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What are your biggest spooks and how are you trying to fight them?

>> No.13379876

>>13379855
My lack of focus on the things I know I should focus on. Lack of self direction despite knowing it'd benefit me.

>> No.13379885

>>13379876
So your spook is lazyness?

>> No.13380024

>>13379885
my spook is lazyness. i gotta OVERCOME my dude. I gotta get PUMPED but it's easier to say your pumped then to actually be pumped. Gotta make it, bro.We're all gonna make it.

>> No.13380038

the fuck is a spook?

>> No.13380054

>>13380038
Basically, it's an idea that scares you. Some people fear God, some people fear diverting from their idology, some people fear moral and social laws, it's an idea that scares you.

>> No.13380069

I fear having to sell my labour-power to a capitalist in return for a wage but I can't do much about it on my own, and the stakes are heavily favoured against those with money and their lapdogs for any meaningful change to occur

>> No.13380504

>>13380069
Make plans, contacts. Organize. Build that union of egoists wherever you are, anon.

>> No.13380510

>>13380038
>>13380054
More clearly, it's an idea created only by your mind that doesn't physically exist, that scares you into submission until you become a slave to it.

>> No.13380519

>>13380504
>union of egoists
That's an oxymoron.

>> No.13380528
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>>13380519
Read the book anon

>> No.13380531

>>13379855
I think that the people in control are fucking things up and there's nothing I can do to stop them.

>> No.13380683

>>13380038
Wow, /lit/ is dead.

>> No.13380802

>>13380683
LOL

There are two types of people on this great earth. One complains about the quality of the food in a restaurant. The other storms to the back and puts his or her boot knife to the cook's throat.

If you aren't satisfied with the current state of life, this board, this thread.. Then you can change it or shut the fuck up. No one wants to hear about the dryness of your chicken marsala.

>> No.13380818

>>13380510
Like londonfrog is to spooks? Are spooks a spook?

>> No.13380832

>>13379855
depression. i know it's a big pharma myth but i still want to disappear. at least i'm not on meds

>> No.13380847

>>13380832
It could be the food you eat just as much as the attitude you make.

>> No.13380851

>>13380832
Autonomy is your best friend. Don't let them take it from you anon

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>>13379855
I consider myself ugly and I just can't stop feeling insecure about that.

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13381151

wanting to be a fuckin normie and other spooks like being a khv being a loser etc. I need to reread some passages of the unique desu

>> No.13381250

>>13380832
>>13380847
Yeah, I cured my depression eating clean and isolating myself from society, it was gone within 6-10 months. Sport and life organization also helps.
And if you are a social person, spend time with some friends.
Go read David Perlmutter to know about food and mental health

>> No.13381278

>>13379855
>right and wrong are spooks
>being spooked is wrong

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>>13381250
Wish I had the enthusiasm to do that.

>> No.13381542

>>13381323
enthusiasm is cultivated, it doesn't appear on it's own

>> No.13381563

>>13379855
My sexual desires. I'll never have sex and I am so sick of masturbating to porn. I just want it to stop. I've gone through so many nofap phases that last a week or two and then it collapses and I'm stuck feeling weak willed again.

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>>13379855
>>13380054
>>13380510
Its not simply a idea that gives you fear, but a idea or a principle that is not by defenition in your self interest because it requires to have a higher essence than the individual.
A idea may scare you because it is not on your self interest and doesnt give you power, its as simple as that.
A spook is almost always a moral idea that tries to block you from achieving the goals you desire because it is on your mind telling you that its "objectively wrong" to break it so. Also despite the spooks not being on your self interest by defenition that doesnt mean that your self interest cant allign with them. A spook only really becomes one when you are no longer conscious of it. And so the conscious egoist ackowledges this and sees he can easily dispose it when its no longer in his self interest, thus never creating boundaries. Thats when you know that make the idea your property and not the reverse.

Anyway, this thread is ~80% cringy guys making it out that spooks and "overcoming" spooks is some self improvement shit like nofap.

>> No.13382187

>>13379855
Non whites

>> No.13382208

>>13381542
>enthusiasm
just a spook

>> No.13382217

>>13382179
>A spook only really becomes one when you are no longer conscious of it
What about the sub-conscienceness?

>> No.13382253

>>13382217
>What about the sub-conscienceness?
What about it?

>> No.13382306

>>13382253
sorry, i misread your sentence

>> No.13382389
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13382389

I get really angry when someone insults my country.
What to do, /lit/? How do I stop acting if I were my nationality?

>> No.13382416

>>13382208
that's what I said

>> No.13382534

>>13382389
Next time you take a shit use your nations flag to wipe your ass.

>> No.13382552

>>13382389
Just pay attention to it when it happens. Slow down and observe the process. The basics of it seem to be mere identification, so idk try to remember what you actually are, what your condition life really is. As far as Stirner goes, he has a bit about the nationality/ethnicity/culture/language etc being a property of you,I can't seem to find the passage though. The gist of it is: take it for what it is authentically and enjoy it as such.

>>13380038
A fixed idea. Think of it simply as an interloper, you can engage with A, but then B will manifest, and your actual reaction to A is mediated by B, but B creates a fictitious reference which alters the initial sincere affect, in a way, enslaving your faculties to itself. There is more to it in and outside of the book.

>>13379876
Make plans and schedules and try to follow through them, keep it simple, notice how yoou behave, pay attention.

>>13380832
If its not too fucked up in the sense of abnormal neurology, try eating healthy and exercising. You do not have to even take it too far, just a daily routine of even 20 minutes is enough to alter your body chemistry after a while and serve as a bootstrap for advancement.

>>13381117
Yeah, that's a tough one, hard to accept really.

>>13381151
Try noting how much of it is just mimetic desire, ask yourself what you really want and focus on that, its easy to mistake the trappings of whatever desire for the actual condition of it. To put it like this: Think about the power you need to have to gain a thing, not the thing itself, concern yourself with your own development.

Well, good luck boys, the world is a hard place huh.

>> No.13382621

bump.
you guys could help us get rid of useless spooks.

>> No.13382717

>>13382621
no we can´t, thats just a spook

>> No.13383054

>>13380504
Won't work. Socialists and communists love to waste everyone's time.

>> No.13383734

>>13379855
Biggest spook: That I have to prove my worth, that I have yet to deserve my right to exist, that I'm not enough, the things I do are not enough and the fear of never being able (and the thought of having to) amount to anything (even though I attained a prestigious degree, am honestly good at almost every intellectual task I take on). In short: existential shame.

What I do against it: I instinctively applied methods of cognitive behavioural therapy (only later I diagnosed myself and found out about CBT) , stopped taking responsibility for the bloodsuckers in my vicinity, stopped working in the prestigious career I hated but felt like having to do, started going to university again to study whatever the fuck I wanted, stopped the relationships I had that were based on guilt and inner compulsion, tried to free myself through an egoist outlook, but it's still not enough (haha) since every now and then the spooky thought comes back and makes me feel bad about myself and my lifestyle.

>> No.13383740

>>13380683
Stirner is dead* And that's a good thing, he is a brainlet.

>> No.13383764

>>13380504

>>union of egoists

This is why you're retarded.

>> No.13383773

>>13380519
>>13383764
You should actually read Stirner.

>> No.13383779

>>13380832
Isolation/vacation itself will NOT help, you'll take the depression with you. Exercise (even simple things like using the bicycle daily is ok) and forbid yourself of certain thoughts (STOP pondering, stop thinking about your obligations, that you are a failure etc.). You have to stop these thoughts of yours! Do things you've never done before, preferably activities that happen in groups and that are enjoyable per se (even if you're unable to feel joy or even anything right now - it doesn't matter): maybe a climbing course, or a swimming course, or jogging or go to the theatre or to arthouse cinema... Experiment on yourself by treating yourself with sensual experiences (but NO drugs), see if that makes you feel anything: like buying those fucking expensive Italian chocolate bars that are 1/4 the size of normal one. Try the shit those snubs brag about. You shall see most of it tastes like shit (not the italian chocolate though), but it has a certain appeal. Also, wake up early and spend some time in the sunlight (actual light therapy works with artificial light of certain wavelengths).


If these things won't help, go to a therapist that does cognitive behavioural therapy. Do not go to people who offer psychoanalysis or depth psychology or other shit, it won't work, but CBT can (in moderate depression it's as effective as proper medication). Taking medication is ok as well, as long as the diagnosis is right and you take the correct stuff (bupropione and aripiprazole for example are good pills if the diagnosis is indeed depression itself [ICD-10 F32.2], not something that makes a "depressive syndrome" [various other things like e.g. decompensation of personality disorder can cause symptoms that almost look identical to those of depression])

>> No.13384254

>>13381117
You're someones fetish, remember that.