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[Anonymous No.13968475]

>tfw just finished Decline
fucking depressing brehs. What the fuck can we do against the march of entropy?
Spengler thread

[Anonymous No.13968480]

Ride the tiger

[Anonymous No.13968492]

>>13968475
Nothing, opt out of society and become a nomad like me

[Anonymous No.13968509]

>>13968475

[Anonymous No.13968632]

>>13968475
Still reading it, only at the musical part.
There is nothing depressing in Spengler,at least from where I am. It is pure life affirmation (unlike pseuds like Nietzsche).

[Anonymous No.13968634]

>>13968632
Spengler was a Nietzsche fanboy.

[Anonymous No.13968649]

>>13968634
Not really, have you read him?
He has a few points he admits come from Nietzsche but has deep differences with him and pokes at him several times. He plainly says it so I'm not sure where you are going.
The only two people he openly fellates are Goethe and Leibniz.

[Anonymous No.13968663]

>>13968649
You can fanboy someone without agreeing with him on everything. It's enough that you have a sustained admiration for someone. He even said Nietzsche gave him the gift of doubt.

[Anonymous No.13969136]

>>13968649
Are you kidding? He's almost an epigone

[Anonymous No.13969166]

>>13968649
And now, finally, I feel urged to name once more those to whom lowe
practically everything: Goethe and Nietzsche. Goethe gave me method,
Nietzsche the questioning faculty - and if I were asked to find a formula for
my relation to the latter I should say that I had made of his •• outlook" (AushUck) an .. overlook" (UberhUck). But Goethe was, without knowing it, a
disciple of Leibniz in his whole mode of thought. And, therefore, that which
has at last (and to my own astonishment) taken shape in my hands I am able
to regard and, despite the misery and disgust of these years, proud to call a
German philosophy.

[Anonymous No.13969292]

>>13968663
Basically this, Spengler loved metaphysics and has a robust metaphysical system which is the main area he departs from Nietzsche.

[Anonymous No.13969336]

>>13969292
Read Deleuze's Nietzsche. Will to Power is metaphysical.

Anyway fighting entropy is impossible and well all know this is a twilight era.l

[Anonymous No.13969531]

>>13969336
>well all know this is a twilight era
But things have never been better

[Anonymous No.13969544]

>>13968475
>>13968480
>>13968509
Thanks for the making the same fucking comments every day lads

[Anonymous No.13969663]

>>13968475
Read Man and Technics next

>>13968649
I agree with you that Spengler corrects Neetchan's romanticism and some of his more dumb ideas, but it's also important to consider, especially early on in Decline, how Spengler seems to deride the causal side of life in favour of the destiny, which is Neetchan's great mistake.

>>13969166
And Leibniz was a disciple of Llull in turn. Hispanics always come out on top.

>>13969544
I always make threads with new Spenglerian analysis but they never get any replies. Remember Spengler thought Decline as a Copernican revolution and only just the beginning. There is still much work to be done.

[Anonymous No.13969718]

>>13969531
Are you a do nothing bourgeoisie? Our civilization used to be so abundant there was an entire class of aristocrats that had immense amounts of freedom. They went to university, which was practically free, studied whatever they pleased, and then had cushy academic jobs, or just vacationed all the time with their familial wealth. Sure, this was on the back of the proles, but at least there were humans that benfited.

Now, all of our intelligent have immense debt, work multiple jobs to stay afloat to do any creative work like literature, poetry, philosophy, art. Or they do STEMbot jobs to get paid and thats 90% of their motivation. No one would starve or work shit jobs to do what a coding or engineering job in their free time.

Why do you think the 19th and early 20th century have such a rich poetic, philosophical, and literature culture compared to now?

We have all become proles. Things are worse.

[Anonymous No.13969736]

>>13969718
This is literally the story of Rome. Pillage their empire, create a golden age, and then decay. Rome is dead and gone and our hegemony eventually will be too. This bullshit cannot continue forever.

[Anonymous No.13969747]

>>13968475
>caring about things you can't affect
bruh

[Anonymous No.13969757]

>>13969747
But doesn't literature and philosophy change the world. Didn't the bible change the world? Didnt Marx change the world? Didn't Plato?

[Anonymous No.13969791]

>>13969757
Then just write and stop this useless worrying.

[Anonymous No.13969798]

>>13969791
Thanks Seneca

[Anonymous No.13969813]

>>13968475
spengler more like spergler lmao

[Anonymous No.13969817]

[Anonymous No.13969823]

Just ordered this. The author (or his friend, Reilly himself is dead) has a lot of good articles about Spengler related topics on benespen.com.

[Anonymous No.13969829]

>>13969798
np bruh

[Anonymous No.13969830]

>>13969817
sex gifs

[Anonymous No.13969840]

>>13969823
We should make a chart for Spengler books.

[Anonymous No.13969847]

>>13969840
This one was really good, much better than H Stuart Hughes book about Spengler. But it had the advantage of 40 more years of Spengler scholarship.

[Anonymous No.13969852]

>>13969736
Might as well enjoy it/profit while it lasts. I wouldn't wanna be the next generation.

[Anonymous No.13969910]

>>13969852
Yeah id love to have kids but it feels like doing so will just fuck them over
and yes i know that this will only make demographic decline worse

[Anonymous No.13969912]

>>13969531
Imagine actually believing this. What a stock NPC response.

[Anonymous No.13970092]

I dont get why people get so worked up about the decline of the west, the west is fucking gay now, and is long past its peek. I for one look forward to the end of this civilization, and towards the spring and summer ages of the civilizations that will take our place.
Trying to stop the decline of the west would be like trying to stop a forest fire, in the short run it will be beneficial, but in the long run it will only weaken the forest. Its time to let all our dead wood and leaves burn away.

[Anonymous No.13970143]

>>13969823

[Anonymous No.13970220]

>>13970092
>implying
Humanity as a whole doesn't have much time left, we will destroy ourselves in the end.