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>Why yes I’m bilingual, how did you know?

Lmao, can you really call yourself /lit/ if you’re a simple mono-lingual?

>> No.12429087
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12429087

>No I can't speak Japanese, but when I watch an anime I can understand the gist without subtitles

>> No.12429094

/lit/ is an English language imageboard.

>> No.12429096

>>12429069
>not trilingual
pathetic

>> No.12429136

>>12429069
What matters is not the quantity of languages but the quality of that language's literature. Being able to understand Russian, German, or Chinese texts in their original form is much more impressive than being able to speak several languages all of which have very little to their name.

>> No.12429145

In no particular order

Russian, French, and German are the most /lit/ languages. If you don’t know at least one of these three, you don’t belong here

>> No.12429153

>>12429094
Whore

>> No.12429169

>>12429153
You seriously need to go back.

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>>12429069
>anything less than trilingual

>> No.12429174

>>12429069
Seriously, anyone that's less than quadlingual should consider suicide. Are you guys even trying?

>> No.12429176

>>12429069
To be bilingual is /litty/, it's beyond /lit/

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>non-omniglots discussing language.
Haha it's cute when you guys do this.

>> No.12429278

Spanish - French - English master race.

>> No.12429290

I speak C, python, javascript and English.

I dont know any of those useless languages idiots learn to make themselves smarter.

>> No.12429302

Spanish
English
French
Catalan

Learning German and Mapudungun (oh god why)

>> No.12429318

Bilingual at minimum is normal for Europe.

>> No.12429432
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12429432

English
French
Czech
Russian

If you don't know a Slav language you might as well kys

>> No.12429451

>>12429069
>2019
>speaking and not grunting

>> No.12429452
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>>12429069
Uncomfortable truth: You literally can't say you are knowledgeable of the Western Canon unless you can read both Greek and Latin

>> No.12429483

Bilingual is cope tier to just shit on anglos, if you dont know at least three languages you arent /lit/

>> No.12429497

>>12429223
Say something in Swahili right now

>> No.12429504

>>12429069
These images disturb the fuck out of me

It's the uncanny valley but magnified about 40p times

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>>12429452
I'm working on it.

>> No.12430091

>>12429169
You're telling me

>> No.12430092
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>people who call themselves "bilingual" but can't even pass as a native in both languages

>> No.12430114

>>12429069
you can see the top of his pee pee i think

>> No.12430154

>>12429069
I'm pretty proficient at French and learning Russian right now but it's hard.

>> No.12430156

>>12429504
I was wanking to this before u said that and I noticed it's digital...
almost done.

>> No.12430182

>>12429318
No it's not. Learning some broken English or a bit of a neighbouring country's language is not bilingualism. There are many that are, though, just as there are many Africans that are due to the amount of languages they have (often French and Arabic as interlangs alongside dozens of African languages).

>> No.12430197

Most "bilingual" fags speak their own language plus a depressing version of English.

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>>12429069
how you compare to the belgian master race I speak and read 4 languages

>> No.12430455

>>12429290
>Hi Anon!
> printf("Hello World");
unless you talk like this then you only SPEAK one

>> No.12430471

>>12430394
muh little grey cells

>> No.12430478
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>>12429069
Who here is fluent in the most obscure language? Old English here.

>>12429318
I hate yuros, but I gotta give them props for pushing English real hard in their schools. Not all of them know English, sure, but every yuro I met there who had a triple-digit IQ spoke fluent English on top of their national language. In some places, trilingualism is actually commonplace.

>> No.12430513

>>12430478
>fluent in a dead language

>> No.12430514

Stop impersonating me!

>> No.12430538

arabic, French, Spanish, English

its easy to speak several languages when they belong to the same family. try learning a completely different language like arabic or Chinese

>> No.12430876

>>12429497
"Hakuna matata". It's a wonderful phrase.

>> No.12430886

I'm bad at german
I am therefore master race in both senses

>> No.12430889

>>12429497
"Hakuna matata". It ain't no passing craze.

>> No.12430890

>>12429069
Who even is mono-lingual outside of burgerland

>> No.12430892

>>12430890
japs
chinese
any english native speakers
russians

>> No.12430895

>>12430892
Pretty sure japs have english classes in school. Their school system is just shit.

>> No.12430897

>>12429069
Holy crap you're bragging about being bilingual? ... lol

>>12429302
>spanish
>french
>catalan
those are all the same language mate. you might as well add portuguese and italian in there, makes no difference.

>>12429318
>>12430182
Bilingul may not be the norm, but it's pretty mainstream, and expected of anyone who's at least middle class.

>> No.12430909

>>12430895
doesn't mean they're bilingual

>> No.12430911

>>12429069
Fucking bragging about being bilingual.
Americans are literal garbage.

>> No.12430918

>>12429432
English
Polish
Russian
Ukrainian
Belarusian
Czech
Lithuanian (a little bit)

what did I win?

>> No.12430920

>>12430892
also french

>> No.12430922

>>12430920
don't they all speak Arabic

>> No.12430924

>>12430918
>Russian
>Ukrainian
>Belarusian
Ha ha ha.

>> No.12430925

>>12430918
victory vodka from a tin can

>> No.12430932

>>12430922
don't believe all the meems you read on the internet

>> No.12430962

>>12429145
This

>> No.12431089

>>12430897
>Catalan is the same as a romance language
The eternal pseud

>> No.12431292

>>12429087
Jesus this is me. I haven't even watched that much anime lately

>> No.12431304

>>12429290
I hope you know every built-in function and data structures in those languages otherwise you are just meme-ing

>> No.12431327

>>12430897
>middle class
Middle class normally is bilingual but lower classes tend to have more (Turks who speak German and Italian and English and Swedish, scumbag kids who speak Spanish Dutch French and German and could have come from anywhere, even gypsies learn to beg in three tongues minimum). The middle class is least likely to be fluent, but that's because they travel less

>> No.12431331

>>12431089
How is it different? Most words are the incredibly similar, and they conjugate incredibly similarly.
And it is also literally a Western romance language dervied from Latin. It's not even as different as German is from French - Catalan is as different from Spanish as French is from Spanish.

And of course, none of these languages are as different from each other as they are from, say, Arabic.

>> No.12431353

>>12431331
>Romance languages are all the same thing
Yes, that's why everyone understands Romanian

>> No.12431354

>>12431327
That's actually a very good point. I guess I don't fraternize with the plebs

>> No.12431364

>>12431354
Yeah if one of their five languages isn't ancient Greek, they want to steal your phone and shoes is a good rule for Europe

>> No.12431386

>>12431353
>Romance languages are all the same thing
No. But French, Spanish, Catalan, Portueguese, Italian are basically all the same language. If you speak any of those languages, you will be able to read and understand 90% of Catalan (especially French), and if you spend, say a month, you will be able to fully understand it.

>> No.12431406

>>12431386
No they're not. Spanish speakers have a harder time understanding Catalan and Portuguese than they do French, and Italians find Castillian easier than Romanian. If you solely read those languages, you can discern some cognates. But Romanian and Portuguese don't use the same phonetics, so what look like similar words to a non speaker are entirely different to someone speaking or listening to the language. It's why people who speak Spanish complain learning Catalan is harder than learning Italian or French.

>> No.12431418

>>12431386
Also, Catalan speakers will start speaking Spanish to you if you use a Castilian phrase where a Catalan one exists. The chances are you're understanding a lot because they stopped speaking Catalan to you. It's kind of notoriously insular. Like Basque is barely intelligible to some Spanish and French speakers who live in Basque country because the Basques won't give them exposure to the language.

>> No.12431425

>>12431386
>>12431406
>>12431418
If you speak any romance language and can't understand the others you are retarded

>> No.12431429

>>12431425
>I've never been to these countries but I assure you I know better than the native speakers and linguists
K

>> No.12431513

>>12431406
>Spanish have a harder time understanding Catalan and Portuguese than they do French
You realize most people in the world don't have this luxury, right? that's the scale that I'm taking into consideration when comparing these languages. Like just because you know Turkish, doesn't mean you can understand 90% of your neighbors' languages like Arabic or Greek.You'd be lucky if you made out one word in a whole conversation, like "justice" (which has similar roots in turkish + arabic) or "okra" (which is the same in turkish + greek)

But a French speaker can understand most of what someone is saying in Spanish and Portuguese and Italian and Catalan if the speaker is speaking slowly. Really, we're not talking "maybe make out one word because they share a similar root?" we're talking "everyone understands at least 50% of conversations in each other's languages if they're speaking slowly" and for pairs like Italian and Spanish, that's like 90%. Without ever taking one single class or looking up one single word or conjugation in that language.

If you can understand 90% of another language, and one day decide to study that language and afterwards say "oh I speak Spanish and Italian," it's really not an impressive feat in any way. You speak Mandarin and Arabic? Now that's something worth mentioning.

>> No.12431660

>>12429432
>>12430918
I started learning russian a while ago. Is it possible to comprehend other slav books knowing only russian?

>> No.12431680

>>12431425
Brazilian here, can comprehend spanish if slow spoken and in easy texts. It's possible to understand some italian words. Quite hard to understand something in french. Impossible to decipher romanian

>> No.12431714

>>12429145
Know German, currently working on Russian. It's hard desu

>> No.12431729

>>12430478
I can read Ancient Greek, Middle English and some Middle High German. I really regret not learning Latin though..

>> No.12431767

>>12431513
>Let me pretend Farsi nor Greek exist in ancient forms all along Alexander and the Safavids routes
No, you're just telling me you don't know anything about those regions either. There are places all the way to India which understand Alexander's Greek better than mainland Greece which went the lisping way of Ionic.
You're also ignoring how much more common it is to speak Mandarin as a Lingua Franca and Cantonese or Sichuan or Malay or English or Arabic at home in the east, along with ignoring India's propensity to have three local languages and Muslims. Seriously, look at the Muslim population to the east of Europe and think about how retarded your idea nobody speaks Chinese and Arabic as their work and religious languages while speaking a different set of native languages for everything else.

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>>12431714
I am convinced Russian grammar rules were forged at Mount Doom, it's a special kind of hell

As a side note
>Bilingual is "impressive"

Will you Amerishits just get off this board already? Or at least get the decency to have a decent public education lmao

>> No.12431898

>>12429145
And if any of those is your native language it doesn't count

>> No.12431909

>>12429069
Better to master a single language than to learn antiquated retard languages

>> No.12431934

>>12431909
Most people ITT are mentioning actual alive and functioning languages, the only ones mentioning ancient greek are shitposts

that's the joke

>> No.12431966

>>12429069
Cuz Anglisky and Burger do not read oga booga

>> No.12432084

>>12431767
>Let me pretend Farsi nor Greek exist in ancient forms all along Alexander and the Safavids routes
I don't get how or why I would pretend in such a way. It has no relevance to my original point.
>There are places all the way to India which understand Alexander's Greek better than mainland Greece
okay cool
>You're also ignoring how much more common it is to speak Mandarin as a Lingua Franca and Cantonese or Sichuan or Malay or English
I'm ignoring that because my point is about how unimpressive it is to call yourself a bilingual when, for example, you only speak Spanish and Italian.
>Ignoring India's propensity to have three local languages and Muslims
OKay?
>Look at the Muslim population to the east of Europe and think about how retarded your idea nobody speaks Chinese and Arabic as their work and religious languages while speaking a different set of native languages for everything else
I did not understand this sentence. I don't get what you think my idea is. Maybe you should work on your English a little bit?

I'll restate my original position so that you can understand it better: from the start my point has been about how unimpressive it is for someone to learn a new language that is extremely similar to one's native language. I don't consider it remarkable in any way that a person who knows French has decided to study and learn Spanish, because learning Spanish is relatively easy if you know French and doesn't count (at least for me) as "learning a new language" becuase it will involve practically none of the difficulties that say, learning Tagalog requires when you only know Farsi. I really, really don't get your point, and I don't think you get mine.
I don't know what all this postulating about my ignorance of India's local languages have to do with anything.

>> No.12432185

>>12432084
>I don't get how or why I would pretend in such a way. It has no relevance to my original point.
Because the spread of those languages is comparable to the spread of Latinate languages by the Romans (i.e. the spread of Romance)
>>12432084
>ignoring that because my point is about how unimpressive it is to call yourself a bilingual when, for example, you only speak Spanish and Italian.
Only the difference between Spanish and Catalan would be comparable to the difference of Cantonese to Mandarin, or Spanish and Italian phonetic differences comparable to the non mutually intelligible dialects of Sichuan. You're ignoring it because linguistics says you're wrong as does anyone who knows how to pronounce the languages you're claiming to know despite not speaking them.

>I did not understand this sentence. I don't get what you think my idea is. Maybe you should work on your English a little bit?
Far more people on the globe have mastered both Arabic and Mandarin along with a third language of a different language group compared to the population than can understand both Spanish and Italian. I'm saying the bilingualism you claim Spanish confers does not exist on this planet, and the bilingual grouping you would be surprised at (mandarin and Arabic) is highly common especially because those languages were designed like koine and Latin to be languages of empire, and so tend to propagate their most common 800 words like a US army slideshow operator. (Yes I know that is going to be a complex sentence for you, but you are dumb so veering outside the most common eight hundred is always a risk for comprehension)

>> No.12432346

>>12431386
is this what youbtell yourself so you dont actually learn languages? God the audacity of autism

>> No.12432394

My native language is Spanish and I'd like to learn French. Should I prepare myself for a hard challenge or will I have a relatively easy time?

>> No.12432513

>>12432185
Mate, you really have to improve your writing. I finally get what you're saying though.

>you are dumb
Hmm. I don't think so. At least, your logic isn't superior to mine, because if you were smarter than I am you'd realize you're not necessarily providing a counterargument to my claim, what you're talking about is another argument entirely, that is nonetheless connected.
I'll make it simple, since your grasp of English is obviously not that strong.

What I'm saying is: it's not impressive if you say you're bilingual, and you only know languages that are similar to each other, like Spanish and Italian.
What you're saying is: there are a lot of people who know different languages (like Mandarin and Arabic), that you say is impressive to learn, because of how far these languages have spread.

The arguments don't contradict each other, but they do add up nicely. The final argument becomes: it's not that impressive if you know two languages that are similar, nor is it inecessarily impressive if you know two languages that are different, but are spoken in the same region (like Hindi and English)

>>12432346
I know French and Spanish. I can understand Italian Portuguese and Catalan at a conversational level. And yes, that is what I tell myself so I don't learn those languages. It seems redundant, and I'm not that enamored with their cultures.

>> No.12432841

French
Spanish
Italian
Latin
English
German
Modern Greek
Ancient Greek

really wanna learn a non indo-european language next.

>> No.12432901

>>12432394
go all half assed in a few years you'll understand it. t. mexican

>> No.12432944

>>12431888
>talks about education
>post is in poor english
Lol europoors