Reccommend me some good Burgerpunk books. Already read White Noise

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Anonymous Mon Jun 10 17:21:22 2019 No.13274166 [Reply] [Original]

Reccommend me some good Burgerpunk books.

Already read White Noise

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 17:26:07 2019 No.13274189 >burgerpunk holy shit did you come up with that thats gold

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 17:28:04 2019 No.13274194 File: 1.78 MB, 540x304, 1560189672189.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >burgerpunk

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 17:32:07 2019 No.13274216 >>13274166 what is burgerpunk? are the beats burgerpunk

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 17:51:40 2019 No.13274325 The Death and Life of Great American Cities

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 17:52:31 2019 No.13274331 >>13274166 Hunter S Thompson, maybe?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 17:53:06 2019 No.13274335 File: 315 KB, 1502x1199, breezewood.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 17:54:05 2019 No.13274340 >>13274216 >>13274331 Bret Easton Ellis

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 17:54:37 2019 No.13274342 >>13274166 Stephen King. It's almost avant-garde how many pop culture references and brand-names he inserts into his writing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 17:58:04 2019 No.13274353 >>13274166 Infinite Jest is honestly the crown jewel of the burgerpunk genre

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:01:51 2019 No.13274370

That photo is weirdly inspiring to me. Whenever I'm trying to take nice photos in big cities I get frustrated by the disjointed juxstaposition of everything. But this shot makes that very lack of cohesion the primary point of focus, in a way that is extremely visually compelling to me. A good reminder that art making doesn't have to be about seeking out some particular aesthetic vision, rather it can just starkly reveal whatever is already present in the immediate experience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:03:51 2019 No.13274380 >>13274353 came here to say this

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:10:07 2019 No.13274419

>>13274370
>>13274370
it's not still photography, but I feel a similar way with how Twin Peaks The Return framed the helicopter shot of Manhattan. Deliberately obscuring the landmark skyscrapers, shooting from such an angle that the most iconic city in the world looks ominous and unrecognizable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UXO8i_AaIw

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:10:36 2019 No.13274422 >>13274166 >>13274335 am I seriously the only one who finds these pictures cozy as fuck?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:11:47 2019 No.13274430 >>13274422 The 80s were good times. People still believed in the future of the US of A.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:11:56 2019 No.13274431 >>13274422 When you're driving through the country and come upon civilization it's actually a very nice feeling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:13:18 2019 No.13274438 >>13274430 >80s You can drive to Breezewood, Pennsylvania and see that clusterfuck any time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:17:10 2019 No.13274457 >>13274438 I used to pass that junction years ago to and from Pittsburgh, but I never would have thought that it was some paragon of chain store strip mall hell. A lot of big junctions and interchanges in America look like that

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:18:55 2019 No.13274468 >>13274166 Dallas TX metro center is peak real life burgerpunk

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:24:41 2019 No.13274491

>>13274468
Holy shit, this. I live here, there is almost no organic culture to speak of. I mean, there's the symphony and the opera, but lots of cities have those. The most organic "culture" we have is a district called Deep Ellum where all the queers and the drug addicts used to live, and it's in the process of being heavily gentrified, so so much for that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:25:54 2019 No.13274498 >>13274419 It's a really cool shot, yes. It definitely does most of the explanation itself, rather than relying on the "new york city" subtitle. That said, the fucking Chrysler building, one of the most recognizable buildings, is in the first shot

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:29:33 2019 No.13274518 >>13274216 >what is burgerpunk? the image in OP

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:30:48 2019 No.13274527 >>13274370 >>13274335 >>13274166 the way these pics were shot is from extremely far away with a very high focal length. this creates the effect of everything being ultra compressed and just spilling ontop of itself

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:32:36 2019 No.13274536 >>13274457 it all looks the same down the eastern coast through florida just the size and density varies

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:33:51 2019 No.13274541 >>13274166 Ready Player One is the textual equivalent of that image, if that's what you mean.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:34:23 2019 No.13274543 File: 17 KB, 480x360, Serena.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >burgerpunk Holy SHIT what a perfect word for this aesthetic and the literature that explores it. /lit/ does it again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:35:55 2019 No.13274549 >>13274543 Its a semi popular meme on /tv/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:43:08 2019 No.13274583 >>13274498 right, I mean it's shot so it's flattened and hidden against the other buildings in the background

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:44:25 2019 No.13274595 >>13274541 it's also pure, distilled Reddit, so don't read it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:53:39 2019 No.13274655 Op’s Picture is San Antonio Texas, at the intersection of 410 and i10. Its probably about a decade old. That circuit city and boarders have closed down, but there’s a wonderful half price books in that strip mall.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:54:40 2019 No.13274660 >>13274655 Not i10, 281. I’m sorry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 20:06:59 2019 No.13275061 NEOMCDONALDS ARRIVES FROM THE FUTURE

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 20:20:22 2019 No.13275146

>>13274166
>empty canvas
>could have built anything
>built this abomination
and don't say it's just that one city because there a place like that in every city if not more than one area. fucking cagers fucing boomers fucking chainstores fuck highways fuck this shit ugly fucking shitstain of a country. fuck. we could have built a replica europe all the best parts but no.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 20:21:23 2019 No.13275151 File: 371 KB, 1538x2326, America.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] America (1986) by Jean Baudrillard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 20:22:01 2019 No.13275159 >>13274438 It's called an interstate oasis. The gift shop will be themed around its state.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 20:27:20 2019 No.13275189 >>13274194 How about Cyburger?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 20:27:28 2019 No.13275190 File: 113 KB, 250x385, concrete-island.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Absolute burgerpunk kino

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 20:28:41 2019 No.13275197 >>13274166 James Ferraro's twitter posts

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 20:29:36 2019 No.13275202

>>13275146
What's kinda funny is that OP's picture is of loop 410. San Antonio has about 3 big circles. The smallest one is downtown, then theres 410 which encircles the majority of what people think is san antonio proper, and then loop 1604 is the big fucking circle of suburbia. Everything inside loop 410 isn't like this. It's full of family owned shops, art districts, and historical districts. Loop 410 is the starting point of burgerpunk blight and it just keeps going out. They keep lowering the taxes outside the city so people keep buying big homes out there because they want to believe they are middle class, so these sprawling strip malls keep getting built and more freeways go up because of it. The most brutal thing to witness over the past 20 years is the build up along i35 from san antonio to austin. It's about an hour drive between the cities and for the longest time there was a distinction of when the city ended and you were in the outlying counties. This line becomes more and more difficult to see as more and more of this blight moves north from san antonio and moves south from austin. At this point 70% of the drive is looking at shit like this. The beautiful views of the Texas country side are gone, replaced with parking lots and oil refineries and bestbuys and pizzahut tacobells. It's horrifying the amount of capital that has been infused into these places that once had absolutely nothing but a gas station in the middle of nowhere now become a town in and of themselves. San marcos is no longer the one town inbetween the cities, it's a tumor that connects the two into a mega city, but people refuse to acknowledge it, so they don't build high speed rail between them. They take years to expand the transportation infrastructure as to make it difficult to do anything but stop and get beaver nuggets at buckees before you go and roll coal on some austin hippies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 20:39:47 2019 No.13275252 >>13275202 my /n/igger i feel your feel Cagers need extermination. The only way to save our nation and return to having actual cities and some semblance of culture is to shoot cagers in the head and reclaim our birthright.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 20:43:10 2019 No.13275275 File: 1.23 MB, 938x1434, Screen Shot 2019-01-19 at 1.47.44 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13274655 VIVA 210 SHOUTS OUT

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 20:46:21 2019 No.13275292

>>13275252
I just learned what a cager is. Neat. I think private transportation is part of the issue, but I think the real problem is that the cores of these cities have a culture, its the privatization of life from suburbia and the american dream that really impacts these monstrosities. The inbetween of an apartment downtown or a ranch in the countryside is a shitty house on a half acre 15 miles outside of town. Then 30 miles outside of town. Then so far out of town that corporate interests see the need to make a new town without and central hub of economic purpose other than service to those who can afford it, leaving new generations created by the middle class to rot away in suburban nowhereland without an education or escape from it like their parents were originally running away from taxes and black people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 20:49:45 2019 No.13275304 >>13275252 >>13275292 t. poor

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 20:53:54 2019 No.13275334

>>13275275
I wish there was a real bookstore/coffee house here. All the cool independent places are either only book stores or only coffee shops.
>imagine books is for 18 year old punk kids
>half price books around town vary by location due to socioeconomic implications
>nine lives smells like old people and the lady at the front desk shoots daggers at anyone that comes in
>the twig is bougie pearl bullshit
>all the local coffee shops are tiny and close at like 7

I just want a comfy bookstore I can hangout in and read/write all day and get my coffee fix

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 20:54:36 2019 No.13275338

>>13275304
t. cletus who couldn't afford half my rent
>>13275292
cagers are the issue. in walkable cities you don't have giant interstates lined with stripmalls and lit like the vegas strip 24/7. can you imagine some abomination like op pic or a typical walmart in the middle of prague or edinburgh? caging, materialism, and cancerous sprawl all feed into each other. it's a downward spiral of shittification.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 20:56:34 2019 No.13275347 >>13275338 how unamerican of you cocksucker

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 20:57:12 2019 No.13275353 >>13275338 Whats the middle ground for people that don't want to live in the middle of fucking nowhere and not in some bug city?

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 20:57:36 2019 No.13275355

>>13274216
Oil wars, tv shows, everyone is obsessed with tv, social media and youtube, consumerism at its peak, fast foods, getting into a car to drive 10m, gas stations, roads cluster, everything is beige, boring squares, everything looks equal and gigantic, looks like a theme park between sad beige square buildings, everything is owned by someone, guns everywhere, mini vans, you need to pay to barely breath basically, everyone is obese, MESSED WITH MY TRUCK MESSED WITH MY TRUCK...
Jesus christ, burgerpunk is fucking real

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 21:00:12 2019 No.13275372

>>13275353
A small city.
>>13275338
I get it, but I don't think cars lead to that, I think those corporate interests fuel the cars. Unless cager is more an idea of that stereotype of person, but even then those people are controlled over time by corporate propaganda to believe suburbia is good.
>>13275347
pinche guey, add something to the discussion or go back to the facist thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 21:02:13 2019 No.13275380 >>13275334 go read at a taqueria gringo you dont know what you got until its gone t. grew up in san antonio and lives in new england now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 21:03:43 2019 No.13275389 >>13274438 >>13274430 Also the gas prices in that photo, the last time I remember they were that high was summer of 2013, then again that's when I first had a car.

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 21:08:08 2019 No.13275411

>>13275355
Holy fuck I want to write a burger punk book.
>Main character lives on outskirts of city
>never goes downtown, too expensive
>Works 2 part time jobs
>shitty apartment
>run down car
>in debt for college degree he didn't finish in liberal arts
>fails at tinder dates
>his entire social network shows him how much a failure he is
>tries to save a mom and pop shop he likes going to. (cards or comics or something, doesn't matter)
>fails miserably
>loiters with friends at gas stations and grocery store parking lots
>gets fired from job every time he tries to fix something wrong
>gets talked down to by wealthy customers about bootstraps
>inundated by news about war/politics/crime but can't do a thing about it
>every other chapter is at a fast food place or a bar
>tried to learn how to program but no one will hire him because he lacks experience
>long explanations of goods or services like american psycho does with clothing brands.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 21:09:40 2019 No.13275420 >>13275380 I'm actually writing something about a dude that gets trapped in an equivalent of mi tierra.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 21:12:04 2019 No.13275429 >>13275353 a town or a small city. most cities in europe are 4 stories at most and only like 50-100k. i can tell you the answer ain't suburban hellscapes connected by stripmalls and gas stations.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 21:12:32 2019 No.13275431 >>13275372 >>13275380 CHI

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 21:13:21 2019 No.13275435 >>13275411 I would read this, provided you didn't make it too depressing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 21:13:36 2019 No.13275436 >>13275411 >gets fired from job every time he tries to fix something wrong >gets talked down to by wealthy customers about bootstraps RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck this feel fuck fuck you fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 21:13:45 2019 No.13275438 How do we push burger punk to an extreme? Like a fantasy or science fiction element to it? What will our modern landscape of burger punk turn into if we let it continue?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 21:16:24 2019 No.13275451 >>13275411 Isnt this what that eeeeee book by meme asian is basically?

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 21:21:00 2019 No.13275468

I never can quite relate to you Americans.
When I look out of my window, it's trees, pastures and rye fields.
A deer or two pass by every now and then, couple spring born rabbits race through the dirt road that leads out from my front yard.
When I was younger, maybe 16 or so, I craved for the afloof metropolitan atmosphere of your skyscrapers and city sprawls, the coffee shops, inner-city theathers and street culture.
Now I don't wish to ever be part of it.
I've never even visited one of these places.
I've never even been to Northern America.
The tiny city, if it can even be called one, already feels choking enough when I have to visit it for errands.
What a peculiar place I have no interest to ever have further knowledge of.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 21:21:59 2019 No.13275474 >>13275438 Nick land wet dreams >>13275468 based

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 21:25:15 2019 No.13275482 >>13275468 You haven't internalized the American experience of Nothingness which is needed to really understand where you are from.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 21:31:59 2019 No.13275499 >>13274166 Why I already know what this is? You are great anon should mention this thread on your resume

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 21:34:49 2019 No.13275506

>>13275482
My tiny existence is hard enough to bare right now.
There is nothing glorious in and of itself being where I am.
But I know I'd wither away if I'd have to live in the world that has been described above.
I don't know how or why, but you managed to lock mankind's dasein in a such a prison cell it might never escape from.
Maybe people further in time will finally learn how to let things be, as they are, untouched, not 'uncorrupted' or 'pure', but to exist no further as they are in their place in of time.
Heaven knows we need no further disintegration of being.
God, I hope someone does.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 21:38:23 2019 No.13275516 >>13275506 I guess if it's something you can overcome you are the better for it, but it requires a taste for something better.

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 21:46:25 2019 No.13275556

>>13275468
>When I was younger, maybe 16 or so, I craved for the afloof metropolitan atmosphere of your skyscrapers and city sprawls, the coffee shops, inner-city theathers and street culture.
This is the rare dream of many americans, but most are trapped in the suburban sprawl, too wrapped up in corporate consumerism to go downtown and enjoy the little pleasures a confined physical space has to offer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 22:05:19 2019 No.13275647 >>13275197 He makes such shit music though

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 22:10:14 2019 No.13275675

>>13275468
This post was directed towards Americans while being written in the American language on an American website you accessed using American technology

If you're not interested in America (the cultural force that governs every aspect of your brain) you're either lying to yourself or an uncurious simpleton

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 22:11:57 2019 No.13275685 File: 33 KB, 240x180, 1558425734722.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13275675 >while being written in the American language on an American website Weak

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 22:20:38 2019 No.13275729

>>13275675
I did not mean my post in a demeaning way.
The reason I wish not to partake in your living environment is precisely because of the intrinsic cynicism and vitriol of the modern American.
I've consumed plenty of American media, which in turn has lead me to not despise it, but look at it as something extremely hostile and poisonous.
Something to calmly avoid.
You do not hate the snake or the spider, it just is.
And if it bites you, it's most likely your own fault.
I guess just now, I've been bit.
I'll ignore the 'American language' part, I was taught British English.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 22:39:54 2019 No.13275808 >>13275729 Foreign man, please explain burgerpunk to us from your POV.

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 22:42:15 2019 No.13275818

>>13274527
nah mate

>>13274335
ive been here, its off the Pennsylvania turnpike. used to stop here alot on the to grandmas when i was young. and i can absolutely confirm that it looks like this and even worse considering that the picture is only a small slice of that dump.
Anything within 30 minutes of the eastern seaboard interstates looks more or less like that

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 22:50:18 2019 No.13275852 Any story by Raymond Carver The Corrections Shoplifting from American Apparel

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 22:54:33 2019 No.13275871 File: 55 KB, 777x777, 1512179257554.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13274422 >>13274430 >>13274431

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 23:10:28 2019 No.13275927

>>13275808
How could I explain to you the banality of American existence better than an actual American?
Just look at this thread.
I already said, I can't relate to you.
To this suburbite existence.
You have had so many writers and directors exploring this topic, what could I add to that?
Is there anything to it?
More than amassing wealth and social power?
You have all these supposedly great minds whining about American imperialism, capitalist schizophrenia, alienation of the consumerist worker ant.
Yet look at them, they've all been commercialized.
I wonder if there's already a Noam Chomsky pop-vinyl.
The revolutionary ideas of the 60s, made in USA, are now just consumed and regurgitated to the masses in easily digestible, buy-and-throw-away form, by the same corporate overlords the so called social revolutionaries fought against.
There is nothing genuine about anything produced there.
Your inuence of neo-liberal cosmopolitanism spreads far and wide, amassing all people under it's control.
Yet what have we gained from this, truly?
Burgerpunk is the unbearable banality and nothingness of modernity integrated into our modern existence, the final form of productionist metaphysics.
There is no escape, no promised future, nothing to hope for, nothing to live for, nothing to die for.
Only a 24/7 McDonalds drive-in next to a gas station at a highway intersection.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be eating my Chicken McNuggets in a silent shame.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 23:12:54 2019 No.13275936 >>13274422 I do, too. Europeans need to realize that this isn't a residential area or even necessarily close to one. It's an all purpose pit stop for travelers driving across the great but sparsely populated US of A

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 23:16:20 2019 No.13275950 >>13275927 I like the way you write. An impartial third person perspective is always nice to have. If you were a royale with cheese, I'd eat you up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 23:16:50 2019 No.13275954 File: 918 KB, 825x1260, 45A9993F-D4E8-4F67-B01E-28321B3D3560.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Haven’t read it but the title is pretty burgerpunk.

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 23:17:25 2019 No.13275961

Daffy Duck In Hollywood
John Ashbery - 1927-2017
Something strange is creeping across me.
La Celestina has only to warble the first few bars
Of "I Thought about You" or something mellow from
Amadigi di Gaula for everything--a mint-condition can
Of Rumford's Baking Powder, a celluloid earring, Speedy
Gonzales, the latest from Helen Topping Miller's fertile
Escritoire, a sheaf of suggestive pix on greige, deckle-edged
Stock--to come clattering through the rainbow trellis
Where Pistachio Avenue rams the 2300 block of Highland
Fling Terrace. He promised he'd get me out of this one,
That mean old cartoonist, but just look what he's
Done to me now! I scarce dare approach me mug's attenuated
Reflection in yon hubcap, so jaundiced, so déconfit
Are its lineaments--fun, no doubt, for some quack phrenologist's
Fern-clogged waiting room, but hardly what you'd call
Companionable. But everything is getting choked to the point of
Silence. Just now a magnetic storm hung in the swatch of sky
Over the Fudds' garage, reducing it--drastically--
To the aura of a plumbago-blue log cabin on
A Gadsden Purchase commemorative cover. Suddenly all is
Loathing. I don't want to go back inside any more. You meet
Enough vague people on this emerald traffic-island--no,
Not people, comings and goings, more: mutterings, splatterings,
The bizarrely but effectively equipped infantries of
happy-go-nutty
Vegetal jacqueries, plumed, pointed at the little
White cardboard castle over the mill run. "Up
The lazy river, how happy we could be?"
How will it end? That geranium glow
Over Anaheim's had the riot act read to it by the
Etna-size firecracker that exploded last minute into
A carte du Tendre in whose lower right-hand corner
(Hard by the jock-itch sand-trap that skirts
The asparagus patch of algolagnic nuits blanches) Amadis
Is cozening the Princesse de Cleves into a midnight
micturition spree

The change as we would greet the change itself.
All life is but a figment; conversely, the tiny
Tome that slips from your hand is not perhaps the
Missing link in this invisible picnic whose leverage
Shrouds our sense of it. Therefore bivouac we
On this great, blond highway, unimpeded by
Veiled scruples, worn conundrums. Morning is
Impermanent. Grab sex things, swing up
Over the horizon like a boy
On a fishing expedition. No one really knows
Or cares whether this is the whole of which parts
Were vouchsafed--once--but to be ambling on's
The tradition more than the safekeeping of it. This mulch for
Play keeps them interested and busy while the big,
Vaguer stuff can decide what it wants--what maps, what
Model cities, how much waste space. Life, our
Life anyway, is between. We don't mind
Or notice any more that the sky is green, a parrot
One, but have our earnest where it chances on us,
Disingenuous, intrigued, inviting more,
Always invoking the echo, a summer's day.

(1/2)

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 23:18:27 2019 No.13275966

(2/2)

On the Tamigi with the Wallets (Walt, Blossom, and little
Sleezix) on a lamé barge "borrowed" from Ollie
Of the Movies' dread mistress of the robes. Wait!
I have an announcement! This wide, tepidly meandering,
Civilized Lethe (one can barely make out the maypoles
And châlets de nécessitê on its sedgy shore)
leads to Tophet, that
Landfill-haunted, not-so-residential resort from which
Some travellers return! This whole moment is the groin
Of a borborygmic giant who even now
Is rolling over on us in his sleep. Farewell bocages,
Tanneries, water-meadows. The allegory comes unsnarled
Too soon; a shower of pecky acajou harpoons is
About all there is to be noted between tornadoes. I have
Only my intermittent life in your thoughts to live
Which is like thinking in another language. Everything
Depends on whether somebody reminds you of me.
That this is a fabulation, and that those "other times"
Are in fact the silences of the soul, picked out in
Diamonds on stygian velvet, matters less than it should.
Prodigies of timing may be arranged to convince them
We live in one dimension, they in ours. While I
Abroad through all the coasts of dark destruction seek
Deliverance for us all, think in that language: its
Grammar, though tortured, offers pavillions
At each new parting of the ways. Pastel
Ambulances scoop up the quick and hie them to hospitals.
"It's all bits and pieces, spangles, patches, really; nothing
Stands alone. What happened to creative evolution?"
Sighed Aglavaine. Then to her Sélysette: "If his
Achievement is only to end up less boring than the others,
What's keeping us here? Why not leave at once?
I have to stay here while they sit in there,
Laugh, drink, have fine time. In my day
One lay under the tough green leaves,
Pretending not to notice how they bled into
The sky's aqua, the wafted-away no-color of regions supposed
Not to concern us. And so we too
Came where the others came: nights of physical endurance,
Or if, by day, our behavior was anarchically
Correct, at least by New Brutalism standards, all then
Grew taciturn by previous agreement. We were spirited
Away en bateau, under cover of fudge dark.
It's not the incomplete importunes, but the spookiness
Of the finished product. True, to ask less were folly, yet
If he is the result of himself, how much the better
For him we ought to be! And how little, finally,
We take this into account! Is the puckered garance satin
Of a case that once held a brace of dueling pistols our
Only acknowledging of that color? I like not this,
Methinks, yet this disappointing sequel to ourselves
Has been applauded in London and St. Petersburg. Somewhere
Ravens pray for us." The storm finished brewing. And thus
She questioned all who came in at the great gate, but none

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 23:19:27 2019 No.13275972

(3/3)
She found who ever heard of Amadis,
Nor of stern Aureng-Zebe, his first love. Some
They were to whom this mattered not a jot: since all
By definition is completeness (so
In utter darkness they reasoned), why not
Accept it as it pleases to reveal itself? As when
Low skyscrapers from lower-hanging clouds reveal
A turret there, an art-deco escarpment here, and last perhaps
The pattern that may carry the sense, but
Stays hidden in the mysteries of pagination.
Not what we see but how we see it matters; all's
Alike, the same, and we greet him who announces

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 23:24:12 2019 No.13275986 Infinite Jest is a sort of speculative burgerpunk

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 23:28:53 2019 No.13276001 >>13275972 Shit references to wannabe-obscure texts

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 23:34:09 2019 No.13276019 >>13276001 >wannabe-obscure Sounds like a kid bad at hide and seek who really just wants their father or anyone to be playing with them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 23:50:15 2019 No.13276085 Snow Crash and Neal Stephenson generally. Distraction by Bruce Sterling

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 00:00:57 2019 No.13276125
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Steve's gaze didn't move from the bubbling yellow vat. Hanging metal screens chirped with orders yet to be fulfilled. His coworkers, all teenagers, ran behind him pushing buttons and pouring large plastic bags full of frozen potato products and homogenized meats into rusted chrome machines blistering heat upon the "food" until it told the teenagers it was done. One of them wiped their face after suffering yet another grease burn on their pimple ridden face. Steve adjusted his hat. It was his fourth hat. He continued to lose them any time they became too ratty or smelly. He never figured out how to wash them properly, he thought they were probably designed that way, and tossed them in his apartment's dumpster. He knew he had to pay for another one, amounting to roughly two hours of work at his wonderful minimum wage plus a quarter, but he couldn't stand a stained, sticky, smelly hat. Fuck these hats. He pulled out the rack from the deep fryer. He had waited too long. The machine had been beeping for almost 90 seconds too long. The batch was ruined. The fries were too brown. He didn't care and dumped them in the metal tub in which a blinding but dull light kept the fries at the minimum temperature allowed to keep the fries fresh according to the handbook.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 00:26:59 2019 No.13276220 I wrote a short story about this, kind of >>13275202 Urban planners say there is gonna end up being just one giant city from Boston to DC, where the start and finish is going to be impossible to define

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 00:32:53 2019 No.13276243
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>>13275818
>nah mate
im going to suture your eyelids open to your cheek and forehead with a rusty aids needle before slowly impaling it into your retinas before spooning your eyeballs out cunt. google telephoto compression. it is an effect created by being very far away from the subject

>>>/p/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 00:50:07 2019 No.13276310 File: 451 KB, 612x792, burgerpunk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 01:26:32 2019 No.13276447 File: 7 KB, 250x250, 1530891107746.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13274166 >burgerpunk made me chuckle

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 01:31:15 2019 No.13276467 >>13274335 wasteland death’s death

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 01:46:22 2019 No.13276513 >>13274166 The younger generations are moving into apartments in the city now, that’s what’s causing the “gentrification” that people bitch about so much. It will probably take a century or more but I think suburbs will eventually decline.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 01:49:59 2019 No.13276528 File: 293 KB, 1280x868, 1280px-Cole_Thomas_The_Consummation_The_Course_of_the_Empire_1836.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If I had the ability I'd paint a parody of "The Consummation" by Thomas Cole in "burgerpunk" styling.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 05:49:32 2019 No.13277164 Bump

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 05:50:07 2019 No.13277166 >>13277164 What do you think of my super cool book cover?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 05:51:05 2019 No.13277167 File: 653 KB, 1200x800, MapofEmergingUSMegaregions.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13276220 this is true for many parts of the usa.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 05:55:48 2019 No.13277174 File: 84 KB, 937x1170, sjad1TX.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13274189 its from /tv/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 05:56:25 2019 No.13277175 >>13274166 A Confederacy of Dunces

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 06:17:37 2019 No.13277231 >>13275429 This. Smaller European cities (think Moers in Germany, Modena in Italy, or Salisbury in England) balance distance, privacy, and livability really well without descending into suburban hell.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 06:24:17 2019 No.13277242 >>13275429 europe's economy is also dogshit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 06:32:25 2019 No.13277250 File: 164 KB, 1334x1000, Supermarket night.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13274422 I feel there is a type comfort hearing the flourescent hum of consumer capitalism in empty supermarkets.

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 08:11:31 2019 No.13277512

>>13277250
I know this feeling well. Have always tried to articulate it. I walked by an apartment complex downtown one night that had a sandwich store on the ground floor. You could hear the hum and see that pale blue glow of the fridges and freezers that they keep sodas and ice cream in. I remember wondering what it would be like to live in one of those apartments, coming home late one night to that familiar blue glow shining dimly through the window.

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 08:19:48 2019 No.13277537

>>13277250
>>13277512
I worked security in a mall once around Christmas. Everything about it kind of sucked, but we were understaffed, so when we closed up at night, you could go for literally hours without seeing anyone while you locked up. They'd play music for a couple hours after the stores closed. The stores would all have their lights off, some would keep music playing all night and you would hear it fade in and out as you walked by on patrol. It was like being somewhere in between - knowing you were somewhere that people don't often get to be, like when you saw through the door into the teacher's lounge when you were a kid, or when you visit an airport and can look down at a construction site that is otherwise hidden from view. I can't quite describe it - something about seeing the things that are done to keep the world functioning is real special.

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 08:37:10 2019 No.13277575
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>>13277250
personally, i hate the wide selection of inexpensive and nutritious food that is a hallmark of free markets. i am unable to attack the undisputed mechanical superiority of the market system so i am forced to attack it on aesthetic grounds instead of moral or economic ones. As a 20 year old university student who has all of his needs provided for by the his parents and government, i have zero appreciation for the desperate need that the food supply, represented by supermarkets, satisfy for working class people, who rely on the efficiency of that system to keep themselves from starving. i am completely divorced from the everyday needs and desires of average people, to the point that i cant even understand them, and disguise it with a veneer of pretentious contempt. i have zero respect for the miracle of economics, industry, and science that allows billions of poor humans to keep themselves from dying horrific desperate deaths.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 08:44:37 2019 No.13277594 >>13277575 >there can't be a free market under socialism

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 08:47:13 2019 No.13277600 Isn't this just Clerks? Like, skate kids loitering at the mall tier?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 08:47:48 2019 No.13277603 >>13274353 First thing I thought of too. >>13274491 Try the Sun Belt if you want some real vacuous horseshit. Vegas never ceases to amaze me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 09:09:54 2019 No.13277686 File: 154 KB, 1024x768, Pool-drain-1024x768.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13277600 taking teenage angst and submerging it in the last 2 inches of dirty water at the bottom of the empty pool of socialism. is what this is.

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 09:45:37 2019 No.13277821

>>13277537
It’s sort of like hearing an orchestra warm up or hearing musicians cough and set their instruments down at the very last second of a recording. Stepping towards the breakdown fringe of an experience reframes it, and the resulting change of perspective is refreshing and exciting.
I know what you mean about seeing the gears work, though. I used to work for UPS, and seeing the night crews loading boxes on planes that’d be arriving on the opposite side of the world the next day was weirdly compelling.
That’s ultimately what I like about cyberpunk and burgerpunk. Glimpsing something sublime at an office park. It can happen!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 09:50:36 2019 No.13277840 File: 3.06 MB, 3000x3312, 1558380563166_0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Great thread! >unrelated but I'm rolling for my next novella read, don't mind me >last two dig = row_num, col_num

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 10:11:58 2019 No.13277949

>>13277167
Having lived in Southern California (in LA, Orange County, and San Diego), that image is a bit off. There is a clear demarcation between San Diego and anything north of Oceanside by virtue of Camp Pendleton (Marine training area) being entirely undeveloped open space. Once you hit San Clemente in south Orange County, you hit the real megaregion - you're in various/assorted metro areas for the next 140 miles or so until you're out of Ventura. There are some comfy individual places/towns in that megaregion, but they are few and far between and it can be soul killing if you never leave it.

>>13277250
>>13277512
>>13277537
>>13277821
All true enough, especially if you came of age in the USA anytime between the mid-'80s and early '00s, back when the explosion of consumer goods and technology still brought new/innovative things into your life, and hadn't entirely beaten down the various regional cultures of the country into one vast and banal society of mindless consumerism. To a large extent that consumerism had its gestation and birth in cities, so it's somewhat ironic to see urbanites continue to look down in scorn at suburban and rural areas. We've abandoned any real high culture (something cities used to provide that suburban/rural areas generally did not). Now your typical city is just as culturally banal as a suburban housing development, except you have older/larger architecture (nice) and homelessness/crime/drugs (not nice). On a per-capita basis, these days in the USA you're probably more likely to meet someone who is interesting/well-read/etc outside of major cities and metro regions. An inversion from 30+ years ago. But I digress.

>>13277575
20 years ago I thought like you and have some sympathy for your views. That said, while the free market is a tremendous boon for physical and material well-being, we shouldn't ignore the moral, aesthetic, and spiritual deficits we've seen created under it. We shouldn't abandon the market, but there should be more to life and culture and society than the market.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 10:32:00 2019 No.13278011 >>13277840 count me in

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 10:42:28 2019 No.13278048 >>13277840 oh shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 11:59:59 2019 No.13278384 >>13275151 >>13275190 They sound great. Thanks for the recommendation

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 12:01:56 2019 No.13278396 >>13275411 Publish this and im your first customer

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 15:53:54 2019 No.13279583 >>13277594 there can't be any market under socialism

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 16:04:54 2019 No.13279636 >>13274430 More like early 00's, that interchange wasnt constructed until around 2007 T. Grew up in tacotown, actually had a job in that very part of town

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 16:06:40 2019 No.13279642 >>13277949 having driven through socal it definitely seems like LA and san diego are as connected as LA and santa barbara

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 16:08:56 2019 No.13279653 >>13274353 This man speaks truth Who did drug scenes better, Gibbon or Wallace? Who did new media better, Gibbon or Wallace?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 16:28:06 2019 No.13279757 >>13274422 >>13277250 >>13277512 >>13277537 liminal spaces is a thing on /x/ right now, this is the thread that started it: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/22767698/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 16:31:17 2019 No.13279774 >>13274166 william gibson's bigend trilogy douglas coupland's generation x

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 16:32:17 2019 No.13279777 >>13274543 I know this is one I'm going to be using a lot

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 16:34:54 2019 No.13279790 >>13275190 no, this is crumpetpunk

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 16:42:18 2019 No.13279820 >>13274166 pkd - a scanner darkly, valis, radio free albemuth

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 16:47:39 2019 No.13279843 >>13274166 The McDonalds' menu

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 16:48:56 2019 No.13279849 don't use burgerpunk, it will subconciously make you want a burger and only contribute to the burger reign

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:13:42 2019 No.13279962 >>13277840 ooh

>>	Numen !!GgBWHLRiayD Tue Jun 11 17:14:29 2019 No.13279968 Visiting "Best Buy", as a kid in Y2K, used to be a special occasion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:25:47 2019 No.13280038 >>13275146 europe looks like this too

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:27:48 2019 No.13280049 could the fifth element be considered burgerpunk? I would read that shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:31:07 2019 No.13280068 >>13275468 It depends where you are. America is a giant fucking continent. Where I live is woods and farmland and 15 minutes away is a 100k small city.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:33:54 2019 No.13280088 >>13275927 Uncle Ted was right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:36:51 2019 No.13280108 >>13274166 If a meteor regressed us to stone age standards tomorrow people will be fantasizing how comfy the Burgerpunk life is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:39:38 2019 No.13280119 >>13280108 Except those that never experienced it nor dreamed of it. A longing for something despicable is more disgusting than the thing-in-itself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:47:34 2019 No.13280189 >>13280119 >Except those that never experienced it nor dreamed of it. Those are the people I'm referring to actually. It's like how some people idealize cyberpunk despite it being a sad reality in large cities.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:58:51 2019 No.13280253 >>13280189 And people like this are ridiculed to no end. Let them fantasize, maybe they'll write a book on the few remaining rolls of toilet paper after the eventual collapse of modern civilization.

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:10:49 2019 No.13280315

>>13277949
>On a per-capita basis, these days in the USA you're probably more likely to meet someone who is interesting/well-read/etc outside of major cities and metro regions. An inversion from 30+ years ago. But I digress.
I don't know if I'd say that (but granted I am in Canada). It seems to me that consumerism just kind of changed to be more media centric as young people ran out of the space and money to do anything else. Obviously most of them are just on the Internet now (myself included), but more people are reading than ever before (or so I've been told). Reading (now more than ever) is probably one of the cheapest and least space-intensive hobbies there is, especially for a city-dweller with access to a major library. Why do you think you would be more likely to find that sort of person in a suburb or rural area? In my experience, those tend to be where you find people with "real" hobbies that require space and money to practice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:12:46 2019 No.13280325 >>13277821 I was expecting people to think I was autistic, but you put it into words better than I could have. That's exactly what it's like.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:13:47 2019 No.13280331 >>13279583 False

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:14:21 2019 No.13280334 Would a burgerpunk book be written in the style of a scifi book but only describe the most normal of technology? Has that been done before? As if it was outlandish and predicting the future with over the top descriptions of a fuckin iPhone

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:15:56 2019 No.13280342 >>13274166 Is that San Antonio?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:29:15 2019 No.13280414 >>13275468 cope... most of the US is empty. it's a fucking huge place and there hasn't been nearly enough time to fill it out. europe is WAY more densely populated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:31:45 2019 No.13280423 >>13275355 miles of strip malls with massive parking lots and full of interchangeable stores all selling the same worthless imported garbage

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:34:45 2019 No.13280440

>>13280414
Europe's population is mostly in organically developed urban zones, or contained rural zones. Because of this, it tends to feel a lot more human but also natural than the sprawling zones of suburbia/exurbia and utterly empty ruralia that dominate a lot of the US.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:36:18 2019 No.13280445 >>13277250 the feels

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:37:20 2019 No.13280448 Please. Someone make a burgerpunk chart.

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:39:00 2019 No.13280462

>>13277250
Does anyone else ever do weird stuff like, when I look at this picture I start thinking things like
>The drinks nearest the door are least "safe" because they're least in the "fort" of the store and closest to the harsh outside world
>If I owned that store I'd always be worried people would steal the drinks closest to the door, if I owned a building I'd want everything safe in my fort
>Why does the inside of a building have a "feel" like it's an integral purple space and the outside also has a feel like it's a less integral, rushing river

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:44:33 2019 No.13280482

>>13275411
>Tinder
Burgerpunk is from 1980 to 2000s. Basically the apex of multinationals and international capital being secure due to the Soviet system falling into decline before inevitably collapsing. Then 9/11 happens and there is still a sense that the world can be conquered, but after Occupy it starts to become obvious to people on both sides that things are going to get worse before they get better. Economic precarity drives people towards xenophobia and ultra-nationalism after decades of landlording with no money down and driving 2 cars on one income was the norm. The Age of the Whopper ended in 2012, at the latest, and probably earlier.

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:48:09 2019 No.13280499

>>13280462
Yeah I kind of know what you mean about the river. It's like the inside is a safe place from the transience of the world, like when you come to your front door after a long walk or road trip - protected, controlled, and familiar. Is that what you mean?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:50:00 2019 No.13280502 File: 1.86 MB, 430x215, Rhh.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13280482 >Then 9/11 happens and there is still a sense that the world can be conquered This shit is hilarious, burgers think of themselves as the center of the universe.

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:52:40 2019 No.13280509

>>13280448
I can only suggest films. Can't say I've ever read a book that approached the sentiment, though I'm sure they exist.
>The OC (2004 - 2008) was peak Burgerpunk (it was also written by a Jewish guy and like all American media, disproportionately concerns itself with the experience of being Jewish in America).
>2000s Era Fast Food commercials ("I forgot my Mighty Kids Meal!")
>The Merchants of Cool (Frontline Documentary)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:56:38 2019 No.13280522 Anything by Noah Cicero.

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:56:48 2019 No.13280523

>>13280502
What? No. I'm Canadian. 9/11 happened and most people associate that with the end of the Bill Clinton era - Francis Fukuyama was wrong and we aren't going to live in the vaporwave dream of tomorrow, we're going to be fighting Muslims for the next hundred years.

Only that wasn't the real sentiment at the time. People still believed for a long while that it was possible for America to win these internecine conflicts. Then the financial meltdown happened and people start to realize how pointless it was to spend billions of dollars in regime change wars that didn't even end up producing lasting change. That's when the dream collapses - Muslims don't want McDonalds.

>>13280509
To add to this
>Jihad versus McWorld
>The End of History and the Last Man by Francis Fukuyama
>Vaporwave in general
>Office Space
>Friends

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 19:01:21 2019 No.13280546 >>13280523 >we're going to be fighting Muslims for the next hundred years we probably won't just fight muslims for israel, say we're fighting for israel

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 19:05:07 2019 No.13280561

>>13280523
Chinamen too, China's gonna start gene editing and we'll be locked in the war to end all wars with them.

Keeping in mind Chinese and Muslims are not Westerners, they have no interest in a "just war," they intuitively see themselves as the only thing that deserves to exist, they don't care about overriding other cultures or obliterating spiritual or biological diversity, they do not care about ANYTHING other than putting as many Muslims or as many Chinamen on every continent and filling the entire world until it's completely choked out with their own kind and nothing else is left.

Those people are about to acquire technologies, illicitly or otherwise, capable of producing generations of superhumanly strong and durable, perfectly obedient slave soldiers, within the next generation. Not only will they be able to overwhelm everything else on earth with a new bifurcated humanity composed of factory-farmed chinkoid/araboid soldier-drones, but they will force an arms race of similar genetic modification among all other peoples unless they're stopped from doing this.

The only outcome to this century is either total annihilation of the human spirit or total destruction of most of Asia and its human populations. There is no way around this anymore. It could have been avoided by other means, maybe a century ago. But unrestrained acceleration has made it inevitable at this point. The only choice left is between death and victory.

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 19:08:49 2019 No.13280577

>>13280440
>Europe's population is mostly in organically developed urban zones,
pfft, your shitty villages wouldn't exist if not for their proximity to railways so that they can bring in money from working in the cities. your new buildings are ugly soulless concrete structures built on modern thinking and your complete lack of economy. i would say the US is more organically developed economically, our small towns are quaint brick urban centers (which look nothing like that interstate oasis pic, that's just a rest area off the highway) that service the ruralia as you put it. the open space of america is nice and scenic, not to mention useful, we don't have to put our nuke plants in the middle of the fucking city. our insufferable liberals don't extend into the countryside either. i'm a dual citizen btw, are you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 19:14:31 2019 No.13280609 >>13280342 Yes

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 19:39:19 2019 No.13280741
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>>13275468
The US has endless nature compared to your, I'm going to guess, Scandinavian country. I mean Alaska exists for one thing. But here's a picture I took out my window yesterday. My American transportation system can also bring me to the center of a city of three million in half an hour. It's a big country, you can find most things here.

>>13277167
Yet also, look at all this emptiness

>>13277575
Cities without supermarkets are such a pain.

>>13277949
The city is growing around the back of Pendleton though.

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 19:41:51 2019 No.13280754
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>>13274166
Haven't read Infinite Jest but I have read some of DFW's short stories. He's only tenuously burgerpunk, as is DeLillo.

The closest thing to burgerpunk you can get from any medium is in videogames, Grand Theft Auto being by far the most obvious example. When it comes to film, I'd recommend The Florida Project.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 19:59:33 2019 No.13280871 let's get this burgerpunk chart made

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:12:47 2019 No.13280929 >>13280448 I'm on it, but it's going to look horrible.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:13:58 2019 No.13280934 >>13280741 >a fat dog woa nigger

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:13:58 2019 No.13280935 >>13280754 You can add Gummo, Slacker, and maybe Julien Donkey Boy from what I remember of it to the list of Burgercore kino.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:16:14 2019 No.13280943 File: 132 KB, 400x400, 1548350051359.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13280561 Based Chinamen

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:16:25 2019 No.13280945 >>13280754 Idiocracy is THE burgerpunk film

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:18:49 2019 No.13280954 >>13280945 Doesn't count because it takes place in the future. If Idiocracy is Burgerpunk then so is Bladerunner.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:20:22 2019 No.13280962 >>13280954 bladerunner is known as cyberpunk

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:25:14 2019 No.13280995 >>13280962 That's my point. Portrayals of ultra consumerist life in the future should be cyberpunk but when it's in present day it's Burgerpunk.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:31:52 2019 No.13281030 >>13280954 I think it can be an exception purely on aesthetics and premise even if its based in the future.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:36:54 2019 No.13281063 File: 1.62 MB, 2576x1932, 20190610_141843.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13280934 It's a baby bear.

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:56:20 2019 No.13281165
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Here's what I have so far. I don't think it's very good.
My criteria:
Books from the election of Reagan onward, with 9/11 as the central focus point, that either try to or untinentionally make some sort of grand statement about the US and its culture at the time of writing.
My questions to you:
Should the books about later political developments made in the post-Bush era be kept, or should it be limited to direct commentary on the American consummerist lifestyle?
Should there be a cap on the time period, and what should it be: the financial crisis, Obama's election, Trump's, etc.?

I also know it looks horrible and will fix that once the selection is finalized.

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 21:13:07 2019 No.13281232

>>13281165
Peak burger may or may not have occured. But burgerpunk (or anypunk) happens in the devolution. When the culture has lost any optimism, everyone can see it is failing the people, and all that is left is a hedonistic frenzy until overwhelmed death.
So I'm saying burgerpunk is now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 21:16:01 2019 No.13281245 >>13280448 Tim and Eric

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 21:22:36 2019 No.13281279

>>13281165
Burger punk is the era of globalization, so Reagan onward is a good start. I don't think there should be a cut off point because it still exists today and will for a long time. Malls may be dying, but strip malls keep getting put up. The US workforce is more and more service oriented. Climate change and nuclear war still hang over our heads as we consume stranger and less useful products to fill the void at the direction of our corporate overlords. I think politics should only play into it when it reinforces the pointlessness of the oppressive consumerist zeitgeist. Financial loss, trade wars, third world manufacturing of goods, lack of access to health care or other government subsidies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 21:22:44 2019 No.13281280 >>13281165 add Reagan Diaries

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 21:25:34 2019 No.13281301 File: 611 KB, 1279x712, 1560134932003.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13274166 >>13274189 >>13274194 >>13274216 >>13274335 >Burgerpunk. Topkek

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 21:31:51 2019 No.13281342 >>13274166 >Already read White Noise Just about all of Delilo counts in some measure.I'd add Snow Crash, which is burgerpunk + futurism. And, as others have said, Infinite Jest is the epitome, the teleos, of Burgerpunk

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 21:39:55 2019 No.13281383 >>13281342 >i dont know what futurism is eat a dick nigger

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 21:44:26 2019 No.13281409 >>13274166 Jennifer Government. In the book schools are run by corporations like McDonalds and everyone assumes the last name of their employer. So your name would be John Walmart, your wife is named Jane GM and your daughter is named Josie McDonalds.

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 21:44:58 2019 No.13281412
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>>13277250
>>13277512
>>13277537
>I feel there is a type comfort hearing the flourescent hum of consumer capitalism in empty supermarkets.

I think what this all comes down to - the things discussed in those linked posts, Vaporwave and its offshoots, the romanticization of dead malls and late-night supermarkets - is that there is a kind of subliminal appreciation or acceptance or acknowledgement of Acceleration.

In a sense, we almost understand that these meccas of Capital, the physical mediums of consumerism, in their advancement and acceleration, do not abandon the humanity that serves them. They take up aspects of this humanity: loneliness, the acknowledgement of abandonment, a kind of neediness and longing, the shame of uselessness, the taint of disrepair and age, etc. In accelerating Capital, it is personalized. The more we think of it as a force, as a living concept in some sense, the more it is transformed by the very humanity it is accelerating past. It will likely overtake us despite this. But it won't be able to escape the humanity it gains.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 21:45:37 2019 No.13281416 Help me General Electric wants me dead

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 21:53:51 2019 No.13281440

>>13279642
I'd agree with that actually, but I think there's a relatively clear demarcation between the greater LA area (which to my mind ends just north of Ventura) and the Santa Barbara metro area (which starts around Carpinteria). Which is perhaps only some small separation, but it's more of a separtion than you'll find from Ventura through San Clemente which might as well just be one giant developed metro area given the lack of any buffer between the various and assorted cities that make up the stretch.

>>13280315
More people probably are reading today, but most of that reading is (1) social media, and (2) (to the extent it extends to books) YA genre fiction. As far as people in suburban or rural areas, I have found (anecdotally, I admit) those who have your "real" hobbies and the attendant space and money correlated with those hobbies generally are more interesting/better read/etc. I think the two likely go hand in hand.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 22:14:14 2019 No.13281515 File: 32 KB, 534x300, smh fam.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13281165 >tom clancy's rainbow six >burger punk that's like the opposite of burger punk

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 22:19:54 2019 No.13281542 >>13274491 Deep Ellum is shit and already heavily gentrified. I used to go to a lot of punk shows and the worst were always in Deep Ellum. The parking is impossible and everything is very expensive. There's nothing punk about Deep Ellum.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 22:21:06 2019 No.13281547 >>13281542 the burgers are pretty punk

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 22:23:18 2019 No.13281561 >>13281416 re you ok

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 22:28:46 2019 No.13281588 File: 72 KB, 750x400, CR-Inline-top-picks-Toyota-Yaris-02-17.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] rapes your country to death

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 22:40:45 2019 No.13281639
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>>13281412
I'm quite sure this picture is from the video game Mirror's Edge from 2008
It is a gold mine for these 'liminal spaces' and the level design is god-tier for a video game

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 22:41:58 2019 No.13281647 Any books for cringepunk?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 22:42:55 2019 No.13281652 >>13281588 My country is China?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 22:53:55 2019 No.13281693 >>13281515 Why exactly? Tom Clancy style military novels are as burgerpunk as you can get.

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 23:01:32 2019 No.13281730

>>13281693
well rainbow six is about eco-terrorists trying to create a new world order and the counter-terrorist team that takes them down
that doesn't sound very burgerpunk to me

i mean burgerpunk just seems to be the state of the country, not a spy/terrorist thriller

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 23:07:26 2019 No.13281755

How's this for burgerpunk?

> Harry rode shotgun. The white sedan flew through the sanguine night, past billboards, tall fast food signs, slabs and tiers of aging concrete indistinguishable from the last. A little rust gathered on the cars’ wheel wells, the tires were a little flat - this was a 2003 Nissan, not looking too bad on the outside, if anything a little beat up, but its interior, where Harry rode somewhat uncomfortably, told a different story altogether. His feet kind of kicked around like a schoolkid’s would - dangled, more like it - seeing, after all, that Harry stood at just 5 feet 11 inches tall.

>Driving was his “friend”, a mysterious fellow who’d picked him up from the midnight roadside an hour earlier, a man who called himself Thin “Howling fan” Todd.

>“Todd?” quizzed Harry.

>“Yessir,” half-replied Todd, more intent on the vape pen dangling from his chapped lip than on the dark road ahead of them both. Todd’s brief reply took over a minute to arrive.

>Thin Todd was also a manlet, standing a mere 6 feet 0 inches tall, but, as he’d told Harry just after picking the young hitchhiker up, “we can’t all be lanklets in this American globohomo Burgerpunk. In fact, little dude, our bodies are shrinking at an alarming rate - by 2100 we’ll all be pygmies lil duuuude.” Thin Todd extended his tattooed wrist in explanation - an ink infochart was displayed thereon, detailing the falling heights of Americans across the homo homoglobe.

>Harry got to his belated question, “Where did you say we were going again?”

>“Welp,” answered Thin Todd, “I’m going home to McVille #321, McState #32, which is hereabouts ten hours away, and you said you wanted dropping off at someplace called “the Ovum.”

>“The Ovum,” remembered Harry, “that’s right.”

>The Ovum was a new-fangled Cosplay convention, sponsored by Onahole and Wendy’s. Attendees to the Ovum were expected to arrive completely nude, which explained Harry’s lack of clothing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 23:07:34 2019 No.13281759 >>13281730 I took it as something broader. That story seems to really capture the mentality of many of our most burgery compatriots from the time between the Cold War and 9/11.

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 23:19:09 2019 No.13281811
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>>13281759
yeah i understand your point of view and i'm thinking about it and it seems very close to burgerpunk but not quite past the line
its also worth noting that many of the terrorists and locations the terrorists attack aren't even american

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 23:21:27 2019 No.13281824 File: 768 KB, 1920x1080, Spike_Spiegel_No_Background.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13275275 For the love of god, I want all my hispanic cousins to stop acting like niggers. >ey CUZ nigga Fuck outta here with that shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 23:28:03 2019 No.13281854 >>13275275 Why don't you spics ShOuTs OuT your SSN instead

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 23:31:29 2019 No.13281869 >>13275411 Taxi Driver but it's Uber Driver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IAJFCxAP_Y

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 23:31:34 2019 No.13281871 >>13280108 I had an idea for a story based around this where the survivors misinterpreted fast food joints to be cultic temples.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 23:34:02 2019 No.13281880 >>13281165 Neil Postman was a nice addition I hadn't considered. Add the video content to it, though. >>13280523

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 23:37:20 2019 No.13281896 >>13281409 Lmao. Don't know if you saw that story about how McDonalds are now American embassies in Germany. Same energy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 23:41:56 2019 No.13281917 >>13275451 Tao Lin in general is exactly like this, yeah, before he discovered psychedelics

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 23:42:06 2019 No.13281918 File: 1.13 MB, 1303x810, 2019-06-11 22_41_20-‘Freedom Gas,’ the Next American Export - The New York Times - Pale Moon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13281896 This train has no brakes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 23:44:32 2019 No.13281932 Good thread, even as third worlder I can relate to this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 23:49:35 2019 No.13281963 >>13281416 hoof post

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 23:50:40 2019 No.13281969 >>13281165 Add McDonald's Red overlayed over the bg picture

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 00:17:47 2019 No.13282111 File: 55 KB, 562x750, 1550304041971.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what a great thread, thank you all

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 00:45:35 2019 No.13282222 What places in America are the least infected by Burgerpunk, places that still feel "human"? Is living rural and enjoying life's simplicities our only hope?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 01:12:54 2019 No.13282314 >>13281412 I like your takes on the /acc aesthetic. Do you have a twitter/blog of some sort?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 01:16:12 2019 No.13282328 >>13274166 Nightmare Alley by William Lindsey Gresham, in a sense, but only marginally. Still a good book nonetheless.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 01:35:32 2019 No.13282393 >>13274655 Texas has a serious billboard pollution problem. It ruins the fucking state, nothing but refineries, giant billboards and box stores/restaurants surrounded by parking lots. I would go mad living there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 01:43:41 2019 No.13282418 >>13282222 the midwest and alaska

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 05:33:30 2019 No.13283064 >>13280954 >>13281030 it's set in the future utilizing some kind of distancing effect, but is about the, then, present, so it's still burgerpunk

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 05:35:42 2019 No.13283071 >>13274166 Read George Saunders. Pure Kino burgerpunk.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 08:19:55 2019 No.13283485 >>13275355 >Oil wars Israel wars*

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 09:09:08 2019 No.13283673 >>13275411 I'll be stealing this. I'm finishing my novel now. Mist of the conflict part is done. Just the fluff chapters are remaining. This is perfect. >please don't hate me anon. I have to somehow make up for my lack of original talent

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 09:39:43 2019 No.13283757

>>13281639
Yeah its the second level. It was god-tier, but I suppose it had to be a for a free-running game to work well. Did you ever play the second?

>>13277512
>>13277537
These are comforting stories to read. I felt the same when doing shit-tier retail jobs late at night. Add late-night Christmas shifts into the aesthetic and its next level of comfiness.

>>13279757
Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

>>13281412
Interesting ideas. But isn't that humanity (Vaporwave, consumer comfort, aesthetics)
merely our own projections onto this inhuman Capital landscape, rather than the landscape itself becoming imbued by these romantic, human properties? I really like that idea though, whether Capital is continually and actively accelerated or not it will likely surpass us as a species, but these humanistic offshoots that we create from it could potentially derail it. Maybe humanizing Capitalism is the only attempt left to change the system.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 09:49:30 2019 No.13283788 File: 55 KB, 777x777, 1512179257554.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13274166 Fuck off, muttjannies. >>13274422 >>13274430 >>13274431

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 09:57:23 2019 No.13283818 File: 578 KB, 850x587, madrid.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13274335 >error 404 burgerland soul not found What went wrong? Any book for this feeling?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 10:00:18 2019 No.13283831 File: 1.73 MB, 2550x1722, sandniggers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13274166

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 10:19:15 2019 No.13283885 >>13275275 At jury duty right now

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 10:22:37 2019 No.13283900

>>13274166
The suburbs are living ruins. There is a sense of decay, of failing, that feels like looking at the neck fat of a middle aged woman that was once beautiful. It's decadence that has worn itself out. The eclipse of the whole mechanism is the feeling of light spilling out into an emptiness that once illuminated an emptiness, watching.

BurgerPunk is living in life, it's the gaze that men have in strip clubs but as a whole way of life. As social media ruined interaction, the mass quantification of our lives is the re-augmentation of our lives. Our life isn't the sunlight streaming through a globby bay window, it's the sq footage of the trapezoidal wood planks. It's not the love we had, but the income year over year.

It's a spiritual rift. BurgerPunk is death, the scalping of life with objectivity, the ending of nature with routine, it is the ending of memories, of permanence, of beauty, of time itself. Same bat channel, same bat time, same bat place, for forever or tomorrow - in the hellscape, there is no difference.

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 10:31:08 2019 No.13283936

>>13274166
The suburbs are living ruins. There is a sense of decay, of failing, that feels like looking at the neck fat of a middle aged woman that was once beautiful. It's decadence that has worn itself out. The eclipse of the whole mechanism is the feeling of light spilling out into an emptiness that once illuminated an emptiness, watching.

BurgerPunk is living in life, it's the gaze that men have in strip clubs but as a whole way of life. As social media ruined interaction, the mass quantification of our lives is the re-augmentation of our lives. Our life isn't the sunlight streaming through a globby bay window, it's the sq footage of the trapezoidal wood planks. It's not the love we had, but the income year over year.

It's a spiritual rift. BurgerPunk is death, the scalping of life with objectivity, the ending of nature with routine, it is the ending of memories, of permanence, of beauty, of time itself. Same bat channel, same bat time, same bat place, for forever or tomorrow - in the hellscape, there is no difference.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 10:32:11 2019 No.13283941 >>13283900 dying in life* in a corporate meeting, sorry senpai

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 10:53:42 2019 No.13284041 File: 1.61 MB, 288x288, 1551332492174.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13283831 The weird thing about developments like that is they aren't company towns. People want to live in those places because they like it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 10:54:20 2019 No.13284044 >>13274419 that was literally stock footage

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 11:29:51 2019 No.13284208

>>13280108
burgerpunk probably looks like a nightmare for, say, the inhabitants of the serene mountain republics in central asia, or mongolia, who cannot fathom why one would live in OP's picture. yet it's also a pipedream for people hustling in shitholes like bangladesh and other places that manufacture our consumer goods; where the west and its lifestyles have been dangled in front of their noses via capitalism and media exposure yet their countries mostly remain in utter desolation and depravity. you don't need a meteor to spawn these people, they'd kill for a slice of the burgerpunk life. they come to america to drive fucking taxis

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 11:34:33 2019 No.13284231 >>13280561 i read this in trump's voice (with his usual stylistic flourishes) we need to bring back "chinamen", it's the funniest word

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 11:37:07 2019 No.13284240 >>13280934 >>13281063 lovely exchange, thank u

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 11:55:57 2019 No.13284304

>>13275146
If all was some cultural landmark, then those cultural references would lose meaning to many people somewhat fast. This isn't culture, you're right, but it is commerce, and mich to your suspected ire, the world needs work to run, it ain't magic.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 12:08:08 2019 No.13284339 >>13284318 seapu–oh wait

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 12:12:22 2019 No.13284365 >>13283673 That's the life that all my friends from highschool live. Please give me a free copy of the book when you get published and buy me a beer, and a shout out in the thank u :3

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 12:12:28 2019 No.13284367 >>13281652 Nah, the escalators are doing that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 12:13:34 2019 No.13284373 >>13283831 Getting some Killer7 vibes from that pic

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 12:14:35 2019 No.13284377 >>13281755 Takes the elements of the genre and pushes it to the point of parody. I like it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 12:16:51 2019 No.13284386 >>13283485 >Israel wars *Our-greatest-aircraft-carrier wars.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 12:29:12 2019 No.13284439 >>13275411 please anon, we need this

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 12:49:32 2019 No.13284504 >>13275468 >I never can quite relate to you Americans. >I've never even been to Northern America Do you really believe all of America looks exactly like those pictures?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 12:52:22 2019 No.13284515 Here is the soundtrack to burgerpunk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qut4OjmBS0

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 12:55:44 2019 No.13284529 >>13284515 fuck outta here with that forced shit. corny vaporwave doesn't even approach the mood and feel we're after here

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 12:57:18 2019 No.13284542 File: 92 KB, 1024x918, thisisgood.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13275355 Why am I living in a Burgerpunk novel?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 13:02:03 2019 No.13284561 >>13284439 I'm trying to finish a book about a lawyer trapped in a mexican restaurant first, and anyways another anon said he's going to steal the idea.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 13:03:52 2019 No.13284569 >>13275411 wow im sure this wont just read like a collection of caspermag/fluland entries ie dressed-up shitposts

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 13:17:56 2019 No.13284610

>>13284041
That could be a picture of the “neighborhood” I was born and raised in, and nah, people aren’t jazzed about it as you’d think. They’re the capitalist version of commie blocks. People live in them because they’re cheap (many function as refugee camps for Californian economic refugees nowadays), and they check all the boxes, but I know only a few people dull enough to really enjoy them. In fact, there’s a real dissatisfaction there. They enjoy life in spite of it.
Sorry to blogpost, but I can’t help but feel like I’m objectively less of a person being from a place like this. Burgerpunk is interesting to me because other people see it as a novelty. Very few of my childhood memories are not connected in some way to Del Webb housing developments, shopping malls indoor or outdoor, or the Cartoon Network. I’ve done my best to try to make up for it, but I don’t know if you can build a foundation after the whole burger edifice has gone up. Grown in bad soil. Stinks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 13:25:18 2019 No.13284636 >>13280482 As long as cities look like what OP posted then we're living in a burgerpunk world. That is until industrialization turns back a few notches or disappears completely and we go back to our hunter gatherer days.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 13:30:28 2019 No.13284658 >>13275151 seconded, Imo one of the best books ever on the US

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 13:44:10 2019 No.13284733

>>13283831
This looked too familiar to me I had to look it up. It is, in fact, in Las Vegas. I lived there for a few years. This is just on the outskirts of town. Burgers know Vegas is literally in the middle of the desert but is actually a fairly large city, thus why the picture looks so surreal. If taken from a different angle you'd see the strip (about 20 minute drive from here if I'm not mistaken). A community like this is mostly people in their 20s & 30s who work in clubs, bars, etc. down there. In case anyone was curious.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 14:23:45 2019 No.13284908 >>13283757 >not just embracing it Weak >>13284733 Have you received 2 shots in the head and left for dead on the desert?

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 14:34:27 2019 No.13284957
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It's a depressing thread because I relate too much. I live in rural Mississippi these days, and I took this picture directly next to a parking lot at Walmart. It's a town of about 10,000 people, so the store gets plenty of traffic, but that doesn't help at all to prevent it from feeling absolutely soul-sucking. There's this kind of mundaneness under every aspect of suburban life, how nothing feels permanent or human about a row of commercial developments all built in different styles from different decades with the cheapest materials available, how they cut and parceled the land into something unrecognizable.

I think that while other countries are affected by the times, the U.S. lives and dies on the times. There is a real rootless feeling to the nation I'm sure you're all aware of. It's a feeling not even other anglo countries have. The more I think about this, the more it moves back further and further until you arrive at the founding of the country. In preparing space for every community to believe as it wants and operate as it desires, you lose the chance for any true, unified culture to form. The Walmarts and KFCs won because there was never anything to resist them.

Apologies if this was rambling, but I hope the non-Americans understand that we don't all like how this ended up. I sure don't.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 14:40:43 2019 No.13285002 File: 41 KB, 301x474, E9F3B91D-6305-44D8-A3CE-541E8152EE9C-542-0000008593095841.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13274166 E S S E N T I A L S S E N T I A L

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 14:46:11 2019 No.13285031

Burgerpunk is the literary movement I've been waiting my entire life to become apart of. I finally have a purpose; a place to carve and cement my life's work. Is this what contentment feels like? It's beautiful; my job, life, relationships almost seem meaningful now: contributing to a culture I despise, while indulging in it, simultaneously. I am
>Burgerpunk

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 15:01:44 2019 No.13285130 >>13285031 good for you anon. break a leg

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 15:02:46 2019 No.13285136 shoplifting at american apparel is prime burgerpunk

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 15:19:11 2019 No.13285226 >>13281896 I think that‘s austria

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 15:29:31 2019 No.13285284 >>13277600 >>13277686 this is the aesthetic i live in

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 15:35:40 2019 No.13285326 >>13281639 mirror's edge was fucking phenomenal. i turned the dialogue off and had one of the most atmospheric gaming experiences ever playing through that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 15:59:32 2019 No.13285419 >>13285130 Thanks, I appreciate you urging me on

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 16:08:24 2019 No.13285469 >the world being obssessed living rent free in their heads burgerpunk supreme

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 16:46:27 2019 No.13285669 >>13275411 That would just be my diary desu

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 16:49:56 2019 No.13285688

>>13285669
That was kinda the point. I thought about all my friends from highschool that dropped out of college and sit around their parents house playing dota 2 or MTG arena or whatever multiplayer braindump is popular these days.That's their life. That's their experience. I may have drank a decade of my life away, but at least it wasn't that pointless.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 16:50:51 2019 No.13285698 >>13282418 >the midwest if only you knew lmfao

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 17:07:12 2019 No.13285806

>>13284610
I'm using "want" loosely. They are all strivers, so what they want is a millionaire mansion, but among their options this is the one they chose. They could choose apartments in the city for the same price or less, plus a shorter commute. They could've bought land themselves and built something half the size but ten times the land. A hundred different housing construction companies wouldn't build these bizarre things if people thought some other option was better, they'd have built that thing.
Now these people may still have troubled lives, but they would have those troubles anyway. Their marriage didn't fall apart because the neighbor's house is 5 feet away. Their drinking problem isn't because the nearest liquor store is 20 minutes away. The materialism and dissolution of family started long before these places were dreamt up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 17:43:00 2019 No.13286000 >>13275411 >loiters with friends at gas stations and grocery store parking lots For the love of...it's true. It's all true.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 17:53:57 2019 No.13286041 File: 23 KB, 284x400, 10298216.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 9-11 is the millenial JFK

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 18:13:53 2019 No.13286131 >>13286000 >>loiters with friends at gas stations and grocery store parking lots i wish i still had friends i could do that with, also: checked

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 18:31:56 2019 No.13286225 File: 76 KB, 760x506, 168015b-760x506.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13284515 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYRYyuam2tc >>13275355 you forgot people from everywhere

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 18:32:19 2019 No.13286228

>>13286000
I can't properly interpret my tribbs...what does it mean?
>>13286131
I haven't loitered in a parking lot for awhile; got my own driveway to do that now (by my own I mean rented). However, looking back, I've had some really good memories in parking lots; drinking out of paper bags with friends I thought I'd have forever. Now, I'm just a street wise burgerpunk with nothing to lose.

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 18:38:19 2019 No.13286258

OP here thanks for all the reqs in here and fun anecdotes, ideas and such. I just saw this silly word on some other board (think it was /tv/) and it makes me chuckle so I thought Id ask my fav board about it. Thanks again for the great thread. Peace burgerbros (and ofc non-burger contributers!)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 18:39:26 2019 No.13286263 >>13277174 all the best memes are from /tv/

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 18:40:28 2019 No.13286271

>>13286228
>I've had some really good memories in parking lots; drinking out of paper bags with friends I thought I'd have forever. Now, I'm just a street wise burgerpunk with nothing to lose.
>*drone shot over cityscape while non offensive elevator pop rock plays*

If this isn't the introductory line to the burgerpunk novel, I don't know what would be better.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 18:46:17 2019 No.13286297 >>13286271 I'm honored you think so... Honestly, I know OP just said he got the term from another board, but I feel like I have an identity now. Those lines flowed from me effortlessly.

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 18:48:08 2019 No.13286308

>>13277250
These pitiful creatures, forgetful as they are, do not know that they are in hell. Those miserable unsatiating liquids are laughably unsuccessful imitations, pathetic and flawed attempts to recreate the soma that they barely recollect, they achieve only the slightest likeness, recreating only the most base and superficial elements with confused features and merely depicting it with shoddy misremembered queues. I see the image of the lowly world too, from my time there, that barren agonising plane hidden from the light, unilluminated, constantly writhing, yearning for something it cannot reach. I will descend there a thousand times more before I can be free, I will cling on to my recollection of the light, preserve my yearning through the amnsesia but only for what is true and close to the sun. so that I might better find the glimmerings that trickle through, and slake my wonder on their hallow.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 19:33:19 2019 No.13286508 >>13277250 >>13274422 Jnes deleting any negative comments in this thread. Why?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 19:35:08 2019 No.13286520 File: 1.06 MB, 272x480, Shut_It_Down.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13286508

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 19:58:10 2019 No.13286658

>>13281639
Mirror's edge is one of my favorite games, actually. Mostly because of the environments/color scheming/aesthetic; it's stunning and singular. I knew the source, I just titled the filename differently.

>>13282314
>Do you have a twitter/blog of some sort?
Only to follow other /acc/ and /trad/ accounts that are far more insightful than my own.

>>13283757
>Interesting ideas. But isn't that humanity (Vaporwave, consumer comfort, aesthetics)
>merely our own projections onto this inhuman Capital landscape, rather than the landscape itself becoming imbued by these romantic, human properties?
As far as I see it, the process is kind of like a two way street. We project these feelings onto these spaces, but the spaces reflect them enough back onto us. A dead mall is sad because of the abandonment, because an empty place that used to be full of people feels emptier. But by the same token, you can almost feel something from the place itself - a vibe or a sensation - with a more human, almost thoughtful kind of sadness. It's a place unable to complete its task (upholding Capital, expanding consumerism), and there's something existential about it still being around. As far as I can feel, anyway. It's like seeing any item that can't fulfill its purpose - a child's doll in a warzone, or a single car on an empty showroom floor.

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 19:59:30 2019 No.13286667

>>13280561
>they don't care about overriding other cultures or obliterating spiritual or biological diversity, they do not care about ANYTHING other than putting as many Muslims or as many Chinamen on every continent and filling the entire world until it's completely choked out with their own kind and nothing else is left.
>they don't care about controlling the world through conquest
>they only care about controlling the world through conquest!
Genius post my dude.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:00:51 2019 No.13286680 >>13274166 >burgerpunk my new favorite word and genera

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:15:39 2019 No.13286748 >>13286658 I always got sad when I saw park benches with no one in them.

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:17:39 2019 No.13286764
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>>13283757
>Did you ever play the second?
no i didn't
i thought it paled in comparison to the 1st and never bought it lol

>you will never live in a city like this

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:18:47 2019 No.13286769

>>13277537
when i was tripping on mushrooms at night me and my buddies walked onto this on-campus construction site and were reveling in the phenomena of boundaries. The way in which layers of tarp and chainlink transcend their material dividing and render some spaces off limits in this arrestingly psychosocial way.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:22:29 2019 No.13286784 >>13281342 >Snow Crash >gamer fights computer virus tO saVe tHe wOrlD go back to ready player one subreddit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:23:57 2019 No.13286791 There aren't enough book recs here, and the infographic above isn't even complete. What else would be /burgerpunk/?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:26:26 2019 No.13286804 >>13274166 Some of those business might not be around much longer. I got to play the demos of MGS, Tekken 2, Jet Moto and Masters of Teräs Käsi on the store display ps console at Circuit City.

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:32:09 2019 No.13286829

>>13286784
>implying Snow Crash didn't have cultural relevance just as the internet blossomed
>implying it's anything even close to similar to RPO
Aside from the shitty writing, RPO is bad because it's full of nostalgiafagging and 80's references and I REMEMBER THAT. Snow Crash has none of that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:33:45 2019 No.13286836 >>13286784 >subreddit https://vocaroo.com/i/s0EkDdSP8xuN

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:37:18 2019 No.13286863 >>13286829 >Hiro Protagonist Snow Crash is the Courtney Love of Cyberpunk

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:39:21 2019 No.13286879
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>>13284515
The left side of pic related reminds me of a playroom in this mall I used to go to all the time as a kid. It has some great stores but it just closed down a couple months ago, it had been going on hard times for nearly 20 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4Y7wKfpOqY

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:45:23 2019 No.13286908
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>>13286879
Here's the liner text to the album I linked:

A GROUP OF HUMANS PRESUMED LOST FOR THE LAST DECADE AND A HALF WERE FOUND ALIVE CAMPING OUT IN THE BACK RECESSES OF A COSTCO SUPER MARKET. AFTER BEING LOST DEEP INSIDE OF THE COSTCO BUILDING FOR WEEKS WITHOUT ANY OUTSIDE CONTACT, THEY FINALLY STARTED THE SETTLEMENT OF "NO FEAR".

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:46:25 2019 No.13286913 >>13283818 Winning the war is probably the main reason.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:46:27 2019 No.13286914 File: 40 KB, 500x500, benji.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If we can add some Burgerpunk music, Sun Kil Moon's "Benji" is absolutely, 100% Burgerpunk

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:46:37 2019 No.13286915 >>13286791 /tv/ just invented the genre. How should there already be books of it? >>13286879 Nostalgia for burgerpunk seems like a misunderstanding of the feels.

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:49:54 2019 No.13286937

>>13286915
>/tv/ just invented the genre. How should there already be books of it?
We already have a list here. Whether or not it was just "invented", there are certainly books that have these feels/themes. >>13281165

I'd probably add some George Saunders, but I'n not sure which work.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:58:11 2019 No.13286971 >>13286836 is that your voice? quite sexy and confident uwu

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:58:25 2019 No.13286973 >>13286915 Can you link where /tv/ was discussing it? I can't seem to find it >>13286937 >books that have these feels/themes I'd consider authors like Pynchon, PKD, and Ballard to be 'proto-burger-punk'; can't really think of anymore off top.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 20:59:05 2019 No.13286979 >>13286971 not me

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 21:00:26 2019 No.13286984 >>13277250 Then they blame the homeless for feeling the urge to nestle along such places.

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 21:09:51 2019 No.13287014
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>>13286791
I always got the cheap plastic burgerpunk feeling from political pundit books you'd see on sale. They always seemed like pure consumable vapidity to me, and remind me of display tables at that greet you at the entrance of big chain bookstores.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 21:14:38 2019 No.13287038 >>13286791 I was making the chart last night. Had trouble making it feel both coherent and complete, so I went to bed.

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 21:17:41 2019 No.13287052

>>13287014
I agree, they definitely count. There's a distinct lack of authenticity in all those books, and a kind of post- 9/11 vibe throughout. Though I was looking for fiction more than anything.

>>13287038
Good luck, anon. I'd like to see you work on it more.
>>13286973
>I'd consider authors like Pynchon, PKD, and Ballard to be 'proto-burger-punk'; can't really think of anymore off top.
Ballard probably counts the most, and he wrote just a little bit post-9/11 as well. I agree that Pynchon and PKD have the "feeling" of burgerpunk, but they lack the very important Reagan-era-and-onwards megacorps and consumerist/capitalist aesthetic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 21:22:03 2019 No.13287080 Ambient music to this thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdwjutII4Yw

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 21:27:39 2019 No.13287093 >>13287080 Ambient Nip music doesn't match the feeling of burgerpunk at all. The closest thing is hair metal, pop punk or a KISS album.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 21:41:27 2019 No.13287156 File: 27 KB, 342x406, burgerpunkattire.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13287093 take hair metal out and throw in nu-metal or nickelback/post-grunge bands and i'll agree with you

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 21:45:20 2019 No.13287173 File: 116 KB, 920x690, american urban planning 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 21:48:07 2019 No.13287188 File: 768 KB, 1280x720, american urban planning florida.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 21:51:00 2019 No.13287201 >>13287093 Is this perhaps more fitting? Pleasantly cheesy early 2000s pop punk? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dELDdaKBG0

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 21:53:03 2019 No.13287215

I just learned of a new type of road I always recognized, but didn't know there was a name for: Arterial road
>The primary function of an arterial road is to deliver traffic from collector roads to freeways or expressways, and between urban centres at the highest level of service possible. As such, many arteries are limited-access roads, or feature restrictions on private access.

I also have been trying to think of a more specific definition to the asthetic. I suppose it's polar opposite would be urban design, correct? Tight-knit, well thought out urban areas that are well funded and used. While burger punk is the opposite: spread out, land bought on tax speculation, and covers swaths of land, most of which unused. Think about it, out of a parkinglot, how much of it is really used up? 10%? 20% max? Why are parking lots so big?
http://mentalfloss.com/article/503014/why-america-has-so-many-empty-parking-spaces
>These city laws require that those building an apartment complex or shopping center or store have to provide a minimum number of spaces in off-street parking for customers to use.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 21:55:43 2019 No.13287233 File: 263 KB, 1200x800, 3732615241_75fe47d9f0_o.0.0-suburban-sprawl-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13287215 it's called suburban sprawl, in case you didn't know

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 21:56:48 2019 No.13287239 >>13287233 >0 fucking trees I live in Missouri, and I don't understand how people can live in these places

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Anonymous Wed Jun 12 21:59:39 2019 No.13287254

>>13287233
I know that anon, but I was trying to articulate it in a different way. I lived in the suburbs for a long while. In highschool my weekends were either a movie and chilis with the boys or a lan party. We didn't understand there was more to life than the endless neighborhoods and strip malls.

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 22:01:45 2019 No.13287266

>>13287239
Costs too much to move, and when a mortgage on a cookie cutter home is cheaper than renting a shitty 100 year old house, people see it as actualizing the american dream. They put blinders on to not see the lack of build quality or non-service industry jobs. They eat up land just like they eat up a 1/4lb with cheese. Don't forget the diet coke.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 22:05:29 2019 No.13287282 >>13277840 rolling

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 22:05:34 2019 No.13287283 >>13274166 not book but album "The Lonesome Crowded West" is the best depiction of burgerpunk

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 22:07:21 2019 No.13287297 File: 3.65 MB, 3000x3000, Twenty Percent.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What does the inside of burgerpunk look like?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 22:08:25 2019 No.13287308 >>13287254 ok i see

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 22:29:02 2019 No.13287393 >>13287283 Oh, YES.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 22:36:38 2019 No.13287414 File: 26 KB, 400x400, 8E7EF089-B418-4D83-ACAC-0A61F60A5F08.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13287297 Something like this, maybe?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 23:19:51 2019 No.13287623 >>13287297 this: >>13287414 but populated. vaporwave is burgerpunk in decay

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 23:48:22 2019 No.13287737 New tread >>13287339

Anonymous Thu Jun 13 02:37:53 2019 No.13288437

>>13274335
Jesus Christ, I opened the image without looking at the filename and I already knew it was Breezewood. When I was living in the Midwest I had a girlfriend on the East Coast and used to come through here every month. What you can only sort of see from this image is that this glut of obscene and ridiculous capitalism is in the middle of gorgeous Pennsylvania woods. Eerie as hell.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 02:47:53 2019 No.13288475 >>13275202 It's the same if you drive from Los Angeles to San Bernardino. You're in the desert, but never out of sight of a strip mall. It's an hour and a half drive due east.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 04:45:32 2019 No.13288827 >>13274166 LA Confidential

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 05:18:55 2019 No.13288927 >>13274166 Bret Easton Ellis PKD Hunter S. Thompson

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