Is self control the proof we have soul?

[Anonymous No.13648709]

[Elliot No.13648720]

>>13648709
It's a proof that you are a domesticated animal

[Anonymous No.13648737]

>>13648709
How would self control be proof of the soul?

[Anonymous No.13648753]

>>13648737
the soul dictates the body to what it should do instead of following only biological urges

[Anonymous No.13648763]

>>13648709
In the night, no control
Through the wall something's breaking
Wearing white as you're walkin'
Down the street of my soul
You take my self, you take my self control

[Anonymous No.13648767]

>>13648763
Stop listening to music

[Anonymous No.13648779]

>>13648753
How do you know it's the soul and not just the brain?

[Anonymous No.13648783]

>>13648767
Have sex.

[Anonymous No.13648801]

>>13648767
>bloom

[Anonymous No.13648807]

>>13648767
What an absolute moron. Music is an art like any other. Should we appreciate less art?

[Anonymous No.13648824]

>>13648779
why would the brain choose to not eat when the body is hungry and there are plenty of food available?

[Anonymous No.13648840]

>>13648824
Because we've evolved the ability to think in abstract terms, consciousness, and higher intelligence. Asceticism is generally done to connect to something spiritual, we have a biological need for attachment, so we strive to achieve said attachment/fulfillment in many different ways.

[Anonymous No.13648850]

>>13648779
'What is the taste of bread? That of the first piece I eat when I am hungry or the one I eat after, when I am full? What is the smell of roast? The good, dear aroma that overpowers all other smells and wafts about me as I search in vain for food, or that of the piece left over on my table? And the eye, what does the eye see? I truly believe that everyone can experience the dubious sight of one’s eye and be uncertain as to the faces of those closest to him. Look at the face of a friend you trust and you find a noble visage. You locate the nobility either in the nose or the forehead or “a certain something of the eyes”; look at him when he has betrayed you and you see a vile mouth, a sinister glance, “an expression that’s just not right.” (And if one looks at a woman before and after one has had one’s way with her, the contradiction strikes even more stridently). What is the experience of reality? If I am hungry, reality is nothing more to me than an ensemble of more or less edible things. If I am thirsty, reality is more or less liquid, and more or less potable. If I am sleepy, it is a great bed more or less hard. If I am not hungry, not thirsty, not sleepy, and do not need any other determinate thing, the world is a large ensemble of grays that are I don’t know what but that certainly are not made to cheer me up.'

P & R, C. Michelstaedler

[Anonymous No.13648867]

>>13648850
I don't understand what you're trying to convey with this excerpt

[Anonymous No.13648896]

>>13648709
You have no 'self', and absolutely no control.
All you have and all you are is different drives constantly fighting for control of the vessel you call you

[Anonymous No.13648911]

>>13648720
>>13648840
>>13648896

[Anonymous No.13648927]

>>13648911
>stop disagreeing with dead philosophers
>you must be an NPC if you disagree with me
>my automatic robot-like reaction to dissenting opinions is definitely not indicative of myself being an NPC

[Anonymous No.13648952]

>>13648840
>Because we've evolved
evolution is just a theory

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13648960]

>>13648709
No.

[Anonymous No.13648964]

>>13648952
So is gravity, who cares? We believe the theory with the most evidence. Evolution has the most evidence

[Anonymous No.13648979]

>>13648960
Essential epicurus is much smaller than I originally thought it would be. Did you skip his scientific views and just get to the meat? After browsing it seems like mostly outdated information.

[Anonymous No.13649014]

>>13648964
gravity exists, we just can't explain it
evolution doesn't necessarily exist, no one ever saw it happening
>inb4 muh antibiotic resistent bacteria
its just proves adaptations happen, not evolution

[Anonymous No.13649035]

>>13648720
/thread

[Anonymous No.13649039]

>>13649014
>>13649014
>its just proves adaptations happen, not evolution
You'll have to disprove inductive reasoning for this to make any sense.

[Anonymous No.13649059]

Yes, but people will deny this unto their graves because they have built their eroded capacities for inhibition and self-control as their own personalities.

They actually think they are free when they are enslaved to their urges! See >>13648720
>>13648960

[Anonymous No.13649070]

>>13648824
t. very poor imagination

[Anonymous No.13649075]

>>13649014
We've taken the same species of insects, seperated them into two groups, and let them diverge in traits over time until the two groups couldn't interbreed, making them different species.

[Anonymous No.13649116]

>>13648964
Although the vast majority of research in evolutionary biology is focused on adaption, a general theory for the population-genetic mechanisms by which complex adaptations are acquired remains to be developed.” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the U.S., “Scaling expectations for the time to establishment of complex adaptations”, September 7, 2010, doi:10.1073/pnas.1010836107

[Anonymous No.13649142]

>>13648720
Your mom is my animal pet.

[Anonymous No.13649148]

>>13649014
What is adaptation over a long time?

[Anonymous No.13649184]

>>13649075
they are still insects

>>13649148
can adaptations create complexity to form new species? no, it just degrades the current genetic material

[Anonymous No.13649203]

>>13648964
If evolution is true then how are we all equal? Checkmate.

[Anonymous No.13649265]

>>13648801
>wallace

[Anonymous No.13649374]

>>13648807
Niggas iffy, uh, blicky got the stiffy, uh
Got the blicky, uh, drum it holds fifty, uh
(Scum Gang!)
Pop these niggas like a wheelie nigga, you a silly nigga
In the hood with them Billy niggas, and them Hoover niggas
You run up and they shooting niggas, we ain't hooping nigga
No KB, you a loser nigga, up that Uzi nigga
On the stoop, crills in my draws, your girl on my phone
She wanna fuck but keep her clothes on, I only want the jaw
Man that's really all I use her for, I kick her out the door
I don't want her, you can keep the whore, she fiendin' for some more
In New York my niggas don't Milly Rock, my niggas money bop
Blow a case a nigga throwing shots, I run 'em off they block
Quarter milli in the stash box, I grinded for my spot
Niggas talking 'bout that cash but my bag worth a lot
I don't fuck with no old hoes, only new hoes
Put my dick in her backbone, I pass her to my bro
I don't love her that's a sad hoe, she a bad hoe
I'ma fuck her then I dash home, to the cash hoe
I'm on some rob a nigga shit, take a nigga bitch
Do the dash in the whip, count the cash in the whip
I pull up with a stick, I let that shit hit
Shout out, but I fucked that nigga bitch
Niggas iffy, uh, blicky got the stiffy, uh
Got the blicky, uh, drum it holds fifty, uh
Move milli', all my niggas on fifty, uh
Talk down, pew pew pew, you silly, uh
Hit a stain, fifty bands, all hunnids
Spinning through ya block like a pop shove-it
Shoot at me I'm shooting back, I'm getting buckets
I ain't wanna take his life but nigga, fuck it
I'm on some rob a nigga shit, take a nigga bitch
Do the dash in the whip, count the cash in the whip
I pull up with a stick, I let that shit hit
Shout out, but I fucked that nigga bitch
I'm on some rob a nigga shit, take a nigga bitch
Do the dash in the whip, count the cash in the whip
I pull up with a stick, I let that shit hit
Shout out, but I fucked that nigga bitch
Scum Gang

[Anonymous No.13649390]

>>13649184
Yes, because a bunch of small changes in isolation lead to a completely different creature than what you started with

[Anonymous No.13650030]

>>13648763
Hey that’s a good song.

[Anonymous No.13650213]

No.
The prof is the existence of the concept.
A concept of something can't be found anywhere on the human brain -or body, by that matter-. So it must be somewhere else, that place we call it the soul.

[Anonymous No.13650224]

>>13650213
>what is an MRI

[Anonymous No.13650239]

>>13650224
care to extend on that?

[Anonymous No.13650327]

>>13650239
https://www.cmu.edu/dietrich/news/news-stories/2017/june/brain-decoding-complex-thoughts.html

[Anonymous No.13650348]

>>13650224
Realtime fMRI, thank you very much

[Anonymous No.13650551]

>>13648709
No, but doing the mashed potato is.
Look at all these niggas who missed that OP did not say "a soul."

[Anonymous No.13651058]

>>13648709
Soul is the interpretation of the consciousness/subconsciousness

[Anonymous No.13651292]

>>13650327
From this article, I understand they figured out how the brain processes complex concepts, meaning by this, the reasoning processes. For instance, S > P = Q, or "All humans die, Socrates is a human, Socrates will die". This is called going through judgment "All humans die" to reasoning (new judgments that you didn't know before) such as "Socrates will die".
But this study doesn't speak about the formation of the concept in itself. For instance, take the idea of the "tree". I have just written here "tree" and your mind, instantly, reflected on the imprint for intelligible species, your own concept of the tree, which is SO FUCKING COMPLEX, involves all the trees you've seen in your entire life, descriptions of trees made by your friends and family, trees you've seen in picture or descriptions read on books, poems that were talking about the tree in an analogical view, etcetera.
This concept, the "tree", is unique. Is your own Tree (with capitol T), nobody else has this concept. It's your own, and even though everyone else have a concept of a tree, no one will have the same as yours, ever. It's absolutely impossible, because that concept (like all the hundreds of thousands of concepts you are using in this instant) is formed by your own personal experiences, which change and occur by every milisecond.
That's what I mean when the concept is prof that the soul exists. You can do all the MRI scans you want, but they will just show you which parts of the brain light up when you think, when you use concepts and form judgments and ideas, that's it. But it will never show you where the "concept" is, every idea you have formed in all your life, about everything you know, tree, chair, elephant, pencil, cloud, honor, homicide, death, trial, fair. All those concepts are somewhere, just not in your mind. And I could bet my balls that no one, ever, will explain to me where are they physically located or how are they formed. And that's the beauty of it.

[Anonymous No.13651360]

>>13648840
>Because we've evolved the ability to think in abstract terms, consciousness, and higher intelligence. Asceticism is generally done to connect to something spiritual, we have a biological need for attachment, so we strive to achieve said attachment/fulfillment in many different ways.

How contrived.