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13465760 No.13465760 [Reply] [Original]

Who was in the wrong here?

>> No.13465885

Hegel was the bigger man for sure.
>Despite their differences and the arrogant request to schedule lectures at the same time as his own, Hegel still voted to accept Schopenhauer to the university.

>> No.13465904

>>13465760
Schopenhauer made stunning mistakes in comparison to Hegel, but Hegel was also a more traditional philosopher. It's an easy win for Hegel.

>> No.13465929

>>13465904
what mistakes for example?

>> No.13466023

>>13465760
Hegel - Reddit
Schopenhauer - 4chan
Stirner - 9gag

>> No.13466068

>>13466023
Hegel - Sadler
Schopenhauer - r/incels

>> No.13466121
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13466121

>>13466023

>> No.13466265

>>13466023
Hegel - Postgrad
Schopenhauer - Undergrad
Stirner - Highschool

>> No.13466266

>>13466121
>le cross-eyed retard face

>> No.13466298

>>13466121
Will you ever fuck off?

>> No.13466323

>>13466023
Accurate

>>13466121
>>13466068

Retard

>> No.13466330
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13466330

>>13465760

Reminder

>> No.13466357

Schopenhauer was super bitter. It's hard to even take him seriously about the things he said about Hegel.

>> No.13466361

At least Hegel didn't make the presumption's about things outside of our reality

>> No.13466389

>>13466357
Why was Schopenhauer so bitter about Hegel?

>> No.13466396

>>13466330
Respecting Hume is always a good sign

>> No.13466409

>>13466389
Because he was an extremely acerbic person. Imagine Wittgenstein twice as autistic and half as well-rounded, that's the sort of arrogance that old man Schopenhauer had.

>> No.13467315

>>13465760
i like schope but hegel was much more important and influential

>> No.13467335

The only people who like Hegel are pseuds. .

>> No.13467487
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13467487

Schopenhauer jealousy was an example of slave morality even if he was right about Hegel (he wasn't though)

>> No.13467490

>>13467335
No such thing as a pseud cope'nhauer

>> No.13467495

>>13467490
pseud cope'nharder

>> No.13467573

>>13466023
Very true.

>> No.13467612

>>13465760
Why are you comparing Count Olaf to Hegel?

>> No.13468022

>>13466409
more like half as autistic and twice as well rounded

>> No.13468666
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13468666

>tears hegel apart with superior dialectic
>pinpoints schopenhauer as a representative of the merely "interesting" and momentary, who can't take the leap to becoming an ascetic himself
nothin personnel.....

>> No.13468676

>>13468666
le superstitious be yourself man

>> No.13468693

>>13467335
This cannot be overstated.

>> No.13468696
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13468696

>>13468676
*eats your attack on faith*
>I am the better pleased with the method of reasoning here delivered, as I think it may serve to confound those dangerous friends or disguised enemies to the Christian Religion, who have undertaken to defend it by the principles of human reason. Our most holy religion is founded on Faith, not on reason; and it is a sure method of exposing it to put it to such a trial as it is, by no means, fitted to endure.

>> No.13468703

>>13468666
>tears hegel apart
Oh that's cute. Checked btw

>> No.13468722

>>13466023
Stirner realized Hegel was right but applied it at an individual level rather than Hegel's super collective

>> No.13468993

>>13468666
>God is not real, but let's pretend it is

>> No.13469453

>>13468696

There is no such thing as human reason, only Reason, which is implicitly Divine.

>> No.13469469

hegel is a faggot

>> No.13469473

>>13469469
Woah 69 bro, you must be so cool

>> No.13470009
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13470009

>>13469453
*chomps your capital letters away*
*commits the remainder to the flames*

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>>13468993
Define real.

>> No.13470167

>>13465760
Who cares about Schopenhauer?

>>13466330
Wow, that quote is pure cringe. Anglos can't even into philosophy.

>> No.13470174

>>13466023
What abouth Kierkegaard?

>> No.13470237

>>13468993
God is not thingly, yes

>> No.13470239

>>13470167
Hume wasn't an ang*o thank God, he was a proud Celtic Scot

>> No.13470412

Schopenhauer was right to call Hegel an obscurantist and a charlatan but he was wrong to use those epithets as reproaches. As philosophy had become more complicated it had started to become absolutely essential to be obscure and a charlatan to achieve success in academia. Imagine if French philosophers of the second half of the 20th century had written clearly and sensibly. No one would have taken them seriously.

>> No.13472260

Schopenhauer shat on Hegel strictly out of envy. Hegel went places other philosophers hadn't, perceiving in the turmoil of history an ordered pattern and developmental process. Schopenhauer didn't like that all the college kids lined up for Hegel's lectures and not his.

>> No.13472286

>>13468666
>reason is worth nothing, everything is subjective
>*proceeds to write thousands of pages worthless if judged by its own criteria*

>> No.13472592

>>13465760
Schopenhauer would've been 100% right if he would have been less serious about it.

>> No.13473297

Which philosopher has the most neologies/jargon per sentence in the history of philosophy?

>> No.13473301

>>13473297
I wonder whether it would be possible to develop an entirely new philosophical language consisting entirely of jargon.

>> No.13473370

>>13470412
Literally, the easiest to read -french philosophers- were the most famous; the obscure ones, as simondon or laruelle, were the least famous.

>> No.13473374

>>13473297
Hegel managed to turn the word "this" into jargon, so purely by density it's gotta be him.

>> No.13473390

>>13473370
Name one post-structuralist (or whatever the fuck D&G were) French philosopher that expressed their ideas with an emphasis on concision.

>> No.13473405

>>13473390
>no emphasis on concision = difficult to read
Really? all the famous french postmodern -d&g, focutault, lyotard, etc- were easy to read. D&G's autism was the only semi-obscure stuff to read at that time.

>> No.13473412

>>13465760
Hegel was a pseud. Some of his claims in PoS describe a metaphysics he never proved, and that is contrary to the Church.

>> No.13473418

>>13473297
Hegel.
You can put Deleuze as candidate, but although he made bunch of neology when Deleze put neology he made whole chapter of it. It's different from Hegel who tries to mix from near beginning.

>> No.13473428

>>13473412
butthurt catholic detected

>> No.13473433

>>13468666
The digits fit the post quite well.

>> No.13473478

>>13465885
>Hegel was the bigger man for sure.
Really? No one else has said it? ... Fine.
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>> No.13473584

>>13468696
Oh look, the fat man from my nightmares

>> No.13473594

>>13470174
Tumblr

>> No.13473749

reminder that Hegel thought history would literally not continue after 19th century Prussia