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Your thoughts on neofeudalism?

>> No.12842495

Everyone has already nabbed all the good ideas from his work. Corporatism, patchwork, etc. and done better things with them. His actual core NRx neofeudalism stuff is just dumb.

>> No.12842855

i love this guy. he's so insanely evil by every measure

>> No.12842858

>>12842458
Whats with his hair?

>> No.12842865

>>12842458
he looks kind of like my dad

>> No.12843034

>>12842458
No Jesus, no deal.

>> No.12843038

>>12842458
It's neocameralism idiot

>> No.12843041

>>12842495
Links? I am trying to build a future virtual society of dragons.

>> No.12843042

>>12842855
evil dosn't exist

>> No.12843053

>>12842855
All of his ideas are moderate and reasonable, they're just clothed in stereotypical edgelord rhetoric including the quintessential "I am such an edgelord lolololz" that always seems to sway idiots for some reason.

>> No.12843057

>>12843038
same shit different smell

>> No.12843061

>>12843057
What a charming non-contribution

>> No.12843087

>>12843061
wtf

>> No.12843114
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>>12842458
I really like Moldbug, I've been reading him and Land a lot lately. I also read his recent resignation article from Urbit. Unfortunately I don't think he'll be getting back into writing, but you never know.
If I have one objection to his work it's that I have difficulty seeing a patchwork scenario as sustainable. Governments seem to have a natural incilnation towards absorbing eachother, and I'm not sure they would be able to stop this from happening. It sort of makes sense though, with profit oriented governments not wanting to commit costly invasions usually. I feel like a Swiss model of federalism might be better, but as Moldbug would point out the Cantons aren't soverign.
Also, one might notice that all neoreactionaries are extremely handsome. This is because the beautiful sort of soul that draws one to such ideas literally transfigures the human flesh into a beacon of beauty, as if Gnon himself blesses them

>> No.12843134

Daily reminder that Moldbug and Land are 18th century Whigs mugged by reality (this isn't intended as an insult)

>> No.12843151

>>12842458
The apotheosis of my reading moldbug was probably this: https://dancefighterredux.wordpress.com/2018/07/29/against-malatora-and-towards-a-draconic-post-human-future/

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>>12843114
any more funny Moldbug pics?

>> No.12843217

>>12843042
Are you still here?

>> No.12843254

>>12842458
Guenon and the Traditionalists are much better but he isn't half bad and has some good writing

>> No.12843264

>>12843254
Completely different domains of concern.

>> No.12843286
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>>12842458
Based

>> No.12843288

>>12843286
Why is there a DDR arrow on one of them

>> No.12843291

>>12843264
Yes and no, it is different domains but a lot of the same subjects and themes still come up

>> No.12843516
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>>12843164
no just a normal one

>> No.12843567

>>12843151
what in hell is this
what in hell is Malatora and dragons and what e\even

>> No.12843584

>>12843288
It's so his enemy will know where to shoot.

>> No.12843647

>>12843567
Malatora was an idea for a gift economy/socialist cyborg dragon nation. So I am countering with an idea for a virtual dragon nation even further in the future based on NRx-ish principles and ideas.

>> No.12843668

>>12843647
Is this a fetish thing or something? Like a metapolitical fetish?

>> No.12843696

>>12843567
what is it
i'm scared to click

>> No.12843700

>>12843668
For many of the malatorans it's a fetish. I am not particularly interested in dragons as a fetish, though I am aroused by furry art, so there is some small amount of bleedover. I'm a schizoaffective therian and I just wanted to make a contribution to politics while also furthering my own ambitions.

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>>12843700
Huh. That's interesting I suppose, I think I understand. These things tend to be hobbies I guess, all encompassing lifestyles.
It's a strange intersection of different interests.
I don't know how I feel about it. I usually think it's best to avoid fetishes and degenerate stuff since they seem to compound on themselves but I guess this doesn't seem so bad.
I feel like I agree with your politics but find the therian aspect weird but also don't know what it's like to be schizoaffective so can't really knock you for it.
Can furries even be conservative/reactionary or is that a contradicition? I feel like these ideologies scorn hedonistic sexual deviance, but I'm not sure furries even count. I guess most furries are progressive so I've never had to think about this and I don't wholly want too

>> No.12843850
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>>12843114
>Quest added: The Restoration
unexpected feels

>> No.12843986

if feudalism came back moldbug certainly wouldn't be at the top, nor would any other techie cultist

>> No.12844041

>>12842855
the guy named himself mencius moldbug, he's just a wannabe.

>> No.12844070

>>12843130
Fuck you I fucking hate you butterfly

>> No.12844092

>>12843042
fuck off tripfag

>> No.12844362

Are cute transgirls allowed in a reactionary neo feudal future?

asking for a friend

>> No.12844369

>>12844362
there was a whole trannygate debate in the nrx community on this topic a while back, triggered by justine tunney. divided opinion

>> No.12844739

>>12843986
He's a professional programmer, certainly wouldn't be part of the nu-peasantry

>> No.12844924

>>12843288
That's Survive the Jive's symbol.

>> No.12844928

>>12843042
hey mummy

>> No.12845220

>>12842855
Not really, patchwork sounds like a much more liberated and free society (or market of societies) than the one we live in now.

>> No.12845258

>>12842458
I'll be the leader :)

>> No.12845273

>>12844369
you can't fight nature

>> No.12845275

It’s cool, since I wasn’t born into the lower class

>> No.12845548

>>12842458
Moldbug's observations about the modern day American system are the best part of his work.

His 'solutions' are kind of wack and not thought out very well, just stick to his open-letter. Moldbug is a good diagnostician, just not a good doctor.

>> No.12845576

>>12845273
I agree. Transsexualism is a part of nature. I look forward to when brain scans can properly distinguish real trans people from trenders.

>> No.12845582

>>12845576
Only gay beoble can be trans.
Anyone else is a trender.

>> No.12845593

>>12843814
I'm degenerate as fuck but the dragon thing is actually something of a foil against it as it concerns my ideals. When the fetish part of my brain tries to incorporate dragons into it the result is always lukewarm and the conscious part of my brain does a good job of keeping them separate (and wants them to be separate). There are furries who identify as conservative/reactionary, whatever that's worth. It is mostly a fetish for most people but it can also just be an aesthetic for some, and there's nothing inherently Degen about sex, just sex for hedonism's sake.

>> No.12845599

>>12845582
I don't even know what this means.

>> No.12846069

>>12843288
Tiwaz rune

>> No.12846292

>>12843986
Why do I see this dumb critique every time this topic is brought up? Not one NRx writer, from Moldbug to Land to Annissimov has ever, as far as I am aware, suggested that they would be a king.
It's like some brainlet thinks that 's the only reason you would want to end democracy. Neocameralism calls for CEOs, not kings, anyway

>> No.12846303

>>12842865
Same desu, got that 90s programmer look

>> No.12847400

>>12842458
>neo
Dropped, olde or bust

>> No.12847922

>>12847400
I feel like the technological progress we've made would necessarily mean emulating old reactionaries is impossible to do authentically

>> No.12848030

>>12843053
It's the same reason why people who like marvel movies still think that 4th wall breaks are the funniest shit

>> No.12848056

>>12845576
Downs Syndrome and rape are also natural.
Computers are not

>> No.12848339

Ive been getting a lot of thoughts on feudalsim, any good books on feudalism or "neo"feudalism which OP is talkin about?

>> No.12848470

>>12848056
Rape is good actually.

>> No.12848537

>>12848056
How are computers not natural? They come from the natural world and are in our reality. Are you claiming they are transcendental?

>> No.12848556

>>12845548
there are no good political doctors. Never once have some guys sat around and planned how a society would work and had it actually work that way.

>> No.12848839

>>12848556
Nobody can plan the details, but a handful of thinkers have directed the course of human history for the last few centuries at least. Many of the preexisting forces driving society can only be described, but most I think can and are influenced. Philosophers determine the wills of politicians and politicians determine the fate of everyone. Moldbug might exercise a great deal of influence over human history, or he might just be a noteworthy 00's blogger but if he's right about half of what he says I'd bet on the former.

>> No.12848867

>>12842855
because i'm a useless neet piece of shit i actually took the time to read (most of) his blog over the years and there's a really interesting gradual transformation he undergoes. it's fascinating from a psychological perspective. i wouldn't necessarily call him evil though, just at the abject end-point of disenchantment.

you can see a similar trend with mark fisher's blog but in a completely different way politically. i don't know what you'd call this kind of progression, it's like a desperate scramble to find an exit by any means necessary (fisher found his)

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>>12848867
I've always thought it was funny how he became more of an unironic royalist as time went on, rather than just cheekily referring to the Governor/CEO of a Patch as a 'monarch'

>> No.12849095

>>12842458
Neofeudalism? Really?
Just the fact that this shit needed to be teorized, proves that it won't work.
Feudalism itself was a phenomenom, not really a theory made by a guy who "lnew" better.

>> No.12849725

>>12848339
If you haven't red mouldbug you should. Then you can dive into the wealth of neo-absolutist blogs out there

>> No.12849904

>>12848537
Under your definition literally everything is natural. Anyways, why does it matter if something is natural? All that matters is if something is right.
The vast majority of trannies are men who are jealous that life as a woman is so much easier, so they decide they should get to be a woman too. These are weak, wrong men, who dress up as a woman and ignore the purpose they were put on earth for. Trannies cannot live anything except for a purely hedonistic lifestyle.

>> No.12849932

>>12849904
based

>> No.12849966

The new Unqualified Reservations site doesn't have any of the comment threads archived, and if you go back to the original blogspot one you just get a link to the new one anyway

Wtf... those comments are where the NRx really got started. How is this allowed?

>> No.12849978

>>12843114
You think Nick Land and Moldbug are "beacons of beauty"...

I have no idea what metric you judge this by. Maybe your are just attracted to their minds or something but they are physically normie tier for men. I mean, Molbug is a typical jewboy lol.

>> No.12850009

>>12842858
not to mention the face

>> No.12850018

>>12843114
>If I have one objection to his work it's that I have difficulty seeing a patchwork scenario as sustainable.
yes, it doesn't make much sense with modern armies and nukes, unless there's some sort of nuke coalition that makes it work, but even then it would probably get unstable when some patches outcompete other patches in the same coalition

>> No.12850021

>>12843134
maybe Moldbug pretends not to be, but Land has an explicit hardon for modernity, he just fears some of the current tendencies of liberalism (IQ Shredding) will make the world run out of biofuel (high IQ individuals) before the IA that replaces us can be kickstarted

>> No.12850029

>>12843986
despite whatever Milton wrote, better to be at the bottom of heaven than at the top of hell

>> No.12850032

>>12844362
there's writings about gender accelerationism, slimegirls, lesbian patches and shit like that
https://vastabrupt.com/2018/10/31/gender-acceleration/

>> No.12850051

>>12845548
>>12845576
>>12845599
it's just a fetish

>> No.12850118

>>12849904
>All that matters is if something is right
>proceeds to assert wild speculation about tranny psychology as an example of being “right”
Everything that exists or could plausibly exist within the natural laws of the universe is ‘natural’, the distinction between natural and unnatural is a false projection of man’s belief that technology raises him above the natural world when it’s merely an extension of it.

Also, you’re not ‘right’ by imposing your ideas own personal teleology onto mankind that selectively excludes tranny’s from fulfilling it. You’re making a huge inductive leap from “man has penis” to “man has penis for a purpose”.

>> No.12850570

>>12850051
It's not. Or at least there's brain sex too.

>> No.12850660

>>12850029
This