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Why did he an hero?

>> No.12354634

>>12354632
Because he was a pussy ass bitch who couldn't handle his own success

>> No.12354636

clinical depression

>> No.12354639

>>12354632
he lurked /lit/ for five minutes

>> No.12354673

Ugly, depression, fear that IJ was his peak and he wouldn't be able to meet his and everyone else's extremely high expectations

>> No.12354678

>>12354634
not this

>>12354636
this

>> No.12354694

>>12354673
bullshit, mr squishy was his peak

>> No.12354695

>>12354632
He faked his death

>> No.12354699

he was too intelligent and felt many feels in consequence.

>> No.12354701

>>12354632
Lame attempt to get people to read his books

>> No.12354743

>>12354678
It's the same and you know it.

>> No.12354747

>>12354632
yup

>> No.12354749
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12354749

>>12354673
>ugly

he was fairly handsome 2bh

>> No.12354750

>>12354632
He couldn't handle that he had no discernible talent.

>> No.12354751

>>12354632

he was sick of being a fucking meme

>> No.12354773
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>>12354749
Why the actor is much uglier than real one? Was it conditioned on his will?

>> No.12354785

>>12354773
Me on the left

>> No.12354794

>>12354785
did you get his autograph?

>> No.12354801

>>12354785
moot?

>> No.12354802

>>12354673
sad

Oblivion was amazing

>> No.12354821

>>12354632
His depression was pretty clear from nearly all of his writings. Someone who feels complete despair while on a luxury cruise or visiting a state fair is always going to be fighting an uphill battle against life.

>> No.12354830

>>12354773
was he actually tall?

>> No.12354833

>>12354632
read Good Old Neon mate he pretty much fuckin tells ya

>> No.12354849

>>12354830
apparnetly

>“He was big. Like he was tall, the mane, his presence. He was big.” With a startlingly vocabulary at her disposal I always thought that was an interesting way of kicking off the description: “big.”

archive.vn/w3RYU

>> No.12356253

>>12354830
>>12354849

He was 6ft.

Source: Autopsy report, http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/david-foster-wallace-autopsy

>> No.12356268

>>12354694

I love Mister Squishy! I never really see people talk about it but it is one of my favourites.

>> No.12356326

>>12354632
drugged his whole adult life, drugs stopped working
depression is the worst disease, it’s anhedonia
watch that atheist monkey lover Sapolsky depression YouTube
depression is as real as juvenile diabetes
scientists know about 4 neurotransmitters that we need more of

>> No.12356329

>>12354673
He looked absolutely normal

>> No.12356335

>>12354632
Depression caused psycho-motor retardation:
—move slowly
—speak slowly
—everything requires great effort and concentration
I’m basically a retard like at Lambs’ Farm

>> No.12356393

>>12354849
alpha af

>> No.12358112

To end the facade caused by his fraudulence.

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>>12354749
He's good-looking. He didn't give a shit about his appearance later on so had lots of stubble and straggly hair, but it's messy and cute in a nerdy way.

>> No.12358801

>>12354833
After reading Good Old Neon the only short straight quick answer I can think is this >>12354699 he was incredible meta about his intelligence, receptive to every little detail about him and his surroundings, the kind of awareness that leads to a self deprecating saudade state 24/7. I just want to belive something was wrong in his brain (hence the TV addiction) being unable to control intense painful self awareness results in suicide for sure.

>> No.12358827

>>12358155
Dude the person in that photo is hideous. t. chad

>> No.12359075

Some reason they all do, he was a coward

>> No.12359102

His brain was chemically misfiring in many cylinders

>> No.12359111

He had been taking psychotropic drugs for almost all of his life, by the end of it he probably didnt feel human anymore

>> No.12359126

...eventually the drugs stop working. And then it’s worse than it was before.

>> No.12359137

>>12354833
>>12358801

>tfw an overachiever
>suddently became christian and now i don't give a fuck about expectation of other people
>feeling on the back of my head i will soon be an underachiever but don't give a fuck at all, just want to do right when it's needed

>> No.12359239
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>>12359137
>tfw I went from being someone who was there because he wanted to wake up and stop being a fraud to being somebody who was so anxious to impress the congregation with how devoted and active I was that I volunteered to help take the collection, and never missed one study group the whole time, and was on two different committees for coordinating fund-raising for the new aquarial altar and deciding exactly what kind of equipment and fish would be used for the crossbeam. Plus often being the one in the front row whose voice in the responses was loudest and who waved both hands in the air the most enthusiastically to show that the Spirit had entered me, and speaking in tongues — mostly consisting of d ’s and g’s—except not really, of course, because in fact I was really just pretending to speak in tongues because all the parishioners around me were speaking in tongues and had the Spirit, and so in a kind of fever of excitement I was able to hoodwink even myself into thinking that I really had the Spirit moving through me and was speaking in tongues when in reality I was just shouting ‘Dugga muggle ergle dergle’ over and over. (In other words, so anxious to see myself as truly born-again that I actually convinced myself that the tongues’ babble was real language and somehow less false than plain English at expressing the feeling of the Holy Spirit rolling like a juggernaut right through me.) This went on for about four months. Not to mention falling over backward whenever Pastor Steve came down the row popping people and popped me in the forehead with the heel of his hand, but falling over backward on purpose, not genuinely being struck down by the Spirit like the other people on either side of me (one of whom actually fainted and had to be brought around with salts). It was only when I was walking out to the parking lot one night after Wednesday Night Praise that I suddenly experienced a flash of self-awareness or clarity or whatever in which I suddenly stopped conning myself and realized that I’d been a fraud all these months in the church, too, and was really only saying and doing these things because all the real parishioners were doing them and I wanted everyone to think I was sincere

>> No.12359264

>>12359239

>thinks i go to church
>thinks i believe in open expressions of devotion and doesn't realize a real christian sees them as vanity
>hasn't even read job

just lmfao

>> No.12359268

He knew that he hadn't any talent.

>> No.12359275

>>12358155
He wasn't really my type, but I think he had beautiful eyes. Nice smile, too. He just need a bt of a clean up.

>> No.12359280

because dis is wader xDDD

>> No.12359293

>>12358155

Who cares, if you are tall you are already settled, hell if he was tall he could look like winters in band of brothers, if he was short he would look gimpy as fuck

His issue was to focus on humanities, if he went to STEM he would have been crushed by the extreme weight of competition of other autist and he would have the existential revelation that he isn't right about himself

>> No.12359364

>>12359293
>if he went to STEM he would have been crushed by the extreme weight of competition of other autist and he would have the existential revelation that he isn't right about himself

Wew, i havent been slapped like this since grade school

>> No.12359366

>>12354634
what success though

>> No.12359385

>Pre-08
Internet hasn't went to shit, social media wasn't as big as it is now, everything is fun and has that hopeful feeling and ignorance to what is about to come
>DFW suicides
Internet is ruined, media is all terrible, internet is now in mainstream and mass populace hands and worse than it was beyond recognition


I reckon the internet itself was Infinite Jest, when you think about it it pretty much is an entity like the Infinite Jest movie. Something that's so addictive we just can't help but look even further away from it while neglecting reality. I think this is one of the reasons why he killed himself.

>> No.12359409

>>12359385
He killed himself because he was a walking bottle of antidepressants and not a human being

>> No.12359448
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12359448

Do you think Hal ever recovers from his autism, and is able to communicate again? I like to think that he does.

Also, what caused it? Mold or DMZ?

>> No.12359496

>>12359448

innapropriate cuppa frog usage, you have been fined 3 pseud points.

also to the topic at hand: i believe DFW killed himself because of the good old neon vibe, and the fact that he hit a bad point in his antidepressants (they just stopped working because of his wife or smth, somethin went wrong in the treatments that made them not work / work adversely anyway).

now, that much is fairly certain: but the true reason he gave up must have been something deeper. The above is the direct cause; but there is probably something in his very soul that caused him to go down this route. My question is, was he a good person? Was he a shark, a barbed writer that carved his way through cornell harvard and more with the teeth of a networking soulless "artist" like modern people, or was he genuinely such a good person, that once he got to fame and critical success, his writing borne out, he couldn't stand to find that the world around him was communicating with him as if he were fake?

>> No.12359520

>>12359409

That too plus the internet thing. I think DFW saw a little bit of himself in Andre Gregory.

>> No.12359566

>>12359448
i think he has the tism because his senpai is truly fucked and he can't emotionally handle it

>> No.12359618

>>12354632
Couldn't make it into the canon

>> No.12359667

>why did he kill himself
>long discussion about his looks

are you all teenage girls?what a fucking cancerous board of elitist cunts, you are herd mentality to the core.

>> No.12359685

>>12359667
it just hit me as i contemplated my comment, all this shit is herd mentality, i don't need this site to teach me how to behave! FUUUCK AHHH

>> No.12359691

>>12359618
/lit/let here, dont shit on me too hard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_American_Novel
what merit does being on this (admittedly arbitrary) list have?

>> No.12359720

>>12359691
>tfw born British
>tfw can't write the Great American Novel

Oh well at least I was born in Yorkshire

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>>12354632
>Why did he an hero?
Once he started banging Ruby, it was just a matter of time. His false chadness could never hope to survive in the shadow of her very real nihilism.

>> No.12359816

>>12359448
Imagine if he hadn’t been forced to quit Bob Hope. When he was smoking he had excellent grades and had a meteoric rise in his tennis game, becoming something of a genius on court. But when he Abandoned All Hope, all that went to shit

>> No.12360965

When would you say Hal REALLY began to become mentally unstable?

>> No.12360973

>>12354632
Because he was sad when Wardine b crie :(

>> No.12360992

>>12354694
No, Good Old Neon.

>> No.12361318

>>12360965
After he Abandoned All Hope

>> No.12361903

>>12354821
FUCK, this has started happening to me

>> No.12361922

too kawaii to live

>> No.12361936

>>12354632
because life sucks

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>>12354632
He was clinically depressed, decided that the drugs weren't working, skipped his anti-depressants for a couple of months, decided things were better on the drugs and finally killed himself when said drugs didn't live up to the expectations he'd had of them.
Or maybe he just ran out of audience pussy.

>> No.12361980

>>12358801
>being unable to control intense painful self awareness results in suicide for sure
uh-oh

>> No.12362350

>>12354632

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f-Q9GHmJGc

He talks about it in Good Old Neon.

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>>12354773
Eternal moot