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13434043 No.13434043[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

dont kill yourself
kill your self

>> No.13434049

>>13434043
based OP

>> No.13434050

>>13434043
Enlighten us anon

>> No.13434060

>>13434043
Why shouldn't I
>5'1"
>4.5" penis (erect)
>Ugly face
>No social skills
>Stupid
>Worthless
I don't see any reason not to do it. I'm worthless and nobody wants me around anyways

>> No.13434062
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13434062

>>13434043

>> No.13434085

>>13434060
I want you around, Anon.

>> No.13434091

>>13434062
Not criticizing you because all the power to you if you have a solid practice going, but do you ever listen to or read any monastics other than Pannobhassa Bhikkhu? Do you read any primary Buddhist texts? I'm genuinely curious.

>> No.13434103

>>13434060
Transition you idiot. God would have given you a bigger penis if he wanted you to be a man.

>> No.13434108

>>13434091
back to rebbit
>>13434103
back to discord

>> No.13434112

>>13434103
What's the point of him transitioning if he is ugly

>> No.13434120

>>13434062
>the whole point of spirituality is to be happy and feel gud
so this is the power of esoteric burgerism

>> No.13434121

>>13434085
But, you're just some Anon. Why should I care.
>>13434103
No, I'm fine being a man, and I don't want to become even more of an outcast in my family

>> No.13434129

>>13434112
Also this

>> No.13434130

>>13434108
I fucking hate trannies. I just know enough of them to recognize the type by the way they describe themselves.
>>13434112
They'll either be happier after doing it or it'll lead to them killing themselves anyway. It's either a win or they're back where they started lmao

>> No.13434132

>>13434060
You know very well only you can answer this.

>> No.13434133

>>13434085
Enlighten us anon

>> No.13434134

>>13434130
>>13434129
>>13434121
Actually why the fuck am I being such a dick. I need to stop posting and do my goddamn homework. I'm sorry.

>> No.13434144

>>13434108
reddit thinks Buddhism is meditating 10m a day to Sam Harris' app so you can be more productive at work and make more money for your boss

>> No.13434145

>>13434060
Think of something you want and go after it with a plan. Listen very closely when I type this
>4chan can be used to become a specialist in every major field of work, if you use it properly. You just gotta search.

>> No.13434149

>>13434043
bet op thinks hes big brain

>> No.13434155

>>13434043
Dumb advice. You will never get rid of your self while you are still alive.

>> No.13434156

>>13434145
>Individualists actually believe this
>individualists actually believe the world revolves around them

>> No.13434160

>>13434134
Cringe

>> No.13434161
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13434161

It's been years since any aspect of my life has improved in any significant or even insignificant manner. All I've done is stagnated and wasted my life. I regret everything. I can count the number of good decisions I've made on one hand. I've achieved nothing. I have no career, no romance, no talent, no where to live come September.

>> No.13434164

>>13434156
If you are not your own God then you are a cuck.

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>>13434161
based despair poster

>> No.13434181

>>13434164
*snap*

>> No.13434193

>>13434181
*brap*

>> No.13434205

>>13434043
If the goal of existence is annihilation why is suicide worse? I guess if you believe in reincarnation and think life is suffering then yeah suicide is bad, but not because its the end of life; rather because its the continuation of it?

>> No.13434213

>>13434043
¿How do you permanently “kill the self”

>> No.13434227

>>13434060
Yeah that sounds pretty awful.

>> No.13434233

>>13434227
Thanks

>> No.13434238

>>13434043
That's the only way I can see it ending.

>> No.13434270

>>13434161
Same but I live with my mummy and daddy.

>> No.13434276

>>13434060
appearance is all a smokescreen

>> No.13434292

>>13434164
the Old Gods died of laughter after seeing your god

>> No.13434303

>>13434270
Well done, anon. I may as well come September 1st.

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>>13434161

>> No.13434354

>>13434164
You are not it's nice to know the truth

>> No.13434378

>>13434276
A smokescreen that people care about immensely

>> No.13434382

>>13434062
Being happy is not the goal of buddhism. If you want to be happy take some xanax

>> No.13434392

Philosophical suicide in the only way to true transcendence.

>> No.13434397

>>13434378
yeah well it doesnt last that long. I'm good looking, my impression is great for about a minute until they start talking to me and realize im an incel.

>> No.13434414

>>13434392
this
the only way to kill your self is to astral project and insult God

>> No.13434446

>>13434043
based

>> No.13434527
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>>13434060
>5'1"
>4.5" penis (erect)
>Ugly face
can't change that. You can either complain or accept, you chose to complain.
>No social skills
>Stupid
those you can change, and you should work on it.
>Worthless
that's an opinion, worse yet, your opinion, also can be changed.

>> No.13434545

>>13434043
2deep4me

>> No.13434591

>>13434060
life is a struggle anon, those who struggle the most are better than those who do not engage in the fight at all
you were dealt a shit hand but you can learn to play the game better than those who got better cards and will breeze through this life unknowingly

>> No.13434593

>>13434043
What's the difference?

>> No.13434808

>>13434545
reddit

>> No.13434815

>>13434593
Yourself is you, your self is a bit harder to define (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self)) but it’s basically the idea of you.

>> No.13434821

>>13434060
play video games, read. take it easy anon

>> No.13434925

>>13434145
How can I do this? I suck with archives

>> No.13434943

>>13434060
You can still work, dedicate your time to building up some capital and giving it to someone you care about. Imagine if you spent your life saving up to buy a house for someone who doesn't own one, much younger than you who could put it to good use like raising a family in it. You'd be a hero then.

>> No.13434946

>>13434060
Because I love you anon. I 100% mean this. You are deserving and worthy of love, and I love you.

>> No.13434958

Commit suicide
You have to commit suicide. Seriously.
Suicide is like a woman, one you can’t just have a casual fling with. You think you’re just flirting with it a little, then WHOOOMP. She’s got ya. You’re stuck with her. For life. No wait, longer.

>> No.13434983

>>13434958
Butterfly, you are an evil force in this universe. I feel sorry for you, and hope that you find redemption at some point in the future.

>> No.13434987

>>13434958
I will find you and I will kill you, you fucking faggot. You ruin every single thread. I will track you down and I will kill you. You genuinely deserve to be killed and I will be the one to do it.

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13435027

>>13434983
>Dissuading people from suicide with dark humor
You Christian posters need to go back to your board on that other site.

>>13434987
>Ruins thread
>Blames me

>> No.13435034

>>13434958
Thank you.

>> No.13435042

>>13435027
>>13435034
It's sad that you feel the need to samefag, butterfly.

>> No.13435060
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>>13435042
I don’t do that sort of thing. That’s Anon’s bag

>> No.13435065

Is there any universal reason not to kill yourself? I don't like being sad and lonely. I won't accomplish anything if I live to be 100, so why bother?

>> No.13435071 [DELETED] 

>>13435060
What an epic maymay!! XD

>> No.13435072

>>13435065
You have already accomplished more than you acknowledge, anon. Thank you for being you.

>> No.13435085

>>13435072
I sit in a room, watch movies, and spend my parents' money all day. There is no accomplishment here. There is nothing of value.

>> No.13435093 [DELETED] 

>>13435065
Do what you can now that your limbs work.

Old and gray; take up track and sky diving, hunt ISIS or someshit

>> No.13435094

>>13435065
>I won't accomplish anything if I live to be 100
Why not? You can if you want to

>> No.13435100

>>13435094
I don't want to. There's no point.

>> No.13435101

>>13435065
Do what you can now that your limbs work.

Old and gray; take up crack and sky diving, hunt ISIS or someshit

>> No.13435104

>>13435085
Ask you parents what they think.

>> No.13435120

>>13435104
They don't.

>> No.13435133

>>13435065
either we are here to improve our souls or to pay for a crime, killing yourself will just make things worse

>> No.13435136

>>13435120
I'm sorry, let me be more specific. Ask them, verbatim, "Mom, Dad, I think that I am a useless waste of resources. Do you think this is true? And if you do, should I kill myself?"

If they say yes, then fine, go ahead and do it. But at least do them the dignity of asking them that point blank and verbatim, so that they don't need to live with decades of pain wondering 'why did anon do it; could I have done something differently?'

>> No.13435140

>>13435133
Where do you get that information from?

>> No.13435143

>>13435100
Why do you watch movies, and what do you spend their money on?

>> No.13435149

This whole idea of "get over you'e ego and you'll be happy, man" never made that much sense to me. The ego is an intrinsic aspect of the biological will as Schopenhauer understood it. An ego emerges from the very imperatives of individual survival. Those are cemented into the mind through genetic and neurological rules.

Only by going contrary to nature in a literal sense can the ego said be to quelled, but when truly reduced to its barest embers basic bodily functions begin to shut down. Lose you ego, lose the motive to eat, to sleep, to find things to do with yourself. Even snails or other simple organisms arguably have a rudimentary sense of self, of an ego. That may only consist of a crude distinction between the boundary of their skin/outer surface and the rest of the world.

So long as you're alive and conscious there is an ego. You may be able to restrain, cultivate, balance it, but it's not going anywhere. Unless you're in a vegetative state, but even then, horrifyingly, the self concept may still persist.

>> No.13435153

>>13435143
They're effortless escapism.
Food, rent, alcohol.

>> No.13435165

>>13435140
gnosticism
http://gnosis.org/library/strom3.htm
chapter III

>> No.13435194

>>13434943
based and compassion-pilled

>> No.13435386

>>13434060
i love you too

>> No.13435403
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>>13434043

"and you?
when will you begin
that long journey
into yourself?"

>> No.13435497

>>13434060
Here's a story for you.
It's true, and I've posted it a few times, I don't give a fuck if you think it's pasta.

>my best friend from high school has an argument with her boyfriend
>takes a bunch of pills to kill herself
>doesn't
>at least not right away
>lingers in a coma for 20+ days
>then dies

>fast forward a few months to a few days before Christmas
>friend's mother can't bear living through the holidays without her daughter
>kills herself
>family of four is reduced to a absolutely crushed and devastated father and his shell-shocked son

>> No.13435777

>>13435497
The obvious solution here is for them to kill themselves as well, so your point is kind of moot

>> No.13435794

>>13435497
If the biggest consolation you have for someone who's suicidal is "you'll hurt someone else's feelings" then I don't know what to say except I hope they come for bugmen like you first

>> No.13435812

>>13435777
4 edgy 8 me

>> No.13435821

>>13435794
Naw, that's not the point at all.
Let me explain it to you:
people who kill themselves mostly kill themselves for escape*, but their escape ends up being a cruel punishment to the people they loved, sometimes a fatal one.

Would OP kill himself is he knew that his death would cause the death of someone he loved?

*of course it's not escape at all.
when you escape something you leave the confinement and go somewhere else. when you kill yourself you only ensure that the confinement is all you'll ever know. death is not the next thing, it's just no thing. zero. the end.
unless you're religious, in which case you'd have to check your religion but I doubt many of them reward your suicide with a trip to heaven

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>>13435821
>Would OP kill himself is he knew that his death would cause the death of someone he loved?

>> No.13435836

>>13435821
Different anon but an emotional hostage situation doesn't seem like a good way to resolve a wish for death.
Subconsciously he could even built-up resentment against those who prevent him to end his suffering.
The will to live must come from the inside. Otherwise it's worthless

>> No.13435840

>>13434156
>the world revolves around them
wtf does that even mean

>> No.13435842

>>13435812
He’s a faggot, but you’re a redditer.

>> No.13435846

>>13435149
It's more like "get over your ego and (((we))) will be happy"

>> No.13435856

>>13435497
Why the fuck would this matter? If the suicidal person dies, it's not like he's going to give a shit what happens to his family anymore. Most people are just worthless cogs in the machine anyway and can easily be replaced.

>> No.13435875

>>13434060
Haha manlet

>> No.13435890

based and green pilled.

>> No.13435905

>>13434043
i always write kys to mean the second, but brainlet think it is the first

>> No.13435914

>>13434213


I have heard that on one occasion the Blessed One was staying near Savatthi in Jeta's Grove, Anathapindika's monastery. Then Ven. Ananda went to the Blessed One and on arrival, having bowed down to him, sat to one side. As he was sitting there he said to the Blessed One: "What is the purpose of skillful virtues? What is their reward?"

"Skillful virtues have freedom from remorse as their purpose, Ananda, and freedom from remorse as their reward."

"And what is the purpose of freedom from remorse? What is its reward?"

"Freedom from remorse has joy as its purpose, joy as its reward."

"And what is the purpose of joy? What is its reward?"

"Joy has rapture as its purpose, rapture as its reward."

"And what is the purpose of rapture? What is its reward?"

"Rapture has serenity as its purpose, serenity as its reward."

"And what is the purpose of serenity? What is its reward?"

"Serenity has pleasure as its purpose, pleasure as its reward."

"And what is the purpose of pleasure? What is its reward?"

"Pleasure has concentration as its purpose, concentration as its reward."

"And what is the purpose of concentration? What is its reward?"

"Concentration has knowledge & vision of things as they actually are as its purpose, knowledge & vision of things as they actually are as its reward."

"And what is the purpose of knowledge & vision of things as they actually are? What is its reward?"

"Knowledge & vision of things as they actually are has disenchantment as its purpose, disenchantment as its reward."

"And what is the purpose of disenchantment? What is its reward?"

"Disenchantment has dispassion as its purpose, dispassion as its reward."

"And what is the purpose of dispassion? What is its reward?"

"Dispassion has knowledge & vision of release as its purpose, knowledge & vision of release as its reward.

"Thus in this way, Ananda, skillful virtues have freedom from remorse as their purpose, freedom from remorse as their reward. Freedom from remorse has joy as its purpose, joy as its reward. Joy has rapture as its purpose, rapture as its reward. Rapture has serenity as its purpose, serenity as its reward. Serenity has pleasure as its purpose, pleasure as its reward. Pleasure has concentration as its purpose, concentration as its reward. Concentration has knowledge & vision of things as they actually are as its purpose, knowledge & vision of things as they actually are as its reward. Knowledge & vision of things as they actually are has disenchantment as its purpose, disenchantment as its reward. Disenchantment has dispassion as its purpose, dispassion as its reward. Dispassion has knowledge & vision of release as its purpose, knowledge & vision of release as its reward.

"In this way, Ananda, skillful virtues lead step-by-step to the consummation of arahantship."

>> No.13435919

>>13434060
get to the core of who you are as a person before making life ending decisions due to vanity,

get out of these societally conditioned thinking patterns. actively search for some meaning to this life before committing to such a permanent decision. actual meaning that fulfills you and that might be enough to, perhaps, sustain you along the bleak road of life.

>> No.13435956

>>13434043
>>13434060
Here's my life:

>26 khhv
>phimosis and ipersensitivity which caused a literal sexual trauma
>not interacted properly with the opposite sex since highschool
>chad-faced but 5'5 manlet and severe social anxiety
>wear special shoes to feel more at ease with others but this fucked up my knees
>kidneys sindrome since 3, I take pills every twelve hours
>formerly a vanilla type but developed porn addiction since 18 as a form of escapism
>very tomboysh lesbian sister once confessed to you she "feels like a trans" and you hope she will not transition in the future
>she forced you and parents to live with her jobless girlfriend for 8 years to this day
>maybe talented artist and musician but no sight of a concrete future
>living in isolation and solitude in my room, never going out except for uni classes and exams lately
>contemplating each day suicide as an obvious exit
>only real thing that keeps me going on is music

>> No.13436050
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13436050

https://www.academia.edu/24478959/The_structure_of_the_Sanskrit_Dirgha-agama_from_Gilgit_vis-a-vis_the_Pali_Digha-nikaya

The structure of the Sanskrit Dirgha-agama from Gilgit vis-a-vis the Pali Digha-nikaya
2014
Roderick S Bucknell

>> No.13436122

>>13436050
i will read that today

>> No.13436137

>>13434060
honestly, when i read shit like this, the idea of some kind of privilege theory really starts to make sense to me. i cant avoid feeling intense guilt over having been born with such a genetic boost over other people. yet no one ever talks about this feeling.

do other people feel this kind of guilt and just refuse to talk about it, or are most people actually apathetic to the suffering of people who are essentially locked out of "the good life" under capitalism by their unchangeable genetic traits?

i don't really know what to say to you man, besides that i wish things were arranged differently so that people had more empathy towards guys in situations like yours, and that maybe things will change socially to make your life better within your lifetime. besides that, one of the major motivations for not killing yourself throughout history was that you might go to hell, which is still a real possibility and imo an underrated deterrent when everything else fails

>> No.13436145

>>13435956
You have a bitch easy life, go fuck 10 babies, have a baby orgy

here's my life
>fo nothing but get into politics for a couple years
>choose wrong side
>corporation or government thinks you should be mindread
>everyone is fine w this
>sexual perversion starts coming out and interracial sex slavery and child molestation becomes prominent
>everyone thinks this is fine
>I'm entirely against it but either way it literally came from me
>literally everyone hates you anyways
>literally all family hates u
>I want to commit suicide and ppl hate that u didn't because they want to commit an orgy on ur grave and call u a virgin and laugh for not having sex even tho u have more sex than them and don't find baby fucking to be virtuous

All this being said literally NOBODY finds this evil

>> No.13436159

>>13436145
Nice larping retard, this makes no sense.

>> No.13436160

>>13434145
this, but unironically

>> No.13436177

>>13436145
what side? what are you to blame for? what is your disorder?

>> No.13436194

>>13436145
If I had to take a guess: "Ukip politician that is hated by his liberal family."

>> No.13436200

>>13436159
>>13436177
>>13436194
All these ppl are sexual perverts who want to fuck babies and pretend they're not losing their freedoms, they're in denial

>> No.13436205

>>13436200
Can you form actual sentences with structure?
You sound like Alex Jones and completely disjointed.

>> No.13436207

>>13436205
I have obliterated people who held master degrees in philosophy using nothing but information garnered from pop-sci books.

I know the legit science, it's just funny watching them choke on the babyfood version.

I'd have to say the crowning moment was when this thomist "scholar" was arguing for the immateriality of the mind and when I asked if he knew what mitochondria or synaptic clefts were he had no clue.

>> No.13436208

>>13436205
Keep lying faggot, your mind is being read by some corporation or government to turn you into a sex appeased pervert and you're perfectly fine with it

>> No.13436210

>>13436207
Are u retarded, go fuck babies and drain your brain and freedom, you're a useless pseud anyways

>> No.13436212

>>13436207
>self-boasting, reddit spacing, pop,sci
Ahh yes ebin bait. But please do that somewhere else. We are trying to help a fren who is feeling down.

>> No.13436215

>>13436212
Tell me where the fuck my thoughts are being projected and tell ur government

>> No.13436251

http://elibrary.ibc.ac.th/files/private/How%20Buddhism%20Began_0.pdf


How Buddhism Began
The Conditioned Genesis of the Early Teachings
Richard F. Gombrich


that's a good start

>> No.13436286

>>13434085
Are you some kind of sadist?

>> No.13436448

>>13436207
>I'd have to say the crowning moment was when this thomist "scholar" was arguing for the immateriality of the mind and when I asked if he knew what mitochondria or synaptic clefts were he had no clue.
siri, what is "begging the question"?

>> No.13436580

>>13434043
question is
HOW

>> No.13436631

>>13435497
>>13435821

This is awful. If anyone needed further proof that family is a categorically evil Demiurgic nightmare...

>> No.13436672

>>13435956
>He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.

>> No.13436697

>>13434156
Where does your perception of the world, which is the only version you have access to, reside anon-kun?

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>>13434060
Yeah you received a pretty bad deal and life was very unfair to you but idk, limiting myself here to practical advice only, I feel that if you work really hard and develop a talent all of those traits combined can weirdly project a positive image. Kind of like Bobby Lee is funny in an unique and endearing way most people can't be, or how Mishima was interesting like few people in history managed to.

If I were you I'd get into the arts immediately. You were born unique and only an unique path will kind of make sense. A 5'1" ugly guy goes up on stage to play his music, read part of his book, read for a character or do stand-up and I'm already paying attention like I wouldn't pay attention to other people. I think that if you play your cards right you can use your appearance to immediately trigger empathy and admiration in people, and then life will be... not easy, but a looot easier. Then if you manage to make something work you get a tall black gf and have normal kids.

>> No.13436734

>>13436697
The perception lies outside you, you have the ability to access that perception but the perception doesn't come from you. If it purely did then our logic would change dramatically after being high on acid, yet it always returns to a normal that we all share, queer

>> No.13436784

>>13436734
>a normal that we all share
Wow, Jung had it wrong all along. It's not the unconscious that's collective!

>> No.13436849

>>13434060
Funnel that alienation into art. Even if it's bad art, just get it out of your system.

>> No.13436902

>>13435149
It's really not so much about killing it. But most people live lives completely dominated by their ego, by the voice in their head, and think the ego is who they are. This is false, it is but one tool among many and societies belief that is all is very unhealthy. Learning how to let thoughts go and notice the spaces between thoughts in your head is the first step, you'll realize that those thoughts aren't you, you are actually the space that those thoughts occur in. Once you notice this the spaces can become bigger and in those spaces you learn to appreciate the moment, the joy in simply feeling alive, as well as learn how to change perspective on things easily and also allow bigger and better ideas to come to you through those spaces.

>> No.13436980

>>13436207
Hahahaha

>> No.13436982

>>13435136
Cringe.

>> No.13436987

>>13436631
dilate

>> No.13436991

>>13436631
That's just how it is. We're trapped and cucked and fucked but killing yourself is no escape and just makes things worse. The only solution is accepting our seemingly arbitrary situation and suffering, that's noble and redeeming. Lashing out or killing yourself because of muh suffering and depression is just selfish arrogance and kind of makes your demiurgic worldview a self-fulfilling prophecy. You're either in love and with God, open and giving, or you're shut-up and inward and alone, there's no overlap. Those ways of being are like two spheres completely separate from one another, they both only make sense from within themselves but only one of them is true

>> No.13437035

>>13434161
I feel you anon. My entire life has been mistake after mistake. Now I'm living with no future, and to be quite honest I'm fine with that. I'm just here to experience the few years I've got left before people get sick of me, or I get sick of myself, and I decide to feed myself a bullet breakfast.

>> No.13437047

>>13436991

All these statements are CATEGORICALLY wrong.

>> No.13437048

>>13434527
There are literally people in this world who are so incredibly stupid that they cannot learn. I grew up with someone like this. She was in the same classes as me, she took the same tests, and yet she still couldn't grasp anything she learned. For some people learning is a staircase, or a ladder, that you have to climb. For other people it's a brick wall. For whatever reason there are people in this world who are cursed with the inability to crystalize knowledge, and also the inability to adapt to new situations.

>> No.13437161

>>13437048
Not the anon but I disagree, I don't think that's how they are inherently. It's just a problem with the patterns of thought they've cultivated throughout life, and the fact they're not used to the practice of learning and assimilating information, which is something that should start way before school.

If we could somehow lock that person in a cell as an experiment and give her something different to learn everyday, covering everything from mathematical thinking to creative problem-solving, she'd have what would seem like a completely different brain in six months. That anon has 1. the self-awareness that he's stupid and 2. the desire to change that, so he can find his path towards change.

>> No.13437186

>>13436784
You're right it's not the unconscious that's collective it's the objective universe

>> No.13437191

>>13437048
i confirm this.

>> No.13437210

>>13434527
>he isn't a good judge of his own worth

>> No.13437222

>>13436991
> Those ways of being are like two spheres completely separate from one another,
wrong
rebus in modus
you CAN find the right way

>> No.13437229

>>13437161
This is my first time meeting a /lit/let who can't into science and biological limitations

>It's just a problem with the patterns of thought they've cultivated throughout life, and the fact they're not used to the practice of learning and assimilating information
this is as true for a stupid person as it is for a monkey
there is a difference between ignorance and stupidity

>> No.13437279

>>13437229
>This is my first time meeting a /lit/let who can't into science and biological limitations
'Biological limitations' don't imply the impossibility of change: none of us here can go to the gym and become elite powerlifters, but every single of us can go there and by systematically forcing our bodies to adapt to new tasks become stronger than we are now. Our entire bodies contains adaptive mechanisms like that and our brains are not different. I'm not a neurologist, but I've heard several people from the area explain that even physical changes occur in our brains from regular activities as trivial as juggling and meditation, so the patterns of though we practice on a daily basis definitely can influence intelligence. And those are cultivated by life experience, not biology.

And to assume that someone who is dumb just happens to be at the zenith of a predefined biological potential is a very retarded assumption even as a reflexive one - go to people studying pedagogy and the psychology of education, who are regularly able to link improvements in academic performance to all types of factors from the teaching process to the environment where the learning takes place and tell them "dude what if people are just dumb lmao". The hunch about intelligence you had based on a stupid person you saw is not "science".

>> No.13437324

>>13437279
different anon here; i agree with you, since your point is accurate. yet it is also missinformed, or better yet, incomplete. you are looking at this subject from a dichotomical perspective (is or isnt, black or white). while it is true that there is almost undefinable potential within us, the actualization or materializaton of such potential often requires more than just will. most people that share their succesful life story, often refer to the same bias you are addressing. they often think that what ever drove them to such success, came intrinsicaly and most importantly from within, from their own will. again, i dont disagree with that claim, i do belive that will plays an important part, but i also can think that often, even our own will does not depend solely on ourselves.
we are a curious species, our brain and most of our capacity to understand and even perceive the world, is a result of an articulated effort of inner and outer elements, some transitional, some constant; some actually "perceivable", others we have no clue as how to they affect us but probably do.
so again, i do understand the point you are making, but the other anon is only (imo) pointing out this situation.
also, you might consider that will is not a single -point phenonmena, it has degrees (more will / less will, etc). so you can asume that, since we are so varied as a species, the might be someone out there that has such little embeded will within, that it might not be enough to make the significant changes you point out are necesary to break through their current life situation.

>> No.13437327

>>13434145
stockholm syndrome

>> No.13437427
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13437427

>>13437279
>to assume that someone who is dumb just happens to be at the zenith of a predefined biological potential is a very retarded assumption
If someone goes through the same schooling and has basically the same enviroment when growing up as me (not malnutritioned, isolated from normal variables), but is more stupid than me, i will assume that his potential is lower than mine

if i meet him 10 years later and he is the same, i am fair to assume he has reached the zenith of his development
you bring up a lot of variables that can affect development, but it is important to identify the most important ones, the ones who create the ceiling

fact is stupid people most likely have been exposed to these variables just as you have (it is hard not too if you are raised in norm conditions) and the only reason they haven't developed more than they have is because of inherent limitation.

Your assumption that it is a lack of exposure to these postive variables that causes stupidity is a further reach (exept in freak cases,like locked in basement tier stuff) than that they indeed have been exposed to these positive influences and have progressed thanks to them... all the way up to their natural limitations (which are in turn decided by genetics).

>>13437324
yupp survivorship bias is a bitch
>if i can, you can too!
>because life is fair!
>r-right?

>>13435836
>The will to live must come from the inside.
it can only come from the inside, any and all sightings of the will to live in the outside world is a missatribution and confusion. That thing that you think gives your life meaning is actually just a manifestation and projection of your inner will to live (a means to an end).
its all a means to an end

>> No.13437449

>>13436137
He's five one so it's highly unlikely I would ever looking low enough to register his existence.

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13437463

>>13434043
You will regret both

>> No.13437474

>>13434145
>>4chan can be used to become a specialist in every major field of work, if you use it properly. You just gotta search.
>He thinks le epic screencaps are good sources of information
oh nononononno

>> No.13437511

>>13437474
Look at this unbeliever, just head on over to /biz/ and you will be a pro daytrader in notime. You can listen to me because i lost all my money listening to people online. Or go to /r9k/ and become proficient in social interactions.

>>13437427
>natural limitations
also on this topic, please remember that you are a mortal human
some have stronger will and higher aspirations than what they can actually accomplish
we call them delusional faggots and they are sad mofos, nemesis gives them hard beatings on regular but they never learn thanks to fortuna their sadistic enabler

beware of hybris
godspeed everyone and dont kys

>> No.13437554

there is nothing to kill when it doesn't exist in the first place

>> No.13437574

>>13434527
Stupid or ugly are not welcome to society since communication and visual are like everything. Unless you are rich

>> No.13437668

>>13434043
based

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>>13434043
I don't feel like making a new thread for this so I'm posting it here

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>>13437868

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>>13437876

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13437887

>>13437882
fin

>> No.13438050

>>13437868
>>13437876
>>13437882
>>13437887
tl;dr

>> No.13438058

>>13434103
so basically just doublethink lol,
>only men with big peni can be considered man
>women are men
>men are women

>> No.13438084

>>13438050
the irony is strong in this one

>> No.13438943

>>13434060
why do people want to kill themselves over body height and penis size
can't help but feel it's mostly a plot for attention even when they have good relationships with people and make good living

>> No.13439080

>>13438943
>can't help but feel it's mostly a plot for attention even when they have good relationships with people and make good living
I can't have either of those things because height limits your career success and your face limits both your career and social success. Anything to the contrary is merely an outlier and a fluke in spite of the rule