/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13988861]

What should I read to understand this better, or at least explore its themes more?
Serious replies only, its a serious question.

[Anonymous No.13988869]

The Bible.

[Anonymous No.13988884]

Nothing. Rewatch the series/film. That is the only thing you can do. It requires no supplementary material.

[Anonymous No.13989019]

>>13988861
There is nothing to understand

[Anonymous No.13989029]

>>13988884
/thread

[Anonymous No.13989057]

>>13988884
This. Eva rewards rewatching. It doesn't require outside sources to "get" because despite its reputation, its messages are pretty straightforward. But when you watch it again you'll notice new elements of the direction and parallelism within the series you didn't see before.

[Anonymous No.13989059]

>>13988861
I always heard the main influences were: Schopenhauer, Freud, and Jung.

[Anonymous No.13989075]

Lacan and Zizek unironically. Eva is all about the Subject.

[Anonymous No.13989083]

>>13988861
There‘s a quote from Robert Browning in there, specifically Pippa Passes
Read some Friedrich Schiller because of the use of Ode to joy
Lacan maybe
Gravity’s Rainbow because of a couple similarities

[Anonymous No.13989129]

>>13988861
just remember that religion = denial of life and embrace of emptyness and you're good

[Namefag just to make you faggo(...) !t2LwBpWlZM No.13989136]

>>13988861
it's a fucking cartoon. It's supposed to be stupid.

[Anonymous No.13989139]

>>13989136
you're stupid

[Anonymous No.13989142]

He read summaries of entry level existential philosophy and psychoanalysis. There is no "hidden meaning" or anything. Just take it how it is

[Anonymous No.13989159]

>>13989083
>Gravity’s Rainbow because of a couple similarities
How? Is Katje supposed to be Rei or something?

[Anonymous No.13989166]

>>13988861
a great read

[Anonymous No.13989229]

>>13989159
Apocalyptic fiction (or in Eva’s case it is post-post-apocalyptic going towards another apocalypse)
Shared consciousnesses of characters and manifestation of inner psyche through external Freudian symbols
Confusion of main characters, underlying conspiracy that is purposely incomprehensible/super-complex
Wombs in relation to technology, post-humanist themes (Gottfried in the rocket compared to Shinji in the Eva)
“Evil God” desiring destruction of humanity (think Hand of God pointing at Slothrop, use of Puritanism, Preterite/Elect)
That’s all I can think of atm but I think there are more

[Anonymous No.13990202]

Jung is probably a good bet.
There's some kabbalah in there as well.

[Anonymous No.13990922]

>>13988861
Religion and mysticism:
Hebrew Bible
Book of Enoch
Book of Revelation
Paradise Lost
The Divine Comedy
Kabbalism
Gnosticism
Hermeticism
Alchemy
Astrology

Psychology and psychoanalysis
Sigmund Freud
Carl Jung
Melanie Klein
Paul Eugen Bleuler
Edoardo Weiss

Philosophy:
Soren Kierkegaard
Jacques Lacan
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
Jean-Paul Sartre
Martin Heidegger
Arthur Schopenhauer

Fiction:
Childhood's End
The Space Odyssey series
The Beast that Shouted Love at the Heart of the World

[Anonymous No.13991295]

>>13989142
I don't understand why this is a criticism of artists. It can be true, but it is also largely irrelevant because a creator can totally misunderstand a certain philosophy or only know it on a shallow level but still weave those ideas into a narrative with imagery that adds far more depth and intuitive complexity than with a philosophical text alone. Artists mostly work unconsciously and intuitively in the first place. Keats probably read less and lived a shorter life than many scholars, but scholars are the ones writing books and books on Keats.

There are images in Eva that, married with ideas, convey far more directly the experience of things like existentialism and psychoanalysis such that it gives more than the sources it took from.

[Anonymous No.13992158]

>>13988861
What am I missing? I watched it and got nothing but vulgar insults at otakus and escapism, coupled with completely meaningless religious imagery
>There are a lot of giant robot shows in Japan, and we did want our story to have a religious theme to help distinguish us... we just thought the visual symbols of Christianity look cool.

[Anonymous No.13992196]

>>13989057
yeah love rewatching the dance and lava episodes

[Anonymous No.13992203]

>>13992158
What, glowing crosses sticking out of the ground and a weak kaworu/Jesus metaphor aren't enough for you to think the show is among the deepest anime ever made? You must be too dumb to understand it.

[Anonymous No.13992722]

>>13992203
what are the deeper or better animes? I want to like the art form

[Anonymous No.13992763]

It literally has episodes named after Kierkegaard parables.

[Anonymous No.13992815]

>>13989166

How do you think she comes?

[Anonymous No.13992817]

>>13992763
schopenhauer
also references are not deep

[Anonymous No.13993151]

>>13992722
It offers an alright argument for individualism, with Shinji turning all of humanity into a single-consciousness tang that he ultimately finds empty. The arguments against escapism are mainly that running from your problems will leave you feeling more empty than if you try and fail. Not sure where you got an anti-otaku theme from.

I always found the show’s real artistry to be in it’s visuals

[Anonymous No.13993252]

>>13988861
Freud, Jung, Lacan, the Zohar, Nietzche and maybe some other German Idealists. It depends on what do you want to see though

[Anonymous No.13993450]

>>13992815
By the door

[Anonymous No.13993554]

>>13993151
This

[Anonymous No.13993626]

>>13993151
>>13993554
>I always found the show’s real artistry to be in it’s visuals
Ever notice how science fiction must constantly appropriate the vocabulary and imagery of pre-modernity? In NGE, we have "Angels", "Berserkers", "Magi", and so on. Surely this indicates an aesthetic deficiency in futurism when compared to antiquity

[Anonymous No.13993697]

>>13993151
>Not sure where you got an anti-otaku theme from.
Are you serious?
Whatever else Eva has going for it, it's held back by the fact that it was made 100% by and for nerds rather than normal people.

[Anonymous No.13994028]

>>13988861
The gnostics
https://youtu.be/NO8pLlbCr6I

[Anonymous No.13994039]

listen to the commentary tracks
there's tons of podcasts, discussions, hell a whole forum dedicated to dissecting this show
go seek them

[Anonymous No.13994046]

>>13988861
What would he have thought of it?

[Anonymous No.13994083]

>>13988861
nothing, other faggy gook cartoons probably
the creator admitted that the symbolism is there because he thought it "looked cool", there's no deeper meaning

[Anonymous No.13994091]

>>13994046
He would have been an Asukafag

[Anonymous No.13994186]

>>13994083
>the creator admitted that the symbolism is there because he thought it "looked cool", there's no deeper meaning
Why do fags keep posting this bit of disinfo?

[Anonymous No.13994279]

>>13988861
jorjani wrote a segment analysing it in "prometheus and atlas"

[Anonymous No.13994355]

>>13993626
This is a terrible illustration.

[Anonymous No.13994617]

>>13993697
How is being made by and for nerds anti-otaku? Only thing I can think of that’s against it is the fact that Rei is an emotionless sex doll most of the show, which was meant to make people feel guilty about wanking to her but instead she stayed immensely popular

[Anonymous No.13994839]

>>13994617
A lot of the anti-escapist themes are aimed pretty squarely at otaku.

[Anonymous No.13994866]

>>13992203
Shallow allusions don't make something deep

[Anonymous No.13995035]

>>13988861
Probably just previous anime. Anime is always a distillation of tropes.

[Anonymous No.13995045]

>>13994186
Just look for an interview in the 90s where he spends the day with school children. That's exactly what he says and its clear the symbolism is meaningless.

[Anonymous No.13995051]

>>13989129
wtf that's based

[Anonymous No.13995181]

>>13993450
based

[Anonymous No.13995198]

>>13993626
antiquity--what survived it at least--wasn't very imaginative either, it's just worse now

[Anonymous No.13995203]

Just stop being a pseud and watch Lain instead. You'll need to read a lot more for it than this pleb shit. Starting with Swann's Way

[Anonymous No.13995259]

>>13993626
If it's not a reskin of the past or present, it's not relatable.

[Anonymous No.13995269]

>>13993697
>believing in normal people
you're below average

[Anonymous No.13995338]

>>13995269
there's definitely a difference between those that manage to maintain appearances and those that don't

[Anonymous No.13995456]

>>13989129
How does religion = denial of life?

[Anonymous No.13995496]

>>13994083
Just because the Christian symbolism may have no deeper meaning doesn't mean the show itself is meaningless. Have you even watched it? Because it sounds like from "faggy gook cartoons" that you are already biased against the medium and are just repeating something you've heard someone else say.

[Anonymous No.13995608]

>>13988861
It's literally a kids show, isn't even that complex just elusive and of what content it does have is mildly interesting just an entertaining show; all of the philosophical, occult and religious themes are bastardised so there is no point in looking into tho context for any reason other than the context in itself - not the show.

Not even that good of a show anyway. Shinji best, most intelligent and funny character. Based Entp.

[Anonymous No.13995624]

>>13993151
>It offers an alright argument for individualism, with Shinji turning all of humanity into a single-consciousness tang that he ultimately finds empty.
Are you retarded? Do you not know what individualism is?

>The arguments against escapism are mainly that running from your problems will leave you feeling more empty than if you try and fail.
Your peasant wisdom is cringingly obvious.

[Anonymous No.13995684]

>>13992196
The show is great but far from perfect. I’d argue that the main appeal of the show comes from the latter half of the series + EoE

[Anonymous No.13995700]

>>13993626
It's because modernity (and the future fiction as a specifically modern production) is torpid in its most essential nature causing its own abstractions to fall into artificiality in any attempt at its own saving power. These archetypal images are - for as far as man lives - eternal. We call them by names of the past because 1. They are simply asserted and popular namings, and 2. The abstractions of old were of an essential truth sure, sure if anything of itself. You cannot function on a societal level (inferring abstraction) when the collective mass is intent on egoism and delusion. This idea being its own sustenance willing into - because of this - its own self degradation. Though of course the illusion is only its own self perpetuation in so far as the masses continue to believe it to be a truth, until they do not it shall just ever go further from its own artificial presupposition into further artificiality until this collective unity and will in egoism becomes this only asserting itself into naturality from the ground up.

[Anonymous No.13996656]

>>13989166
There's a lot of interesting content in the book, but I don't think Saito manages to draw any meaningful conclusions

[Anonymous No.13996714]

>>13995203
Shut the fuck up,the only people who like Lain are deranged programmers and discord trannies

[Anonymous No.13996778]

>>13994355
why?

[Anonymous No.13996965]

>>13995684
This, the movie made the show 10x times better in retrospect

[Anonymous No.13996979]

>>13988861
I think it's a fantastic show but at the same time I feel like if you wanted to do any reading, it would just be very base-level existential though/psychological theory. The story goes the creator was trying to pick himself up out of a sever depression and picked up a psych textbook. A lot of the images are things he was interested in but didn't inherently assign a meaning to in creation; you can of course read into it because the symbolism is so open.
read that sacha grey book, existenitalism from dosteovsky to sartre or whatever it's called. it's base level but the imagery is so psychadelic that it tricks you into thinking it's message is much deeper than it actually is.

[Anonymous No.13997046]

>>13988861
yes it touches on a wide range of religious, literary and philosophical themes but thats it. At the end of the day, the creator saying it was just vanity is probably true. Its a great creative work but it has only a fraction of the literary , ect works it takes garnishes from. Probably the most interesting is how the eva eats the angel.

[Anonymous No.13997073]

>>13992722
>what are the deeper or better animes?

The ones directed by Anno's butt buddy Kunihiko Ikuhara.

[Anonymous No.13997082]

https://alexsheremet.com/neon-genesis-evangelion-place-animation/

[Anonymous No.13997159]

>>13997082
I like this, at least when it isn't being too tryhard. It at least correctly addresses Eva's biggest actual issue from a reputational standpoint, the weakness of its characterization and attempts to make up for this through a combination of: having characters shoving their obvious issues in your face repeatedly, hinting that they have depth you can't fathom without backing that up with anything concrete, and flooring the screen with creative imagery and direction that suggests philosophical relevance.

[Anonymous No.13997387]

>>13995045
He literally doesn't. He just says he chose the name of the show because it sounded cool. Plus, he didn't came up with it, Sadamoto did. I think most people obviate the fact that Evangelion was conceived and made by a group of people, not just Anno.

[Anonymous No.13997449]

>>13992196
>the dance
one of the best episodes of the show pleb

[Anonymous No.13997749]

>>13989129

You people are boring. Eternal life is the most "life affirming" idea that ever crossed a human mind.
The one limit to real enjoyment of life, that it must end, is removed; the Last Enemy defeated.
Imagine living forever with no more división between You and the source of all that is. Your whole life you felt like You lacked something, like you were incomplete; and assuaged the feeling with temporal limited things. Imagine this need forever assuaged, imagine your nature Fulfilled for eternity rather than temporarily and incompletelly satisfied by following passing things.
You want sex, food, commodities? God is better and more fulfilling than each. The Desert fathers did happily without any of these.
You want riches? You will have actual STARS wowen into your fuvking jacket, anything you might want you will have or simply Make by Divine power.
You want knowledge? You will be Exalted in the presence of the Lord, no secrets will remain.
Are you ambitious? You serve God Well in the small things, He will give you GREAT things to attend to. He gave you the nature of earth in stewardship. You will have Galaxies in stewardship.
You want the glory of battle and war? You will have it in the Battle of Armageddon.
The one thing He asks is that You recognize His authority. Not simply in the sense that He made you but in the sense that He defeated Death for you. You're His, by right of conquest.
Life denying my fat ass. You may believe His promises or not; but what He promises is the Fulfilling of all you are and all you're meant to be, not your extinction.

[Anonymous No.13998321]

>>13997749

[Anonymous No.13998333]

The world as Will and representation
Meditations on the tarot (anonymous author)

[Anonymous No.13998417]

Now I don't actually know anything about philosophy, but I remember my middle school English teacher telling us the Sartre quote "Hell is other people" and reading about that line's meaning, and the plot of No Exit, I feel there are many parallels to Evangelion, especially the spiel about the different versions of the self that exist and one of the main themes of the show being the hedgehog's dilemma. The fact that instrumentality is the breakdown of all people's AT fields, which just represent the barriers that people place around themselves, and everyone gets merged as one in a kind of paradise, free from the worldly "hell" of other people. Then Shinji is able to realize the value in relationships despite the pain that they inevitably bring, love himself, and is able to pull himself out of instrumentality. And we learn that anyone can exit instrumentality if they are able to picture themselves in their hearts. Just thoughts from a layperson, feel free to call me retarded. But these kinds of ideas are interesting to me, clearly there are works of literature that deal with these themes so I was just wondering what would be some good entry level reading to do.

[Anonymous No.13999328]

>>13997749
god isn't real, returning to nothing is what you really mean by eternal life

[Anonymous No.13999482]

>>13997749
cringe

[Anonymous No.13999550]

>>13998417
https://wiki.evageeks.org/Tributes_to_Other_Fiction_in_Neon_Genesis_Evangelion

The influences of eva seems very eclectic. I know Childhoods End, and Gerry Anderson shows inspired a lot of the visuals, but as for philosophy which explores the notion of the self in relation to other people, I would find it hard pin down one particular author. I assume it's a perennial question. Freud would be a good place to start I suppose.

Your interpretation of the show's themes seems accurate to me

[Anonymous No.13999617]

>>13988861
There's a lot of academic literature on Evangelion so you can start with some of that. Just search scholar.google.com for 'evangelion.' Read this in particular https://digitalcommons.wou.edu/honors_theses/91/

[Anonymous No.14000088]

>>13988861
Sartre, Lacan, or any of their contemporary fanboys. Though I definitely agree with >>13988884 in that these things aren't necessary.

>>13997749
>Eternal life is the most "life affirming"
Saying that eternal life is the best life-affirming idea because it uses eternity is like saying that Zeus is the best god to believe in because he's really big and strong; it degrades theological discourse into a matter of "my dad is bigger than your dad," when what the real most life-affirming idea would affirm, is what life actually is: not eternal. Even if there is a god, his experience is undoubtedly worlds apart from your own. Even from a religious perspective, how can a timelessly all-seeing god possibly experience phenomena like blind faith? There are upsides to not being god, and it's on these grounds which eva rejects idols and instrumentality.

[Anonymous No.14001135]

>>13993697
ANNO: I say critical things towards otaku, but I don’t reject them. I only say that we should take a step back and be self-conscious about these things. I think it’s perfectly fine so long as you act with an awareness of what you are doing, self-conscious and cognizant of the current situation. I’m just not sure it’s a good thing to reach the point where you cut yourself off from society. I don’t understand the greatness of society, either. So I have no intention of going so far as to call for people to give up otaku-like things and become more suited to society. Only, I think there are many other interesting things in the world, and we don’t have to reject them.
However, I take offense when otaku are criticized by non-otaku. Stupid idiots, I think, [criticizing] though you don’t understand anything (laughs). There are truly many people who don’t seem to really understand. I know these things without being lectured to by these people. It’s like, why now? But saying those things are still better. There are many who completely missed the mark. When people don’t even try to understand speak about otaku as though they were far above them, I think: what stupid people.
>>13988861
I’ve spent 2 years working on an analysis of evangelion that has yet to come out. There’s nothing you need to read other than to watch the show with the knowledge that everything is meaningful. The religious symbols back themes that would have been in the show even if not backed by the symbols, which is why Anno calls them pedantry, since they do complicate the themes (but it in a significant way, in my opinion). Pay attention to parallels and motifs between scenes to understand their significance. If you truly want to understand eva, then you have to go through the pain of realizing what the show says about yourself — the lines in instrumentality where shinji gets blamed for his flaws before all of the other characters get blamed for the same flaws are crucial for intuiting the true meaning of eva. Also, stay away from most analyses, most of them are wrong or are very limited in expressing the full significance of what’s analyzed

[Anonymous No.14001154]

>>14001135
On second thought, analyses of eva are helpful, but you need to be skeptical of how the people analyzing it intentionally ignored certain details to keep themselves from getting hurt. Evageeks for instance is full of self loathing people who obsess over the relatively insignificant aspects of the series when the series itself creates a commentary that our obsession with worldly understanding is merely us trying to escape from what’s truly important, our relationships with each other.
You can also watch anno’s love and pop, in some ways it’s a thematic successor to eva and even uses some of the same symbology (instrumentality, LCL) without explaining it, so it’s best understood by watching eva beforehand.

[Anonymous No.14001186]

>>13995203
Lain overtly shares some of the same themes as eva. It’s an incredible show but I still have to place eva above due to its sincerity, which allows it to directly reach truths of love and compassion, as opposed to just criticizing modernity.
>>13989129
This is somewhat there. The commentary is that the characters used different means of escaping from the self, or facing who they truly are. SEELE explicitly do it through abusing religion, whereas Kensuke does it by idolizing shinji as a pilot, in the same way he fantasizes about being a soldier, while continually ignoring his depression even though Shinji makes it obvious he’s self loathing to an extreme.

[Anonymous No.14001457]

>>13992763
>>13992817

[Anonymous No.14001466]

>>13992817
>>14001457
It's more than a reference... it's one of the central themes of the show... have you faggots even watched it?

[Anonymous No.14001467]

>>13988861
The bible

[Anonymous No.14002371]

>>14001466
People hurt by the show’s themes and relating to shinji react to it this way to justify their self loathing. Sounds overly dramatic for an anime, but I know people who’ve attempted suicide and became depressed for years because of this show, then tried to blast it 24/7

[Anonymous No.14002377]

>>14002371
It is weird how it has this effect, I felt amazing the day after I watched EoE and the day after that I crashed mentally for about 10 days, total utter despair.

[Anonymous No.14002419]

>>14002377
sorry to hear about that anon, how do you feel now?
it also backs the show's themes, if you consider it claims that we avoid each other to avoid facing who we truly are since we understand ourselves in relation to each other. since NGE is just an allegory for anno's entire life, one's self would be reflected by the show, and their reaction to it would show how they feel about themselves

[Anonymous No.14003030]

>>13994028
very interesting, thanks for sharing this

[Anonymous No.14003062]

>>14002419
Oh a lot better now, thank you for asking.. It was just those 10 days. I think part of it was I was so impressed by Evangelion, it completely overawed me and I couldn't see how any of my work could touch those highs. It was one those mad "gazing at the sublime" moments that the Romantics used to write essays and essays on. I'm over it now.

[Anonymous No.14003541]

>>13994028
This guy gets it wrong. The whole point is Gendo, SEELE, shinji, most of the angels, and all of the characters (save for Rei who has no agency of her own) want the same outcome of destroying humanity. The only reason they don’t realize they share the same goal is due to their inability to communicate with each other. There’s no morality to what they’re doing, it’s just that they want to stop suffering from the “other”

[Anonymous No.14003545]

>>14003062
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. There was a famous artist, the guy who did Kanye’s album covers, who also attempted suicide after finishing eva for the same reason. I’ve also been working on a video about eva trying to imitate anno’s directing style and that’s been insanely stressful due to how incredible anno’s directing is... I keep restarting the editing process because I’m unhappy with how it turns out

[Anonymous No.14003681]

>>13997073
>The man who made sailor moon good

[Anonymous No.14003702]

>>13999328
>god isn't real,
You can't read. I'm talking about the idea of Eternal life not about the existance of anything and this was expicitly states múltiple times.
>>14000088
hmmm no sweety we're discussing the logical consequences of the ideas and promises of a certain kind of religious conception (Eternal life). If you get to stay in communion with the alpha and omega of the universe after death, there is no logical way the experience can be boring, statical etc since God is not like Zeus which is a limited being.
>when what the real most life-affirming idea would affirm, is what life actually is: not eternal.
You're litteraly changing the definition of life to get a small rhetoric shot. In no way It's implied in the concept of life that it has to end; as a matter of fact it only ever ends due to external factors the body can't handle; which clearly means that death is an accident of life.

[Anonymous No.14003726]

>>13988861
Being and Nothingness. Anno based his work of the final episodes of the TV show from the main arguments Sartre makes in the book.

[Anonymous No.14003854]

>>14003681
But sailor moon is awful

[Anonymous No.14003867]

>>14003854
You're awful, Murray

[Anonymous No.14003884]

>>14003867
No u
LGBT propaganda from the '90s is still LGBT propaganda and nothing more.
Fuck Cuntena btw.

[Anonymous No.14003931]

>>13994046
>For Shinji is not, like the Sweet Danish Prince, a master ironist who steals the quill from his author's hands and writes his own play; rather the boy resigns his will to the sadistic never ending flow of the penstrokes. Here Evangelion is most distinctly haunted by Kafka, that Writer-Trickster herald of Anxiety, surely the most original of all major twentieth century writers, leaving aside Stevens at his most Apocalyptic. And it is with Apocalypse that this Great Work is primarily occupied. Not the Apocalypse of the Book of Revelation, which so influenced the inimitable Dante, but the Apocalypse of Freud. Freud, more prophet than physician, invented the metaphor of the libido, (which, like all metaphors, is partly a deception), the particular energy that fuels sexual desire and our Will to Live. Its antithesis, Thanatos, the death drive, is a concept that Freud entertained but feared too much to explore. The former can be witnessed within Evangelion in the radiant image of fiery-headed Asuka, a forceful figure of femininity, the adolescent poetic heir to Shakespeare's fearsome Cleopatra. Like her Egyptian foremother, Asuka's rage is a channel for her delight in the world's splendour and ugliness. She is one who rises to meet life and gleefully returns its scorn when the time calls for it. She steals the narrative from under the nose of her opposing force, Shinji, squire of Thanatos, and fashions her own place within it, becoming the self proclaimed protagonist of a story never told.
>Alas, her creator is no Shakespeare: Sad Anno cannot contain a universe within himself and so cannot conceal himself from our gaze . He, like my dear Hart Crane, has sounded his Whitmanesque yawp out into the void and found its echo slight and wanting. His failure is his clay, from which he has fashioned his Monument to the New Century.

[Anonymous No.14003987]

>>13988861
Gravity's Rainbow

[Anonymous No.14003994]

>>13989159
Katje is Asuka

[Anonymous No.14004012]

>>13989159
Rei is Ilse

[Anonymous No.14004029]

>>13997159
I bet you watch anime for the plot

[Anonymous No.14004550]

>>14003931
He really was a joke wasn't he?

[Anonymous No.14004589]

>>14003702
>hmmm no sweety
hmmm no sweety life isn't eternal, sorry about that

[Anonymous No.14004668]

>>14004589
>DUUUUUUURRRRRR HUUUUUUURRRRRR I CAMT ADDRESS THE AAAAARGYMRRREEEBYTTTTRR BRRRRREE

[Anonymous No.14004809]

>>14004668
>AAAAARGYMRRREEEBYTTTTRRBRRRRREE
Ahahahahaha wtf are you trying to say in this post

[Anonymous No.14004857]

>>13988861
https://wiki.evageeks.org/Main_Page

[Anonymous No.14004865]

>>14004809
That you can't fucking read.

[Anonymous No.14004869]

>>14002371
>>14002377
i used to watch episodes 25-26 and EoE when i was highly suicidal (not because of the show), it calmed me down, it made me feel understood, even if by fictional people, like i wasn't 100% alone.
it doesn't have that effect anymore because i don't feel that way anymore but i still enjoy it a lot, it's my favourite tv show.

[Anonymous No.14004877]

>>13995203
>and watch Lain instead
Wrong Abe show

[Anonymous No.14005663]

>>14004869
Thanks for sharing anon. Yeah, one of the most life-affirming aspects of the show is how it feels like Anno understands us, as well as the course his life took from the show, where he became a legendary artist and managed to find love, even though people hated him for speaking the truth

[Anonymous No.14005767]

>>13995203
im watching the trailer drunk and the page is glitched no matter how many times i refresh.
spoooky..
:0

[Anonymous No.14005803]

>>14002377
I was a nervous wreck after the last few episodes and movie, and called in sick to work for 2 (maybe 3) days. I was already an alcoholic, but I drank pretty heavily during and after. I was writing shit on my arms with sharpie, bursting into tears randomly.
That was a long time ago, but I still think about it because I've never felt that way before or after. NGE wasn't the cause, but it certainly pushed me over the edge.
Im never going to go to a shrink, but I've always wondered what they would say if I just spilled the entire beans about it to them.

[Anonymous No.14006291]

>>14004877
>Despera never

[Anonymous No.14006335]

>>14005803
Wow I thought only I could be this autistic after I started cutting myself after playing Doki Doki Literature Club.

[Anonymous No.14006519]

>>14006291
>In 2018, Yoshitoshi ABe and Chiaki J. Konaka said the reason Despera is in development hell isn't due to the lack of funds, but because of the current state of the anime industry.[5]
ABe is too good for this world

[Anonymous No.14006521]

[Anonymous No.14006529]

>>14006521
explain

[Anonymous No.14006545]

>>14006529
Logo from the show. The line is from a Robert Browning poem

[Anonymous No.14006719]

>>13994091
How do you know?

[Anonymous No.14006728]

[Anonymous No.14006733]

>>14004668
>>14004865
>DUUUUUUURRRRRR HUUUUUUURRRRRR MY ARGUMENT IS THAT LIFE ACTUALLY BEING ETERNAL IS TOTALLY BESIDES THE POINT BECAUSE LYING TO YOURSELF IS OKAY, EXCEPT ACTUALLY I REALLY DO THINK ITS ETERNAL AND JUST DON'T WANT TO OWN UP TO IT BECAUSE MY BELIEFS HAVE BEEN ERODED TO THE POINT OF ME NO LONGER EVEN HAVING FAITH IN THE FUCKING FEDORA MEME OF ALL THINGS, LET ALONE GOD
hear you loud and clear anon

[Anonymous No.14006739]

>>13988869
Unironically this

[Anonymous No.14006790]

>>13988861
>>13988884
This. Eva's virtue is that for what it weights of content is the characters as their interior conflicts. How is that you understand what the series is, is through the dialogue between yourself and the character's self, specially Shinji's. You see, the world that is, of what they attempt to make it be is how they see the world and how they want it to be. For what purpose they find themselves redefining the world, it is made on the base of relationships between people. The world is how the world appears to as when we consider how we relate, isolate, ourselves from the world that is the others. The take on life, as in the take instrumentality, is the take on how we procede on a world when we are drag to live between the string of closeness and departness, as for we as human are condemned to social needs. The conflict, the proximity that we struggle, impacts ourselves as we continually actualize our identity in regard of how are we percieved (that is how we think we are percieved). And the paradox goes on because of what we see ourselves to be get inflicted on what we think we are seen, as if our being gets melted on the idea of us that others have. So we escape to reconstruct us, or we submit, our we make the world submit in order to make in Act the potency of our being we attempt to construct. Anyway we must return to others, and there lies the paradox, that we make the idea of us in isolation but as a reaction to the outside world.

[Anonymous No.14006810]

>>14006733
No, as usual you only hear what you want to hear and are trying to psychoanalize my from a couple of posts Because fuvking addressing the points as presented is a litteral unbearable burden to you. Don't worry tho.
God loves you anyway :)

[Anonymous No.14007045]

>>14006719
>>14003931

[Anonymous No.14007051]

>>14005803
>>14006728

How do you think she comes?

[Anonymous No.14007081]

>>14005803
I watched Eva and EoE at 14 and ever since then i feel like my mind has shifted somehow

[Anonymous No.14007096]

>>14006335
>Doki Doki Literature Club
Hope you find the strength to finish the deed.

[Anonymous No.14007452]

>>14007051
Hollering and panting as she feels it growing, growing GROWING
Then sudden silence, an adorable little whimper as she bites her lip, her eyes closed as though exercising a tremendous effort.
Then finally she relaxes, trembles a bit into your arms, finally satisfied and tamed. She refuses to let you go, wanting to cuddle, to finally let herself be vulnerable with someone.

[Anonymous No.14007454]

>>14007081
How old are you, 15?

[Anonymous No.14007488]

>>14007452
Feel like that describes Rei better,Asuka is probably a loud coomer

[Anonymous No.14007518]

You're all stupid children come prostrate yourself before the superior Studio Gainax work.

[Anonymous No.14007532]

>>14007488
Rei wouldn't fucking whimper she would stare you dead in the eyes the whole time. When she comes (You could only really tell from the muscles surrounding your prick tightening) she would just whisper "that...was pleasant." And then immediately get up to give Akagi your sperm sample she asked her for which is the only reason you even ever fucked.

[Anonymous No.14007753]

>>14007532
I don't think that Rei would just lie there. She'd probably breathe/moan shallowly, have a soft smile and occasionally close her eyes because of the pleasure. She isn't an emotionless shell despite what most say.

Asuka would either fuck you like a tiger or lay there all catatonic, as it is common with girls with similar pasts like hers.

[Anonymous No.14007978]

>>13988861
Read the animated mecha works that came before it like Raideen, Gundam, Ideon, Macross, Mazinger, Space Battleship Yamato etc.

[Anonymous No.14008181]

>>14007518
>pic unrelated
Yeah, yeah, they should all watch Gunbuster!

[Anonymous No.14008521]

>>14007488
>ANTAAAAAAAAAAA I'M BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[emonationalist !!HxQhKkNYVzK No.14008526]

Wikipedia articles about Freud.
That's basically it.

[Anonymous No.14008690]

>>14007753
>I don't think that Rei would just lie there. She'd probably breathe/moan shallowly, have a soft smile and occasionally close her eyes because of the pleasure. She isn't an emotionless shell despite what most say.
Ok, she's not my cup of tea but you're being .
>Asuka would either fuck you like a tiger or lay there all catatonic, as it is common with girls with similar pasts like hers.
Asuka would surely fuck you like a Tiger If you let her, But then after the fact would lose all interest. The whole of her arc is that she wants, needs someone with whomst to lay down the façade and just being her poor traumatized self with; But Shinji is too much of a fucking autist to understand this untill It's too late.
Asuka wants to be tamed. She wants someone to pass the enormous fucking shit-test that her existance IS.

[Anonymous No.14008704]

>>14008690
*you are being convincing.

[Anonymous No.14008811]

>>14008521

Can someone with an adequate voice make a vocaroo of this? With the intro playing in the background or whatever.

[Anonymous No.14009298]

Rei > Asuka

[Anonymous No.14009623]

Sometimes, I wish I never knew Eva. The other times, I wish I never lived to begin with.