/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13618048]

In 8 hours time I'll wake up and go to church for the first time in 7/8 years. I've been reading a lot of moldbug, pro-monarchy stuff and XIst century European history. The idea popped in my head out of the blue today and now I'd like to see what I can get out of it.
Am I being dumb or will it prove to be a positive experience?
I'm also looking for a book about catholicism related to topics of interest in neoreactionary/monarchist thought. Please and thank you

[Anonymous No.13618318]

Bump request

[Anonymous No.13618352]

Wouldn't it be XIth? also, why do fags on this board fall for memes so hard?

[Anonymous No.13618358]

Essays on Catholicism, Liberalism and Socialism - Juan Donoso Cortés

[Anonymous No.13618368]

>>13618048
>neoreactionary/monarchist
>thought
You don't often find someone pathetic enough to think these words actually belong together

[Anonymous No.13618374]

>>13618048
You'll probably be a bit disappointed. But don't let it scare you.

[Anonymous No.13618378]

>>13618048
it'll be a bunch of soft ignorant people with no clue about the history of their own religion. Nietzsche was right.

[Anonymous No.13618482]

>>13618378
Priests marry and bury five times as many people as you know on a name by name basis, but you’re probably right they don’t know anything, unlike you who read Beyond Good and Evil and Zarathustra once.

[Anonymous No.13618495]

>>13618482
He's talking about the congregation not the priests

[Anonymous No.13618499]

>>13618482
Priests also molest five times as many people as I know on a name to name basis

[Anonymous No.13618552]

>>13618378
i'm seconding this anon but much less pessimistic.
i've gone to church my whole life, my dad is a pastor, my grandfather and great-grandfather were pastors; educated people don't typically go to church and people certainly don't go to church to be educated in any sort of academic sense.

that being said i have a profound and humbling respect for religious institutions. its the only place a lot of people can go to be accepted as they are and express true vulnerability, true shame, true grace, and true meditation on forgiveness and love. church is for offering common people a place of solace, a sense of real community, focus on improving or repairing themselves, and just a reminder that God loves them, that they love each other, and that despite the struggles and the downfalls, everything is going to be alright because we all fall short, together.

if you want to study religion take a class. church is for doers, not thinkers.

[Anonymous No.13618561]

>>13618552
i should probably follow this up by saying i haven't gone to church regularly in a few years(i visit my dad's church when there's an event that involves free food) and i'm protestant.
Catholicism, as academically and theologically essential as it is, is a bit sterile in practice.

[Anonymous No.13618605]

>>13618368
Describe to me the movements which you consider truly intellectual and the prime books from which to obtain enlightenment from.

[Anonymous No.13618610]

>>13618499
So do gym teachers, in fact it’s probably double that

[Anonymous No.13618737]

>>13618605
Modernist and postmodernist fiction, ancient philosophy

[Anonymous No.13618744]

>>13618737
And marxism, obviously

[Anonymous No.13618800]

>>13618495
>the majority of people are ignorant, nietzsche was right guys
>>13618499
Priests have a lower sexual assault rate than the average person, but yeah... sure.

[Anonymous No.13618913]

>>13618800
>Priests have a lower sexual assault rate than the average person, but yeah... sure.
I was going to try to find statistics to counter this assumption but I cannot find any. Do you have any verifiable source behind this claim? If priests aren't more likely to commit sexual assaults than most other occupations I would like to see the some numbers.

[Anonymous No.13619643]

>>13618368
How can I be a catholic when the pope is straight up pushing for open borders like the good cultural marxist he is?

[Anonymous No.13619659]

>>13619643
Does the Kingdom of God have any borders?

[Anonymous No.13619675]

>>13619659
OK retard

[Anonymous No.13619682]

>>13618368
>Duhhh ur ideology dum

[Anonymous No.13619773]

>>13618048
An author in particular i'd look into is CS Lewis. Also Chesterton even though i haven't read much of his.
Also this book should be on topic https://www.amazon.com/Why-America-Needs-Religion-Discontents/dp/0802841627 but you probably can read a review without buying it. Here's a good one http://home.earthlink.net/~peter.a.taylor/lewy.htm
Another interesting text here http://home.earthlink.net/~peter.a.taylor/midrash.htm

[Anonymous No.13620064]

>>13618913
Here's some numbers
294856
52939586.6994932
216238956
328812

[Anonymous No.13620193]

>>13620064
Astounding.

[Anonymous No.13620242]

I was in the same position a few years ago, had saturated myself in traditionalist, anti-modernity texts, and got all gung ho about going to church to stick it to the libs. But I found that church didn’t really have anything to do with what I was into. “What? They are preaching love and egalitarianism and not monarchy and the smiting of heretics?! Cucks!”

Of course, a big part of the problem was that I had already became so insufferably contrarian that I couldn’t sit there in the pew without criticizing every damned thing around me: the congregation, the pastor, the building, the decor, the sermon. It was like that my feet hurt wojack meme.

Even though i feel like I’ve grown out of that mindset, I still don’t go to church. I just couldn’t drum up any belief in any of it.

[Anonymous No.13620273]

>>13620193
he means: do your own research faggot

[Anonymous No.13621511]

>>13620273
I did, and also I'm not the one making unsubstantiated claims. Fucking kill yourself you mongol.

[Anonymous No.13621542]

>>13620242
What do you believe in now? I'd really like to know.

[Anonymous No.13622433]

>>13621542
I dunno. Some form of pessimistic Epicureanism, i.e. the world is going to shit, but so what, might as well be as comfy as possible in the meantime. I’ve devoted my life to avoiding work as much as possible, and enjoying myself as much as I can. Outright hedonism is a slippery slope, but luckily I’m not into drugs or anything and my pleasures are for the most part pretty harmless.

Basically I want to take it easy until I die at a ripe old age, and there has never been a better time in human history for this.

[Anonymous No.13622495]

>>13622433
>These are the people you're up against
Imagine being this much of a gay retard lmao thanks for the motivation to go to church.

[Anonymous No.13622582]

>>13618048
>moldbug
Go back to pol idiot

[Anonymous No.13622597]

>>13622582
Hothead

[Anonymous No.13622635]

>>13618048
Lyrics absolutely btfo democracy and French https://youtube.com/watch?v=xid2_oEP5ho

[Anonymous No.13622651]

>>13618048
Catholicism and monarchy don't mix well, but whatever. Have a reading list.

[Anonymous No.13622988]

>>13622582
Muh democracy Muh we're all equal

[Anonymous No.13623049]

When I went to church after mass everyone shook each others hand and said god bless you. They then invited me to have tea or coffee and some biscuits. Keep in mind I was crying during the service so when everyone treated me nicely I felt like the top of the world. I'll highly recommend it. You won't meet any girls however everyone is in there 60's. But maybe the sexagenerians have cute grand daughters that you could meet.

[Anonymous No.13623761]

>>13622433
I don't even have the words for what a pathetic faggot you are. Instead of immersing yourself in the desert fathers, or Christian Mysticism, or really ANYTHING of value, after (probably correctly) identifying shortcomings in modern worship, you decide to hang up your hat and kick back. Your beliefs meant nothing, and the only respectable thing you've said is that you were a contrarian, because at least that was the truth. I would be embarrassed and ashamed looking in the mirror every single morning if I were you. You can't even commit to being a full-on degenerate. Even THAT takes some kind of stance.

[Anonymous No.13623799]

>>13622651
Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.13623829]

>>13618048
>moldbug
read SSC