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>be christian
>read this
>become atheist
who else?

>> No.12423932
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12423932

You read it incorrectly. Try again.

>> No.12423951

Me sort of. The grand inquisitor kind of fucked me up.

>> No.12424456

>>12423951
The grand inquisitor argues for the "Brave New World". Do you really think this would be a good idea? Is happinesses, security, and the freedom from suffering really so vitally important that we should want to turn humanity into the static childish cattle society Huxley describes? What would be the point of it all? I'd rather have some kind of anti-natalist omnicide. The sad truth is: Life without suffering and change is not worth living because life itself will inevitably deteriorate into a weak, dull, infantile mess without higher thoughts and feelings, no real art, no real love, no real accomplishments, nothing. Suffering and change are a part of life and in order to suppress them you have to suppress life itself into a sad corrupted state in-between life and death. Considering this, is God really that evil for making live hard and uncertain, even cruel sometimes?

>> No.12424471

>>12423923
The opposite for me

>> No.12424944

That book simultaneously BTFO’s both atheists and Christians.

>> No.12424957

>>12423923
>be non religious
>read TBK
>still non religious

>> No.12425071

>>12424944

i became Muslim after reading it

>> No.12425105

>>12423923
>read this
>not finish it

who else?

>> No.12425648

>>12423923
it's an anti-catholic book, not anti-christian

>> No.12425674

>>12425071
i converted to judaism after reading this.

>> No.12425908

>>12423923
You read it backwards

>> No.12426113

>>12424456
spoooky

>> No.12426139

>>12423923
my dad is super religious, has worked for religious institutions all his life and this is his favorite book of all time

>> No.12426143

>>12423923
>Be non Christian
>Read that
>Still non Christian

>> No.12426146

>>12426139
Your dad has good taste then.

>> No.12426150

>>12425071
I became tengriist after reading it

>> No.12426158

>>12424456
I've never thought of it this way. I will have to sleep on it.

>> No.12426199

>>12423951
That is the best buy of writing I have ever encountered. Like most others, it blew me away.

>> No.12426255

>>12423923
The only part of TBK i really liked was all the bits involving Dmitri getting drunk and ranting about stuff
honourable mention to Ivan's autism

>> No.12426311

>>12423923
What book has the opposite effect?
Inb4 the Bible

>> No.12426337

>>12424456
Tfw 4chan users make more sense than mainstream media...sigh.

>> No.12426338

>>12426311
The God Delusion

>> No.12426377

>>12426311
Ironically, the same book. You can read the Grand Inquisitor parable - it is a centrepiece of the book, but a standalone story.

>> No.12426622

>>12423923
>Satan wants to give Jesus unlimited power
>Jesus has no argument as to why that would be bad, so he just says "back off, Satan"
LMAO

>> No.12426626

>>12423923
brainlet take

>> No.12426682

>>12423923
>raised catholic
>became atheist
>read this
>became orthodox

Who else?

>> No.12426704

>>12426139
Book is great, its actually pro christianity and Alyosha is second most holy character in the whole lit cannon second only to Jesus

>> No.12426969
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12426969

>>12426704
>Implying its not the Elder

>> No.12427429

>>12426255
Agreed on Ivan's autism. Crime and Punishment left more of a dent with me. I will prob need to re-read both soon enough, brainlet that i am

>> No.12427452

>>12426704
False, Don Quixote is the second most holy character in the canon

>> No.12427567

>>12424456
While I see where youre coming from, I didnt really read it that way. To me it impressed about how devilishly sly Satan is, how worldly institutions are fallible without Gods intervening, and that perhaps god intends for man to exist in a state of open mystery rather than a retreat into creeds. It also made a strong association between intellect and the demonic, which I am beginning to notice in many places. Perhaps most of all it was troubling because Dosto, supposedly a knight of faith, wrote it, and I find it hard to believe he could write so seriously from that angle without having ventured there with his own mind and soul.

>> No.12427616

>>12427452
How so? The man was delusional.

>> No.12427631

I need some help and Im gonna ask here since you all are talking about Russian lit.

On my to read list i have the money for either a
collection of Russian works that includes (badly translated):
Fjodor Dostojevskij - A silly mans dream
Nikolaj Gogol - A fools notes
Anton Tjechov - The bride
Michail Bulgakov - Ray of life

OR i can buy Notes from the underground.
What do you think?
Between Karamazov and crime and punishment i liked the latter the most.

>> No.12427707

>>12427631
You can almost certainly find a used copy of Notes for like 4 dollars.

>> No.12427721

>>12425105
Me too

>> No.12428399

>>12427631
Honestly think you should go read The Idiot instead to be honest

>> No.12428460

>>12424456
But if one has the guarantee to live a happy life without caring about real things why would the real things matter?

>> No.12429788

>>12426969
based

>> No.12429798

>>12423923
If you didn't become Raelian you read it wrong

>> No.12429826

If the book didn't reinforce your beliefs you read it wrong.

>> No.12429839

>read the idiot
>become christian again

>> No.12429849

>>12423923
>be atheist
>read this
>become christian
who else?

>> No.12429937

>>12429849

>> No.12429946

Book is overrated. I found Holes to be a better read

>> No.12430089

>>12426199
And Tolstoy would be the circuit city of writing