China Mieville

[Anonymous No.13668486]

I'm reading about China Mieville's books and they all seem really imaginative. Are they good? I know that it's in the nature of all these high concept books to be slightly disappointing but what's your opinion anyway?

[Anonymous No.13668714]

They're OK. He occasionally spergs about muh communism.

[Anonymous No.13668729]

>>13668486
HAPPY

Why do they call him the Joker?

DOPEY

I heard he wears make-up.

HAPPY

Make-up?

Dopey pulls out thick bundles of blue CAT 5 cables.

DOPEY

Yeah. To scare people. War paint.

[Anonymous No.13668734]

>>13668486
He is a commie faggot but his books are great. City and the City is my favorite.

[Anonymous No.13668786]

>>13668734
Agree. Not high-lit, but comfy. City&City is great.

[Anonymous No.13668847]

>>13668486
I consider Perdido Street Station to be among the worst books I've ever read. Mieville's approach to creativity is to just pull shit out of his ass with no internal consistency and vomit it onto the page in a morass of purple prose. All of the weird shit, which Mieville really shoves into your face, has no real meaning. It's just there to be different.

He also uses his work to climb onto a political soapbox. And his soapbox is communism. Not left-leaning American liberal "communism", but legit communism. A while ago I wondered if I might have been too harsh on him, so I decided to look up some stuff on YouTube. First thing I got was him at some commie event calling people "comrades" while sucking Chavez's dick. This really informs his work to the point of it taking frequent nosedives in flat, black and white political "commentary".

Clearly plenty people like him. I'm not one of them. I've only read the one book, but no-one has ever given me any cause to believe it's of lower quality than the rest. Better writers wrote better books in the page count it takes Mieville to even start his main plot.

[Anonymous No.13670180]

>>13668486
Anyone here read his nonfiction?

[Anonymous No.13671091]

>>13670180
His book on the October Revolution in Russia is incredible. Highly recommend it.

[Anonymous No.13671761]

>>13668847
I'm seconding this. Especially the part on Perdido Street Station being incredibly shit.
Its one of the very very few books I actively regret reading.
The author is so proud of his describing skills that he stops with the buildup for the final confrontation to have two side characters lay plumbing tubes through the city completely devoid of anything relevant just so he can describe the dirt colours for a good 20+ pages. Absolute Garbage. The book is a good 200 pages too long because of escapades like that.
Also our MC completely abandons the entire plotline of the book (the flying machine) after he hears that the birdman raped someone. Now this would be ok if anyone in this Book was even remotely portrayed as an righteous person. But instead the MC actions killed many many people before and he actively murdered an innocent man not hours ago by feeding his soul to vampires. During the whole book while we where in MCs head there was never the slightest doubt about what birdmans previous actions where. Anyone would suspect at least something along the lines of manslaughter in this world to get punished that hard. Instead MCs seemed to have suspected the crime to be something along the lines of tax-fraud or parking violition.
Fuck this book made me mad. There is tons of other shit in there which was bad but I wouldn't be as upsetting if the author wouldn't have thrown everything out of the window in the last few chapters while leading us on for 500 pages with unnecessary shit.

>dude the city in itself is a character
The city is huge pile of garbage. So is this book and most certainly, so is Mieville that huge fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.13671787]

>>13668847
Came here to say exactly this.

[Anonymous No.13671950]

>>13668486
They're great. Perdido is overrated but still good (I'm not really into hard-fantasy but I still enjoyed it for what it was)

He has plenty of books that aren't as hard-fantasy like Perdido. His short stories are imaginative and clever. The City & The City is great. And his nonfiction is good (October etc)

[Anonymous No.13672973]

>>13668847
>Brainlet being upset about Mieville being original and a communist
Protip, who gives a fuck what his politics are. I'm a libertarian and I could care less he's a commie because he writes well. As for your other point you're literally just bitching about a writer trying to create an original world in the fantasy/sci-fi genre.

Perdido Street Station is rip-roaringly good fiction that touches on humanity and human concepts much more profoundly than the endless clones of Tolkein every do.

[Anonymous No.13673028]

>>13672973
>Tolkein
Brianlet.

[Anonymous No.13673048]

>>13673028
>one word
reply

[Anonymous No.13673141]

>>13671091
Thanks. His dissertation?

[Anonymous No.13673590]

>>13673141
It's a nonfiction book called "October". Came out not too long ago.