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Qur'an reading group. Plan is to read three Surahs a day. If you read a translation, you can use any one you want, but the most renowned English ones are Arberry, Pickthall, and Yusuf Ali. Only thing I would urge is that you stay away from Wahhabi or modernist translations. A good yardstick to detect the latter is verse 4:34 (and for your information, Ali putting "lightly" as a gloss in there is not modernist, his glosses are simply Sunni understanding, Sunni Islam forbids striking your wife in the face or hard enough to leave a mark).

We can convene again in a week, search for this titled thread

Arberry translation (he is not a Muslim which is why he has no glosses)
https://archive.org/details/QuranAJArberry

Pickthall

https://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/pick/index.htm#contents

Yusuf Ali

http://www.islam101.com/quran/yusufAli/

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>>12820873

>> No.12820877

>>12820875
based

>> No.12820893

No, Muslims, please fuck off from this board

>> No.12820897

>>12820875
Muslims don't do this with the Bible

>> No.12820905

>>12820897
100% chance that pic was taken by an atheist t b q h w y f m l

>> No.12820916

>>12820897
Christians don't worship the Bible as God

>> No.12820917

>>12820905
True, or perhaps a Protestant

>> No.12820921

>>12820905
How do you know it wasn't an American Christian?

>> No.12820922

>>12820875
unequivocally based and wonderfully red-pilled

>> No.12820924

I'll spam this just like the IJ one

>> No.12820925

>>12820873
Great idea OP.

>> No.12820929

>>12820916
Muslims don't think paper or ink or sound is God. However if you believe a book is literally dictated by God, word by word, you would of course treat it extremely respectfully, as you do with your flags and graves

>> No.12820940

>>12820925
ty, hope it takes off

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>>12820929

>> No.12820942

>>12820921
I'm American and I've never seen anyone eat bacon with peppers.
Also, if it were an American, why is the text in Arabic? ALSO, my stool isn't as dark as theirs so I don't think this person was subscribed to the American diet. It should be slushier.

ALSO, I can't name a single Christian porn star who does scat.

>> No.12820946

>>12820921
New Atheism is essentially the English Dissenters on steorids

>> No.12820950

>>12820942
>Christian pornstar

>> No.12820960

>>12820941
Imagine if that artist actually had the dedication to his craft the calligrapher had

The Prophet was persecuted in the extreme by Mecca, his followers starved, attacked, exiled. When he got the upper hand and came in triumphantly, he pardoned all his persecutors, which lead to the whole city converting en masse

>> No.12820969

>>12820893
>he thinks reading a book will turn him into a Muslim

I've been meaning to read the Q'uran & Hadith because I study world religions as a hobby, I'm on board. See you next Sunday OP

>> No.12820973

>>12820969
Cheers

>> No.12820974

>>12820960
(0))>:^[(])))) ~~~(|====8
^mohammed

>> No.12820978

>>12820969
>claim to "study world religions as a hobby"
>hasn't read the coaranne
hello OP

>> No.12820997

I just finished Chapter 2 Al-Baqara, interesting simiarity to the Bible old testament.

I do not understand this line

216. Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.

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>>12820978

This may come as a shock, but there are more than two religions in the world.

>> No.12821006

>>12820998
>claim to study world religions as a hobby
>smokes weed, watches cosmos and read a few articles about hindus and pantheism
why do people like you exist

>> No.12821010

>>12820997
After Mohammed and his followers took refuge in Medina, Mecca and others starts actively waging war on them specifically for religious reasons.

>> No.12821019

>>12821006

This may come as a shock, but you're roleplaying with an imaginary enemy and literally nothing you said applies to me. Try reading the Gitagovinda to distract yourself from your inability to charm women.

>> No.12821031

>>12821019
Look pajeet its pretty obvious you're full of shit when you claim you have a hobby of doing something and then haven't taken the most obvious steps. Maybe you can't speak english but you maybe have "an interest".

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>> No.12821055

>>12821031

I'm a white American and you take pleasure in being illiterate, I see. Like most of my countrymen.

>> No.12821065

>>12821031

The joke flew way over your head, dude. The Gitagovinda was chosen specifically to dunk on you. You would have known that if you knew, like. Fucking anything at all

>> No.12821070

>>12821048
The age to marry for women in Roman law (including in that time) was 7. Trying to paint the Prophet as a pedophile is purely historical ignorance, mostly he married WIDOWS

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>>12821055
>>12821065
>eastern religions? Omg so spiritual

>> No.12821100

>>12821088
Christianity is an eastern religion

>> No.12821115

>>12821070
That picture is painting him as himself, not as a pedophile.

That's an accurate pictorial description of something which Muhammad actually did. I know this is unfamiliar to you, but believe me: that's how people actually fuck - a man holds a woman while inserting his erect penis into her vagina.

Or do you think he married the girl only to never fuck her?

>> No.12821172

shia kuffar thread

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>>12821100
#dabbedon

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This thread is shit even by /lit/ standards. Internet atheists circa 2007 tier.

>> No.12821196

>>12821115
He didn't marry for lascivious reasons, even if sex was of course involved. The only wife who bore him any children was his first wife. Mostly he married to support widows of his followers (yes he went over the four wife limit, but he stopped marrying after that verse was revealed). Aisha is a rare exception, he married her because of a dream. It did turn out to be critical: she became the most prolific source for home life Hadiths and an extremely dedicated student of (and later leader) of Sunni Islam, her father ended up being the first caliph

>> No.12821206

>>12821181
maybe because western people are fed up with the terrorist tactics of Islam even as their governments kowtow and acquiesce for woke-points.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm
"A high-ranking member of Isis called for revenge after Friday's attacks at Christchurch mosques that killed 50 people and injured 50 more"
"But New Zealand may be safe if the non-Muslim population rallies around the Muslim community.

"How we respond as a nation will determine the level of threat."

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>>12821196
>after that verse was revealed

>> No.12821224

>>12820873
>Only thing I would urge is that you stay away from Wahhabi or modernist translations.
What about the Study Qur'an?

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>>12821181

I know. It's probably going to take at least until mid-April for the filthy crossboarding population to get bored and leave.

>> No.12821242

>>12821206
ISIS is opposed by and at war with literally every Muslim and Muslim state, they consider every Muslim but themselves to be kaffirs. Almost everyone fighting and dying in the war against ISIS is a Muslim

>> No.12821245

>>12821224
haven't read it but afaik it is Medievalist, not modernist, so probably sound

>> No.12821273

>>12821240
>>>/r/eddit
>>12821242
>Almost everyone fighting and dying in the war against ISIS is a Muslim
that's pretty based

>> No.12821317

>>12821242
every single “muslim” state is created and supported by western powers. Shiites arent muslim. Kurds are self avowed athiests. No muslims are fighting against ISIS