/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13234456]

Which Latin American nation has the best literary canon?

[Anonymous No.13234458]

>>13234456
I'm not positive but I'm pretty sure Chile is the correct answer here

[Anonymous No.13234463]

>>13234456
Obviously Argentina. And i’m brazilian.

[Anonymous No.13234471]

>>13234463
What's the best after Argentina?

[Anonymous No.13234477]

>>13234471
Los Estados Unidos

[Anonymous No.13234514]

>>13234458
>>13234463
>>13234471
>the whitest ones
no surprises

[Anonymous No.13234527]

Argentina
>Borges
>Cortazar

Chile
>Neruda
>Mistral

México
>Bolaño
>Juan Rulfo

Paraguay
>Horacio Quiroga

Perú
>Mario Vargas Llosa

Nigga lmao.

[R Y S S C A N D V S !KNDY.F27NY No.13234571]

>>13234456

MÉXICO, LO QUE NO ES PARA EXTRAÑARSE, YA QUE MÉXICO ES LA MAYOR POTENCIA CULTURAL DE LA HISPANIDAD, SIENDO, POR SUPUESTO, AUN SUPERIOR A ESPAÑA MISMA EN ESTE RESPECTO.

DESDE LA FUNDACIÓN DE NUEVA ESPAÑA, HASTA EL PRESENTE, EL TERRITORIO HOY ABARCADO POR MÉXICO SIEMPRE FUE LA SEDE DE LA PREPONDERANCIA CULTURAL, CUANDO NO TAMBIÉN SOCIOPOLÍTICA, Y SOCIOECONÓMICA, EN AMÉRICA.

[Anonymous No.13234600]

>>13234527
do you really believe that Bolaño was mexican or did you put him there 'cause that's where he wrote most of his work

anyways op correct answer is Mexico

[Anonymous No.13234634]

>>13234600
It's not that easy. Not in Chile. For the people, the dude could be from Spain and nobody would give a shit.

[Anonymous No.13234676]

>>13234571
Isn’t taht bitch from argentina

[early stage socialist No.13234681]

>>13234571
wish she would shove a dense turd down my throat and make me feel ashamed of my toxic masculinity.

[Anonymous No.13234696]

>>13234681
They don’t have toxic masculinity in Argentina (they are all gay)

[Anonymous No.13234803]

>>13234634
Wrong. Chileans are proud of him.

[Anonymous No.13234892]

>>13234803
>And that's why they don't make us read Wild Detectives or Distant Star at school. The kids are reading Francisca Yo Te Amo lmao.

[Anonymous No.13234912]

>>13234456
my favorite incan classic

[Anonymous No.13234935]

>>13234912
Knots! The game.

[Anonymous No.13235039]

>>13234571
>>13234600
marico, imagínate creerte semejante barbaridad.
Los mejicanos no han producido nada de valor además de octavio paz y carlos fuentes.
Argentina le gana por mucho a mejico.

[Anonymous No.13235156]

>>13234456
Borges, Arlt, Sabato, Hernandez. It's not even fair. Fuck Cortázar, though.

[Anonymous No.13235328]

>>13234527
>Paraguay horacio quiroga

He was uruguayan. And he then lived most of his life in Argentina. So i'd treat him as a Uruguayan/Argentinian.

[R Y S S C A N D V S !KNDY.F27NY No.13235681]

>>13235039

HOLA, COMPAÑERO.

1. ES: «MÉXICO», NO: «MEJICO».

2. CIERTO ES QUE LA LITERATURA EN MÉXICO HA DECLINADO TANTO EN CANTIDAD, COMO EN CALIDAD, DESDE EL ÚLTIMO TERCIO DEL SIGLO VEINTE, PERO LO MISMO ES CIERTO ACERCA DE VIRTUALMENTE TODOS LOS DEMÁS PAÍSES EN EL MUNDO, PERO A PESAR DE ELLO, LA LITERATURA MEXICANA SUBSISTE PREPONDERANTE.

3. NO HAY RAZÓN ALGUNA PARA SER ENGREÍDOS, ESPECIALMENTE ENTRE HERMANOS HISPÁNICOS.

4. IRRESPECTIVAMENTE DE BANALES RIVALIDADES, SERÍA APTO QUE COMENDARAS ALGUNOS AUTORES ARGENTINOS, SEAN DE FICCIÓN, O DE NO FICCIÓN.

[Anonymous No.13235795]

>>13235039
aprende a escribir México y lee a Juan Rulfo

>>13235681
tú si sabes wey

[Anonymous No.13235931]

Mexifag here. México has had more quality writers than most mexicans would know, but the great ones were mostly censored, while giving the spotlight to Rulfo and Octavio Paz. José Revueltas ("Dios en la tierra"/God on Earth, and "El propósito ciego/The blind purpose) is one of the best writers I've read but he was often jailed/censored for being a communist. a In poetry, Abigael Bohórquez, Xavier Villaurrutia, Rosario Castellanos, Efraín Huerta, Alí Chumacero, José Emilio Pacheco.
That said: Borges, Nicanor Parra, Vallejo, Alfonsina Storni, Juan Carlos Onetti, Darío, Cortázar, Eduardo Galeano and many others give Latinoamérica a lot of great options. Imo I give the slight edge to México over Argentina, if I have to choose.

[Anonymous No.13235944]

>>13234514

>argentina
>white

[Anonymous No.13235956]

FIRST

Argentina

SECOND

Brazil

THIRD

Mexico.

Keep in mind that most Latin-Americans will simply ignore Brazil, for the mere reason that we speak a different language. Most of them are not familiar with our great authors.

[Anonymous No.13236700]

>>13235931
>Repressed commie antinationalist scum.

Based Mexicans.

[Anonymous No.13236857]

>>13234892
Ese es problema de la educación, imbécil de mierda. Y fíjate que tampoco hacen leer a Neruda, Donoso u otros, eso no significa que los chilenos no los tomemos en cuenta. Deja de intentar impresionar a los gringos hablando en inglés, ¿tan chico tienes el pene? Maricón. Y algunos profesores de literatura si hacen leer Detectives Salvajes

[Anonymous No.13236916]

>>13234514
>the whitest ones
>argentina
oh nonono

[Anonymous No.13236917]

>>13234456
argentina. buenos ares was a literary capital for a long time.

[Anonymous No.13237106]

>>13236857
Bolaño never had a relationship with Chile as a country. I never read him say anything positive about it, he always gave the impression of being a person who wanted to get as far away as possible from the country and its culture. It's understandable. How many years did he live in Mexico? His formative years are in Mexico, his accent was Mexican. That doesn't mean I hate him. I think one of the funniest and most inventive books I've ever read is "Nazi Literature in the Americas," where he attack at as many people as possible and is really fun to be able to read between the lines and find out who he means by each character. It tells you a bit of the secret history of Chile and even the continent. I think the Cohen brothers could do an anthology like The Ballad of Buster Scruggs with that book.

But let's go back to Bolaño's relationship with his country of origin or even that of the Chilean authors with their people.

Why do they make us read out-of-date books? I suppose because nobody is interested in people learning about their own culture. Or maybe someone, somewhere, doesn't want to. It's as if MINEDUC's literature department were kidnapped, frozen in a curriculum from 50 years ago. Is it because most of our writers are left-wing? It's a possibility.

If you have problems with English, use deepl. The de facto language in 4chan is English anon.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator

[Anonymous No.13237152]

>>13237106
Habla español, pendejo

[Anonymous No.13237857]

>>13235039
What about Rulfo, Revueltas,

[Anonymous No.13237873]

Obvio que nosotros. El resto de los escritores latinoamericanos son todos cagones domaditos por Borges.

[Anonymous No.13237994]

>>13237873
Fictions is pretty good bro.

[Anonymous No.13238015]

>>13234456
Brown people have ruined the Spanish language for me.

[Anonymous No.13238061]

>>13235681
qué irónico que pongas una foto de la comunidad hispánica y aún así insistas en que MEJICO EZ MEJOR

[Anonymous No.13238077]

>>13235681
>Sahara
>The middle east
>Comunidad Hispánica

Excuse me what.

[Anonymous No.13238085]

>>13237106
En varias entrevistas él habla con cariño y algo de nostalgia de sus orígenes en Chile, pero no es un weon chupándole el pico a su patria. Igual Bolaño disfruta de su posición de no ser de acá ni de allá, de estar entre Chile, México y España, y explotó esta posición en sus novelas y poemas
Llegar decir que Bolaño nunca tuvo relación alguna con Chile es pura ignorancia tuya, compadre. Vaya a darse una ducha fría.

[Anonymous No.13238091]

>>13234456
Mexico because they had the good Bolaño,
Roberto Gomez Bolaños

[Anonymous No.13238100]

>>13235681
mejico

[Anonymous No.13238113]

>>13235681
mejico

[Anonymous No.13238124]

>>13235681
tu gimmick es terrible y no necesitas usar un trip

[Anonymous No.13238132]

>"(I don't like) the priestly, clerical unanimity of the communists. I have always been left-wing and I wasn't going to be right-wing because I didn't like communist clerics, so I became a Trotskyist. But then, when I was among the Trotskyists, I didn't like the clerical unanimity of the Trotskyists either, and I ended up being an anarchist [...]. Already in Spain I found many anarchists and I started to stop being an anarchist. Unanimity really fucks me up."

Bolaño based and redpilled.

[Anonymous No.13238133]

I only read Marquez, Borges, and Rulfo... Redpill me anons

[Anonymous No.13238154]

>>13238085
>En varias entrevistas él habla con cariño y algo de nostalgia de sus orígenes en Chile

I'm sorry I'm wrong. Do you have those interviews so I can read them? I'm going to see the ones on youtube.

[Anonymous No.13238157]

Diría que por cantidad Argentina los deja atrás a todos. Y miren que es una mierda este país eh, pero en ese aspecto es innegable que una vez fuimos la fuente de la buena literatura latam

[Anonymous No.13238159]

Imagine having an ugly Spanish name, ugly to look at, ugly to pronounce. The whole language is ugly. It’s mostly spoken by dumb ugly shit-skin underbite half-Aztecs and half-Mayans and half-tikiwanapoopoobrains. If it were up to me, the Spanish language wouldn’t exist, and every person of New World descent would be dead.

[Anonymous No.13238186]

>>13238159
And what country are you from exactly?

[Anonymous No.13238190]

>>13238077
Western Sahara, a former spanish african colony now under moroccan occupation.

[Anonymous No.13238200]

>>13237106
De acá se nota tu rajadura de ano jjjajjajajja perdedor de mierda

[Anonymous No.13238204]

>>13238186
USA

[Anonymous No.13238205]

>>13238091
Best post.

[Anonymous No.13238207]

>>13238190
But is it valid to consider it Hispanic? The implications are... interesting.

[Anonymous No.13238210]

>>13238154
Busca las entrevistas en Youtube. siempre hay algo por ahí. Hay una muy buena que le hizo Lemebel en una radio chica, radio Tierra, de Santiago. Y otra que le hacen en la feria del libro de Santiago (No habla de Chile per se, pero they're worth a listen. Comenta sobre robarse libros. Good shit.)
Varias entrevistas estaban en un libro de Anagrama llamado "Entre paréntesis", pero como ahora a Bolaño lo publica Alfaguara, no sé si lo harán con el mismo título o con uno distinto y con más cosas.
Pero, repito, Bolaño si bien no era ni patriota ni nacionalista, sí recordaba a Chile con cariño, con estima.

[Anonymous No.13238216]

>>13238200
>And here are the reasons

>...
>...
>...

[Anonymous No.13238222]

>>13238210
I'll check them, I was actually reviewing precisely about a situation with Lemebel in some radio that I was unaware of. Thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.13238239]

>>13238124
>Spanglish

Yikes!

[Anonymous No.13238244]

>>13236916
Did they have slaves? I've always heard Argentinians are notoriously white since they eradicated their natives.

[Anonymous No.13238249]

Poesías: Vallejo (Perú), Rubén Darío (Nicaragua), Herrera y Reissig (Uruguay), Gregório de Matos (Brasil) Drummond de Andrade (Brasil), los hermanos de Campos (Brasil).
Cuento: Borges (Argentina), Quiroga (Uruguay/Argentina), Bolaño (Chile), Rulfo (México), Lispector (Brasil), Machado de Assis (Brasil).
Novela: Rulfo (México), Arguedas (Perú), Onetti (Uruguay), Marechal (Argentina), Arlt (Argentina), Laiseca (Argentina), Machado de Assis (Brasil), Guimarães Rosa (Brasil).
Ensayo: Montalvo (Ecuador, creo), Martí (Cuba), Paz (México), Rodó (Uruguay), Borges (Argentina, lejos lo mejor de su obra).

Una lista transnacional de lo que más me gusta.

[Anonymous No.13238283]

>>13238249
Agregaría a Puig, Di Benedetto (Argentina) y Levrero (Uruguay) a novelas.
Acepto sugerencias de autores de pagos que no conozca.

[Anonymous No.13238409]

>>13237106

>no elationship with Chile
his relationship with Chile was a goddamned soap opera

>his accent was mexican
wrong, it was Chilean mixed with Catalan/Spanish

>Deepl

[Anonymous No.13238445]

This question separates us as Latin Americans and this thread is cancer.

[Anonymous No.13238460]

>>13237106
Bolaño se consideraba a sí mismo Latinoamericano.

[Anonymous No.13238466]

>>13238445
>El gringo is the real enemee, chapos si señor

[Anonymous No.13238477]

In alphabetical order:
Argentina
Chile
Mexico
These three nations alone are the best. Separated they lack in certain departments but together they're the best Latin America has to offer.

[Anonymous No.13238481]

>>13238466
There is no enemies but ourselves.

[Anonymous No.13238509]

>mfw chichombianos are only famous for Marquez

w-we have other good writers.

[Anonymous No.13239125]

>>13238216
Jjajajjajjajjaja y sigue respondiendo ponte vaselina a la próxima

[Anonymous No.13239192]

*unzips pants*
i heard you lads mentioning vaseline?

[Anonymous No.13239201]

>>13234456
Shitpost

[Anonymous No.13239211]

>>13234456
Colombia

t. Romanian

[Anonymous No.13239216]

>>13238445
creo que todos aquí podemos estar de acuerdo en que la literatura latinoamericana en general es la mejor del continente.

[Anonymous No.13239223]

>>13234571
deja el peyote que te está pasando factura

[Anonymous No.13239281]

>>13235681
>brazil
>the only one speaking portuguese
>never invited to latino parties
Fuck

[Anonymous No.13239327]

Ecuador desu

[Anonymous No.13239429]

>>13239281
Brazil no es hispánico, y Rei está mencionando a la hispanidad, no a la latininidad.

[Anonymous No.13239694]

>>13234803
wrong. i was talking with my compañera chilena from the uni about lit, i named bolaño and she told me that he isnt talked about in chile, she hears more about him here than there
argie

[Anonymous No.13239715]

>>13239694
Not him but Mexican here. The exchange Chilean guy in my uni says he has heard of Bolaño but has never read him. He couldn't understand my enthusiasm and excitement. It seem Bolaño is more popular overseas than he is in his native country.

[Anonymous No.13239722]

>>13235956
true. i've read only one brazilian he was kind like garcia marquez, more goofy (its not the exact word but i dont know) i liked it
from mexico ive read carlos fuentes and really liked it
but my favourite is without contest onetti

[Anonymous No.13239726]

>>13236857
cringe kys

[Anonymous No.13239738]

>>13239694
Not him but Mexican here. Similar story. The exchange Chilean guy in my uni says he has heard of Bolaño but has never read him. He couldn't understand my enthusiasm and excitement over Bolaño. It seems Bolaño is more popular overseas than he is in his native country.

[Anonymous No.13239748]

>>13239715
Chilean here. People know more about Neruda, Mistral, Huidobro, Donoso, etc. I get it, though. I like Bolaño but he gets too much credit here. There are a ton of good novelists that are unknown. I'm not comparing, Bolaño is great in his own right, but there are a ton of latinamerican novelists that are great. I recommend Diamela Eltit (especially "Lumpérica").

[Anonymous No.13239796]

Bueno ya nos peleamos entre nosotros y todo. Que estudian anons?
>>13238509
Cual?

[Anonymous No.13239799]

>>13239722
Onetti was the goat

[Anonymous No.13240133]

>>13238249
>Montalvo
>Rodó
Patrician. Te faltó Alberdi o Sarmiento, igual.

[Anonymous No.13240143]

[Anonymous No.13240182]

México, Argentina, Cuba. En ese orden. A pesar de que Argentina tiene a Di Benedetto (el único que importa) o a poetas como Gelman, HUGO MUJICA y Fabian Casas, México tiene (Además de a Juan Rulfo, lógicamente) a Salvador Elizondo y Juan Vicente Melo, que solitos le rompen la madre a toda la otra literatura que se estaba produciendo en Latinoamérica en los sesenta. Los cubanos se quedan con Lezama Lima y Reinaldo Arenas, solo por eso merecen una mención. También habrá que contar a Brazil, pero únicamente puedo enlistar a Clarice Lispector. Recordemos que lo que conocemos como Boom latinoamericano es, a menudo, una formulación esquemática producida por la hegemonía cultural europea y gringa. Los autores que hayan sido exitosos dentro de dicho marco no representan ningún estándar de calidad, son simplemente niños huérfanos amamantados con leche venenosa. La necesidad occidental de encontrar exotismos y colonizar estéticas nos ha llevado a pensar que autores como Cortázar son algo más que señores pendejos con textos pedantes que le gustan a pseudointelectuales y adolescentes. Mientras tanto, dejemos que los gringos aplaudan como se aplauden los trucos de un perro a los pasajes de Bolaño adulando sus propias aptitudes sexuales y a la retórica ñoña y (accidentalmente) kitsch de Garcia Márquez. Disfrutemos de nuestros escritores propios, de los autores que encontraron una voz que eludió a la franquicia y estemos orgullosos de su singularidad. También, si alguien puede recomendar más autores brasileños, hágalo.

[Anonymous No.13240192]

>>13238204
> dumb ugly shit-skin underbite half-Aztecs and half-Mayans and half-tikiwanapoopoobrains
>I'm from USA

claro que sí pedazo de tarado

[Anonymous No.13240203]

>>13240182
¿De qué época te interesan los autores br? ¿Qué género buscás?

[Anonymous No.13240206]

>>13238509
we have even better writers than Marquez.

[Anonymous No.13240220]

>>13240182
>La necesidad occidental de encontrar exotismos y colonizar estéticas nos ha llevado a pensar que autores como Cortázar son algo más que señores pendejos con textos pedantes que le gustan a pseudointelectuales y adolescentes. Mientras tanto, dejemos que los gringos aplaudan como se aplauden los trucos de un perro a los pasajes de Bolaño adulando sus propias aptitudes sexuales y a la retórica ñoña y (accidentalmente) kitsch de Garcia Márquez. Disfrutemos de nuestros escritores propios, de los autores que encontraron una voz que eludió a la franquicia y estemos orgullosos de su singularidad.

Esto. Esos autores son puro marketing editorial, autores endiosados por gringos en busca de exotismo.

[Anonymous No.13240222]

>>13240182
Esto
No hay nada mas castratante que ese culto a Cortazar, es como un Borges de descuento.

[Anonymous No.13240227]

It's a shame that colombian Nietzsche is barely known.

[Anonymous No.13240229]

>>13240222
AHUEVO

[Anonymous No.13240250]

>>13240203
Cualquier autor brasileño me interesa, quiero familiarizarme más allá de Clarice, aunque me atraería más si fuese de la segunda mitad del siglo XX para adelante y haya escrito material no formulaico.

[Anonymous No.13240252]

>>13234456
Argentina, and it's not even close

[Anonymous No.13240271]

>>13240250
Los ensayos de Haroldo de Campos sobre la tradición literaria brasileña son interesantes. Hace una recuperación del barroco, que había sido dejado de lado por los críticos anteriores, quienes manejaban una perspectiva más bien nacionalista de la literatura, para introducir su "movimiento" literario, la poesía concretista: Haroldo y Augusto de Campos y Décio Pignatari. Esta poesía no es demasiado interesante si se lee aislada, pero hay bastante discusión teórica interesante. Todo esto en los 80s, más o menos.
Después, si no lo has leído y un poco anterior, "Grande Sertão: Veredas" (1956) de Guimarães Rosa es un clásico.
No sé si te gustarán dichas obras, pero, en mi opinión, vale la pena, al menos para expandir un poco.

[Anonymous No.13240879]

>>13240182
me gustaría escuchar más recomendaciones de autores mexicanos aparte de los ya evidentes. por el momento, leeré a Elizondo y a Melo, para ver si es cierto el mame.

[Anonymous No.13240906]

>>13234514
Why are /int/ so fucking insecure.

[Anonymous No.13240911]

>>13240879
Revisa a Francisco Tario, tiene una colección de cuentos que se llama La Noche. Pura sabrosura.

[Anonymous No.13240927]

Habría que armar un discord latinoamericano, o al menos de habla ibérica. Estoy trabajando en una pequeña editorial en París que está publicando antologías latinoamericanas en forma bilingüe. Estar en contacto con gente de distintas partes del continente puede ser bueno para llegar a conocer autores emergentes e interesados.

[Anonymous No.13240962]

>>13234456
Does Cuba count? Leonardo Paduro is deeply underrated.

[Anonymous No.13240971]

>>13240927
Me gusta la idea.

[Anonymous No.13240993]

>>13240927
A mi también

[Anonymous No.13241008]

>>13240182
Borges, Cortázar y Bolaño se cagan en Salvador Elizondo y Juan Vicente Melo, y esto lo digo como mexicano. Borges solito se caga sobre esos dos. Por más que detestes a Cortázar tiene mejores cuentos que Elizondo.

[Anonymous No.13241014]

>>13240971
>>13240993

Yo no onions ducho con la tecnología, pero esperemos, quizá alguien tenga un servidor y pueda habilitar un canal o algo así.

[Anonymous No.13241023]

>>13240222
de todos modos borges sólo es un imitador sub-estándar de macedonio

[Anonymous No.13241029]

>>13240222
Sus estéticas y temáticas no se parecen en lo más mínimo.
>>13241023
Si a esas vamos ningún escritor mexicano es original. Rulfo es un remedo de Faulkner. Fuentes es un remedo de Dos Passos.

[Anonymous No.13241038]

>>13241023
No es tan así la cosa. Te recomiendo el tomo "Macedonio" de la "Historia crítica de la literatura Argentina", dirigida por el magnífico Jitrik. Del volumen creo que se ocupaba Ferro (en este momento me da pereza levantarme hasta la biblioteca).
Si bien es cierto que hay ciertos gestos que Borges toma de Macedonio, la transición es bastante más compleja y no le quita mérito a Borges. Así como también decir lo que dijo el otro anon sobre Cortázar es hiperbólico.
En cambio, el comentario al que le responde habla de otra cosa, i.e. la importancia de la industria editorial para el Boom. Es algo que desarrollan muy bien los antologistas de McOndo (que tampoco me acuerdo exactamente los nombres).

[Anonymous No.13241044]

>>13241023
De ninguna forma. Borges creó su propio universo y su propia literatura.

[Anonymous No.13241048]

>>13240879
ines arredondo y esther seligson

[Anonymous No.13241118]

Me gusta el pene de mi novia.

[Anonymous No.13241121]

>>13241118
Forgot picture, lmao.

[Anonymous No.13241157]

>>13241014
apoyo esta idea

[Anonymous No.13241238]

Chile without a doubt

[Anonymous No.13241290]

>>13234527
Perú

> Vargas Llosa
The one who hates where he came from.

> Cesar Vallejo
The poet that invented new words.

> Alfredo Bryce Echenique
He wrote "A World for Julius" and is one the few great writers we have still breathing, besides the one of the nobel.

[Anonymous No.13241296]

>>13238244
https://archive.is/dUXF4

[Anonymous No.13241300]

>>13235681
>>13234571
Basado.

[Anonymous No.13241423]

>>13238509
Alvaro Mutis is amazing, much better then Marquez too.

[Anonymous No.13241498]

>>13238509
german espinosa la vdd

[Anonymous No.13242391]

>>13240927
>discord
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.13242640]

>>13242391
Do you prefer a letter written with a fountain pen? Retard.

[Anonymous No.13242667]

>>13242640
yes

[Anonymous No.13242671]

>>13238283
>www.DeepL.com/Translator
Ciro Alegría de Perú ("El mundo es ancho y ajeno", "los ríos profundos")

[Anonymous No.13242682]

>>13242671
Los ríos profundos es la de Arguedas o Ciro Alegría tiene una novela con el mismo título?
A Arguedas lo tengo leído. Voy a procurar algo de Alegría. Gracias.

[Anonymous No.13242705]

>>13239429
Brasil sí es hispánica porque Hispania es la Península Ibérica, Iberia o como lo llames, el estado de España representando por la Monarquía Hispánica coagulada por las corona de Castilla y Aragón y que llega, con sus diferencias, hasta hoy sólo es una parte más de la totalidad de España.

[Anonymous No.13242739]

>>13240227
Este man sí se tomó su pepita roja

[Anonymous No.13242766]

>>13241290
for me it´s Juan Parra Del Riego

[Anonymous No.13242829]

>>13239722
Brazil isn't really part of the Latin-American canon. What they call Latin-American is Hispanic-American really

[Anonymous No.13242854]

>>13239748
Diamela Eltit is a hack.

[Anonymous No.13242870]

>>13242854
"Lumpérica" is a great novel. The way she manages to introduce baroque theatre structures without losing the modern-style narration is pretty neat. I don't know anything about her as a person, nor do I care. But that book really shows verbal craftmanship.

[Anonymous No.13242875]

dont sleep on Uruguay, my friends
>Onetti
>Quiroga
>Hernandez
>Levrero
pretty good output for such a small country

[Anonymous No.13242895]

>>13242875
>Levrero

Based. Just unironically fucking based.

[Anonymous No.13242908]

>>13238283
>>13242875
>>13242895
4 Levrero readers un 4chan, what are the chances?

[Anonymous No.13243264]

>>13242875
qué hay de Benedetti?

[Anonymous No.13243292]

>>13243264
memedetti es bastante malo

[Anonymous No.13243296]

>>13243264
Su poesía está sobrevalorada. Su crítica literaria vale la pena. Poesía uruguaya hay bastante: Herrera y Reissig, María Eugenia Vaz Ferreira, Juan Cunha, Sara de Ibáñez, Ida Vitale, Idea Vilariño, Sabat Ercasty, Emilio Oribe. Todos esos son recomendables, en mi opinión.

[Anonymous No.13243549]

>>13242705
Ibérico, e hispánico no son lo mismo. iberia es la peninsula, Brasil es ibérico, y latino, pero no hispánico.

[Anonymous No.13243635]

>>13241238
Name one (1) Chilean writer better than Borges.

[Anonymous No.13243650]

Anyone not saying Argentina is objectively wrong and blinded by patriotism, and I say this as a Mexican.

[Anonymous No.13243669]

This guy fucked me up proper. One of the most gangster things I've ever read

[Anonymous No.13243672]

>>13243650
Comparing literatures based solely in nationality is retarded. That is the real blindness.

[Anonymous No.13243700]

>>13240182
Cringe. Elizondo is bullshit.
>Juan Vicente Melo
Literally who.

[Anonymous No.13243723]

>>13242682
Disculpe Ud... toda la razón: "LRP" es de Arguedas. Confundí los autores. "Los perros hambrientos", una recomendable de Ciro Alegría

[Anonymous No.13243736]

>>13243700
>no ha leído la obediencia nocturna
qué plebeyo

[Anonymous No.13243743]

>>13243736
>muh libros memes recomendados en la facultad de filosofía por marihuanos
mátate

[Anonymous No.13243782]

>>13242640
Yeah nigger have some class

[Anonymous No.13244415]

>>13235039
¿Qué tiene que ver Argentina con Bolaño?

[Anonymous No.13244556]

>>13242875
also Felisberto Hernández, one of Cortazar influences

[Anonymous No.13244577]

>>13244556
>Hernández
Also María Inés Silva Vila

[Anonymous No.13244652]

Acho que não contamos como "latinos".
Para saxões e amuricanos (e, consequentemente, o resto do mundo pensa do mesmo modo por motivos de dominação cultural e blá blá blá), somos apenas mais um país que fala castelhano, é cheio de pardas bonitas dançando seminuas na rua e o Brasil é um país que se resume a praias, pardos e pobreza.
Vão estudar Geografia e História direito, meus amigos. ||Aquela última parte só vale para o RJ, tho||

[R Y S S C A N D V S !KNDY.F27NY No.13244745]

>>13244652

MI (I)LUSO COMPAÑERO:

EL TÉRMINO: «LATINOAMERICANO» ES UN LINGUÓNIMO QUE SE REFIERE A LAS GENTES AMERICANAS CUYA LENGUA NATAL ES ROMÁNCE —ID EST: DERIVADA DE LA LENGUA LATÍN.

EL TÉRMINO: «IBEROAMERICANO» ES UN LINGUÓNIMO QUE SE REFIERE A LAS GENTES AMERICANAS CUYA LENGUA NATAL ES LA LENGUA ESPAÑOLA, O LA LENGUA PORTUGUESA, O DERIVADA DE ALGUNA DE ESTAS.

EL TÉRMINO: «HISPANOAMERICANO» ES UN LINGUÓNIMO QUE SE REFIERE A LAS GENTES AMERICANAS CUYA LENGUA NATAL ES LA LENGUA ESPAÑOLA, O DERIVADA DE ESTA.


BRASIL ES UNA NACIÓN LATINOAMERICANA, IBEROAMERICANA, Y LUSOAMERICANA, PERO HISPANOAMERICANA NO.

[Anonymous No.13245012]

>>13234527
Where's Serrano?

[Anonymous No.13245198]

>>13245012
I don't like it but is my personal preference because all his stuff about the Orfic Kabbalah, Hitler as a Visnu Avatara, the Black Sun Orden and all his NSDAP estoterism is not my cup of tea.

Is just like the concept of the hyperstition (create your own narratives for life) from the CCRU but 60 years before, and without drugs.

Take this tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YglWr3eVW_Q

[Anonymous No.13245272]

>Lemebel entrevista a Bolaño
Based.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g7ZJ9eN4jA

[Anonymous No.13245273]

>>13243635
I am from Chile, Borges is better by far.

[Anonymous No.13245296]

>>13235956
Brazil isn't that good. I would put it below Mexico.
People here praise Machado de Assis too much while ignoring Monteiro Lobato (his short stories are amazing) and Guimarães Rosa.

[Anonymous No.13245324]

>>13238249
>Cuento: Lispector (Brasil)
Fuck that dumb whore. Put Monteiro Lobato in her place.

[Anonymous No.13245337]

>>13245324
Não o conheço, mas vou procurar um livro dele. Vlw pela recomendaçao aí.

[Anonymous No.13245518]

>>13234571
>MÉXICO SIEMPRE FUE LA SEDE DE LA PREPONDERANCIA CULTURAL, CUANDO NO TAMBIÉN SOCIOPOLÍTICA, Y SOCIOECONÓMICA, EN AMÉRICA

¿Un namefag va a decirme que los EEUU no son los mejores en America? Dios mio, odio este sitio de web...

[Anonymous No.13245520]

mario bellatin

[Anonymous No.13245604]

tl;dr best books from Brazil? Philosophical/theological if possible

[Anonymous No.13245709]

>>13234912
José Donoso <---> José Nudoso

ayyylmao

[Anonymous No.13245715]

>>13240227
BASED AND TURBOBASED.

[Anonymous No.13246527]

>>13245518
t. malinchista agringado

[Anonymous No.13246581]

>>13234456
Argentina, and I'm a self hating argie living overseas.

[R Y S S C A N D V S !KNDY.F27NY No.13246711]

>>13246527

EXHORTO A QUE SE REDEFINA EL TÉRMINO «MALINCHISTA», DEJÁNDOSE DE USAR COMO DESPECTIVO, COMO SINÓNIMO DE «ANTINACIONAL»; DOÑA MARINA, DAMA MALINALLI, FUE UNA NOBLE, PRUDENTE, Y HEROICA, MUJER, DE IMPORTANCIA CRÍTICA PARA LA FUNDACIÓN DE LA NACIONALIDAD MEXICANA; ELLA ES LA GENERATRIZ DE LA MEXICANIDAD, COMO HERNANDO CORTÉS ES EL GENERADOR DE ESTA.

[Anonymous No.13246715]

>>13234477
Keked and fucking checked

[Anonymous No.13246789]

>>13245604
Invasão vertical dos Bárbaros is underrated

[Anonymous No.13246902]

>>13246711
qué término sugieres en cambio?

[R Y S S C A N D V S !KNDY.F27NY No.13247023]

>>13246902

LOS QUE TRABAJAN EN DETRIMENTO DE LA NACIÓN, Y/O SON ADVERSOS A ELLA, SON ANTINACIONALES, POR TANTO, EL APTRÓNIMO PARA ELLOS ES: «ANTINACIONAL».

YA QUE DOÑA MARINA, DAMA MALINALLI, FUE LO CONTRARIO A UNA ANTINACIONAL, SIENDO LA PRIMA GENERATRIZ DE UNA NACIÓN, LA REDEFINICIÓN DEL TÉRMINO: «MALINCHISTA» DEBE DE SER SINONÍMICA CON: «PRONACIONAL».

[Anonymous No.13247032]

Que opinan de Natalia Poniatowska? La piel del cielo es una gran novela.

[Anonymous No.13247045]

>>13247032
No la conozco. ¿De dónde es? ¿Es algo de Elena?

[Anonymous No.13247159]

>>13240962
Bump

[Anonymous No.13247166]

>>13246711
¿Que no Malinche era Cortés?

[Anonymous No.13247174]

>>13247023
>>13246711
bloq mayus y deja de usar avatar, maigo

[R Y S S C A N D V S !KNDY.F27NY No.13247204]

>>13247166

A HERNANDO CORTÉS, LOS CACIQUES COMENZARON A LLAMARLE «MALINCHE» POR METONIMIA, YA QUE HERNANDO CORTÉS LES HABLABA A TRAVÉS DE DOÑA MARINA, SU INTÉRPRETE.

[Anonymous No.13247224]

>>13247023
entiendo tu punto mi amigo del Bajío, mas creo yo que la conotación cultural de la palabra, independientemente de la percepción que se tenga sobre las acciones de doña Marina, está ya demasiado arraigada como para pretender una redefinición de la misma.

[R Y S S C A N D V S !KNDY.F27NY No.13247242]

>>13247224

ES UNA DEFINICIÓN ERRÓNEA, POR TANTO, ES IMPERATIVO CORREGIRLA, IRRESPECTIVAMENTE DEL «ARRAIGO» QUE TENGA; NO EL HECHO DE QUE LA MALEZA TENGA PROFUNDAS RAÍCES, NI EL HECHO DE QUE HAYA ESTADO EN EL SUELO POR LARGO TIEMPO, IMPLICAN QUE SEA LÍCITO, O JUSTO, DEJARLA COMO ESTÁ; ADEMÁS: QUÉ ES EL ERRÓNEO «ARRAIGO» DE UNA PALABRA EN COMPARACIÓN CON EL ARRAIGO DE UN ESTADO COMO LO FUE EL IMPERIO HISPÁNICO, QUE SIN EMBARGO DE PERSISTIR POR TRES SIGLOS, FUE DESINTEGRADO EN UNA DÉCADA? NADA.

[Anonymous No.13247277]

>>13247242
no concedes entonces que la Malinche cometió cierto grado de traición en contra de sus iguales indígenas? entiendo y concuerdo con que ayudó a formar la nación en la cual hoy residimos, pero me sigue pareciendo, si bien cuestionable, un término apropiado.

[R Y S S C A N D V S !KNDY.F27NY No.13247323]

>>13247277

1. EL TÉRMINO CORRECTO: ES «AMERINDIOS», NO «INDÍGENAS».

2. NO HABÍA COSA ALGUNA QUE TRAICIONAR —NO HACIA CON SU TRIBU DE ORIGEN, NI HACIA CON LOS QUE LA CEDIERON A HERNANDO CORTÉS—; CONTRARIAMENTE, ELLA FUE LA TRAICIONADA POR «LOS SUYOS»: VENDIDA COMO ESCLAVA POR SU PROPIA MADRE, Y MOVIDA COMO MERCANCÍA.

3. A QUÉ «IGUALES» TE REFIERES? ENTRE HUMANOS, NO HAY, NI PUEDE HABER, IGUALDAD, QUE ES ESPURIO CONCEPTO ILUMINÍSTICO, COGITADO EN EL SIGLO DIECIOCHO; LO QUE SÍ PUEDE HABER ENTRE HUMANOS ES LA EQUIDAD, LA CUAL ESTABA TOTALMENTE AUSENTE EN LA AMÉRICA PREHISPÁNICA.

LA AMÉRICA PREHISPÁNICA FUE UNA DISTOPÍA DE PERPETUO CONFLICTO ETNOTRIBAL, ANTROPOFAGIA, DEMONISMO, IGNORANCIA DE DIOS, Y ABOMINACIÓN GENERAL.

[Anonymous No.13247328]

1. Argentina: has the two best writers of all Latin America: Sarmiento and Borges, the rest is kinda shit

2. Mexico - the amount of good writers and poets is almost comparable to the United States

3. Cuba: Alejo Carpentier. you really just need him for third place.

4. Brazil: Machado de Assis, Bandeira

[Anonymous No.13247385]

>>13241296
This is genuinely tragic. My sympathies to White Argentinians still stuck out there.

[Anonymous No.13247394]

>>13247045
Que tonto onions. Quise decir Elena. Sucede que estaba escuchando el cover de Natalia Lafourcade a Aute mientras escribía el post.

[Anonymous No.13247431]

>>13234456
Onions español y he disfrutado mucho la argentina.
Me gusto Márquez pero no se como de buena es la colombiana en general.

[Anonymous No.13247549]

>>13247323
BA
SA
DO

[Anonymous No.13248856]

>>13247394
No me gusta. Leí "La noche de Tlatelolco" y otro más, pero me aburre todo el tema de novela de testimonio y géneros adjuntos.

[Anonymous No.13248885]

>>13234527
Paraguay

>Augusto Roa Bastos

[Anonymous No.13248891]

>>13248885
Buen escritor, se me pasó.

También se me pasó Cornejo Polar (Perú), Alcides Arguedas (Bolivia).

[Anonymous No.13248917]

>>13239694
That's because she's a brainlet. Every person in literary circles in Chile knows about Bolaño.

[Anonymous No.13249059]

>>13241290
>Alfredo Bryce Echenique

Where do I start with him?

[Anonymous No.13249077]

Pablo Palacio

[Anonymous No.13249338]

>>13248917
This is the problem we have in Chile, the complete disconnection between the people and their artistic legacy.

Imagine that a great Chilean author, internationally recognized, dies in national territory. The last case was Nicanor Parra. At his funeral they were street people, of course, but he is not praised as a National Hero, a recognition that has been lost in time.

Artists are the legacy of the people, but we have an internal, generational struggle over what the people, el pueblo, are. What does it consist of? I only talk like a santiaguino, but I can tell you this, being Santiago based on tertiary industrial development (services) the people are mercenaries.

[Anonymous No.13249369]

>>13238077
>>Sahara
>>The middle east
Based fucking retard

[Anonymous No.13249540]

>>13246789
Obrigado amigo

[Anonymous No.13249585]

Brazil has this absolute genius of poetry. I know little about LATAM literature, though.

[Anonymous No.13249793]

>>13249585
Name?

[Anonymous No.13249875]

>>13249793
Carlos Drummond de Andrade. I rec You his book Clear Enigma.

[Anonymous No.13249935]

>>13249585
Dos poetas modernistas (vanguardas históricas, segundo a crítica de língua espanhola) recomendo-o a César Vallejo e Vicente Huidobro. Dos poetas parnasianos (modernistas, segundo a crítica de língua espanhola) recomendo Rubén Darío e Julio Herrera y Reissig.

[Anonymous No.13250096]

>>13249935
Thanks for the recs my man.

[Anonymous No.13250633]

>>13249585
Todo Nicanor Parra y las Odas Elementales de Neruda.

[Anonymous No.13250775]

>>13234514

Newsflash: Chile is everything but white.

[Anonymous No.13250968]

>>13234527
>borges
the original incel

[Anonymous No.13251217]

>>13246711
creo que carlos fuentes decia algo parecido. para con el mayus pls

[Anonymous No.13251242]

>>13247323
>LA AMÉRICA PREHISPÁNICA FUE UNA DISTOPÍA DE PERPETUO CONFLICTO ETNOTRIBAL, ANTROPOFAGIA, DEMONISMO, IGNORANCIA DE DIOS, Y ABOMINACIÓN GENERAL.

based prehispanics

[Anonymous No.13251257]

ya que salio el tema, algunos libros sobre america prehispanica??

[Anonymous No.13251376]

>>13234514

[Anonymous No.13251460]

>>13251376
So... The Falklands, then Uruguay and the US? Shiiiiiiit.

[Anonymous No.13252030]

bump sinverguenza

[Anonymous No.13252042]

>>13251257
leon portilla

[Anonymous No.13253184]

>>13247224
Rei es del Bajío??

[Anonymous No.13253201]

>>13251257
Terra Nostra

[Anonymous No.13253212]

>>13253184

[Anonymous No.13253226]

>>13238204
Nice job anon, enjoy the scholarship money and nobody cares

[Anonymous No.13253232]

>>13247323
>1. EL TÉRMINO CORRECTO: ES «AMERINDIOS», NO «INDÍGENAS».
Incorrecto. Indígena es alguien que originario del país de que se trata. Así lo define la RAE. Indígenas de Suecia, de China, de México. En este caso se usa para los indígenas de América. Mientras que "amerindio" es un término impreciso y ofensivo ya que dicha gente no tiene absolutamente nada que ver con la India ni con los indios.

[Anonymous No.13254737]

>>13253232
primo americanos.

[Anonymous No.13255038]

>>13251460
There's like 3 people in the Falklands.

[Anonymous No.13255079]

>>13253212
I'm from the same region wtf

[Anonymous No.13256732]

>>13255079
para cuando la reunión de /lit/ México

[Anonymous No.13256749]

>>13253212
>tfw Rei is Guanajuatense

[Anonymous No.13256858]

>>13256749
El bajío no solo es Guanajuato...

[Anonymous No.13256879]

>>13256858
La parte que menciona Rei sí. "Cuna de héroes".

[Anonymous No.13256903]

>>13256879
Es evidente que se refiere a todo el bajío como "cuna de héroes y sepulcro de mártires".

[Anonymous No.13256905]

>>13240227
Absolutely based.

[Anonymous No.13257039]

>>13240227

No translations into English. Figures. University presses / New York publishing cartel strikes again.

[Anonymous No.13257052]

Why are argies so easy to trigger?

[Anonymous No.13257059]

>>13242875
>Levrero

Champagne hipster publishing house And Other Stories putting out his novel Empty Words in 2019.

Urugays, will it be worth my pounds sterling?

[Anonymous No.13257201]

>>13257059
I suppose that will be the translation of "El discurso vacío". Idk, I prefer his first novels "El lugar", "París", "Nick Carter...", Etc. The last two novels are somewhat autobiographical mixed with some fiction (autoficción). I'm not a big fan, but people love it.
His first novels are kafkian, full of intrigue. I found "El discurso vacío" somewhat boring.

[Anonymous No.13257349]

Felipe Ferras Gomez is kino

[Anonymous No.13257377]

>>13257201
What about Caza de conejos?

[Anonymous No.13257432]

>>13257201
Brilliant. Thanks, anon.

[Anonymous No.13257528]

Who here has read Horacio Quiroga? What do you think about his style, particularly in his short stories? I'm currently reading an anthology of them (ed. Cátedra) and they are ok so far, I'm liking them but since I'm more used to more "cerebral" writers I find Quiroga to be pretty dry. Of course, one could say that is exactly the point of his style, and perhaps the more I let his short stories simmer in my mind the more I will come to understand him, but so far I can't say that he is a model short story writer.

[Anonymous No.13257657]

>>13257528
He was one of the first writers in Spanish that perfected the classical short story (in the way Edgar Allan Poe did). He is not someone that people go for cerebrality, but for inspiration in the closed, round and organic short story. He made it all fit in a way very unusual for his time. He has also has other unusual things. For example, he was one of the first to write cinema critic and analysis in Spanish, he had a very troubled life that shows in his work, etc. Read "El espectro" for example. Using cinema as a source for literature was quite rare in a provincial and semi urban area like the río de la plata was at the time. More than experimenting (like Borges later did), he made short story popular and a respected form in this area of the world.

[Anonymous No.13257671]

>>13257377
I have not read it yet, but I have heard nice things about it. I would start with "La trilogía involuntaria" ("La ciudad" which is too kafkian for my taste, "El lugar" my personal favorite and "París").

[Anonymous No.13257727]

>>13257528
Also, Quiroga's level fluctuates a lot because writing short stories was the way that he earned a living (just like most of his generation, he lived of publishing stories in newspapers and magazines), so that may depreciate his full body of work from an anachronic read perspective.

[Anonymous No.13258261]

>>13251257
Bernal Diaz del Castillo y Diego de Ocaña

[Anonymous No.13258349]

>>13234571
LOL

[Anonymous No.13258388]

>>13243264
La Tregua is fantastic

[Anonymous No.13258440]

>>13258388
Eh, it was ok. The plotwist where the girl dies from a fucking cold didn't make any sense and it felt like an easy way out for Benedetti. The first half was the most interesting, before the protagonist met the girl, because he talked about his family and himself. During the second half all that gets kinda left behind.

[Anonymous No.13258467]

>>13234456
Damn, I'd look exactly like this guy if I was 30 years older

[Anonymous No.13258589]

>>13238249
Patrician taste.

[Anonymous No.13258926]

>>13253201
de fuentes??

[Anonymous No.13260285]

>>13257039
There is. Just google 'scholia to an implicit text' my friend.

[Anonymous No.13261268]

>>13258926
El mismo.

[Anonymous No.13263021]

>>13234456

Columbia.

[Anonymous No.13263048]

>>13263021
Retarded yank

[Anonymous No.13263352]

>>13263048

Hey! My mother says that I'm smart!

[Anonymous No.13264628]

>>13234681
Quién es la perra?

[Anonymous No.13264959]

>>13234477

[Anonymous No.13266326]

>>13234571

KHÉ

[Anonymous No.13266340]

>>13266326
Es muy claro.

[Anonymous No.13266357]

>>13266340
>SOCIOECONÓMICA
El saltamuros con complejo de superioridad.

[Anonymous No.13266797]

>>13234456
none. Go to the roots of them all. Get some Spaniard lit

[Anonymous No.13266802]

>>13234477
kek

[Anonymous No.13266807]

>>13266357
De América Latina solo Brazil es superior a México en ese aspecto.

[Anonymous No.13266812]

>>13266797
Spaniard lit is boring and dull.

[Anonymous No.13266870]

>>13266812
Such as...?

[Anonymous No.13266885]

>>13266870
Entire 18th and 19th centuries.

[Anonymous No.13266895]

>>13266357
Saltamuros... Nunca había escuchado esa Jajajaja!

[Anonymous No.13266909]

>>13266807
PBI per cápita nominal, cabeza. Estás equivocado.

[Anonymous No.13266923]

>>13266807

[Anonymous No.13266929]

>>13266807
>Los datos no importan!!!

[Anonymous No.13266934]

>>13266923
El PIB per cápita no es el único indicador de superioridad económica, ¿de verdad crees que San Cristóbal y Nieves es mejor que Brazil o México? lol

[Anonymous No.13266954]

>>13266934
Claro. Estar dominados por narcos, calificar mal en los índices de percepción de corrupción, tener crisis migratoria y alta desigualdad no es malo. México está mejor económicamente que Chile... Y no es que me caigan bien los chilenos, pero tampoco vamos a andar mintiendo.

[Anonymous No.13266957]

>>13266929
No se compara con la población, hay como 3 argentinos, 2 chilenos en total y 1 uruguayo en total. México de hecho está muy alto considerando la población que tiene.

[Anonymous No.13266962]

>>13266885
>the whole lit works of an European country from two different centuries are exactly the same
Ok, summerfag. Maybe you are new here, but you gotta be at least 18 to post on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.13266971]

>>13266957
>Quitando todo lo malo que tenemos, estamos bastante bien.
No digo que no hagan las cosas bien, dadas las condiciones, pero de ahí a decir que están mejor que los demás... No es la culpa de los otros países no tener hijos como conejos.

[Anonymous No.13266975]

>>13266962
Never said they were exactly the same, but they do share one thing comming: they're boring and dull. Even the Spaniards say so. Their only good writer from either of those eras is Benito Pérez Galdós.

[Anonymous No.13266992]

>>13266975
one thing in common*

[Anonymous No.13267170]

>>13238204
Lol, you're going to get KARA BOGA'd by the central americans into becoming Castizos in the next couple decades.

[Anonymous No.13267192]

>>13234527
>México
>Bolaño
you fucking retard he was chilean

[Anonymous No.13267204]

Para mi, todos ustedes son unos chamacos caguengues.

[Anonymous No.13267217]

>>13267204
Amén, Santa Belinda.

[Anonymous No.13267229]

>>13239738
mexican like to suck chilean dick just examples:
>Carlos Reinoso
>Gabriela Mistral
>Roberto Bolaño
>Mon laferte

[Anonymous No.13267239]

>>13238509

Provide examples immediately.

[Anonymous No.13267255]

>>13243635
messi it's the best player but he plays in the worst national team in history of argentina, borges it's the same case it's the best but there isn't any argentinian who could be up there with him.

[Anonymous No.13267257]

>>13267229
Literally who

Also chileans are retarded lmao, naming a country after foodstuff

[Anonymous No.13267271]

>>13267229
Bolaño lived here and wrote about Mexico. His most famous works are set in Mexico. Gabriela Mistral played a key role in Mexican public education. If being grateful to those who are friends of the country equals to "sucking dick" for you, then you are such a disturbed and pathetic individual. And the other ones are literal whos.

[Anonymous No.13267272]

>>13267257
I hope that you're not as retarded as your post would suggest. That isn't the origin of the name lmao

[Anonymous No.13267296]

>>13267257
>Carlos Reinoso
the futbol player in the history of the mexican league
>Gabriela Mistral
poet and teacher his legacy in the educational mexican system persist until today (i know becouse i'm studing her in my didactic curse at uni)
>Roberto Bolaño
it has been talk about enough in this thread
>Mon laferte
just turn the radio Lmao.

[Anonymous No.13267298]

>>13267272
still a retarded name "CHILE" lmao

[Anonymous No.13267302]

>>13267298
I agree with that.

[Anonymous No.13267320]

>>13267296
okay but what does that have to do with sucking dicks? are you retared? mexico opens their arms to these people and you say it's sucking dicks??

[Anonymous No.13267355]

>>13267271
I just wanted to shitpost like all the other mexican did, i mean they shitpost here and all the other boards, are all mexicans disturbed and pathetic? i know mexicans have a inferiority complex becouse they try to compare them selfs with EE.UU even in the mundane, you guys have a "moral victory" when they win the lame excuse called concacaf (i know for sure becouse i have seen your stupid television were everything is so fucking fake that is repulsive)
i think the worst damage to the latin american culture are the mexicans, all the world think we are savages that behead people and get drunk all the time, that we are lazy and unreliable if you wanna make me say thank you for that go ahead i won't.

[Anonymous No.13267379]

>>13267355
Whoa... Take it easy, dude. México was really good with all latinamericans in times of distress (please, consider all the argentinians, urugays and chileans that went there in the 70s and 80s). México is a great country, with great culture. Of course, they have their issues, but there's no reason for the hate.
Not mexican btw.

[Anonymous No.13267393]

>>13267355
Who hurt you, son?

[Anonymous No.13267408]

>>13267355
>discussing football on a literature forum
Cringe.
>i think the worst damage to the latin american culture are the mexicans
lmao imagine unironically thinking this. there's no such thing as "latin american" culture. and if anything Mexican culture is the most iconic one out of LatAm.

[Anonymous No.13267426]

>>13267355
I smell the dumb yank again

[Anonymous No.13267433]

>>13267379
like i said before i'm tired of mexican shitpost in everything with the "latino" tag, everyone down here has issues but not as deep as them, we struggle with the elements and how far of the rest of the world we are, how the dictatorships from the past shaped our society and how to make a better and healthy society meanwhile in mexico people are killed by machete and run to the border illegally, but again despite of this they are rude to us and try to use sudaca as an insult, they aren't m8s to us m8.

[Anonymous No.13267445]

>>13267433
who gives a shit you fucking soap-opera tier drama queen? lmao only drugfags get killed with machete and people rarely "run" to the border illegally anymore. it's you central american homos who get there. nobody gives a shit about muh hardships muh dictators. suck my dick.

[Anonymous No.13267455]

>>13267408
>discussing football on a literature forum
you point out the culture of a nation.
>Mexican culture is the most iconic one out of LatAm.
becouse you are next to the most propagandist nation in history, if peru was next to ee.uu they would have been "that icon" or you really believe you are the best culture that speak spanish? this just validates why i say mexicans are so full of themselves.

[Anonymous No.13267457]

>>13267433
I get where you are coming from, but 4chan shitposters don't matter in the real world. Most mexicans I've met are respectful and good people. Mexican universities have been very good to southamericans looking for academic opportunities, their publishing houses (such as Séneca or the all mighty Fondo de Cultura Económica) have been vital in the establishment of latinamerican literature and thought, etc.
Ignore the shitposters and don't fail to aknowledge that mexicans have been vital for the survival of the Spanish language and culture. I hate their accents, though.

[Anonymous No.13267477]

>>13267433
>>13267455
El hondurANO señores

[Anonymous No.13267484]

>>13267445
>suck my dick.
it's kind of ironic i was just called out for saying "sucking chilean dick" and i was trying to emulate mexican shitposting, thank you for the laughs.

[Anonymous No.13267487]

>>13267455
>if peru was next to ee.uu they would have been "that icon" or you really believe you are the best culture that speak spanish?
lmao just goes to show you're a retarded faggot. You can't write history of Mexico and the without the geographical location (or any other nation for that matter), it'd be a different country, are you retarded? jesus fucking christ lmao and peru is nowhere near as iconic as Mexico. I'm sorry your culture is dull, insipid and unimportant. Tough shit.

[Anonymous No.13267494]

>>13267457
>I hate their accents, though.
says the chilean lmao the joke tells itself

[Anonymous No.13267498]

>>13267494
I'm not chilean, wtf.

[Anonymous No.13267502]

>>13267433
you hate us 'cause you ain't us

[Anonymous No.13267503]

>>13267355
chicANO

[Anonymous No.13267511]

All the Latin American writers from different nations were friends and faggots ITT are fighting like little girls. Top fucking keks.

[Anonymous No.13267517]

>>13267511
This. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.13267520]

>>13267484
a taste of your own medicine. not ironic at all.

[Anonymous No.13267545]

gente, no dejen que el shitposteo los divida. latinoamerica unida mis hermanos.

[Anonymous No.13267674]

>>13267487
keep sniffing your own farts, you don't have any manners or education, mexico it's maybe "iconic" but not in a good way.

[Anonymous No.13267697]

>>13267674
>mexico it's maybe "iconic" but not in a good way.
GIGACOPE LMAO

[Anonymous No.13268030]

>>13234571
>memexico
>el pais de los pendejos
ayy lmao

[Anonymous No.13268041]

>>13268030
¿de dónde eres?

[Anonymous No.13268233]

>>13266957
>No se compara con la población
>Population size determines per cápita indicators

[Anonymous No.13268564]

>>13266357
???
Si intentas insultar a alguien, tu respuesta por lo menos tiene que hacer sentido.

[Anonymous No.13268622]

>>13242875
>>Hernandez
>Uruguayo

También nos roban los escritores, boludos?

[Anonymous No.13268648]

>>13268622
Felisberto Hernández, salame.

[Anonymous No.13269001]

Bolaños es igual a john cusack

[Anonymous No.13269270]

>>13235956
Machado de Asiss sucks ass