.
Turn then, most gracious advocate,
Thine eyes of mercy toward us;
And after this our exile,
Show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
O clement, O loving,
O sweet Virgin Mary.
℣ Pray for us, O holy Mother of God,
℟ that we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
Let us pray:
Almighty, everlasting God, who by the co-operation of the Holy Spirit didst prepare the body and soul of the glorious Virgin-Mother Mary to become a dwelling-place meet for thy Son: grant that as we rejoice in her commemoration; so by her fervent intercession we may be delivered from present evils and from everlasting death. Through the same Christ our Lord. Amen.

>> No.11530050

Gospel of Thomas: 114. Simon Peter said to them, "Make Mary leave us, for females don't deserve life."

Jesus said, "Look, I will guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of Heaven."

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>>11530028
>You know who Christ instituted as the source for Truth? The Sacred Magisterium.

>> No.11530062

>>11530028
>Hey let me explain to you doctrines using this Bible verse
>Ummm these other verses clearly show your interpretation of what it's saying is wrong
>NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT ONLY THE POPE CAN EVEN UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING
>GOD ONLY SPEAKS THROUGH HIM

This is how cults operate.

>> No.11530079

>>11530028
>You know who Christ instituted as the source for Truth? The Sacred Magisterium. The teaching authority of the Catholic Church alone has the ability to interpret scripture. Sorry, but you are way out of line.
I'm Catholic and even I don't believe this. The Magisterium is there to maintain orthodoxy, but it isn't impervious to error. Especially these days, since it took on board the modernist ideals of Maritain and JP2.

>> No.11530081

>>11530062
Like it or not, the laity is not meant to interpret scripture. The Catholic Church defined scripture, and its interpretation is Her exclusive right.

>> No.11530086

>>11530062
You have to understand that most Catholics are nonwhite and thus incapable of what we would call "reason".

>> No.11530087

>>11530079
Sorry, but you’re not Catholic. The Church is unerring in matters of faith and morals.

>> No.11530097

>>11522758
>Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks."
Oh god it's a ledditor.

Okay, look here, don't talk about things you haven't don't *any* reading of. That quote is made in sardonic reference to the Edomites committing infanticide to lament it, it did not endorse the Edomites after the siege of Jerusalem

>> No.11530099

>>11530087
I do believe it is unerring. It's error is in its means of communication. Compare the tone of encyclicals today to the encyclicals of 200 years ago. The Church has gone soft, even if the substance has remained the same.

>> No.11530103

Prayers for all Protestants and heretics ITT.

Remember O most gracious Virgin Mary that anyone who fled to thy protection, implored thy help, or sought they intercession was left unaided.
Inspired by this confidence, I fly unto thee, O Virgin of virgins, my mother.
To thee do I come, before thee I stand, sinful and sorrowful.
O Mother of the word incarnate, despise not my petitions, but in thy mercy hear and answer me.

Let us pray.
Holy Mary, we ask thy intercession for our Fallen away brothers and sisters. Help them to know the holy, sacred, and unchanging truths of the one, true, orthodox faith. Beg the Father to send his Holy Spirit upon them to enlighten their minds, that they may recognize that Sacred Tradition and Sacred Magisterium, in unity with Sacred Scripture, unite under the auspices of the Holy Catholic Church to form the wellspring of truth and the gates of everlasting life. Amen.

>> No.11530108

>>11530081
>Like it or not, the laity is not meant to interpret scripture.

Okay then stop ever defending your beliefs using Scripture because then you're just being a hypocrite and rightfully being rebuked with other scriptures disproving your interpretations.

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>>11530103

>> No.11530116

>>11530108
I’m not interpreting. I’m passing along the one, true interpretation. Nice try though.

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>>11530116
Matthew 22:29
>Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

You need to get saved.

>> No.11530214

Pretty embarrassing thread.

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>>11530214
I made it hoping for some of the smart christfags to appear, but no. Of course we get tards fighting over stupid shit.

To the prots here: how can the Bible be divinely inspired, but not the church which assembled it?
To the one Catholic here: read your Catechism and stop larping on /lit/.

>> No.11531112

>>11529947
Ok but why use foreskins as the symbolic device? Christians are just dumber jews.

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>>11531097
The Catholic Church did not "assemble" the Bible.

Here's a quote by Jesus that Catholics do not believe

John 8:47
>He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Saved people can spiritually discern what is, and what is not, God's word. Catholics love going to (Catholic) history books to "prove" that the Bible wouldn't exist without them, and that no one even knew what was Inspired without them, and yet apparently everyone from the Old Testament era knew that 2 Chronicles, Song of Solomon, Isaiah, etc. were divinely inspired but things like the Book of Jasher, Enoch, Annals of King David, etc. were not as Jesus repeatedly held people to the standards of
>Is it not written in your law
>ye do err, not knowing the scripture
>Man cannot live by bread alone but every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God
>and the scripture cannot be broken
which means people had to pretty clearly know what was and wasn't God's word otherwise this standard Jesus held them was completely lunatic and insane.

Hmm... How would people figure out which of these were and were not true prior to the Catholic Church? It's almost like he that is of God heareth God's word.

The reason that even hyper-religious Catholics have to go running to (again, self-made) history books and not the Bible is because, like the Pharisees, they don't hear God's word because they're not even saved and so have to go running to vain traditions and the teachings of men.

>> No.11531222

John 11:1-44
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+11%3A1-44&version=NIV&interface=amp

Matthew 25:31-46
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25:31-46&version=NIV&interface=amp

>> No.11531250

1The LORD said to Moses,
2You will also say to the Israelites: Any Israelite or any immigrant living in Israel who gives their children to Molech must be executed. The common people will execute such a person.
3Moreover, I will set My own face against such a person, cutting them off from their people, because they gave their children to Molech, making My sanctuary soiled and degrading My holy name by doing so.
4But if the common people choose to look the other way when someone gives their children to Molech and do not execute such a person,
5I will set My own face against such a person and their extended family, cutting off from their people—both the guilty party and anyone with them who faithlessly followed Molech.

>> No.11531265

>>11531220
I'm Orthodox but you seem to not understand that the Scriptures are not a separate thing from Tradition and it is funny that you speak of not breaking the Scripture when Protestant don't include books that have been in the Christian Canon since the early days of the Church.

>> No.11531278

>>11531265
>the Scriptures are not a separate thing from Tradition
Why don't you study the Talmud then, hypocrite ?

>> No.11531290

>>11519852
Psalm 51

>> No.11531338

>>11522401
> Fuck this world. Fuck this world. Fuck this world. Fuck this world. Fuck this world. Fuck this world. Fuck this world. Fuck this world.
>Hurr durr durr whatever you say
Lmao

>> No.11531381

>>11531097
>I made it hoping for some of the smart christfags to appear
i'm here, ama

>> No.11531389

Revelations 19:16

I got King of Kings tattooed on my thigh fight me fuckers

>> No.11531406

>>11531389
pics

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>>11531265
Multiple Church Fathers and even some Popes did not believe that the Apocryphal books were inspired.

The Council of Trent was not until the 16th century and then Catholics declared that they ALWAYS infallibly held the Apocryphal books to be inspired even though they never did and you had multiple "Church Fathers" disagreeing with each other.

Highlights include Pope Gregory the Great, Jerome (who along with Origen were the only two "Church Fathers" who were fluent in both Hebrew and Greek, neither accepting the Apocyrpha), and Athanasius.

>> No.11531619

>>11519852
Ezekiel 23:1-21.

>> No.11532186

>>11530050

I don't know if you're posting it in bad faith but even the most histrionic feminism concedes that women are an abomination that should strive to become men.

>> No.11532194

Vanity of vanities. All is vanity.

>> No.11532216

John 3-16
John 15-13
Romans 8-18

>> No.11532461

>>11531551
based

>> No.11532688

Serious question: is God real or not? The faith stuff is kind of bologna and I would rather put my trust in what I know.

>> No.11532737

>>11519852
>Which bible verses are your favourite?

That where jews call jesus the beast son of the whore marry who fucked some roman gladiator. Brutus i think his name was.

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>>11532688
>The faith stuff is kind of bologna and I would rather put my trust in what I know.

God exists, and yet the fact we do not see him is a perfectly valid reason to doubt his existence. Christianity is the only religion that explains why God exists but apparently chooses to hide himself (so to speak) from his own creation.

This is because fundamentally God wants to see men and how they act if they think they aren't being actively watched over. It's not exactly a test of your character if you don't cheat on your wife if she's staring at you right there, any more than it would be a test of your character if you literally saw some irate man in the clouds staring you down every time you were about to sin.

Hebrews 11:1
>Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Romans 8:24
>For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

>> No.11533265

>>11531551
Cringe and bluepilled

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11533380

Song of Soloman 8:10
>I was a wall,
>and my breasts were like towers;
>then I was in his eyes
>as one who brings peace.

>> No.11534350

>>11530103
> praying on the street corners openly so as to be seen by men

>> No.11535015

>>11533067
>fundamentally God wants to see men and how they act if they think they aren't being actively watched over
kinda messed that up with the whole revelation thing then, eh?

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>>11531220
My dude, read a fucking book. If saved people can tell what was divinely inspired, was nobody saved before the reformation?

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>>11520399
>replies consist of TL;DR and 'ugh I cant even'
Here's the TL;DR:
Christ demands that you forgive those who seek penance, and seek out ways to make it so you can do so through kindness. He also demands that you refuse to accept sin where you see it in, and to always stand against it and take action against it and those who would gleefully sin without a care otherwise, and that 'Christians' who lambast others for their intolerance of sin, and treat Christ like he was the Buddha, are actually retards because Christ was someone who equal parts condemned as he did forgive

>> No.11535492

>>11520399
Hes not nice because niceness implies your ultimate desire is not to disrupt anyone else
Jesus was extremely disruptive and actively challenged the conceptions of everyone around him, which is why he was murdered

If Jesus was nice he would have stayed a carpenter

>> No.11535517

>>11520765
>muh gays
>muh slaves
>muh consistency
Brainlet

>> No.11535685

>>11535015
>kinda messed that up with the whole revelation thing then, eh?

Not really considering that's going to be a tiny sliver of history.

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>>11535311
>My dude, read a fucking book.

I've pretty clearly studied the issue. So the question for Catholic apologists becomes whether they're just parroting what a Priest told them without bothering to look anything up for themselves or if they're deliberately lying through their teeth and going "hurf yeah that's what we've ALWAYS believed" even though you literally have your own fucking Popes saying the the Apocryphal books were not inspired, the Translator of your Bible, and dozens of "Church Fathers" spanning centuries.

And then plus we have the Bible itself and we don't find ONE example in the New Testament of any qualifier of "Thus saith the Lord". "As it is written", etc. for anything you could even remotely connect to the Apocryphal books.

but hey if you're desperate to rewrite history to support the validity of your cult it's on you.

>If saved people can tell what was divinely inspired, was nobody saved before the reformation?

Well unfortunately 99.99% of the saved people (a concept you people do not think exists) from before the Reformation could not read as the Catholic Church burned people to death for owning copies of the Bible written in their own language, suppressed literacy for anyone who wasn't already a part of their Clergy, and actively put death warrants out on anyone who tried to translate it into anything other than Latin. They did this not because of some Scriptural reason or because it was write, but because if you're a bunch of robed liars running a Cash4Heaven™ scheme in your cult it behooves you to stop anyone from having the capacity to challenge your authority by appealing to the Bible for how blasphemous and heretical your practices are.

Pic related Catholics burning William Tyndale alive for translating the Bible into English. I'm sure Jesus is so proud of you all and would have done the same thing. :')

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>>11535760
>Well unfortunately 99.99% of the saved people (a concept you people do not think exists) from before the Reformation could not read as the Catholic Church burned people to death for owning copies of the Bible written in their own language, suppressed literacy for anyone who wasn't already a part of their Clergy, and actively put death warrants out on anyone who tried to translate it into anything other than Latin. They did this not because of some Scriptural reason or because it was write, but because if you're a bunch of robed liars running a Cash4Heaven™ scheme in your cult it behooves you to stop anyone from having the capacity to challenge your authority by appealing to the Bible for how blasphemous and heretical your practices are.
Fucking wewlad, you fell for those Enlightenment memes hook-line-and-sinker

>> No.11536179

1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;

5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;

6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;

7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

>> No.11536896

Song of Songs 2:16-17

>> No.11537033

awful thread all around. thankfully the catholics i know IRL aren't nearly as judgemental as the ones on /lit/. i dont think many of you know Christ's love at all.

>> No.11537121

>>11520399
Is this what people mean when thay say "Nicene Christianity"?

>> No.11537408

>>11536179
I love this verse and the song by the Byrds. Too bad the Byrds were hippie pieces of shit.

>> No.11537536

>>11537121
Nicene Christianity is exclusively Catholicism and Orthodoxy, no other sects actually practice the Creed.

>> No.11537832

>>11529952
>tap four play Damnation
>tap four tap quicksilver amulet
>play Emrakul Aeons Torn

>> No.11537897

John 15 and Ezekiel 18

For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the LordGod: wherefore turnyourselves,and live ye.