/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.11609531]

Cosmic Edition
>less seen planetary arrangements
>weird stars and constellations
>how do you plan to help mankind conquering space?


FANTASY
Selected:
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General:
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Flowchart:
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SCIENCE FICTION
Selected:
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General:
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21333.jpg

SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
>http://greatsfandf.com/authors-full-list.php

Previous threads:

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[Anonymous No.11609533]

>>11609531
Forgot the Tolkien edition:
>>11602870

[Anonymous No.11609538]

Reminder that Pluto is a real planet. Don't believe the NASA propaganda.

[Anonymous No.11609555]

Lady a shit

[Anonymous No.11609562]

>>11609555

[Anonymous No.11609566]

>>11609555
>>11609562
Leave the fight behind to the last thread. We talk of stars here.

Ganymede has the finest curves. I dare you to argue.

[Anonymous No.11609570]

>>11609531
What is the Moby-Dick of science-fiction?

>inb4 muh dune

[Anonymous No.11609576]

>>11609538
christ, people still circlejerk this shit?

[Anonymous No.11609619]

I need some sci-fi that puts me in the mood to listen to Blink-182.

[Anonymous No.11609653]

>>11609619
You mean, garbage?
That shouldn't be too hard to find.

[Anonymous No.11609702]

>protag mingles with exotic and fun alien women
>doesn't fuck any of them
>goes back to earth to marry some dumpy human slut

[Anonymous No.11609709]

>tfw got memed into reading this
I guess I didn't hate it, but only because I wasn't really expecting anything in the first place. At the very least it's satisfied my curiostiy and I'll be able to stay away from litRPG's for the near future.

[Anonymous No.11609716]

>>11609653
>>>/mu/

[Anonymous No.11609720]

>>11609716
He's right though, they weren't even the best in their own fucking genre

[Anonymous No.11609724]

>>11609709
>I'll be able to stay away from litRPG's for the near future
I think you could have safely judged this one by its cover.

[Anonymous No.11609726]

>>11609709
You and me both. There's literally nothing good in this "genre".

[Anonymous No.11609730]

>>11609709
>>11609724
>>11609726
litRPG is to fantasy/scifi what fantasy/scifi is to quality non-genre fiction.

Can you truly afford to look down upon someone and their literary choices? Why does this thread even exist?

[Anonymous No.11609736]

>>11609720
>genre
But that's not how you listen to music.

[Anonymous No.11609740]

>>11609724
I dunno, the title is pretty catchy and it's not the worst zero budget cover I've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.11609743]

>>11609709
>>11609726

wow you guys are just like--

>>11609730

yeah basically what this guy said. seriously, it's such a meme for everyone to be like: "my genre is superior to yours because it's harder to read and therefore it is superior."

Like, why did you guys even read Fantasy/Sci Fi in the first place as compared to the ""superior"" non-genre fiction?

[Anonymous No.11609750]

>>11609724
>>11609740
i've seen a lot of talk about horrible cover art being a turnoff. would it have better if it was just an auto-generated, plain cover with [title] at the top and [author's name] beneath it? like those orange penguin classics. it wouldn't be eye-catching at all, but it wouldn't look like ass either. thoughts?

[Anonymous No.11609753]

>>11609743
There's some things worth reading in fantasy/sci fi despite a lot of it being trash. Litrpgs are just fucking garbage wherever you go.

[Anonymous No.11609762]

>>11609743
>Like, why did you guys even read Fantasy/Sci Fi in the first place
I don't; I read sci-fi. Gandalf and his merry men can go catch a unicorn in Narnia for all I care.

[Anonymous No.11609764]

>>11609743
>>11609730
Literally none of those three posts you quoted were "looking down on someone", that's just your own problem with being insecure if you take it that way. This is a thread for all science fiction and fantasy, shitting on it's subgenres is to be expected. Outer /lit/ often shits on genre fiction and you don't see most people here crying about it, or even browsing outer /lit/ for that matter, so if you want a litrpg hugbox make your own general.

[Anonymous No.11609773]

>>11609764
>Outer /lit/ often shits on genre fiction and you don't see most people here crying about it
Even so, the second-most-shat on literary genre shitting on something else feels a bit hypocritical.

[Anonymous No.11609778]

>>11609764
>Outer /lit/ often shits on genre fiction...
This confuses me. If their books don't belong to a genre, what the hell do they categorize them as?

[Anonymous No.11609785]

>>11609531
A medieval squire or ranger or whatever
And an anthro rabbit
Are spying in an Aztec city
On a moon orbiting a gas giant

wut

[Anonymous No.11609786]

Hi friends. I haven’t read much science fiction, but I recently read The Stars, My Destination and really enjoyed it. I want to get into Asimov and Clarke. Where should I start?

[Anonymous No.11609788]

if litrpgs are worth defending please post one worth my time

[Anonymous No.11609790]

>>11609785
I'm glad that caught you're attention anon. Why don't you just read it to find out more?

[Anonymous No.11609791]

>>11609785
As "wut" goes, it's got nothing on early Discworld.

[Anonymous No.11609793]

https://wanderinginn.com/2016/07/27/1-00/
:)

[Anonymous No.11609794]

>>11609790
What's it called and is it any good?

[Anonymous No.11609796]

>>11609788
>>11609793

[Anonymous No.11609797]

>>11609791
I recently downloaded all the Discworld novels but I don't want to read them. Please make me want to read them.

[Anonymous No.11609800]

>>11609793
>4k dollaroonies a month
yikes, time to get writing

[Anonymous No.11609807]

>>11609797
they're ok.

[Anonymous No.11609808]

>>11609793
What is the difference between this and a serialized webnovel?

[Anonymous No.11609811]

>>11609786
Asimov and Clarke really arent that great desu
Maybe read I, Robot and Rendezvous with Rama but you will find them pretty staid after the glory of Alfred Bester

Contemporous to him would be Frederick Pohl, Fritz Leiber, Walter M. Miller, Jack Vance, Leigh Brackett

Try some New Wave writers like Harlan Ellison, Roger Zelazny, Samual Delany, Frank Herbert, Ursula K. Le Guin

[Anonymous No.11609814]

>>11609791
that just looks like a comic fantasy

[Anonymous No.11609818]

>>11609808
Nothing? It is a serialized webnovel.

[Anonymous No.11609819]

Stories about Knights pls
Historical
Fantasy
or Historical Fantasy
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.11609825]

>>11609807
sold!
The Grundy County Auction Incident

[Anonymous No.11609830]

>>11609818
That's all litRPG is? I thought I needed dice or something.

[Anonymous No.11609834]

>>11609830
No, that's RPG, without the lit.

[Anonymous No.11609844]

>>11609834
So if webnovels are verboten, how is this okay? We may as well start shilling good webnovels.

http://www.localroger.com/prime-intellect/mopiidx.html

[Anonymous No.11609846]

>>11609786
There's charts in the OP.

[Anonymous No.11609856]

>>11609844
Since when were webnovels verboten? I say we may as well talk about them all, so long as they're scifi or fantasy.

[Anonymous No.11609860]

>>11609844
>webnovels verboten
>Worm gets mentioned at least once per thread

[Anonymous No.11609864]

>>11609860
Yeah but it's usually people shitting on it, not exactly promoting discussion on then.

[Anonymous No.11609865]

>>11609856
>>11609860
It used to be a thing.

[Anonymous No.11609867]

>>11609819
The Red Knight
The Hedge Knight
Knights of Dark Renown

[Anonymous No.11609868]

>>11609773
Not really. Every body shits on something. The world is a shitting web, not a pyramid. Readers get shat on by dumb tv watchers, for example. You are just mad because being the shittiest thing there is, litrpg can't really shit on anything else.

I swear, litrpg readers must be completely braindead. How can someone read about someone else playing a game and think that's fun? Where's the conflict? lmao just log off lol.
>if you die in the game you die in real life
>can't log off
>transported to real world game
Never seen that one before. Except for all those million other times they do exactly that. Each of those come with their own intrinsic plot holes. Just turn you brain off, right? Hence, braindead.

[Anonymous No.11609874]

>>11609868
>How can someone read about someone else playing a game
Wait, what? See, I knew there some gay D&D component.

[Anonymous No.11609885]

>>11609868
>How can someone read about someone else playing a game
That's not neccacarily what they are though. They can have game mechanics present without it just being about some dude playing a game.
The only defining features is the presence of stat sheets is some form.

[Anonymous No.11609891]

>>11609885
>not a game
>has stats
That's WORSE!

[Anonymous No.11609890]

>>11609885
>the presence of stat sheets is some form

[Anonymous No.11609896]

>>11609819
Wizard Knight

[Anonymous No.11609906]

>>11609864
Not really, it's more people saying they're bored and dropping it around the time it gets to its "book one end" arc. If you want to see people shitting on Worm, go on a forum like Sufficient Velocity (be warned it's filled with a bunch of autists who hound over tvtropes).

[Anonymous No.11609935]

>>11609793
Reading this. Will report back soon.

[Anonymous No.11609970]

>>11609868
>everyone shits on something, that's how it is
>litrpg isn't the most shit on gerne!
>proceeds to shit on litrpg
At least if oyu shit on something, don't tell us your shitting doesn't matter. Way to devalue your own argument.

[Anonymous No.11609972]

>>11609797
Trick with discworld isn't to just read them sequentially, the first few especially are very bad compared to the rest.
It's easier to read through one of the character series in order, rather than reading the whole series in order.

Also the new ones really really suck, everything after Thud! is not worth reading.

[Anonymous No.11609978]

>>11609972
This. In any book before Sourcery, the author was still looking for his own style and voice, so they're a bit shaky and not nearly as good as the later ones - though still worth reading imo. Any books after Night Watch or so get all kinds of dark, preachy, and no longer even trying to be comedy - more satire than parody, if anything. The last few especially are awful: I think Pratchett's mind was deteoriating more than he thought it did.

[Anonymous No.11609983]

>>11609972
Best starting point imo is pyramids.

Standalone and good.

Then the Watch because Vimes is my husbando

[Anonymous No.11609985]

>>11609970
>>litrpg isn't the most shit on gerne!
I never said that. It's shit, no way around it. What was being argued was, sci-fi and fantasy being shat on by the rest of /lit/ makes it so it can't shit on litrpg? No, one things has got nothing to do with the other. Same thing as maybe litrpg can shit on other stuff, like, I don't know, xianxia or japanese LNs? I don't know, they look like the same shit to me.

[Anonymous No.11609989]

>>11609972
>>11609978
Hmmmm. The problem is I'm an actual OCD patient and I can't read just some of them, and I can't read them out of published order. I actually found them on r/opendirectories which is a tremendous resource for sci-fi fantasy epubs.

[Anonymous No.11609993]

>>11609989
>and I can't read them out of published order.
there is literally no reason to do this with the discworld books
you will just experience the series in a worse way
discworld is more like a number of different series, and a few standalone books, all under the same name.

read the individual character series (vimes, rincewind, witches etc) in chronological order, but there is no need to read the whole series chronologically.

[Anonymous No.11610000]

>>11609993
If I read them out of published order, terrible things might happen.

[Anonymous No.11610007]

>>11610000
if you read them in published order, you'll have a worse experience

[Anonymous No.11610013]

>>11609786
>Asimov and Clarke
I agree with the othe anon, neither of them are really good bt still SF canon. Nightfall by Asimov and Rendezvous with Rama (or the Odyssey series) by Clarke are good places to start though

[Anonymous No.11610014]

>>11610000
Just pretend they're a bunch of completely separate novels, and that reading Mort right after Equal Rites is just like reading Twilight after a couple Malazan books.

[Anonymous No.11610027]

>>11609985

XianXia and Japanese LNs are much worse. In LitRPG you just mainly focus on the game mechanics shit and the number grind, it's all mindless min maxing geeky shit while XianXia and Jap LNs are hardcore wish fulfillment with all the harems and shitty tropes and all that.

LitRPG isn't the worst of the worst, but it isn't exactly the fucking best either. Fantasy and Sci Fi itself are still far more superior. LitRPG is just a tiny subgenre of that which people like because of the game shit.

[Anonymous No.11610040]

>>11610027
>implying litrpg's don't do all that shit too
it's all the same trash, just from different cultures

[Anonymous No.11610145]

Is Genocidal Organ any good or am I getting memed?

[Anonymous No.11610168]

>>11610145
>Japanese
>"Good" enough it got adapted into an animated movie
>The war on terror exploded, literally, the day Sarajevo was destroyed by a homemade nuclear device. The leading democracies transformed into total surveillance states, and the developing world has drowned under a wave of genocides. The mysterious American John Paul seems to be behind the collapse of the world system, and it’s up to intelligence agent Clavis Shepherd to track John Paul across the wreckage of civilizations, and to find the true heart of darkness—a genocidal organ.

Sounds like shit.

[Anonymous No.11610179]

>>11610145
I saw a movie based an another of his books and it was pretty trash so by accociation I'm sure all of his books are horrible.
it's okay.

[Anonymous No.11610190]

Is there a Sci Fi equivalent to Conan or Elric? Masculine energy, gun toting, etc.

[Anonymous No.11610196]

>>11610168
I'll admit my only experience with Japanese books are the Sea of Fertility tetralogy by Mishima and a handful of Murakami's books like 1Q84 and Norwegian Wood. Sea of Fertility was fantastic but Murakami's books were really mixed and mostly very dull and repetitive. I get the sense from reading reviews of other Japanese authors that that's quite common for them - it's just their style and it's popular in Japan but their work simply doesn't translate very well into English.

I thought the plot for Genocidal Organ sounded alright, except for the horrendous John Paul thing, but I guess Christian references don't have to be as nuanced for Japanese audiences because they don't know as much about it through cultural osmosis like Westerners do.

Maybe I'll give it a miss then, oh well, at least the anime movie had some cool scenes (even if it wasn't great as a film).

>>11610179
>it's okay
meh, I think I'll give it a miss

[Anonymous No.11610261]

Hey /sffg/,
I really want to read fantasy/sci-fi where one of the themes is a person betraying their loved one in favor of saving the world or their country/race and having to live with the consequences of their choice. More points if the betrayed realises what is to happen and expresses disappointment and tries to protest. Reaching that same decision at the end of the series would be fine too, as long as the consequences are addressed. I want to feel in love, dissatisfied and sad at the same time, so please help!

[Anonymous No.11610311]

>pick up stormlight archive for a re-read
>hoping to catch all the tiny plot details and foreshadowing
>realize half of it is going to be Shallan
>put it back down

[Anonymous No.11610374]

>>11610261
Book of the New Sun

[Anonymous No.11610430]

>>11610168
Actually though that’s fucking cool

[Anonymous No.11610438]

>>11610430
I gotta agree witht that anon it does sound like absolute shit. I'll also refrain from questioning your maturuity and taste you weeb.

[Anonymous No.11610472]

>>11610196
>genocidal organ anime
hmm, the clips on youtube look alright
I might give the book a read

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra0YU6HT6mA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDIDoMDQ6nY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f7rWzF8Ezo

[Anonymous No.11610732]

Muh dick

[Anonymous No.11610746]

>>11610190
Boy i got the book for ya.

[Anonymous No.11610758]

>>11610732

Really fucking sad we won't see another Earthsea novel.

[Anonymous No.11610775]

>>11610758
tbf the last ones were several steps below the Big Three

[Anonymous No.11610789]

>>11610746
Is this good or a meme? You have my interest

[Anonymous No.11610801]

>>11610789
>'yeah he's good' t. arthur C. clarke
did this not raise any alarm bells?

[Anonymous No.11610818]

>>11610775

I kinda liked them (haven't read the short stories yet). I think The Other Wind brought a good closure to the entire setting, returning everything to balance. There never really was any need for more books after that in my opinion so I get why she never wrote more of them but I do miss the possible opportunities (maybe stories set in the same universe, different ages maybe). I also really enjoy the archipelago/bronze age setting and can't really find anything similar to read.

[Anonymous No.11610820]

>>11610758
Not really. She wrote like five thousands books anyway, so plenty for you to read if you really miss her. Maybe try the complete orsinia. It's pretty good.

>>11610789
It's okay. It's a short story collection anyway. Pirate the thing and read one or two stories and drop it if it doesn't grab your interest. It's unapologetically right wing though, if you're into that.

[Anonymous No.11610848]

>>11609794
The Straggler's Mask. From what I've read so far it seems worth the four bucks.

[Anonymous No.11610864]

>>11609819
The Faerie Queene

[Anonymous No.11610869]

I just picked up Instrumentalities of the Night by Glenn Cook. Anyone one here read it? Any opinions?

[Anonymous No.11610897]

>>11610869
I mean you already picked it up, so you may as well read it?

[Anonymous No.11610916]

>>11610869
I think you should read it.

[Anonymous No.11610927]

>>11610848
I see the anon who wrote this is taking the last threads suggestion and shilling harder on /lit/

[Anonymous No.11610950]

>>11610927
Aren't there better places to shill your shit? There's like five guys sharing this whole channel.

[Anonymous No.11610954]

>>11610950
Yeah but if he can impress the best he's going to get the rest eventually

[Anonymous No.11610962]

>>11610954
We're far from the best tho.

Might as well dive as deep into the shit as he can and go to /b/.

[Anonymous No.11611099]

What's the best pre-Tolkien non-historical fantasy?

[Anonymous No.11611108]

>>11611099
Paradise Lost

[Anonymous No.11611140]

Why did you guys forget to tell me how great this series is?

[Anonymous No.11611143]

>>11611140
I mean it is occasionally pretty great in that "So bad it's good" way, but that's not usually what we mean when we say something's "great".

[Anonymous No.11611144]

>>11611140
we didn't, it's not great, you just have shit taste

[Anonymous No.11611146]

is Sanderson a hack??

[Anonymous No.11611148]

>>11611140
Trolling shoud be subtle anon.
Subtle.

[Anonymous No.11611152]

>>11611099
The bible.

[Anonymous No.11611159]

How do you guys find obscure gems?

I was telling others about how strange/weird/different Iron Dragon's Daughter is and then one guy just straight up told me it isn't shit next to pic related so I ordered it and am waiting for it to arrive.
But I really wonder how he found out about it judging by how few goodreads reviews it has.
How do they find them?

[Anonymous No.11611170]

>>11611159
Generally speaking, if something is a gem, it usually isn't that obscure. Probably not nearly as popular as Twilight and other such drek, but neither would it be entirely unknown.

[Anonymous No.11611176]

>>11611152

[Anonymous No.11611183]

Anyone read this shit? It looks like a gigantic meme.

[Anonymous No.11611200]

>>11611183
Hey, it's thoughtful, fast-paced, and beautifully brutal. That sounds pretty good.

[Anonymous No.11611205]

>>11611183
meme doesn't even begin to describe it.

[Anonymous No.11611209]

>>11611159
I mostly just randomly trawl the net for discussions about authors I like and see what other writers people who share my tastes recommend.

Is Carol Berg considered obscure? Her Rai-Kirah series kept coming up in discussions of recs for lesser known series. I thought the first book was just ok and haven't returned to the series yet.

[Anonymous No.11611210]

>>11611183
>recommendation from a woman
>double-barreled last name
yeah nah I'm alright thanks

[Anonymous No.11611214]

>>11611099
The King of Elfland's Daughter is the droid you're looking for.

The Worm Ouroboros is decent

>>11611159
People are plebby...
I didn't like Iron Dragon's Daughter. It was too depressing. I am a fan of Stations of the Tide. I've read it twice and will read it again sometime.

[Anonymous No.11611219]

>>11611183
If a katana wielding four-armed cyborg cowboy is not a gurantee of quality I don't know what is.

[Anonymous No.11611225]

>>11611099
does the Kalevala qualify as non-historical ?

[Anonymous No.11611230]

>>11611225
Probably, but
>reading
>not listening

[Anonymous No.11611231]

on an unrelated note why do goodreads reviewers do this shit its so annoying argh

[Anonymous No.11611235]

Elon inspired stuff?

[Anonymous No.11611245]

>>11611231
because it's all tweens and catladies from tumblr lad

[Anonymous No.11611250]

>>11611235
my diary desu

[Anonymous No.11611255]

anything that is about starting a colony in another planet? like the tv series terra nova
the only thing thats on my list right now is red mars

[Anonymous No.11611267]

>>11609531
What will scifi be when the Chinese/Indian start to dominate the global and space politics in ~30 years?

[Anonymous No.11611271]

>>11611159
>Generally speaking
I think it holds true for media like TV series or movies, but with something like book releases that have very little marketing it can slip through cracks really easily.
There are so many releases that if you don't have a catchy cover/title or description people simply don't notice it and if only a few dozen people decide to buy it then spreading through word of mouth is simply going to be too slow to be effective.

And I forgot picture in my previous post.


>>11611209
>Is Carol Berg considered obscure?
Her most rated novel on goodreads has 6400 ratings.
So I'd say it's a little obscure for a book that released in 2000.
Not that using goodreads as a metric is perfect but it should be accurate enough to judge a book's popularity.

>>11611214
>It was too depressing.
And yet it was exactly what I was looking for.
But tastes differ and that's fine.
Too me most fantasy feels way too warm despite all kinds of atrocities happening, sci-fi generally feels a lot colder even if the worlds are *objectively* better

[Anonymous No.11611283]

>>11610374
Thank you, friend, on it!

[Anonymous No.11611290]

>>11611159
I read stuff at random, don't ever research it. Sometimes I get really lucky.

[Anonymous No.11611338]

I'm reading Gormenghast. Am I supposed to hate that faggot Steerpike.

[Anonymous No.11611347]

>>11611338
yeah, queerpike is a little shit

[Anonymous No.11611348]

>>11611338
If the story is good, you're not "supposed" to hate anyone, or love anyone for that matter. Each reader should be allowed to make their own opinion on the characters.

[Anonymous No.11611352]

Your waifu is a waif

[Anonymous No.11611356]

>>11611352
Deep.

[Anonymous No.11611427]

does this really sound decent? Be honest with me. I'd rather write a martian science-fantasy but people keep telling me this one I pitched a while ago is a better idea and I'm just attached enough to it to feel conflicted

>a boy and a girl wind up getting on the wrong train together the night of a meteor shower and end up wandering an alternate new york where humans have disappeared and the city has been inherited by the fauna
>on the cryptic advice of a sewer gator who crawls out of their toilet in they end up on an on-foot journey to the building from ghostbusters in an attempt to find a portal home
>along the way they are hunted by alley cats after a shoplifting from a bodega and discover the truth of what became of the humans of this reality after a horrific encounter in Grand Central
>also in true adventure fantasy fashion they discover they have magic, but ultimately a good knife proves far more practical in these dangerous wild streets

[Anonymous No.11611430]

>>11611352
No mine has a robust musculature and bone structure

[Anonymous No.11611434]

>>11611427
let me guess, it's actually the future *yawns*

[Anonymous No.11611436]

>>11611427
Honestly, I agree with your friends - it sounds pretty great and could go somewhere if you stuck with it.

I've been thinking of doing Martian science-fantasy myself for ages but your idea is better.

[Anonymous No.11611503]

Are there any sff books that contain a female character with a particularly big behind?

[Anonymous No.11611514]

>>11611427
I like it because it sounds like you've thought about it for awhile and have come up with specific details and scenes instead of just saying "man and woman take train to alternate universe"

[Anonymous No.11611537]

>>11610864
>epic poem from 1596
wut
>>11609896
read that
>>11609867
read hedge knight

[Anonymous No.11611539]

>>11611503
I was wondering this as well, but also any that contain overt/unambiguous heterosexual anal sex scenes
sure there's plenty of regular sex in sff, but in the booty? can't think of any desu

[Anonymous No.11611569]

>>11611503
>>11611539
For fags like you two.
https://www.amazon.com/Ass-Goblins-Auschwitz-Cameron-Pierce/dp/1933929936

[Anonymous No.11611714]

>>11611152
Okay, this is epic

[Anonymous No.11611717]

>>11609750
njo

[Anonymous No.11611719]

Are there any books in the Banks’ Culture series I should skip or are they all worth reading? Thoughts on them in general?

[Anonymous No.11611724]

>>11611146
sanderfag a hack

[Anonymous No.11611735]

>>11610732
ayn rand lookin ass

[Anonymous No.11611736]

>>11611719
Feersum Endjin is a bit of an endurance test.

[Anonymous No.11611751]

>>11611427
Oh about you actually fucking write something instead of being a fucking idea guy?

[Anonymous No.11611759]

>>11611434
No, I'm not doing planet of the apes. In fact, I'm intentionally doing the opposite. The characters actually figure out they're not on in new york by seeing the statue of liberty is missing

>>11611436
>>11611514
Crap

>>11611436
I actually have bits and pieces of a "trilogy" (in reality it would be 4 books but marketed as a trilogy for the sake of a recurring numeological motif) thought out but the issue is I really don't have any faith I can satisfy my own standards

[Anonymous No.11611781]

>>11611751
I've got an 88k word manuscript of another novel that I've been cleaning up for a while so I'm not entirely an idea guy. Just a shitty implementation guy

[Anonymous No.11611796]

Started The name of the wind.

What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.11611815]

>>11611719
>Consider Phlebas
A great intro to his universe and a decent story in its own right, read.
>The Player of Games
More fun and world-buildy, story is a bit bleh but read it anyway
>Use of Weapons
Really great characters and story, I'm sure you know the 'shocking ending' by now because it gets posted a lot but if you haven't you're in for a wild ride, definitely read
>The State of the Art
A bit boring and too meta for my taste but some people like it, I would say skip it
>Excession
My personal favourite of the series, love everything about it (although the story of the humans reconnecting gets a bit sappy and old), definitely read it
>Inversions
Completely forgettable, not worth reading imo
>Look to Windward
Second favourite, mostly because of the ending, great story, read
>Matter
The last of the worthwhile books, a good send off to the series if you look at it that way, interesting characters and really gripping if a bit of a doorstop
>Surface Detail
Another entirely forgettable one, terrible story and annoying characters, skip it
>The Hydrogen Sonata
Awful, skip

Overall I like the series and I'm glad I got to be around as Banks was writing some of it.

[Anonymous No.11611820]

>>11611569
i shit you not that book is actually good.

[Anonymous No.11611826]

>>11611796
Some meme shit, that's what.

[Anonymous No.11611827]

>>11611820
As good as Throne of Glass?

[Anonymous No.11611848]

>>11611796
Being brainwashed into cuckoldry

[Anonymous No.11611857]

>>11611848
is it really brainwashing if it like it?

[Anonymous No.11611861]

>>11611815
Perfect, thanks so much anon!

[Anonymous No.11611886]

>>11611861
You got memed

[Anonymous No.11611891]

>>11611857
LOW TEST

[Anonymous No.11611915]

>>11611886
don't listen to this jerk

[Anonymous No.11611996]

>>11611886
>>11611915
There's only one way to find the truth: read them yourself.

[Anonymous No.11612174]

>>11609555
Buttsnatcher a crazy, frigid bitch.

Darling 4eva.

[Anonymous No.11612225]

>>11611348
If the story is good it should make you feel SOMETHING for the characters it presents.

[Anonymous No.11612231]

>>11612225
That's not what I meant. Of course you should feel something, but that something shouldn't be dictated to you by the writer.

[Anonymous No.11612235]

What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.11612237]

>>11611796
Mostly? Disappointment.

[Anonymous No.11612240]

>>11612235
One of the truly prophetic figures of the space age

[Anonymous No.11612295]

>>11611796
A WOMAN IS LIKE A FINE INSTRUMENT

[Anonymous No.11612300]

>>11612295
Does the book ever say what a man is like?

[Anonymous No.11612363]

Any Sci-Fi/Fantasy written like Hemingway?

[Anonymous No.11612424]

>>11612235
>Some women, Commander Norton had decided long ago, should not be allowed aboard ship; weightlessness did things to their breasts that were too damn distracting. It was bad enough when they were motionless; but when they started to move, and sympathetic vibrations set in, it was more than any warm-blooded male should be asked to take. He was quite sure that at least one serious space accident had been caused by acute crew distraction, after the transit of a well-upholstered lady officer through the control cabin.
Decent Big Dumb Object exploration, with some subtle, well-aged sexism.

[Anonymous No.11612472]

Any good(or just not bad) sff with crazy waifus?

[Anonymous No.11612479]

>>11612472
Waldo Rabbit. The craziests and the bests.

[Anonymous No.11612491]

>>11612479
Is it actually decent?

[Anonymous No.11612538]

>>11612491
Yes, it's pretty good. The mom is my waifu, stay away from her.

[Anonymous No.11612593]

>>11612472
Oh boy let's go for round two

[Anonymous No.11612666]

>>11611503
I remember a very long description of an insanely fat woman getting her ass stuck in the door frame in the fifth book of malazan and everyone at the place remarking how incredibly sexy that is and barely containing themselves. The guy had a fat fetish and inserted it a few times throughout the series with these bafflingly long descriptions that never happened for anything else.

[Anonymous No.11612668]

RECOMMEND ME SOME GOOD COSMIC HORROR FUCK

[Anonymous No.11612683]

>>11612235
It's minimalist at times; weird at others. Just don't agonize over the specific details of each character and enjoy the ride. One of my favorites from Clarke

[Anonymous No.11612723]

>>11612174
*gets dabbed on by lady*

[Anonymous No.11612724]

>>11612424
>>11612683
Excellent

[Anonymous No.11612768]

>>11609811
>>11610013
>not liking clarke's short stories like the one about the monks searching for the names of god or the one about telephone skynet or the one about angry south americans incinerating a soccer referee

[Anonymous No.11612962]

>>11612666
Glad someone else noticed it. Was particularly bad in Reaper's Gale too. It really started in book 1 with Tattersail.

[Anonymous No.11613181]

>>11612962
Kek does Erikson really have a fat fetish? I'm on Reaper's Gale right now...where does this happen?

[Anonymous No.11613216]

>>11612424
proof clarke was gay: "what's a sports bra?"

[Anonymous No.11613273]

>>11613181
It happens in Tehol chapters. If you don't know yet, you'll definitely know once you get there.

[Anonymous No.11613297]

having just devoured this series, anyone know of any other books dealing with AI similarly? like even though it's an AI it's "human"

[Anonymous No.11613406]

this guy any good? Ive read three Ian M Banks books same sort of style?

[Anonymous No.11613478]

>>11613406
Not really similar to Banks other than being space opera. His stuff varies a lot in quality and is more down to earth in the sense that his settings involve the future of humanity as extrapolated from the modern real world. I'd strongly recommend trying his newer stuff like Commonwealth Saga (start at Pandora's Star, disregard Misspent Youth) or Fallen Dragon before Night's Dawn which is an absolute slog.

[Anonymous No.11613528]

>>11613478

haha I actually have pandoras star. A mate left it at my place ages ago....maybe I should start it.

[Anonymous No.11613653]

>>11613297
Joel Shepherd has a couple that might qualify:
The Cassandra Kresnov series is about a android soldier that defects because she wants to be a civilian.

The Spiral Wars series has the characters find a ancient Berserker AI in the first book and it eventually becomes a main character.

I've heard Neal Asher does good AIs too, but I haven't read anything by him.

[Anonymous No.11613659]

I wish people liked my good writing better than they liked my bad writing. Writing something bad makes me uncomfortable

>>11612668
What the literal fuck do you want?

The Ballad of Black Tom
Johannes Cabal
Winter Tide
Carter And Lovecraft
Worm

[Anonymous No.11613677]

>>11613659
>Worm
>Cosmic horror
Even if that's technically true, I don't think it's what anyone asking for recs expects.

[Anonymous No.11613687]

>>11613677
I kind of used up my best recs last thread anon

[Anonymous No.11613716]

the cosmere is vast

[Anonymous No.11613741]

>>11613716
What am I looking at?

[Anonymous No.11613748]

>>11613716
>Stormlight won't be over until you're 45+ years old
>Mistborn is eventually going to become cyberpunk
>A series with one of the most annoying characters in the cosmere that isn't projected to end until most of Sanderson's fanbase is in retirement homes
>Elantris and Warbreaker sequels coming soon(tm)
>A bunch of other shit I didn't even know he was working on

How the FUCK can someone write so much? I genuinely wish I had this fuckers ability to write nonstop.
>Fucking Reckoners is getting its own multiverse shit

[Anonymous No.11613861]

>>11613716

[Anonymous No.11613863]

How many martian species seems correct?

What I've got are
>Black Martians: Formerly dominant species of mars before humans came. Uncontrolled desertification destroyed their civilization, and so they were easily conquered. They have great strength and distributed nervous systems that allow their body parts to move independently. They look like the martians from duck dodgers
>Purple Martians: Giant shapeshifting beetles who live beneath the surface. They control massive cisterns humans can't access and trade the water in exchange for genetic resources that they consume to reconfigure their bodies. It is rumored that some have reshaped themselves into other species entirely and even produce hybrid offspring

[Anonymous No.11613882]

>>11609531
I want to read some Halo and Star Wars books to relive my adolescence. Aside from Fall of Reach and the Thrawn Trilogy, is there anything worth reading?

[Anonymous No.11613912]

>>11613882
Timothy Zahn's Icarus Hunt. I strongly suspect the book was originally supposed to be a Han Solo story, or possibly a new character, but for whatever reason he got turned down. Either way it's pretty good.

[Anonymous No.11613937]

>>11611099
Eddison

[Anonymous No.11613939]

>>11613912
Sounds good. He wrote the Thrawn books and the new ones coming out, so it should be okay at least.

[Anonymous No.11613984]

>>11613939
I'm actually a big fan of his old Blackcollar series. It's basically how Humanity's only hope against the alien conquerors are badass ninja commandos. And the aliens have their own ace-in-the-hole who's a human police investigator who's basically Javert. Super cheesy but very entertaining.

[Anonymous No.11614015]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjaUFO9-1oM&index=12&list=PLn5mSh00tKGGwiZ0CsZvWAzA0M2xQn8jA

Was Uncle Harlan right? Is he still right?

[Anonymous No.11614029]

>>11613984
Man I loved the black collar books as a kid. My dad had them in his bookshelf.

[Anonymous No.11614178]

>>11614015
He's not all right, I can tell you that.

[Anonymous No.11614349]

>>11612962
>>11613181
I don't know how people miss it, I'm sure that first scene with Tattersail had like a full page describing how the midget she was fucking was hanging onto or off her fat folds.

[Anonymous No.11614782]

>>11613716
Is Brandon Sanderson the Stephen King of fantasy?

[Anonymous No.11614880]

>>11613882
Matthew Stover's Star Wars books are the only ones which approach being good instead of 'good for what it is'

[Anonymous No.11614909]

>>11610168
sounds like an MGS plot

[Anonymous No.11614918]

>>11614909
And therefore shit.

[Anonymous No.11614924]

>>11614909
I'm pretty sure Project Itoh did the novelization for the MGS books.

[Anonymous No.11614937]

>>11614918
yeah desu lol
MGS has some great in the moment writing, but trying to understand the overall picture is just a waste of time
Kojima needs a real editor, and needed to stop trying to explain every single werid bit of the canon

the writing in MGS2 is pretty clever though

[Anonymous No.11614991]

>>11610746
That fucking cover though

[Anonymous No.11614996]

>>11613861
>/r/fantasy
>insulting anything for being mediocre when they praise rothshit and grrm

[Anonymous No.11615024]

I loved Gateway, but unlike (in my impression) most readers, I was much more interested in the ayy lmao relics and the economic/cultural system that was built around them than the main character's psychological troubles (although I really liked that as well).
Are the other Heechee books worth reading?

[Anonymous No.11615063]

>dabs on Lanfear

[Anonymous No.11615126]

>>11613741
an autist's paradise

[Anonymous No.11615233]

>>11613406
Really liked the night's dawn trilogy. Great premise, and intersting technological and biological interactions between the factions.
Only thing that felt kinda meh was the ending being a literal god machine that's just randomly lying around.[/spoiler
And it took me ages to read. it's so fucking dense.

[Anonymous No.11615283]

>>11614937
I really like the disjointed campy writing though. It's almost like it's written by a very enthusiastic 5 year old.
>daddy daddy did you know there are dominant and recessive genes, and the dominant ones are the good ones and the recessive are the bad ones
>umm technically that just means which one appe-
>daddy daddy did you know that AI and VR exist, and we could totally train soldiers with them and recreate legendary soldiers with specifically tailored missions!
>sure these things exist but I don't really think you could-
>daddy daddy did you know the soviets had nukes that they could launch from a walking tank piloted by a man with electric powers
>yes the cold war involved nukes but I don't know abo-
>daddy daddy did you know there is a way to extract people from the battlefield with a balloon?!?!? They put a ballon on them and they just woosh away!
>um that's not really how Fulton-
>daddy daddy did you know there are bacteria that eat iron!?!? You can put them in a sandstorm and they'll eat a helicopter in a second!
>...

[Anonymous No.11615434]

Right I need some help. Sciuence fiction help.

I've been stuck in a re-read hole pretty much all year, and I really some new good shit ASAP. Just throw suggestions at me and I'll discard stuff I'v tried. I've been through the charts etc already btw.

Fucking LOVED: Blindsight/Echopraxia, Three Body Trilogy, Terra Ignota.

Really liked: Thing Itself, Ubiq/VALIS, Gateway, Roadside Picnic

Enjoyed enough to mention: Brave New World, Eschaton Sequence (only got through 4 then go very bored), Ender's Game

Fantasy stuff I also really liked: Hyperion, Lord of the Rings (anybody NOT like this one?), Book of the New Sun

Please help me I can't just re-read them all again but I've been let down by so much shit. I really treasure philosophical and large-scale ideas. I relish just getting swamped on the first page, hence why BS and BotNS both tickled me.

if anyone can recommend me a book that gets into my top 5 and frees me from this pit is disdain for new books I'll fucking PayPal you 5 euro idgaf.

[Anonymous No.11615458]

>>11615434
Ted Chiang's short stories, Embassytown, Diaspora or short stories by Greg Egan, J. G. Ballard's short stories, Kefahuchi Tract trilogy

[Anonymous No.11615514]

How is the Mars trilogi?
Red mars, green mars, blue mars and such

[Anonymous No.11615517]

The Aes Sedai should be gassed

[Anonymous No.11615518]

>>11615434
>I relish just getting swamped on the first page
malazan

[Anonymous No.11615540]

>>11615434
>I relish just getting swamped on the first page
the straggler's mask

[Anonymous No.11615603]

>>11615540
>>11615518
>magic
I only mentioned Lord of the Ring and Book of Newsun for a reason you fairy-tale flat Earthers

>>11615458
Good answer see me after class for a gold star

[Anonymous No.11615613]

>>11615603
fantasy = sci-fi though
just replace the word magic with science and you're sorted

[Anonymous No.11615616]

>>11615613
This. Back in the seventies the two were essentially the same and often intersected even in a single story.

[Anonymous No.11615643]

>Main conflict of the story is being stuck in a time loop
>This scenario is somehow supposed to be tense

[Anonymous No.11615651]

>>11615643
It could be if you emphasized on the prevalent circumstances when you get OUT of the loop, and on the struggles to get those circumstances as ideal as possible.

[Anonymous No.11615654]

>>11615434
read more Gene Wolfe/the full solar cycle

[Anonymous No.11615664]

>>11611140
>heir of fire
>heir is white in all the covers and not on fire
What the fuck is this lying?

[Anonymous No.11615669]

>>11615664
You see, anon, the fire is in her HEART.

[Anonymous No.11615747]

>>11615669
Oh I was actually thinking about hair note heir lol

[Anonymous No.11615816]

>>11615616
>Back in the seventies
yeah when scifi was shit

>>11615654
yeah I may also try this, thanks

[Anonymous No.11615837]

I think I figured out why that Alternate New York idea was bugging me. It's too fantastic to be magical realism but not enough to feel magical. It's the literary version of the uncanny valley

So now, I have to remember how to make it fantastic

>>11613748
It's impressive, but perseverance isn't everything.

I'm fairly certain nobody except true fantasy nerds will remember Sanderson 20 years after he's gone. The volume method probably made King immortal because there weren't enough well known horror writers to compete with him so he became the genre. Sanderson couldn't possibly write enough fantasy to BECOME fantasy

[Anonymous No.11615871]

>>11613716
>dragonsteel 5 projected for 2072
>sanderson will be 97

[Anonymous No.11615872]

Can BOTNS be made into an anime?

[Anonymous No.11615890]

>>11615871
>he thinks he won't be plaguing us from his grave
there is no escape

[Anonymous No.11615892]

>>11615872
Whether or not it can, it shouldn't be.

[Anonymous No.11615897]

>>11615434
More PKD, finish the VALIS series, A Scanner Darkly, Three Stigmata. They are all on the same vein as Ubik and VALIS.

[Anonymous No.11615910]

>>11615892
Why not?

[Anonymous No.11615933]

>>11615871
>>11615890
Our only hope is that in the meantime he admits he can't write witty.

[Anonymous No.11615941]

>>11610190
Planet of Adventure by Jack Vance

[Anonymous No.11615965]

>>11611159
I look at old syfy magazines with the short stories. I find an author's name then look them up on wiki. Btw George R.R. Martin wrote syfy stories when he started out. I found that neat.

[Anonymous No.11615997]

>>11611503
Yeah. Sector General by James White.
I actually came here to see how everyone thought of James White as an author.

'He could spot her easily, no one filled out a nurse's lightwieght suit like Murchinson'

[Anonymous No.11616004]

>>11611271
I get it now that Iron Dragon's Daughter was supposed to be anti-heroic. I went into it blind thinking it was just another fantasy so I was unprepared. What other obscure or less mentioned books have you found?

>>11615514
I only read Red Mars and it's very technical but I like that sometimes. The main characters aren't very likeable. I thought the side characters were better.

[Anonymous No.11616051]

>>11615837
>Sanderson couldn't possibly write enough fantasy to BECOME fantasy
Those'll be some mighty bittah words to swaller pard.

[Anonymous No.11616055]

>>11615997
Sector General is pretty fun

[Anonymous No.11616165]

>>11615063
nuttin personal

[Anonymous No.11616435]

What are your favorite xianxia web novels?

[Anonymous No.11616481]

>>11616435
>web novels

[Anonymous No.11616483]

>>11616481
based pajeet

[Anonymous No.11616605]

Anyone know if this guy has given an update?

[Anonymous No.11616612]

>Any science fiction novel
>Has intelligent alien life

Instant turn off

[Anonymous No.11616621]

>>11616612
What if the story was set billions of years into the future and all the intelligent alien life is actually various animals, insects, even plants and mushrooms, having evolved into sapience?

Also Milky Way and Andromeda are colliding now because it's cool. It'd in fact be the main reason I wanted to set the story so far into the future.

[Anonymous No.11616653]

>>11616621

An intelligent race that grants or allows intelligence in another will see itself replaced.

[Anonymous No.11616658]

In my setting there are 3 gods of death who share a body with 3 gods of inertia. The shared bodies are a zombie, a vampire and either a ghost or a werewolf

What's more interesting?
>The death gods are the hosts and the inertia gods are plant symbiotes
>The inertia gods are Sasquatches based on the the three monkeys and the death gods are the zombie/vampire/werewolf viruses infecting them

[Anonymous No.11616664]

>>11616658
The latter.

[Anonymous No.11616679]

What if I just take a sci-fi anime premise and set it in with West, with Western characters?

[Anonymous No.11616699]

>>11616679
It's still going to be a retarded premise, as almost all anime is.

[Anonymous No.11616713]

>>11616679
>Planetes: the western
>The great expansion is going to the shitter because every caravan off west is unloading huge amounts of garbage and shit for some reason, the natives don't like it either
>So this posse of them cowbows will have to clean up the roads so that more settlers can get through
>Or something

[Anonymous No.11616737]

>>11616713
Bit too western, anon.

[Anonymous No.11616747]

>>11616664
third option: the inertia gods are both the sasquatch and the virus. the death gods are feeble vermin who either control the mindless undead or serve as their disability assistance

[Anonymous No.11616761]

>>11616612
There isn't even intelligent life on Earth so how can there be intelligent life in outer space

[Anonymous No.11616918]

>>11616761
How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real?

[Anonymous No.11616925]

>>11616918
are feet shoes?

[Anonymous No.11616958]

>>11616925
>are feet shoes?
Feet are shoes for your foot bones.

[Anonymous No.11616960]

>>11616925
yes

[Anonymous No.11616975]

What are some books with vampire waifus?

[Anonymous No.11616988]

>>11616975
The Vampire Diaries.

[Anonymous No.11616994]

>>11616605
>vampire isn't the love interest

[Anonymous No.11617153]

>>11616958
I really like this post.

[Anonymous No.11617237]

>>11616612
Bad taste detected

[Anonymous No.11617363]

>Puts women on a pedestal
Truly a beta.

[Anonymous No.11617411]

Did anyone here read "Chamiel" by Pearson?
What did you think of it?

[Anonymous No.11617742]

>>11617411
It's worth a go.

[Anonymous No.11617788]

>>11610261
Not exactly what you asked for but The King of Elfland's Daughter deals with similar themes: also a great introduction to Dunsany.

[Anonymous No.11617814]

>>11612668
Clark Ashton Smith is Lovecraft but he can write.
Also Lovecraft.

[Anonymous No.11617913]

How do you feel about babyeaters?

[Anonymous No.11618239]

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/19004/aeromancer/chapter/243770/authors-message

Is this a joke? Odds that he really entered a cult?

[Anonymous No.11618279]

>>11618239
not gonna lie thats one of the most hilarious reasons ive ever encountered to stop a project. next to "the sun told me to stop" kickstarter thing.

[Anonymous No.11618281]

>>11615434
If you like crazy sci-fi ideas that end up going nowhere read Floornight

[Anonymous No.11618405]

>>11618239
Aww, that's cute. I hope it goes well for them.

[Anonymous No.11618440]

>>11616653
Gb2/pol/

[Anonymous No.11618456]

>>11618440
it's not racist if they're ayyyliums

[Anonymous No.11618481]

>>11618440
>implying it's not true

[Anonymous No.11618492]

>>11618239
Yup that's a cult alright.

[Anonymous No.11618601]

>>11618481
Nice try but radio signals dissolve into electromagnetic hash after a couple lightyears.

[Anonymous No.11618667]

So I just finished the farseer trilogy and I thought it was enjoyable. Books descended in quality with 3 being pretty mediocre but by that point you're invested in the story. Also man she really just wrote like 6 different chapter intros then reused them on every single chapter

But I'm wondering if any of the other books set in the same world are worth reading? I see that she did a new trilogy with the main character in 2014 and I think she did a ton of shit set in the same world.

[Anonymous No.11618706]

>>11618667
I really like the Elderling books as a whole. There are 3 trilogies with Fitz as the main character and 2 more series that fit in between them that continue the overarching story.
After the Farseer Trilogy:
>Liveship Traders trilogy
Set in a different part of the world with a bunch of different characters. Big focus on sailing/pirates. Vaguely ties in to the big overarching plot. Features the Fool in disguise as a character.
>Tawny Man trilogy
Back to Fitz after a big time skip, contains minor references to stuff from Liveship Traders.
>Rain Wild Chronicles
Sort of a direct sequel to the Liveship Traders and concerns the state of the world after those events and the events of the Tawny Man trilogy.
>Fitz and the Fool trilogy
Back to Fitz again after another big time skip and more or less ties everything up from all the other books.

IMO The ones focused on Fitz are the good ones and Liveship Traders/Rain Wild Chronicles are meh, but provide a lot of context for the sequels about Fitz. Even though they're all linked, each trilogy more or less has a "okay you can stop here if you want" ending. My suggestion would be, try reading Liveship Traders and if you really don't like it, skip to Tawny Man and decide from there if you really want more Fitz.

Soldier Son trilogy is unrelated to all those books, but if you liked the Farseer trilogy I think you'll like it to since it's a similar "coming of age" semi-depression porn story but in a frontier America/Dances with Wolves type setting.

[Anonymous No.11618748]

>>11618706
Thank you for the very informative reply. I'll check out liveship traders and see what I think. I have a bad habit of reading through long mediocre fantasy series because I'm moderately invested in the characters. These are short enough that It's not that big of a deal and with that guide it seems like tawny and rain wild are a bit tangential and possible to just google the key points. I hope they address some of the big plot holes from the first trilogy. The whole white ship, kemal rawbread or whatever, and the story with the outislanders in general. That whole last chapter explanation felt a bit rushed.

As an aside on the books Burrich's age doesn't really click with me. He serves to middle age, then he completely raises fitz, then he's young enough to Everyone clicks spoilers but you know what he does with who ? It seemed like an odd choice and more of a tidy way to wrap up a loose plot end.

More broadly is it just me or does it seem that most trilogies that are extended into a larger world peak with the original stuff and get worse going on. I'm thinking of
Joe Abercrombie's First Law trilogy
Brendan Sanderson's books.
The mess that is Dune
R Scott Bakker's prince of nothing

I get that the authors and fans are attached to the world and I'm enough of a sucker that I always keep going but sometimes they'd be better off letting sleeping dogs lie.

[Anonymous No.11618792]

>>11618748
>These are short enough that It's not that big of a deal and with that guide it seems like tawny and rain wild are a bit tangential and possible to just google the key points. I hope they address some of the big plot holes from the first trilogy. The whole white ship, kemal rawbread or whatever, and the story with the outislanders in general.

Tawny Man is not tangential, unless you actually meant Liveship Traders. And those things you mentioned are a big part of the Tawny Man trilogy.

[Anonymous No.11618812]

>>11618792
yeah I meant the two non fitz trilogies. liveship traders and rain wild. If I don't like a trilogy I'll read a summary of it before going on to the next one. I'm sure I'll just read them all though. I remember checking out like the 30th Xanth novel from the library when I was 12 and realizing I was heading down a dark path in life

[Anonymous No.11618879]

>>11615434
>I relish just getting swamped on the first page
Prince of Nothing trilogy, R Scott Bakker. All the complex worldbuilding of a good fantasy novel along with interesting and insightful thoughts from a leading writer in cognitive philosophy. Bakker did a PHD in philosophy at Vanderbilt and his books are sort of a grand exploration of interesting thought experiments in philosophy. I enjoyed them on a much lower level for the engaging writing, interesting world, and novel (for me) topic of a religious crusade. Give the first few chapters a try and you'll have a good idea of whether or not it's worth it to continue. Also I think it would be hilarious to listen to these as audiobooks because he's an invent your own language type of guy and literally no character has a pronounceable name

[Anonymous No.11619009]

>>11618879
>All the complex worldbuilding of a good fantasy novel along with interesting and insightful thoughts from a leading writer in cognitive philosophy
This is a joke right? Bakker's got a decent setting, and more GRI than you can shake a stick at, but if he's a philosophical genius I'm the enlightened physical incarnation of the buddha.

[Anonymous No.11619027]

I’m in the middle of reading Dune but I just found this for 50 cents at my local book store. Am I correct in assuming it will expand on some of the ideas mentioned about the Sarduakar training?

[Anonymous No.11619033]

What is the western equivalent to Kagerou Daze?

[Anonymous No.11619091]

A few days ago someone in here typed the phrase "his abs brooded darkly" and I think about it a lot now

[Anonymous No.11619141]

>Araminta Station

Jack Vance is the Grand Master of Banter. This was published 38 years after Dying Earth and you can tell he's still got it, though I've heard he fell off with the rest of the Cadwal books.

[Anonymous No.11619445]

>>11618481
By this logic all nations of Earth should have already destroyed themselves just in case.

If the aliens are so advanced, surely they must have discovered Hobbesian traps and acausal contracts.

Relevant story: http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/03/21/repost-the-demiurges-older-brother/

[Anonymous No.11619552]

>>11609570
Moby-Dick is sci fi

[Anonymous No.11619554]

>>11609811
Great authors there

[Anonymous No.11619606]

>>11615024
Still my favourite book after reading it about 4 years ago, desu I regret reading the other books and not leaving it as a stand alone

[Anonymous No.11619609]

Was Vodulus eating the dead simply to imitate the Autarch? Was he trying to acquire a 'legion' to match the Autarch's in his lifetime?

[Anonymous No.11619625]

>>11619141

desu

[Anonymous No.11619633]

>>11619609
No, his method was crude and imprecise. The passing of memories was nowhere as efficient.
My understanding was that by eating with his underlings people that died in his service, their memories would instill more resolve to his group.

[Anonymous No.11619711]

Should I read Peter Watt's other series? Blindsight and Echopraxia were v. good.

[Anonymous No.11619714]

>>11619711
If you've liked his work so far, then it's probably a good bet to try the others too.

[Anonymous No.11619721]

>>11619714
Are they as good though? I've got a lot of other stuff I could read instead.

[Anonymous No.11619908]

>>11619721
Obviously not, why do you think only Blindsight gets memed

[Anonymous No.11619923]

>>11619908
Well are they at least bad in that funny entertaining way?

[Anonymous No.11619930]

>>11619923
I didn't say they're bad, I said they're not as good as Memesight

[Anonymous No.11620083]

>>11616975
Let the Right One In

[Anonymous No.11620102]

>>11620083
Speaking of that, what are scifi/fantasy books with nice wholesome platonic relationships?

[Anonymous No.11620114]

>>11620102
Do they have to be different gender? Because otherwise just about all of them have that power of friendship thing going on.

[Anonymous No.11620127]

>>11620102
Rise.

[Anonymous No.11620128]

>>11619009
His work is well regarded in philosophy of the mind, cognition, and consciousness areas. His whole thing though is that there's no point preaching to in groups and he has a duty to engage with the general world. So he performs this duty buy writing up dense smarmy articles on his blog, which he splits up about 50 50 with criticisms and attacks of other authors in his field. It's pretty funny to read and it's my understanding that most people in both the fantasy and cognitive philosophy communities think he's a heel

[Anonymous No.11620263]

>>11612424
he was a faggot
he has a line like this in most all his novels
he tried to hide his faggotry
by weirdly obsessing over lines such as you quoted

[Anonymous No.11620270]

>>11614349
its in the prequel books as well, with that fertility azathanai bitch being obese and disgusting as fuck handing out clayfigurines of her fat self

[Anonymous No.11620358]

Ball Lightning was just released (finally). It's funny that Liu Cixin's name is now more prominent on the cover than the title of the book whereas it was the opposite for The Three Body Problem trilogy. .

Apparently the English translation of The Dark Forest changed a semi-major plot point in that book in order to avoid spoiling this book, which was written before TBP trilogy but only translated now.

[Anonymous No.11620415]

>>11620358
>Apparently the English translation of The Dark Forest changed a semi-major plot point in that book in order to avoid spoiling this book, which was written before TBP trilogy but only translated now.
Wtf, really? I'll probably return and ask you about that once I've read this bad boy

[Anonymous No.11620784]

New thread, maybe?

[Anonymous No.11620792]

>>11620358
Is it less shit than the Three Body Problem?