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Was he the smartest writer of his time?

>> No.14213273

yes

>> No.14213285

>>14213258
>>14213273
What's so good about him?

T. never read any of his works

>> No.14213598

>>14213285
He has an enormous amount of knowledge, also his prose is pretty fine. Read Foucaults Pendulum

>> No.14213618

>>14213285
hes kinda hard to get into at first just due to the sheer amount of very high-end descriptions, at least thats what is the case with the name of the rose, havent read anything else by him

but its totally worth it in the end

>> No.14213682

>>14213285
just watch name of the rose starring sean connery. really makes you appreciate aristotle and it worships wisdom. it's also very comfy for /lit/

>> No.14213705

>>14213258
No, friends called him Dumberto Eco

>> No.14213833

>>14213285
He wrote a novel about /pol/

>> No.14213860

I've read Ur-Fascismo
>hurr everybody fascist but me

>> No.14213961

Name of the Rose is very comfy

>> No.14214087

>>14213258
>>14213285
>>14213598
>he has an enormous amount of knowledge
This. Italians have published a volume by Umberto Eco entitled "Writings on Medieval thought". It's over 1300 pages. I was pretty flabbergasted when I first saw it.

>> No.14214156

>>14213258
Wasn't he just another jewish brick?

>> No.14214172

>>14214087
lord save me from the inane 1300 page ramblings of an italian neckbeard.

>> No.14214197

>>14213833
Which one?
Pendulum?

>> No.14214202

He was smart enough to mash up american pragmatism, medieval philosophy and post-structutalism and come up with a very interesting kind of semiotics. His novels and mass media studies are a direct consequence of his theoric tought

>> No.14214216

>>14213258
Incredible mind, very creative, one of the few good literary critics and overall an extremely knowledgeable man.
Nobody knew the Middle Ages like him. He'll be missed

>> No.14214240

>>14213705
lel

>> No.14214365

His art historical works are quite good. He's very good at compiling works of different eras

>> No.14214470

>>14214197
Prague Cemetery

>> No.14214763

Reading his work demonstrates the limitations of mere erudition.

>> No.14215092

>>14214763
What do you mean by that anon? Elaborate

>> No.14216373

>>14213285
Foucault's Pendulum and Name of the Rose are the comfiest novels I have ever read. High IQ Italians are top tier humans.

>> No.14216508

>>14216373
>>14213598
I read Foucault's Pendulum this summer and I loved it. It's great especially if you get most of the references on the spot.

>> No.14217346
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>>14216508
Is it hard to enjoy the book while missing a lot of the references? I can't say that I'm too widely read.

>> No.14217516

>>14214172
Nu uh you gon get it

>> No.14217543

>>14217346
It's hard for me to tell, but I think you can enjoy it still. When I didn't get something, I looked it up, so I would say do that. You might be able to enjoy it all the same because some stuff is explained anyway, and other things, despite being referential, still have a function they play within the framework of the story, whether or not you get the reference.

>> No.14217584

>>14217543
Thanks for the tip. what type of references are used?

>> No.14217620

should i read on ugliness? ive been enjoying the idea of embracing and recognizing a need in the "ugliness" and "rougher edges" of life and the world and want this validated or at least externalized a bit more

>> No.14217622

when you read this guy's nonfiction you start to realise that taleb is just ripping off eco's prose and forcing mandelbrot thought into it

>> No.14217628

>>14213258
he's a midwit wanker
>dumping wikipedia references like a sperg high on adhd meds makes you smart
is that all it takes to impress you? fuck off.

>> No.14217636

>>14217628
also inb4
>hurr durr they didn't have wikipedia back then
no fucking shit

>> No.14217706

>>14214087
>This. Italians have published a volume by Umberto Eco entitled "Writings on Medieval thought". It's over 1300 pages. I was pretty flabbergasted when I first saw it.

link

>> No.14217720

>>14213258
Im about 100 pages into Foucaults pendulum, its a bit boring so far and read like a wikipedia article with all the references.

>> No.14217732

>>14217720
>Im about 100 pages into Foucaults pendulum,

the book doesn´t get good for first time reading until the main character goes from brazil back to his home country (italy) so be patient

>> No.14217737

>>14217543
I don't get why the chapters are named after parts of the Kabbalah

>> No.14217749

>>14217732
OK, I'll keep at it, it's not bad. Just kind of sometimes feel like I'm forcing my way through it.

>> No.14218006

>>14213258

I just finished Baudolino. It contains, without a doubt, the worst sex scene of any novel I have ever read in my entire life. I would say it's worse than at least 50% of my little pony fanfiction as well.

Let me quote some choice lines.

>She put his hands under here dress, she ran her fingers over the hair on his chest. She moved closer, to nuzzle him. "You are filled with grass, good grass," she said. Then she said further: "How beautiful you are underneath here, soft like a young animal...are you young?" "I am young, my love, I am just born"
>He was now stroking her hair and almost with violence he placed his hands behind her nape. She began giving him little flicks of her tongue on his face, licking him as if he were a kid...
>Her mouth tasted of peaches, apricots, and with her tongue she gave his tongue little jabs, as she tasted it for the first time.
>she saw his member, touched it with her fingers, felt that it was alive and said that she wanted it. Clearly she didn't know how or why she wanted it, but some power of the woods or the streams was prompting her, telling her what she should do.

That's not even it. The worst part, after these lines, is some straight up /d/ material, but I won't mention it here because it's a bit of a spoiler.

That being said, the rest of Baudolino was nice. Wasn't a huge fan of the fantasy elements and prefer the knowledge/mystery/history-heavier Name of the Rose and Foucault's Pendulum. I read Name of the Rose when I was 17 and I thought the sex scene in it was fine (in the kitchen near the end). But maybe that's only because I was 17.

>> No.14218040

>>14218006
>Rose when I was 17 and I thought the sex scene in it was fine (in the kitchen near the end).

it was very abstract from what i remember, i read it when i was 19 lol

>> No.14218075

>>14213258
No, Borges was. Eco wanted to be Borges but didn't succeed.

>> No.14218087

>>14218006
>"You are filled with grass, good grass,"

LMAO

Its weird how bad good writers are at writing sex, they forget to just be as debased and blunt, filthy as possible. They forget to just be a good dirty talker.

>> No.14218091

>>14218006

That is terrible.

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>>14218087
yes, RAW knew how to please his audience

>> No.14218160

>>14217346
It's enjoyable, but I wish an annotated version existed
The Island of the Day Before needs one even more btw

>> No.14218166

>>14218142
is that a ring with one of these pizza gate symbols?

>> No.14218176

>>14218075
I dont think Eco wanted to be Borges, they are very different

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>>14218166
highly doubt it, seems more like one of those objects hippies wore back in the day, psychodelia aesthetics if you will

>> No.14218202

>>14218195
psychodelic*

>> No.14218221

>>14213258
he had a massive brain, but he wasn't the best

>> No.14218227

>>14218221
who is the best?