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Yeah that uh yeah that uh yeah, Yeah anon, it’s 1:53am

>> No.13007400

>>13007378
>says the french

Too funny.

>> No.13008083

>>13007378
But Russia is not full of swamps, Belarus is. And Germans "overwhelmed" Russia only once, in WWII. What a glib retard.

>> No.13008087

>>13008083
The Germans overwhelmed Russia by losing the war to them?

>> No.13008099

>>13008087
typical redditard comment.
Germany did not lose the war to Russia in WW1 and the reason why the soviets survived WW2 was because they were pumped up with allied supplies and spare turk men who they could use as bullet catcher.

>> No.13008196

>>13008099
Seething Wehraboo lmao

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>>13008196
Tankie.

>> No.13008238

>>13008099
The soviets "survived" WW2 by crushing the German invasion at Stalingrad and causing Hitler's suicide by taking Berlin?

>> No.13008293

>>13008238
This is a discussion that hovers around /pol/ level. Yes, the soviets beat the germans. Now, what are the implications? That Russia is not an economical third-world shithole ruled by an autocratic class of self-proclaimed aristocrats? That Russia doesn't face homicide rates that are only found in South America and Africa? That the average russian man dies before his 60s?

>> No.13008316

>>13008293
Jesus Christ man, first of all, I'm not a tankie or even any kind of soviet/russian chauvinist, but a) I didn't suggest any of those things, and b) most of those things are direct results of the fact that the USSR did all the heavy lifting in defeating the Third Reich and then immediately became the sole enemy and rival of the First World

>> No.13008341

>>13008316
There were reasons as to why they "suddenly" became the sole enemy and rival of the First World. E.g. refusing free elections in Poland or setting up/supporting communist goverments throughout Eastern Europe.

I'm not going to argue over that the USA routinely acted the same. There's no actual good or bad in history. Also the Soviet Union wasn't confronted as badly by all these problems as modern Russia so most of the fault goes to Russia.

>> No.13008382

>>13008341
>There were reasons as to why they "suddenly" became the sole enemy and rival of the First World. E.g. refusing free elections in Poland or setting up/supporting communist goverments throughout Eastern Europe.
Those were things agreed upon. You were thinking the Greek civil war if anything. Plus it was two cocks, one coop situation; antagonism was natural.

>> No.13008399

>>13008341
>There's no actual good or bad in history.
I definitely agree with you there, and hell, of course I prefer that the USA won out. My issue with the contemporary neoliberal PR project for globalist, borderless democratic laissez-faire capitalism is that it casts itself as the sleek, final evolutionary form of society, when of course it only got here through the missteps of its past rivals and veiled coercive brutality and is imminently doomed to lose to either an authoritarian capitalism in the Chinese project, or to whatever populist tendency emerges within its own citizens, kneecapping itself via automation and underemployment

>> No.13008514

>>13008293
>Russia is not an economical third-world shithole ruled by an autocratic class of self-proclaimed aristocrats
No? It's not a "third-word" country by any definition of the term and there is no "self-proclaimed aristocrats" here.
>homicide rates that are only found in South America and Africa
Also in Asia and Northern America.

>> No.13008524

>>13008341
>efusing free elections in Poland
Oh no, not the free elections! Any country without the free elections is a motral enemy of the Free World. Or not, if it's convinient for the Free World.

>> No.13008582

>>13008514
Yes, Russia isn't actually third-world by definition but there is sure little what makes Russia actually different from any third-world country.
>Also in Asia and Northern America.
Except maybe for some obscure mountain countries, I doubt. High homicide rates is not a charateristic of Asian countries.
In case of Northern America, we know what 13% are responsible for that.

>> No.13008671

>>13008582
>Russia isn't actually third-world by definition but there is sure little what makes Russia actually different from any third-world country
Jesus fuck.

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>>13008671
Yes, comerad. Russia serious business. Short process with people who insult mother russia.
Our economy totally not wrecked. Our military first-class. Putin leads us to eternal victory.

>> No.13008711

>>13008691
Complete airhead

>> No.13008721

>>13008711
Refute the argument or get lost. If you're actually stupid enough to fall for a troll, then it's you and not him who's a complete airhead.

>> No.13008729

>>13008721
Refute the argument *or* fall for the troll?

>> No.13009293

>>13008582
first world is NATO.
Second world is soviets and satellite states.
Third world is block of non aligned states.