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Who's his successor?

>> No.11844186
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>>11844183

>> No.11844188

Depends if you trust the French or not. Bataille and Foucault were Nietzschean

>> No.11844203

I would say J.B Peterson, who has become a "dancing star" so to speak.

I also say this "unironically"

>> No.11844208

>>11844183
Marcus Aurelius

>> No.11844211
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>> No.11844242

me

>> No.11844245

>>11844203
kys

>> No.11844268
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Unironically.

>> No.11844275

>>11844268
This is the best possible answer but I still wouldn't consider him *a* Successor

>> No.11844289
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11844289

Clearly.

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>>11844203

start drinking

>> No.11844352

>>11844268
who

>> No.11844362

Jordan Peterson. He reminds me of him.

>> No.11844387

>>11844183
nietzsche would have hated bataille honestly
he just used nietzsche's philosophy to justify his degenerate lifestyle
nietzsche has no successor
we're still waiting for the second coming of the antichrist

>> No.11844391

>>11844289
in a lot of ways

>>11844352
https://youtu.be/IvBm0ZUfe7I

>> No.11844397

>>11844183
>>11844242
no its me idiot

>> No.11844400

>>11844391
Memerson is such a little bitch, my god

>> No.11844745

>>11844183
He has no successor. The closest successor is someone who tries not to be his successor

>> No.11844765

>>11844183
Heidegger, Foucault, Derrida

>> No.11844773

Alex Kirkegaard

>> No.11844778

>>11844765
/thread

>> No.11844798

>>11844352
Julius Evola.

>> No.11844861

>>11844186
Sentienced & Capitalpilled

>> No.11844891
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>> No.11844941

>>11844183
he hasn't had any successor, all of his supposed successors have merely been attempts to recapture his system either to the benefit of slave morality (foucault and other frenchfags, gay ass jordan peterson, and even in a very unusual and clever roundabout way nick land) or master morality (evola, BAP lmao)

we all intellectually know that nietzsche wanted us to go beyond master/slave morality and into something entirely new, but literally no thinker has ever managed to conceptualize what that would actually mean except me and im not going to tell you :P

>> No.11844975

>>11844745
*who doesn’t try to be

Deliberately trying not to be is slave tier

>> No.11845107

>Who's his successor?

Hitler, Stalin, Mao or anyone who succeeded at becoming "massah".

>inb4 they misread Nietzsche

They had the strongest 'will to power' and recreated the world in their image. Ethics has no say.

Philosophically speaking, Camus overcame nihilism so he'd be his successor in that regard.

>> No.11845122

>>11844268
>>11844275
>>11844798
I haven't really read Evola, but...

>Serious occupation with the symbolic has become a mark of a lower culture. As our arts themselves grow ever more intellectual, our senses more spiritual, and as for example we now adjudge what is pleasant sounding quite differently from the way we did a hundred years ago: so the forms of our life will grow ever more spiritual, perhaps to the eye of earlier ages uglier, but only because it is incapable of seeing how the realm of inner, spiritual beauty is continually growing deeper and wider, and to what extent we may all now accord the eye of insight greater value than the fairest structure or the sublimest edifice.

>When a scholar of the old culture swears to have nothing more to do with people who believe in progress he is right. For the old culture has its goods and greatness behind it and history compels one to admit that it can never be fresh again; one needs to be intolerably stupid or fanatical to deny this.

>Progress in the sense and along the paths of the old culture is not even thinkable. If romantic fantasizings still do designate their goals (e.g. self-contained original national cultures) as “progress”, they nonetheless borrow their image of it from the past: in this domain their thinking and imagining lacks all originality.

>Perhaps some future survey of the requirements of mankind will show that it is absolutely not desirable that all men should act in the same way, but rather that in the interest of ecumenical goals whole tracts of mankind ought to have special, perhaps under certain circumstances even evil tasks imposed upon them. — In any event, if mankind is not to destroy itself through such conscious universal rule, it must first of all attain to a hitherto altogether unprecedented knowledge of the preconditions of culture as a scientific standard for ecumenical goals. Herein lies the tremendous task facing the great spirits of the coming century.

From Human, All Too Human. Does this really fit in with Evola's work?

>> No.11845124

>>11845107
>overcame nihilism
lol what. nihilism is what sets you free. its nothing to "overcome"

>> No.11845253

>>11845124

The problem with Nietzsche's nihilism is that it does not condemn, and dare I say, lend support to the action of those individuals. While Nietzsche himself would have condemned them, the world as he saw it, without a unifying virtue or law, results in the law of 'might is right', 'survival of the fittest', 'will to power'. "If nothing matters, all is permitted".

>> No.11845279

>>11844183
The entire field of postmodernism

>> No.11845312

>>11844186
Niche wasn't idealist.
Land is.

>> No.11845320

his slobbering fanboys will never admit that anyone is capable of ackshyually comprehending daddy neetch so you won’t get an answer

>> No.11845324

>>11845279
This.
Judaism doesn't resent.

>> No.11845355

>>11844891
this

>> No.11845852

witty

>> No.11845873
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>>11845312
>Neetzsche wasn't idealist

>> No.11845965

No! Do not come to me with anyone but Bernard Williams when I am looking for Nietzsche's successor

>> No.11845976
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>>11845279
ding ding

the entire 20C

>> No.11845985

Ron Paul.

End the Fed.

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>>11844773
This

>> No.11846000

>>11845985
anyone who unironically believes in any sort of englightenment ideals is not nietzschean in the slightest

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Visibly fewer NEETzsche threads since I started spamming this so here.

>> No.11846070

It's me

>> No.11846174
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>> No.11846188

postmodernism minus egalitarian ideals

>> No.11846266
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>Derrida

>> No.11846301

>>11844891
those who know, know

>> No.11846304

>>11846174
Is that Sean Connery?

>> No.11846311

Nabokov

>> No.11846813

>>11846063
Wasting time is against my interest, but here: the overman is maximum passable laziness.

>> No.11846848

>>11844941
Uh huh, why wouldn't it be based on the master's morality?

>> No.11846856

His successor is clearly 4chan.org/lit/

>> No.11846891

>>11844765
these

>> No.11848202

>>11845122
I don't think Nietzsche knew very much about Eastern mysticism, which is one of Evola's focuses.
Evola was not really concerned with "symbols" as much as he was concerned with gleaning wisdom from the way people were ordered within systems governed by spiritual laws, as a sort of a retrospective analysis on societies from something like Heidegger's state-as-organism ideas.
Evola shared similar critiques of modernity with Nietzsche, but with the benefit of having been active in both World Wars in one way or another, they are even more relevant now than any of Nietzsche's observations about the social climate of his time.

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>>11844289
No.

>> No.11848325

>>11844773
This is the correct answer

>> No.11848382

>>11846304
kek

>> No.11848772

you have to read nietzsche very selectively to think derrida and foucalt are his intellectual successors.

>> No.11848812

I am a midday sun haha

>> No.11848968
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Jack donovan

>> No.11849207

that one Australian guy

>> No.11850328

>>11844183
The Adorno of the Minima Moralia

>> No.11850419

>>11846848
master morality is fine but it's got little to do with being the overman, which entails going beyond all hitherto existing moralities.

>> No.11850432

>>11848968
tattoos are like demons laughing at you while youre asleep and scribbling inane bullshit on your body

>> No.11851119

>>11844183
That horse that he injected his semen into

>> No.11851145

>>11844183
literally freud

>> No.11851217

>>11846063
It's more useful to have an idiot think of you as a dog than it is for an idiot to think of you as a threat

>> No.11851871

uh,me

>> No.11851894

wittgenstein

>> No.11852317
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>>11844183
Read 'Nietzche Apostle' if you don't believe me.

>> No.11852874

Truediltom

>> No.11853537

People here actually think postmodern philosophers like Derrida, etc. are successors to Nietzsche. The way of thinking of those philosophers is a poison to society. Nietzsche simply told us that there is no objective morality as we know it, only perspectives, and that language doesn’t accurately represent reality. He often wrote, of course, of the philosophers who would succeed him, who would ascend beyond the master slave morality, who would find the more accurate representation of reality.

>> No.11853554

>>11853537
Modernisms notions do derive from Nietzsche’s idea that there isn’t an objective for morals, but what they did was twist it around and make art that turns away from you the more you engage it, they derived a nightmare where language doesn’t actually mean anything anymore, where we all speak a different language. These are all misinterpretations of Nietzsche. His successor hasn’t arrived yet.

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>>11852317
good pick

>> No.11853566

>>11853554
>no morals
>wewww no one could have seen the death of morals coming
How do you corrupt a corrupt philosophy?

>> No.11853575

>>11853566
>How do you corrupt a corrupt philosophy?

tell it it's doing great

>> No.11853579

>>11853575
>t. Thrasymachus Junior Junior Junior ... still hasn't finished the book he starred in

>> No.11854189

>>11853554
>His successor hasn’t arrived yet.
Yes he has (>>11844773) and you are utterly incompetent if you have read both Nietzsche and him and still fail to see this.

>> No.11854516

>>11844891
BRAAAAAAAAAAAP

>> No.11855716

>>11844183
Avram Noam Chomsky

>> No.11855758

>>11844183
/pol/

>> No.11857313

>>11844203
k'ek

>> No.11857618

Kurt Cobain, obviously.

>> No.11857715

Whoever you want?

>> No.11859053

>>11854516
It's not funny when it's a guy. The point of the joke is that women's butts are attractive to the average user and farts are unattractive but come from the aforementioned butts. The distortion caused by this is the source of the humour.

>> No.11859131

>>11859053
I think it's a joke around his initials (BAP).

>> No.11859139

>>11848259
STEM scum here, can you actually tell me what he was trying to convey? Be shallow about it, idk, but aim for brevity.

>> No.11859364

>>11859139
He just wanted us to be critical of how certain ideas developed through time that control how we live our lives.

>> No.11859411

>>11859364
Ty, I'll listen to a lecture with this in mind and try reading him again, it's leisure to me in a sense

>> No.11861118

>>11844765
>dude texts aren't real lmao

>> No.11861242

>>11844183
Postmodernism is the logical continuation of his philosophy. Foucault and Deleuze are two that come to mind that were heavily influenced by Nietzsche.

Still, philosophy after Nietzsche has been mostly footnotes to his thoughts.

>> No.11862500

>>11844387

Bataille is the closest thing to Nietzsche's successor. He was both an artist and a philosopher, and his philosophy greatly expands Nietzsche into ways Nietzsche couldn't, such as the question of death, energy, religion and eroticism.

>> No.11862542

George Bataille freed Nietzsche from his fascist associations and is responsible for his popularity post war