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>> No.13593386
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13593386

remove kebab.

>> No.13593388
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13593388

Remove carbon

>> No.13593444

>>13593381
>remove ideology
You'd have to remove dishonesty and that can't be done.

>> No.13593557

>>13593444
elaborate

>> No.13593585

>>13593557
historical materialism and french psychoanalysis are retarded lies.

>> No.13593587

>>13593381
>In the more sophisticated versions of the critics of ideology—that developed by the Frankfurt School, for example—it is not just a question of seeing things (that is, social reality) as they 'really are', of throwing away the distorting spectacles of ideology; the main point is to see how the reality itself cannot reproduce itself without this so-called ideological mystification. The mask is not simply hiding the real state of things; the ideological distortion is written into its very essence.

>> No.13593597

>>13593388
Explain this, I haven't been paying attention to the autistic German girl in the pic.

>> No.13594192

>>13593381
based

>> No.13594197

>>13593381
Pure ideology

>> No.13594206

>>13593597
She's on a crusade about climate change and wants to ban fossile fuel altogether
Carbon credits are like indulgences

>> No.13594354

>>13593585
All Continental Philosophy is just Marxist apologetics.

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>>13594354

>> No.13594379
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German describes me in the most profond way as a person and my family like morse code

>> No.13594422

>>13593388
Carbon credits?

>> No.13594427

>remove ideology that is to the right of my own

>> No.13594470
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>>13594427
> he doesnt know what ideology is

>> No.13595426

>>13593386
First post, best post.

>> No.13596453

>>13593381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzXPyCY7jbs

>> No.13597170
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>>13593381
Not possible

>> No.13597267

>>13594427
more like
>i don't like it, therefore it's ideology

>> No.13597275

I remove ideology by becoming a marxist?

>> No.13597287

without ideology we're just gene replicating demon apes, a naked expression of the first mover
ideology is a cope, the mask covering up the animal
critique of ideology is weapon against frameworks that service some people more efficiently in reaching their ultimate goal: replication

>> No.13597288

>>13596453
Truly a man to lead us into a bright future.

>> No.13597500
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>>13593388
>A carbon credit is a generic term for any tradable certificate or permit representing the right to emit one tonne of carbon dioxide or the mass of another greenhouse gas with a carbon dioxide equivalent equivalent to one tonne of carbon dioxide.
>Greenhouse gas emissions are capped and then markets are used to allocate the emissions among the group of regulated sources.

Wait...so her parents bought the rights to emit carbon? So with this system rich people can hoard the right to emit carbon (use fossil fuels)?

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>>13593381
there you go

>> No.13597510

>>13597500
Companies trade carbon credits with each other to be allowed to emit carbon, there is a finite amount of carbon credits.

>> No.13597515

>>13593381
Is Christianity ideology?

>> No.13597522

>>13597500
yes, the idea is if you tax carbon emissions and put that into stopping the damage from carbon emissions we can pollute as much as we want and still feel good about ourselves

>> No.13597524

>>13596453
what does any of that have to do with ideology?

>> No.13597572

>>13597524
Did you even listen to it?
The design of the toilets reflect the philosophical ideas at the very base of society in the three major 19th and 20th century western powers.
The German toilets are designed to make it easier to inspect your poop.

>> No.13597585

>>13597572
i understand that.

What does that have to do with political ideology though? What point is he making other than that different people in different countries think differently?

>> No.13597600

>>13597522
How do you even stop emissions in our current state and not have the entire world come to a halt? Just seems impossible with current tech desu.

>> No.13597608

>>13597600
you don't "stop" them, you move towards investment in sustainable alternatives, but rather than investing in those, the gov't gives them subsidies to the oil industry then taxes them to plant trees

>> No.13597609

>>13597585
I am not quite sure how he thinks. But I assume he relates the practical and functional German mind with nationalism and conservatism and the more aesthetic French style with liberal ideas. If it is not something along those lines then maybe he just likes to talk about toilets while wiping his nose and sweating profusely.

>> No.13597634

>>13597510
>companies
Can people as individuals get these credits?

>>13597608
>you move towards investment in sustainable alternatives, but rather than investing in those, the gov't gives them subsidies to the oil industry then taxes them to plant trees
Isn't not investing sustainable alternatives a bad idea?

>> No.13597658

>>13597170
Damn

>> No.13597670
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>>13593381
“Human reason reduced to its own resources is perfectly worthless, not only for creating but also for preserving any political or religious association, because it only produces disputes, and, to conduct himself well, man needs not problems but beliefs. His cradle should be surrounded by dogmas, and when his reason is awakened, it should find all his opinions ready-made, at least all those relating to his conduct. Nothing is so important to him as prejudices, Let us not take this word in a bad sense. It does not necessarily mean false ideas, but only, in the strict sense of the word, opinions adopted before any examination. Now these sorts of opinions are man’s greatest need, the true elements of his happiness, and the Palladium of empires. Without them, there can be neither worship, nor morality, nor government. There must be a state religion just as there is a state policy; or, rather, religious and political dogmas must be merged and mingled together to form a complete common or national reason strong enough to repress the aberrations of individual reason, which of its nature is the mortal enemy of any association whatever because it produces only divergent opinions.

All known nations have been happy and powerful to the extent that they have more faithfully obeyed this national reason, which is nothing other than the annihilation of individual dogmas and the absolute and general reign of national dogmas, that is to say, of useful prejudices. Let each man call upon his individual reason in the matter of religion, and immediately you will see the birth of an anarchy of belief or the annihilation of religious sovereignty. Likewise, if each man makes himself judge of the principles of government, you will at once see the birth of civil anarchy or the annihilation of political sovereignty. Government is a true religion: it has its dogmas, its mysteries, and its ministers. To annihilate it or submit it to the discussion of each individual is the same thing; it lives only through national reason, that is to say through political faith, which is a creed. Man’s first need is that his nascent reason be curbed under this double yoke, that it be abased and lose itself in the national reason, so that it changes its individual existence into another common existence, just as a river that flows into the ocean always continues to exist in the mass of water, but without a name and without a distinct reality.”

>> No.13597680

>>13597500
>So with this system rich people can hoard the right to emit carbon (use fossil fuels)
Bourgeois greens in action mate. Remember, class always comes first

>> No.13597818
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>>13597287
With ideology, we're demon apes with a purpose; turning everything we touch into a waking nightmare.

But yeah, critique of ideology at least temporarily uncovers the horror beneath the cope.

>> No.13597891

>>13593381
Everything zizek says is ideology

>> No.13598059

>>13597609
Germans are hermeneutic, sniff toilets and poop, inspect shit on slab for inspection. French are revolutionary haste, like guillotine, flush shit out of sight immediately, hole directly below. English are economic, pragmatic middle ground, let it float but do not inspect.

>> No.13598066

>>13598059
*for diseases

>> No.13598072

>>13593381
Wanting to remove ideology, is an ideology.

>> No.13598077

>>13597670
Powerful shit

>> No.13598126
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>>13593388
I wish nothing but ill will towards that little gremlin

>> No.13598177

>>13598126
she's richer and more loved than you'll ever be. Certainly speaks volumes about your character.

>> No.13598290

>>13593388
this reads like a wall of text that would be flashed in an MDE video

>> No.13598328

>>13593381

Can't make me, nanananère.

>> No.13598517

>>13597515
No it's a religion

>> No.13599067

>>13596453
Absolutely based.

>> No.13599422

>>13598290
Is there a way to understand what you mean without watching "MDE?" I refuse to bombard my senses with certain people and that dude is certainly one.

>> No.13599430

>>13593388
this can't be real. or can it?
>while I tell americans to stop eating beef, driving, building homes and using computers
topkek

>> No.13599479

>>13599430
greta is based.

>> No.13599482
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Greta Thurnberg is the perfect example of what zizek thinks is fucking terrible about ideology and yet he wrote favorably about her recently

I'm starting to think sniffman is losing it in his old age

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>> No.13599582

Imagine seethin so hard over an autistic little girl. You fuckin incels, man. Have sex.

>> No.13599615

>>13597670
Man, I need to read Maistre. What's his best stuff?

>> No.13599626

>>13599482
Zizek is a hypocrite at heart like every leftist. All pessimism is only consistent within a manly and reactionary framework. Everything else is cope

>> No.13600022

>>13593557
Whenever people adopt an ideology uncritically they proceed to avoid facts that contradict it, creating cognitive dissonance etc...

>> No.13600820

>>13597680
>Bourgeois
I feel like white upper-middle/class liberals have caused the most damage to left-wing/working-class causes.

>> No.13600840

>>13599430
it's not. the pics are real, but the text isn't.

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13600884

remove scapegoat

>> No.13601319

>>13593386
That was predictable

>> No.13601606

>>13597500
>he isn't mining carbon credits right now