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13297648 No.13297648 [Reply] [Original]

Chekov's Gun is a retarded concept

>> No.13297651

>>13297648
And yet Chekhov wrote pure patrician lit

What have you written?

>> No.13297654

>>13297648
Fuck off, lackwit!

>> No.13297661

>>13297648
>>13297651
>>13297654
it's just part of chekhov's ideas about writing, other great authors have other ideas, and he never shilled it so hard as cat lady english teachers do

>> No.13297662

>>13297648
yeah, a gun on the wall can be used to show that the owner of the house keeps guns on the wall

>> No.13297718

>>13297662
It’s a good rule of thumb for not writing unnecessary detail. Also, as every trope, can be played with and deconstructed in many ways. Even if it doesn’t materially shoot, it can be used e. g. as a symbol, object correlative or a red herring. Every trope is a retarded concept if you don’t develop it

>> No.13297742

>>13297648
See >>13297662, but really the point is that major narrative elements should have a payoff. Maybe the gun on the wall isn’t a major point, maybe it’s just decoration, but if it becomes a major aside in the scene in question then there better be some thematic reason for that in the same scene or a narrative reason revealed later. The basic dialectic of storytelling is tension and release.

>> No.13297791

>>13297648
I liked how it was subverted in 1Q84, though looking back the outcome was kind of obvious.

>> No.13298243

>>13297718
>>13297742
Chekhov wrote plays and short stories, where economy of language is crucial.
It's not a very good rule for novelists.

>> No.13298293

>>13297648
can you elaborate on that

>> No.13298341

>>13298243
Why not? If a detail is not meaningful at all, it’s just filler. You cut it and maybe get a good short story instead of a shitty novel

>> No.13298386

>>13297654
Lackwit will never catch on because it’s a stupid word.

>> No.13298448

>>13297648
Chekhov is a pseud

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