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[Anonymous No.11677586]

>having 4th of july dinner with family
>the topic of free will comes up
>say that this debate is pointless as it's impossible for a human to believe in determinism even if they argue for it, because we are biologically wired to think we have free will so we can exist socially and even to argue against it is proving one thinks he has free will.
>tell them how without free will our political and social construct would work like evolution, where all negative parts of it would slowly be written out in favor of the good ones by the law of natural selection, and how history isn't linear, and how the development of the social construct didn't just keep the good parts of it while getting rid of the negative ones, therefore showing that our development into modern civilization wasn't biologically programmed
>mom tells me "anon you do know we are just bunch of neurons, right"

Holy shit I got fucking dusted, guys. I can't even look my family in the eyes since then. How do I come back from this?

[Anonymous No.11677599]

>>11677586
Good luck in Hell bitch

[Anonymous No.11677600]

you don't. you're permanently btfo. this is your life now.

[Anonymous No.11677602]

>>11677586
you don't?
sounds like you family are de-spooked, levelheaded and logical people while you are still spouting the drivel that toga-wearinf pooftas who believed in eternal souls propounded
welcome to the modern world. try reading some fucking science books

[Anonymous No.11677607]

The debate was pointless, but not for the reason they said. There is literally no way to prove it one way or the other so who cares?

[Anonymous No.11677610]

>>11677586
>yeah well, you do know you’re just a fucking cunt, right?

[Anonymous No.11677627]

>>11677610
This was the appropriate reply

[Anonymous No.11677636]

she's not right anon, you live in a family of pseuds, for which im sorry. you also sound very american which oculd explain

[Anonymous No.11677644]

>>11677586
>Mom, are you implying the territory can be reduced to the map? Tell me you’re not.

[Anonymous No.11677654]

>>11677586
You don't come back from it. At least not of your own free will.

[Anonymous No.11677655]

>>11677602
cringe

[Anonymous No.11677682]

>>11677586
You were right though?

[Anonymous No.11677699]

>>11677586
>anon you do know we are just bunch of neurons, right
you should've just posted this at her

[Anonymous No.11677716]

>>11677586
I'm gettimg the impression you feel like you won because your arguments were more "sophisticated", but that's not how it works. It sounds like you were spouting nonsense and your mother just pointed out the obvious. Also you don't understand evolution.

[Anonymous No.11677814]

my uncle taught me this neat little trick to win ANY argument. Just say this:
>"Mom, you know you're gay and retarded right?"
And then you shout "GAY RETARD" over her voice whenever she tries to respond

[Anonymous No.11677828]

>>11677586
There's the difference between "life" and "non-life", like how if you blow out your brains, the rest of you will still be fully intact chemical-wise.

[Anonymous No.11677850]

>>11677828
Does life exist from a physicist point of view?

[Anonymous No.11677956]

I'll bet Ian's in this fucking thread somewhere.

[Anonymous No.11677986]

>>11677586
you're a fucking retard and your mom is a cargo culting p-zombie. both of you should be gassed
>>11677850
the distinction is totally unnecessary along the lines you are using to orient the question. Yes we would have to make a line of demarcation between them but they're just slightly different kinds of physical systems, and not even really, just peculiar states that not so peculiar systems find themselves in, there is little difference between chemical clocks and the activity of the human cellular metabolism

[Anonymous No.11678082]

>>11677986
So, life is not different, simply a group of chemical reactions? I'm not sure exactly what you're saying, but if it's that, then what about the chemical reactions seeks out nutrients for growth, reproduction, etc? Something I'm curious about

[Anonymous No.11678100]

>>11677699
>say you'll be back in a second
>rush to family computer
>Google "shrek fedora meme"
>takes a minute to find a good version
>takes another minute to find the printer app
>slowly print shrek image
>by the time you return, they've forgotten about you
>silently wave shrek picture in front of your face in the direction of mother
>everyone stares blankly

[Anonymous No.11678286]

>>11677586
>batman versus superman debate

Participate, but don't take part
Eat the hamburgers and the hotdogs

[Anonymous No.11678970]

Here's a version of your image without the shitty stock photo text.

[Anonymous No.11679164]

>>11677586
You don't. You're on the way to becoming that member of the family who everyone dreads speaking with at get-togethers because he invariable devolves all dissenting opinions into heady drivel that nobody in the room truly understands, you included, or cares about besides you.
You know who I'm talking about: we all have one--that sad middle aged uncle who brings all conversations back to his crazy ideas of how the government just wants you to think that grandma's pumpkin pie was so much better last year, or that cousin who smells like cat piss and body odor and always comes around with more feminist theory than anybody can palate in an evening of light celebration.
Best advice is to just keep the opinions shelved and talk about some bullshit you don't care about such as the local sports team losing for the 9th game in a row or something

[Anonymous No.11679231]

>>11678100
it would be the perfect comeback and you know it.

>>11678970
that's pretty funny, did you take inspiration from that one old thread? you know, that one?

[Anonymous No.11679255]

>not explaining to your mother the serious challenge the hard problem of consciousness and the measurement problem in quantum mechanics pose to the theory of materialism.

[Anonymous No.11679351]

>>11677586
Well, to be fair to your mom, it's much less fun to snack on popcorn while watching THE COSMOS and Bill Nye, as opposed to while reading The Critique. Your mom is probably an utilitarian as well, and reads pop-sci books. If she was younger, she would probably enjoy rick and morty as well.

Jokes aside, what you should have done is ask why she shat you out of her rancid cunt and didn't off herself yet.

[Anonymous No.11679612]

>>11677586
still dwelling on this after 2 months
you are proving them right

[Anonymous No.11679630]

ffs this was a pretty funny OP but the idiots on lit looking to prove their intellect didn't even recognise the joke

[Anonymous No.11680754]

>>11677602
t. Soul is a desert