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Can anyone recommend a compilation of essential philosophical, political, and economic texts or at least direct me to a list? I'm having fuckall luck trying to search for such a thing, much less so something that doesn't abridge, summarize, or otherwise fuck up the material. I'm reading pic related at the moment, paying attention to the included 36 pages of translator's notes discussing the nuances and context of the original Greek that don't translate well.

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>>14189196
what the hell

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>> No.14189226

>>14189196
>>14189201
What is this and how did they choose what to include? Also page 313, mane.

>> No.14189242

>>14189201
Hol' up. The Republic in six pages?

>> No.14189290

>>14189189
>>14189196
>>14189201
I lost count on how many jewish authors were in there, holy shit. Republics are trash anyway. There is only IMPERIUM

>> No.14189315

>>14189189
Here's my personal philosophy list
Plato / Aristotle
Epicurus / Plotinus
Cicero / Boethius
Augustine / Aquinas
Montaigne / Bacon
Hobbes / Pascal
Descartes / Spinoza / Leibniz
Locke / Hume
Berkeley / Burke
Montesquieu / Voltaire / Tocqueville
Rousseau / Paine
Kant / Hegel / Schoppenhaur
Fichte / Schelling
Jay / Marx / Hitler / Rand
Emerson / Thoreau
Mill / James
Stirner / Kierkegaard / Nietzsche
Whitehead / Gueon

>> No.14189889

>>14189189
Allan Bloom’s translation of Plato’s Republic

Harvey Mansfield’s Students Guide to Political Philosophy

Leo Strauss’s Natural Right and History

Alexandre Kojeve’s Introduction to the reading of Hegel

Leo Strauss’s On Tyranny with the Alexandre Kojeve correspondence

Francis Fukuyama’s Identity

>> No.14190848

Try Nick Land.

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Check out the table of contents on this fella.

>> No.14192343

>>14190889
I mean, it's a list of names. Do you recommend that as a good read for an overview before possibly reading individual texts mentioned within? I'm skimming through it and it looks a bit more academic than I'd like.

>> No.14192400

>>14192343

To be honest, I haven't read it yet, but I think it looks good.

Also, you may not know this, but Strauss is a controversial thinker. He taught that many of the great thinkers of the past concealed teachings that could have gotten them in trouble had they been straightforwardly expressed. His detractors have extrapolated from this the idea that Strauss had some secret teachings antithetical to modern values which he communicated cryptically or to a select few through oral discourse.

>essential philosophical, political, and economic texts

Histories of economic thought tend to be self-contained. Political philosophy is also treated in isolation much of the time.
Are you just looking for some overview of thought through the ages? Do you want excerpts from primary sources?
I don't really know what you're looking for.

>> No.14192448

>>14192400
>overview of thought through the ages? Do you want excerpts from primary sources?
I guess yes. I have one college course each of philosophy, political science, and economics, but not in such a way that it really stuck (apart from such ethical analysis techniques as utilitarianism and broadly ideas of state of nature, social contract and such). I want the breadth but I don't want someone's interpretation of the material. So my thought was I'd find a compilation of or separately part out a bunch of important texts, knowing which to go for. A list like The Republic, The Prince, The Wealth of Nations, A Treatise of Human Nature, Das Kapital, Utilitarianism/An Introduction to the Principles of Morals and Legislation, etc. The problem is I don't know how to continue filling out the list, what to focus on, or how to find a good compilation if one exists.

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Schumpeter's History of Economic Analysis is great, but expensive and hard to find. Your academic library might have copy though.
Probably more than what you're after, but worth dipping into if not read in full.

Here's what the first two chapters look like.

>> No.14192938

>>14192448
So I tried sifting through writers and paring down works. How is this?

Plato
Nicomachean Ethics, Aristotle
The Prince, Machiavelli 1532
Essays, Bacon 1597-1625
Discourse on the Method, Descartes 1637
Leviathan, Hobbes 1651
An Essay Concerning Human Understanding, Locke 1689
Two Treatises of Government, Locke 1689
A Treatise of Human Nature, Hume 1739
The Spirit of the Laws, Montesquieu 1748
Discourse on Inequality, Rousseau 1754
The Social Contract, Rousseau 1762
The Theory of Moral Sentiments, Smith 1759
The Wealth of Nations, Smith 1776
Common Sense, Paine 1775
Rights of Man, Paine 1791
The Age of Reason, Paine 1794-1807
Critiques, Kant 1781-1790
The Federalist, Hamilton Madison Jay 1787
An Introduction to the Principles of Morals and Legislation, Bentham 1789
The Philosophy of Right, Hegel 1820
A System of Logic, Mill 1843
Principles of Political Economy, Mill 1848
On Liberty, Mill 1859
Utilitarianism, Mill 1863
The Communist Manifesto, Marx Engels 1848
Das Kapital, Marx 1867-1894
Nietzsche

Is there a compilation of Plato that has the dedication of Bloom's translation of The Republic?

>> No.14193080

>>14189889
kys

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>> No.14193889

>>14189189
Unless you are specifically interested in history of philosophy or otherwise trying to be a professional academic or you just like reading things, this would be a waste time.

Just look up Plato's Republic and Nicomachean Ethics on sparknote or whatever summery website you can find on google and you would be ready to read philosophy. Now you can start looking up topics that actually interests you on https://scholar.google.com/ or PhilPapers[make sure things you read are written by academics, not some internet edgelord on this]. If you don't know what you are reading or feel like missing any context, search for the topic on https://plato.stanford.edu/ and read through it. Use citation on paper or SEP article to look up background and context as necessary. Look up who cited to the paper you are reading on google scholar to see what other academics are think about it etc.

>> No.14193953

>>14193889
>Plato's Republic [...] on sparknote
Dude, Socratic dialogues are genuinely entertaining.

>> No.14194064

>>14189315
A list of names, very helpful.

>> No.14194723

>>14189290
Rome is a degenerate shithole and a precursor to modern day America.

t. Greecefag

>> No.14194737

>>14189290
Anti-semites are unironic retards

>> No.14194782

This is good. althou the specific works are not outlined.

>>14189189
Also, on the political/economic part (think people may be skimping this part for the philo only), Id recommend reading period documentaion for the major steps so you can get the "feel" of the mental development in practice. Ancient shit might be harder to get, but you can read a medieval guild charter (also John of Salisbury/ Policraticus), the charter for the Dutch east india company, Magna carta, etc. You can see the evolution of Aristotilian political forms leading up to the Hobbesian one.

Nicomedian Ethics

Baldus de Ubaldis

Some medieval guild chater (idea of positive rights, Power is given directly from soverign and is an extension of soverign power.

Dutch East india company charter

Hobbes elements of law

I could go on if you feel like it. Not going to make a full syllabus if noone feels like it.

>> No.14195849

>>14189189
read pic related and his teacher, Leo Strauss. There is literally no one like him interpreting classical text.

>> No.14196069

>>14189315
>Hitler

Lmao retard

>> No.14196109

>>14194737
Jews hate you anon. They want to destroy everything pure and beautiful in this world. Literally the only reason to ever read a Jew author is from a "know your enemy" perspective. Which is why I read Marx.

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Philosophic Classics: From Plato to Derrida

>> No.14196398

>>14196387
These "history of philosophy" books need to stop already. Good god imagine putting Plato in the same volume as Derrida and then still acting like a publisher of any repute