how is reddit so full of nimrods

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Anonymous Tue Nov 13 17:50:07 2018 No.12077198 [Reply] [Original]

how is reddit so full of nimrods

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 17:51:17 2018 No.12077200 >>12077198 Catcher in the Rye is shit but not for the reasons they think it is

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 17:53:01 2018 No.12077208 >>12077198 he legitimately doesnt seem to get the point judging by that last sentence

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 17:53:20 2018 No.12077211 >>12077198 I dunno, laser and colubra get my vote

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 17:54:34 2018 No.12077218 >>12077198 i always related to holden :(

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 17:57:42 2018 No.12077238 >>12077198 Hope those downvotes show them

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 17:58:31 2018 No.12077245 yeah. you guys are so totally distinct from your average redditor

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:00:58 2018 No.12077256 >>12077198 Catcher in the Rye is the worst American "Classic" ever written. And J. D. Salinger was a charlatan, a no-talent hack.

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:01:00 2018 No.12077257

That's nothing, look at any askreddit thread about classic books and see what they say about Great Expectations.
I'm not even a huge Dickens fan, but their reasons for disliking the book are retarded.
They only seem to like Sci-Fi or books for children.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:02:18 2018 No.12077266 >>12077198 didn't know that I had to identify with the main character in order to like the book

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:03:15 2018 No.12077270 >>12077245 we are based and redpilled here anon on the jq and the inferiority of nonwhite races and women you think im a leftypol making a poor satire but i am not

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:03:20 2018 No.12077272 is it that difficult to place things within the time and context they were written?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:05:00 2018 No.12077277 >>12077245 >he doesn’t get it

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:07:28 2018 No.12077288

>>12077198
Look, in order to really "get" this book you've got to be familiar with the circumstances of its composition.

At the time of writing it, Salinger was potentially facing felony rape charges from the mother of a little girl named Alice Turnell. Mrs. Turnell, the mother, was sure that Salinger was not only the rapist but also the murderer of her daughter. Mrs. Turnell had been harassing Salinger for months with the threat of going to the police and it was only due to Salinger's Masonic connections that such charges never came to fruition.

Did Salinger write The Catcher in the Rye as a way of coping with his own personal dilemmas of the time, as a means of staving off the madness that Mrs. Turnell was fueling and trying to break Salinger's mental health with? Possibly. One has to ask: what sort of man would write a book where the protagonist is not only a mental hospital patient (something that Salinger himself was flirting with at the time of the books composition) and a cannibal, but also the rapist of his own little sister?

Obviously this whole aspect of The Catcher in the Rye has been quietly swept out of sight by academia but the whole history is fairly easy to trace, if you go to the right local libraries that still have the news articles documenting the drama. I believe Salinger was sort of a demented madman genius. Did he really rape and murder Alice Turnell and then attempt to exponge his demons through the cathartic writing of a full confession thinly disguised as a novel? To me it is inconsequential. The fact is, Salinger wrote one of the greatest books of the 20th century, and whatever might have driven him to do so must be, when all is considered, excused.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:08:39 2018 No.12077291 Do you think if he got more points and at least 10 more people saw the blood sweat and tears that went into this gripping review of Catcher in the Rye fans he would be less butthurt for whatever reason?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:10:32 2018 No.12077297 >>12077245 Once you have your name on every post, and the only opinions that are heard are from the people with the most accounts, your content and community go down the shitter. At least learn to close the lid.

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:17:07 2018 No.12077330

>>12077198
But Nimrod was a mighty hunter, anon. You may be confusing reality with a Looney Tunes cartoon in which Bugs Bunny calls Elmer Fudd a nimrod. But even in this case, he was sarcastically referring to Mr. Fudd's hunting skills and not his intelligence.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:19:22 2018 No.12077345 In all fairness, hating TCitR because you don't like Holden is still less plebby than thinking it's great because you "identify" with him. >>12077288 10/10, saved

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:20:52 2018 No.12077354 >>12077330 That show will never not be underrated

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:21:52 2018 No.12077357 >>12077288 lel

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:26:18 2018 No.12077379 >>12077288 >exponge based

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:27:31 2018 No.12077386 >>12077345 i think someone who identifies with holden but see this as a reason to change themselves has the best possible outcome of reading cather in the rye

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:32:52 2018 No.12077398 >>12077257 Why dont they like Great Expectations?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:35:33 2018 No.12077409 >>12077330 Based

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:37:51 2018 No.12077421 >>12077270 >we are based and redpilled here cringe and bluepilled

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:38:00 2018 No.12077423 >>12077398 It’s always weirded me out. It was one of my favorite novels when I was a preteen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:49:09 2018 No.12077488 >I didn't identify with the main character >2/5 stars

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:51:36 2018 No.12077503

>>12077245
based/cringe and red/bluepilled . (?)
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it's beautiful desu.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:51:49 2018 No.12077505 >>12077288 Is this true?

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:52:33 2018 No.12077508

>>12077398
It always goes
>What's the worst book you read in school
>Great Expectations - too wordy and boring
>Well, Dickens was paid by the word that why he used so many. We know better know in modern times
And they also complain about Pip being dumb for being obsessed with Estella.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:54:52 2018 No.12077519 >>12077505 Watches for 0$?

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:56:34 2018 No.12077527

>>12077386
I reread it recently (at 23), and found I felt more sympathetic for Holden than I had as a teenager.
Yes, he's a whiny rich privileged teen, but he spends to whole novel just desperate for some human connection, yet is completely isolated from everyone (except maybe his sister).

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 18:58:45 2018 No.12077538 >>12077270 Based

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:00:30 2018 No.12077547

Millennials don't like Catcher because it displays the exact kinds of arrogant and narcissistic attitudes they simultaneously possess and resent. It also doesn't help that it showcases an archetypal adolescent angst and immaturity, leading them to dislike/disagree with the main character (the whole fucking point) and millenials don't like literature if the characters aren't all quirky and validating.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:02:39 2018 No.12077557 >>12077198 >outing yourself as a redditor You have to go back, OP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:03:26 2018 No.12077560 >>12077547 They don't like it because Holden is a catch all for teenage angst and telling a teenager their a teenager is the worst thing you can tell them.

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:04:41 2018 No.12077564

>>12077198
my english teacher accused me of being like Holden while she was trying to seduce me in our 'infirmary'(just a room with a bed)
shed brought me there because i yelled at her in class when she took my bag from(it was full of drugs)
i explained to her that I was going to go into finance and make as much money as possible and was nothing at all like Holden

little did i know that within mere months i would suffer the onset of psychotic depression leading me to have to go to a mental institution eventually. i now regard everyone with extreme suspicion and distrust and think they are plotting against me, a position im told is called paranoia, but how can you trust the phonies anons, you cannot

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:07:02 2018 No.12077572 >>12077564 This exact mislead was in the book

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:12:09 2018 No.12077591 >>12077330 I saw that on reddit!

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:19:44 2018 No.12077621 >>12077270 This, but unironically.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:28:40 2018 No.12077661 normie: i liked catcher in the rye because i identify with holden pleb: i hate catcher in the rye because i dislike holden as a character patrish: the holden character can be appreciated for being palpably rendered ascended: salinger is a hack

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:29:54 2018 No.12077664 >>12077661 ubermensch: Holden sex his sister

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:35:18 2018 No.12077700 >>12077508 Why are they all so fucking dull.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:40:14 2018 No.12077726 >>12077591 >going on reddit

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:41:56 2018 No.12077733 >>12077664 AI integrated cosmic gestalt mind: Holden vores all the characters, that's why you never see them more than once

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:47:59 2018 No.12077752 File: 37 KB, 441x636, casuals 1 .jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12077198

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:48:37 2018 No.12077755 >>12077270 hardcore cringe

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:49:25 2018 No.12077756 you guys realise that 4chan is basically an offshoot of reddit now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:50:53 2018 No.12077762 File: 73 KB, 981x981, angry black kid.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12077756 high iq take. you guys don't want to admit it but it's true. all of you are just E D G Y redditors lmaooooooo

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:54:14 2018 No.12077781 File: 5 KB, 221x250, 1507170463672s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12077756 >I'm a redditor and I use 4chan >4chan is now an offshoot of Reddit

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:57:55 2018 No.12077790 [DELETED]

>>12077762
You'd think that a system that inherently revolving around whoever has the most accounts to upvote themselves would create a hugbox lead by the biggest retards with the most freetime on their hands to write a script that upvotes their on posts. At least here you can choose to sort by creation date and avoid the blatantly rigged system.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:59:08 2018 No.12077795 >>12077270 you're right, but its cringe to say it like that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 20:01:07 2018 No.12077802 >>12077756 4chan was always reddit before reddit was ever reddit.

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 20:01:14 2018 No.12077803

>>12077762
You'd think that a system that inherently revolving around whoever has the most accounts to upvote themselves would create a hugbox lead by the biggest retards with the most freetime on their hands to write a script that upvotes their on posts would spawn an army of basedboy drones or something. We know that your wife didn't buy you that nintendo switch John. Your upvotes are a valueless currency whose main acquisition is the clout of video game porn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 20:02:16 2018 No.12077806 >>12077803 *and

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 20:05:37 2018 No.12077822 >>12077198 Because the redditor is a liberal bugman, that's literally why. Unironically incapable of independent thought.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 20:05:59 2018 No.12077825 >>12077803 I saw you edit this post. Didn't know that was possible on 4chan. Who are you? Be you spirit, ghost, angel, or demon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 20:09:41 2018 No.12077846 >>12077508 Damn. As if I needed another reason to hate reddit

>>	OP Tue Nov 13 20:10:39 2018 No.12077853 >>12077198 >post in r/WritingPrompts a few times >watch as the first post in the thread is constantly upvoted and all the others are almost completely ignored lit remains the only place to post writing for honest critique. Reddit is cancer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 20:11:25 2018 No.12077856 >>12077825 I'm like a superhero, but instead of doing anything I just get mad and make what should be incoherent babbling in the form of angry fist shaking sound like a scalding and profound critique.

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 20:12:45 2018 No.12077863

redditors hate holden because they're all soulless fucks incapable of empathizing or even remembering what it's like to be a young, alienated kid. Add in that many of them are themselves deeply lonely and disconnected from society and desperately try to cope with it through hedonistic consumption of memes and media and you get pic related.

Also, Holden is infinitely cooler than the average redditor could ever be, they resent the character because they know they'll just passively take whatever comes at them and won't be able to even muster a pathetic "rebellion" like Holden does.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 20:35:56 2018 No.12077964 >>12077288 Excuse me for my insolence, but although I recognize that Holden was a self-proclaimed "Sex Maniac", I do not remember him ever being the rapist of his little sister, or even a cannibal. Does anyone have any direct evidence to support this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 20:43:43 2018 No.12077998 >>12077421 >cringe and bluepilled Cringe and redpilled

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 20:52:31 2018 No.12078027 >>12077863 >i was stupid and had no self awareness as a kid and if you claim you were less stupid and had more self awareness then you are incapable of empathy nice

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 21:06:17 2018 No.12078066 >>12077270 You're right, but cringe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 21:16:54 2018 No.12078097 >>12078027 You been using the term self-awareness a while now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 21:17:11 2018 No.12078098 >>12077964 I wanna know too

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 21:21:34 2018 No.12078116 >>12078027 Yes anon, you never faced any inner turmoil growing up, that's why you're so well adjusted and hang out on monoglian yurt construction forums :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 21:27:18 2018 No.12078144 File: 22 KB, 275x183, 0402D387-D312-4714-B815-5598898A3F91.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12077998 >>cringe and bluepilled >Cringe and redpilled Binged and Crüepilled

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 21:28:14 2018 No.12078150 >>12078144 Singed and bedpilled

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 21:49:50 2018 No.12078256 >>12077200 fpbp, what i repeat to myself every time a redditor and i end up sharing an opinion

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 21:56:16 2018 No.12078274 >>12077200 Dubs so must be true Also can you please share why the book is trash. When i read it I found it to be ok but not that far from the crappy novels I picked to have something to read in English.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 22:03:30 2018 No.12078304 >>12077198 We know you regularly use it and still complain about it on 4chan.org or try to be a "contrarian" with downboats, anon, don't even try to hide it. Just go back.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 23:35:03 2018 No.12078731 File: 10 KB, 228x221, jp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12077270 This but unironically Real /lit/erati hate women AND minorities

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 23:39:42 2018 No.12078752 you have no friends here, opinion man

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 23:40:59 2018 No.12078759

>>12077964
(I'm not the guy you're responding to)
I don't think there was a rape bit, but I remember being weirded out in HS by how touchy he was with his little sister. I remember it talking about how much he enjoyed pinching her butt and something else like that, I seemed to be the only one in my class really put off by it though.

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 23:42:45 2018 No.12078765

>>12077398
Too difficult for them to understand, I think, just sentence by sentence. I once heard a girl in my old high school complaining to a friend that that she couldn't understand Pride and Prejudice, and that modern students shouldn't be made to read books that old because it was like reading a different language.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 23:44:24 2018 No.12078776 >>12078765 Must've made you pretty happy to be smart, eh?

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 23:50:13 2018 No.12078820

>>12077964
Holden doesn't just rape his sister - he rapes, murders, dismembers and eats every person he encounters in the book, starting with his roommate (that's why none of them re-appears).

The only one who escapes is actually his history teacher, because his nose-picking disgusts Holden so much he can't maintain an erection and loses his appetite.

The book is a thinly veiled account of Masonic initiation rites. That's the only reason it has become part of the canon.

You have to read between the lines to pick up on this but honestly it's not that hard, assuming you have a proper unexpurgated edition.

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 23:51:12 2018 No.12078827

>>12077198
I don't get how people can dislike Salinger. He's just great. His prose is really good and only got better as he got older. His characters are well rendered. His themes are universal. The stories are well crafted. And he's perhaps the only writer who can pull off being completely earnest and sentimental. He's painful to read in the best way possible.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 23:53:39 2018 No.12078838 File: 443 KB, 894x894, i_shoot_people_in_this_hat_by_kr0npr1nz-d91zoh4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Holden did nothing wrong

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 23:58:59 2018 No.12078868

>>12078827
>He's painful to read in the best way possible.
This. Seymour An Introduction makes me want to cry every time I read it. All those little yet significant moments like when Buddy realizes Seymour is faster but doesn't care because of how much he loved him or when Seymour tells his dad hi still feels like a child riding a bike in the circus. It's so cheesy but the fucker of Salinger just made them work and they pierce into your heart.

Anonymous Wed Nov 14 00:07:49 2018 No.12078905

>>12077547
>millenials don't like literature if the characters aren't all quirky and validating
A look through Goodreads proves this
Every negative review of a classic book, especially one with uncomfortable themes or troubled characters, gets dismissed with something like "I just couldn't relate to the character, he's so unlikable, he does X and Y bad thing, who would want to read that??" Bonus points for one character displaying racist/sexist views, and the reviewer somehow using that as an argument for the author being racist/sexist themselves.
Everything they consume has to have a black and white good guy and bad guy, the less depth the better.
I don't even mean to be all "fucking normies" but it really is baffling. If these people are reading classic literature instead of playing vidya, they're at least trying to exercise their intellect- yet they do so from such a narrow mind with zero self-awareness or reflection of any sort.

Gives me conniptions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 00:15:27 2018 No.12078932 >>12077198 they need to teach the logical fallacies in school jesus christ because apparently they are not common knowledge

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 00:18:23 2018 No.12078943 >the book is bad because I don't "identify with" the main character what the fuck

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 00:21:13 2018 No.12078950 >>12077266 >>12077488 >>12078943 >he reads and likes books with main characters that he hates and can't identify with peak pseud. maybe literature isn't for you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 00:23:07 2018 No.12078963 >>12078905 I blame the good guy bad guy mindset for the downward spiral of politics Kids think it's a literal YA story and work themselves into hysterics over "their side"

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 00:38:35 2018 No.12079032 >>12078950 I "identify with" all characters, as all is one yet none is whole

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 02:08:08 2018 No.12079399 >>12078776 Yes, I am always grateful to be smarter than some retard who can't understand Pride and Prejudice, even though it's basically modern English

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 03:13:44 2018 No.12079607 >>12077270 Noncringe and nonbluepilled

Anonymous Wed Nov 14 03:32:07 2018 No.12079646

I see some of you argue that a dislikeable protagonist does not translate to a bad book. I don't think I ever felt contempt or real dislike* for a protagonist in a work I liked and wonder if my approach is odd.
I guess I do identify to some degree with Holden, maybe even Raskolnikov and maybe, maybe even the underground notes guy but more so than that whenever there is a deeply flawed character - I empathize with their humanity. I really wonder if I'm incapable of utterly rejecting a person in a work but still regard it highly - I can't even imagine what he'd have to do or be like if the the book is sufficiently well written.

*One exception: The Curious Case of the Dog in the Nighttime. Maybe I'd appreciate it more after growing up but I hated this autistic little shit nugget.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 04:22:48 2018 No.12079752 >>12077756 The zoomers here love to pretend otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 04:26:13 2018 No.12079757 >>12078905 That probably has a lot more to do with the kind of person who reads books and then posts a review on goodreads than anything

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 06:23:36 2018 No.12080005 >>12078827 Absolutely. Salinger was master of the feels. It's hard to think of another author who can so consistently induce that sweet-sour gut twinge of sentiment which makes you both despair and rejoice in life.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 06:38:49 2018 No.12080035 >>12077508 triggered

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 06:39:52 2018 No.12080038 >>12077245 we are distinct but not for the reasons you think

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 07:52:52 2018 No.12080167 >>12077198 Why do you go to Reddit in the first place you fucktard Fuck off

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 08:25:10 2018 No.12080235 >>12078827 I am aghast this is a sincere post. CitR is heavy handed as fuck, it almost reads like a caricature of what one could suggest old people think young people think.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 08:29:41 2018 No.12080250 >>12080235 >it almost reads like a caricature of what one could suggest old people think young people think. I don't see how you can possibly call it a "caricature" given how many actual young people have read it and seen perfectly represented in it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 08:30:43 2018 No.12080251 YIKESSSSSSS

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 08:38:27 2018 No.12080273 >>12077354 Loony toons?

Anonymous Wed Nov 14 08:41:27 2018 No.12080283

>>12080250
People also say it told them to kill John Lennon. People say a lot of things. I bet 'young people' wouldn't be half so ready to suggest it represents them if it wasn't known as such, and the reasons why it's known as such are precisely because of this caricature digested and disseminated by critics.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 08:48:50 2018 No.12080304 >>12080235 What do you think is a good literary representation of what a teenager actually is?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 08:51:10 2018 No.12080312 >>12080304 Almost anything is better than CitR. Every YA protagonist is unironically better rendered and closer to an actual teenager than Holden and is no joke.

Anonymous Wed Nov 14 09:01:00 2018 No.12080341

>>12080304
Hard to say, I don't read many books with teenage protagonists. But that doesn't mean I can't recognize a bad one. I was nothing like Holden as a teen, and I don't believe for a second that other people were either beyond some very general principle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 09:10:32 2018 No.12080362 >>12077208 They're probably autistic and don't self-reflect. I have trouble blaming them for not getting it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 09:12:45 2018 No.12080367 >>12077270 LMFAO at all these idiots responding to your bait Wait, shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 09:17:13 2018 No.12080378 >>12077564 10/Underrated

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 09:18:26 2018 No.12080381 >>12077733 Non-Duality: Whom among us hasn't paid a hooker to hold us.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 09:20:18 2018 No.12080387 >>12078116 Friendliest take

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 09:36:30 2018 No.12080445 >>12080341 You sound very autistic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 10:03:17 2018 No.12080521 >>12078820 Hmm.. I guess I would have to see one of these proper editions then. That seems a bit too far gone.

Anonymous Wed Nov 14 10:07:29 2018 No.12080532

>>12079646
Crime and Punishment became one of my favorite books.. not just the writing but my personal empathy and connection to Raskolnikov. It was like see myself with my radical ideas and seeing the inherent humanness and flaws that can occur in each person's worldview.

Anonymous Wed Nov 14 10:23:45 2018 No.12080577

>>12079646
>*One exception: The Curious Case of the Dog in the Nighttime. Maybe I'd appreciate it more after growing up but I hated this autistic little shit nugget.
YA books about autistic protags are always bad. Perks of Being a Wallflower was one of my most hated books as a teen, but my friends loved it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 11:30:05 2018 No.12080773 Catcher in the Rye lacks all merit if you werent a >tfw to smart teen

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 11:33:12 2018 No.12080782 >>12080445 Just the reverse, CitR celebrates lack of self awareness, yes it's intentional, no it isn't authentic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 11:42:29 2018 No.12080826 >>12080445 If you think Holden is emblematic of most teens that's a failing on your part.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 11:46:19 2018 No.12080835 >>12078116 Some of us had happy childhoods met by troubled university years. The chad to virgin pipeline

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 11:49:20 2018 No.12080843 File: 94 KB, 1036x1200, 4ai.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12080773 >tfw too smart for Catcher in the Rye

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 11:51:09 2018 No.12080848 >>12080843 imagine being raised with a dose of humility and good-will. What does catcher offer you if you're uninterested in the prose?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 11:53:04 2018 No.12080856 >>12080826 Besides the fact that you're blatantly an autistic pseud and claim you know a well written character better than Salinger, don't you think be hardheaded and naive is something you can relate to in any way at all?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 11:54:18 2018 No.12080859 >>12080848 Stick to amateurs then.

Anonymous Wed Nov 14 12:05:18 2018 No.12080888

>>12080856
I'm not even the same person you were talking too, I never made any claims about knowing better than Salinger. I spent my adolescence surrounded by unassuming people. When we read Catcher for school it resonated as much as reading Chinua Achebe writing about yams. Of course everyone is hardheaded and naive, that is universal. But imagining Holden as the perfect rep of American adolescence is just limited.

Can you appreciate/study protags different from you, or unlikeable? Of course. Are people who don't find Holden the essential American teen projecting pseuds? Nah.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 12:07:25 2018 No.12080898 >>12080835 me

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 12:13:16 2018 No.12080914 >>12080898 we'll climb back up the mountain brother

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 12:27:53 2018 No.12080971 >>12078144 me on the left

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 15:39:05 2018 No.12081715 >>12077756 /lit/ isn't part of 4chan proper

Anonymous Wed Nov 14 17:29:26 2018 No.12082311

>>12077661
An actually strong reader:
The work's attention to symbol on varying levels, tone, the consistency of style, and (it's greatest attribute) another addition to a very short list of quality "quiet tragedy" as a character study. The words he says and uses as a narrator are not anywhere near the dialogue that Salinger himself would typically use. The dialogue is all representative of character and zeitgeist, not compiled of flexing prose (like that of Camus, which is probably why most redditors and /lit/ [aka redditors] don't like the novel)

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 19:37:06 2018 No.12082966 >>12077198 >I for one Also >with their nose in the air Well where else should it be?

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/lit/ - Literature