Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.14301731]

[Anonymous No.14301771]

>>14301731
>Dr Castle, literally a self publish book from an /r9k/ poster
I think I will pass

[Anonymous No.14301818]

cringe

[Anonymous No.14301985]

well the table of contents looks promising at least

[Anonymous No.14301998]

>>14301731
>>14301985
based

[Anonymous No.14302013]

>>14301985
holy based

[Anonymous No.14302035]

>>14301731
Where did this doctor get his degree from?

[Anonymous No.14302054]

I'm not reading it since it's not on libgen

[Anonymous No.14302058]

Sending this to Better than Food for review

[Anonymous No.14302178]

>>14301731
>>14301985
Post pdf

[Anonymous No.14302187]

>>14302035
Ten years of experience of posting on 4chan

[Anonymous No.14302226]

>>14301731
going to buy it thanks.

[Anonymous No.14302248]

even though i am willing to compromise my morals, i cannot find the book for free
im just gonna post random info/blurbs i found
>"This is an important and timely book into the social problem of male inceldom. These days it seems that almost everyone has a view on what it means to be an "incel" and why these sexless men behave the way they do. The irony is that very little of this debate is informed sincerely with scientific data or by what these men have to say. This engaging book takes an in-depth look at three contemporary issues – lookism, romantic satisfaction, and modern dating – by exploring how incel men experience them in a variety of circumstances. The book draws on qualitative and quantitative data as well as addressing a theory of social interaction, which is branded The Blackpill. It demonstrates the importance of developing an empirically informed approach to men’s societal experiences based on an understanding of the significance of physical attractiveness. It will be invaluable to researchers in sociology and gender studies, as well as professionals concerned with men’s health."
author bio:
>"Considering the "toxic" material, Dr. Castle publishes under a pseudonym. Born in California and raised in Ohio, the writer received his doctoral degree in the social sciences. Dr. Castle is currently a professor and lives in New Orleans, Louisiana with a chubby orange cat. "The Blackpilll Theory: why incels are right & you are wrong" is the first published book by the author. Dr. Castle has a second published piece, "Instagram is My Religion"™, scheduled to be released in 2020. When not writing books or teaching, you can find Dr. Castle surfing along the Pacific Ocean, biking in the French Quarter, or traveling (usually with raucous friends) the world."

[Anonymous No.14302261]

>>14302248
>Florida
>When not teaching can be found surfing the pacific.

Ok.

[Anonymous No.14302293]

Sounds neat. Nice to support independent scholarship outside the correctthink fagbox of sanitized academia and "journalism." Will probably buy it and post about it here if it's decent.

I hope it's decent. This sort of publication used to be a whole subset of the fifth estate, a vital aspect of print culture and the public sphere and so forth. It needs to come bac, but this will depend on a reading public willing to put the time and effort in to take it seriously, and even more importantly, on authors willing to work 5x as hard as a conventional academic to make sure they're producing something really good.

It's funny, I was just thinking today: Imagine if mainstream sociology weren't dominated by normie ideology, and people were actually let loose to study sociological dynamics that are objectively real and objectively interesting, purely on that basis. The result would obviously be a whole range of studies of "inceldom," slut culture, hypergamy, etc. The very fact that these don't exist is a strong testament to just how ideologically uniform and stagnant the social sciences are. Let's go back to the days of Durkheim, Simmel, Tonnies, Weber, Sombart.

>>14301771
You should head on over to Reddit. You can even click little buttons to say whether something is popular or not, based on whether other people already said it's popular or not.

[Anonymous No.14302306]

>>14301985
lmao I wonder if someone will actually profit off of shitposting irl

[Anonymous No.14302312]

>>14301731
I will not bother with this if the author is a virgin because it will just be pushing slave morality

[Anonymous No.14302349]

>>14301731
>>14301985
People really took that reddit meme seriously.

Fucking kill me.

[Anonymous No.14302359]

>>14301771
>Dr Castle, literally a self publish book from an /r9k/ poster
I think I have my Christmas reading.

[Anonymous No.14302374]

>>14301985
this is a textbook case of cringe but redpilled

[Anonymous No.14302388]

>>14301985
Um, based department? Hello?

[Anonymous No.14302433]

any material that is created as a result of engineered social division is cancer, whether it were written by a twitter leftist or channer

[Anonymous No.14302481]

>>14301985
This truly is a modern magnum opus

[Anonymous No.14302486]

>>14301985
holy based

[Anonymous No.14302496]

Probably reads like a collection of copy pasta,

[Anonymous No.14302510]

>>14302306
nietzsche did it

[Anonymous No.14302582]

retarded ideology
get over yourself

[Anonymous No.14302606]

>>14302293
>normie
hi normalfag

[Anonymous No.14302798]

>>14302433
Hot take. It looks like more fuel for the i.d pol fire. We need integration, not more division based on artificially imposed borders.
>>14302510
>life spent mostly alone
>mental breakdown
>work used to promote fascism
Idk.
>>14302582
Mmm. Its so sad. If virgins only new how wrongly they were looking at sex. Its no for the people having it. Its for the people who it can create.
>>14301731
The title speaks volumes. X is wrong, y is right. Spit out the damn fruit for G-d's sake. How long Lord? How long...

[Anonymous No.14302814]

>>14302035
Pornhub

[Anonymous No.14302924]

Appears to be a serious work. I'm glad.

Soon to join the canon of b&r outsider books from this sphere like Delicious Tacos' novels, F. Roger Devlin's stuff, Book of Pook, BAM's work, etc.

How does the left feel that the right is now "counterculture"? probably pretty bad huh.

[Anonymous No.14302941]

>>14302433
was inceldom engineered and if so, how?

[Anonymous No.14302998]

>>14301985
why liberals cannot stop saying black is good. blackpill black friday and all that are too positive.

[Anonymous No.14303010]

>>14302261
You're libeling Florida.

[Anonymous No.14303098]

>>14302941
Stem, economics and business.

[Anonymous No.14303572]

>>14302941
video games and anime

[Anonymous No.14303723]

>>14302924
Probably not at all. Normie leftists arent capable of seeing the big picture on culture and politics. Their ideology hinges on being antiestablishment, even when they are the establishment.

[Anonymous No.14303739]

>>14301985
>"The Importance of Being Tall" chapter is the third longest chapter in this entire shitpost
Kino if have I ever seen one

[Anonymous No.14303742]

>>14302248
>currently a professor and lives in New Orleans

Ignatius?

[Anonymous No.14303755]

>>14301731
>passive aggressive title
DROPPED

[Anonymous No.14303763]

>>14303755
What's passive about that?

[Anonymous No.14303768]

>>14303763
Passive aggressive is kind of subjective, I would describe anything not directly insulting passive aggressive. E.g. someone saying 'you're stupid' is aggressive 'you're wrong' is passive aggressive because it's presuming I'm wrong without even knowing my position, implying I am incapable of being right, presumably due to some defect on my part. It's passive aggressive because the implication (I can't be right) is pejorative while the explicit statement is harmless (I could be wrong).

[Anonymous No.14303860]

>>14302248
>Currently a professor
>This is his first published book
Not even trying to hide the lie

[Anonymous No.14303874]

>>14303860
Obviously it's his first book under the pseudonym

[Anonymous No.14303877]

>>14301985
looks based to me desu

[Anonymous No.14303880]

>>14301985
Dangerously based

[Anonymous No.14303882]

>>14303768
Your explanation is both wrong and stupid

[Anonymous No.14303891]

>>14301985
so based

[Anonymous No.14303895]

[Anonymous No.14303896]

Any specific chapter people want to see?

[Anonymous No.14303925]

Haven't read but it's most likely very good and important considering that the blackpill is probably the most relevant issue today.

[Anonymous No.14303933]

>>14303895

>Sigh.

I'm going to puke

[Anonymous No.14303948]

>>14302374
Seconding this post.

[Anonymous No.14303953]

>>14303895
>sigh
>YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO IMPROVE OR GIVE YOURSELF A CHANCE IN LIFE. DON'T TRY TO DO ANYTHING AT ALL
fuck off

[Anonymous No.14303957]

>>14303953
cope

[Anonymous No.14303964]

>>14303953
>YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO IMPROVE OR GIVE YOURSELF A CHANCE IN LIFE. DON'T TRY TO DO ANYTHING AT ALL
Correct.

[Anonymous No.14303965]

>>14303925
>against egalitarianism
>complains about injustice

[Anonymous No.14304011]

>>14303965
Exactly. This book seems to be an extension of muh systematic oppression to incels.
>>14303895
>>14303896
How are you viewing this book? I would like to see the last chapter to see how he likely dismisses any way to get out of "inceldom".

[Anonymous No.14304018]

>>14303895
>everything we've been told about romance, love and sex is wrong
What have we been told about all these things?

[Anonymous No.14304023]

[Anonymous No.14304026]

>>14303965
Equality is injustice on all levels. However, incels losing is justice, and thots losing is as well. They are both going extinct, exactly as planned.

[Anonymous No.14304028]

[Anonymous No.14304031]

[Anonymous No.14304032]

>>14304023
It hurts to read, alright.

[Anonymous No.14304211]

>>14303882
Thanks for refuting it.

[Anonymous No.14304284]

>>14301985
quite based indeed

[Anonymous No.14304303]

>>14303965
Egalitarianism doesn't mean justice. Incels are by no means inferior in anything beside looks, i.e any anarchist society would see the dissolution of both inceldom and feminism.

[Anonymous No.14304359]

>>14304028
Impressively well reasoned for an unbelievable lack of erudition and scientific background. I'll be honest, this book isn't for the literary or philosophical, it's a philosophical hand in the dark.

One random bio note to add, because it might help some people here that feel wronged: I'm a conventionally attractive (8/10) guy in NYC with a relatively prestigious job and active hobbies. Without dating apps, I have to actually go hit on people at the bar, and if I don't want to get drunk, then I can't meet anyone. All socializing groups that are semi-active for any intellectual stimulant are 70% male and 30% very unattractive female, and the females, if attractive, are hit on like sharks to fresh kill. This is equally about digitizing society as it is the death of monogamy.

[Anonymous No.14304380]

>>14304026
>incels losing is justice, and thots losing is as well. They are both going extinct
that's your problem. incels aren't equal to thots. you are thinking that the lower part of females is equal to males but it is not because of sexual selection and the habits of human mating.
humans breed by attracting and impressing the female so naturally a female is worth more than a man sexually. a man without sex is more desperate than a female without sex so women have sex easier than men thus getting the freedom of choice and picking who they want because many desperate men are lined in front of her and she can choose.
yeah it's cruel and unfair but that's how the human species became what it is and at least you are human. if you were an animal you would have gotten fucking mauled to death for being inferior, be a bit more grateful.

[Anonymous No.14304390]

>>14304380
Fuck animals and fuck humans.

[Anonymous No.14304396]

>>14304390
this is (You)

[Anonymous No.14304547]

>>14304031
Can you share it? It's not available on other amazon stores (amazon.fr).

[Anonymous No.14304633]

>>14301985
that genuinely looks like an epic read

[Anonymous No.14304639]

Just asked my girlfriend what her opinion on incels is and this is what she said

[Anonymous No.14304648]

>>14304639
Tell her incel #5896 says hello

[Anonymous No.14304662]

>>14304639
Wow, you two seem to have a really exciting rapport, I predict great things for your relationship

[Anonymous No.14304670]

>>14304211
Why word I bother refuting something so plainly incorrect. I wouldn't attempt to refute a child who claimed the sky was green, why would I bother to refute you?

[Anonymous No.14304689]

14304639
Dude an incel is just someone who can’t get laid. It’s bad enough for then as it is, the school shooter stereotype is just adding insult to injury. The vast majority of incels are harmless, while the demographics that commit most of the crime regardless if they are having sex or not we aren’t supposed to talk about, and that’s fucked up.

[Anonymous No.14304698]

>>14303965
No, it's an attempt to justify male supremacy. The femoids are parasites to be excised from the gene pool.

[Anonymous No.14304699]

>>14303723
>Normie
hi normalfag

[Anonymous No.14304700]

>>14304639
This is how my sister talks to me. Like a bratty kid.

This woman does not respect you

[Anonymous No.14304724]

>>14304700
That’s why I slap her ass and yank her hair while I pound with my 7 inch desu

[Anonymous No.14304726]

>>14304639
Women do tend to actually hate low-status men more than men tend to hate low-status women. Men make fun of fat, ugly, horsefaced women etc. all the time but they don't actively seethe against and despise them.

My question is the hatred women give to low- status men justified or just an extension of their status-seeking behavior? One could call it justified in the sense that women are defending themselves from Eliot Rodger murder sprees or against the horror of rape at the hands of a disgusting NTR antagonist I suppose. But on the other hand there is a kind of obscenity to their hate given the disparity in social capital between average woman and incel.

Basically, is this attitude bullying?

[Anonymous No.14304736]

>>14304726
Yes, of course it is.

[Anonymous No.14304739]

>>14304670
Because you bothered to engage, also thats a false analogy, colour is a qualia so if they child called the sky green I would simply tell the child that that colour is in fact blue, or I'd walk away. I wouldn't sneeringly say 'wow! wrong and stupid!'.
It seems like you lack the intellectual prowess to actually refute the point and are too insecure to attempt to.

[Anonymous No.14304749]

>one person uses 'incel' to mean 'person who wants to get laid but can't seem to manage to'
>other uses it to mean 'the kind of person that posts on incel.me'
>both pretend to not understand what the other person means for epic good boy points
I hate reruns

[Anonymous No.14304759]

>>14304736
I think so too but this is really where it gets interesting. Most arguments against incel activism point to the fact that incel politics are otherwise reactionary, that is, there is a contradiction in their calling for a relaxing of standards pertaining to female sexual preference and a simultaneous constriction of female sexual autonomy. I mean, I agree that female sexual autonomy should be restricted but not for the breakdown of standards. In this way incels don't really find common cause with either reactionaries or anti-bullying egalitarians.

[Anonymous No.14304803]

>>14304759
I think the problem is taking incel ideology as an actual ideology with principles, like a broad revolution reflected on in history books and stuff, when really it is more like a peasant revolt of specific demands for a specific group with specific interests.

[Anonymous No.14304806]

>>14304739
Do you seriously want me to waste time and bandwidth explaining why "You're wrong" doesn't implicitly mean "you are incapable of being right?"

[Anonymous No.14304812]

>>14304759
I agree. Very insightful. Incels are not likely going to excite the pity of progressives while advocating for reactionary politics. I didn’t get why they wouldn’t find common ground with the reactionaries though.

Liberated whamenz are a support pillar of the current progressivist power structure and their innate evolutionary repulsion towards low status men makes incels a demographic permitted for dehumanization.

How not to advocate for anti-progressivist politics if it’s a matter of simple survival for them?

[Anonymous No.14304823]

>>14302187
Hey, me too! I'm now unironically going to claim I have a doctorate in specialized internet communications.

[Anonymous No.14304831]

>>14304803
Yeah, contradiction and pathos. Not to be needlessly harsh to them but that's really what it comes down to. A cry for help! Or, is theirs a woman's cry for help? Men aren't generally afforded the kind of sympathy they want, it's actually (unironically) sad.

[Anonymous No.14304854]

>>14304812
Well they do find common ground with reactionaries but reactionaries tend to reject their behavior as feminine, weak, slave-like. /pol/ has just about always been violently hostile to formal inceldom and movements like MGTOW because they (accurately) see the incel moral system as leftish in it's call for acceptance and the breaking of standards. The prescription offered to incels by everyone from boomers to Nazis is "stop being a little bitch"

[Anonymous No.14304891]

>>14304831
yeah, one of the big problems with the incel movement is that the if you push hard enough, the eventual crux of their argument is this:
>if this continues on, a threshold will eventually be crossed where things fall apart. history is littered with revolutions and rebellions stemming from a group of angry, dissatisfied young males.
on the other hand, its hard to point fingers at them. that also is the whole crux of any egalitarian movement, such as more socialist measures
>if they rich keep getting richer, and the poor keep getting poorer, eventually the poor will eat the rich
its a cry that primarily operates via "but what about humanity?"
finally, the incel movement sees the continual success of the various feminism waves and thinks: "why cant we do that too?"
because thats what the third (and arguably the second) wave feminism essentially is: "its less about a strong ideologically consistent platform, and more about an emotional appeal to the plight of females"
what the incels dont realize is, society has, and perhaps always will, have a gynocentric inclination due to the inherent value of the vagina placing it (by default) above that of the penis.
people are biologically wired to care about a crying female. no one cares about the pleas of males.

[Anonymous No.14304937]

A plot twist: in my country of Brazil they found out that the majority of actual involuntary celibates were... guess what? Not le evil white male school shooter, but black females.

Here the media tried to pull the demonize the white male incel act too, in an attempt to link that demographic with the newly elected (right-wing) president, with a view to demoralize am his support base. But as soon as that statistic about black female incels came out they back peddled.

Some journalists rehearsed trying to twist that into racism, and suddenly now the incels the targets for demonization, but actually the victims of the same demographic that they tried to call incel first. But that didn’t work because the narrative from the true center of power (USA) was hammering too hard that incels = evil white males. So the media here just went silent on the whole issue. Everything lasted about a week or so.

[Anonymous No.14304943]

>>14301731
Incel is a hateful term used by those that Reee when hate is shown to Faggots, Genital Mutilators, Snakemen and Orcs. They often exclaim that 'Love Trumps Hate' and want more 'Hate' laws.
But never forget despite all the bullshit they say about love and tolerance; they are full of hate. Hate towards you. That is why they use hateful terms like Incel, Neet, Manlet.
Most of this hate is racist and sexist in nature. You never see an old lady called Incel; but everyone know she ain't getting laid. In fact they want you to have sympathy for her and dance with her at a wedding. More to the point, you don't see Niggers called Neets when they never work and just collect government gibs.
So what to do when you live in a society that hates you. The answer is whatever you want. Take the badass pill and start shit will all the time. (shades.gif)

[Anonymous No.14304960]

>>14304303
Incels are always inferior in more ways than just looks. Ugly guys get ugly girlfriends all the time.

[Anonymous No.14304965]

>>14304806
It does when its on the cover of a book. It's asserting it as a point of order, do you not notice the fullstop? It is the current trend for books of this category, you see it in every airport book store. It's a cheeky book title and you know it.

[Anonymous No.14304986]

>>14304854
despite my moral brain telling me what Elliot Rodger did was a horrible act, the other more sinister side of me says:
>at least he had the balls to do something. despicable? perhaps. a little bitch? hardly.
Russia didnt give much care to the peasants until the Bolshevik revolution rolled along, gathered them up, and started implementing Elliot Rodger acts on a wide scale.

i honestly dont think the incel movement will ever be taken seriously until they either 1) formulate a stronger, more consistent ideology; 2) just straight up start a violent revolution; or 3) enough people become incels that the sex and marriage market becomes distorted enough to prompt the general public's concern

[Anonymous No.14304989]

>>14304937
Conservative author Steve Sailer has remarked on how in the US liberalized attitudes towards interracial dating have generally produced Asian males and Black females as losers, though the reaction has been different between both.

In the black case, you see that ringing through any twitterghetto the decrying of any black celebrity or sportstar who goes with a white woman. Also the weird amount of focus on black women's hair.

[Anonymous No.14304994]

>>14304639
She types like she's got 75 IQ. (I know that it's not your girlfriend and you're baiting, just had to say it).

[Anonymous No.14304997]

>>14303895
>>14303896
>>14304023
>>14304028
>>14304031
Even as a shitpost this reads like garbage. This would have been much more fun if it was written by someone with an actual ear for prose or if it at least masqueraded as actual academic literature.

3/10. Very disappointed. I expected more from you faggots.

[Anonymous No.14305010]

>>14304986
I think you fundamentally misunderstand both Elliot Rodger and the Bolshevik Revolution.
Rodger was an objective failure in his own stated goals. He even ended up shooting up the wrong sorority. His "day of reckoning" was anything but. It was a horrible waste of life from the perspective of everyone involved.

[Anonymous No.14305023]

>>14304994
*writes, zoomershit

[Anonymous No.14305050]

>>14305010
nah, i may not have read Rodger's book, but i know enough to know about the almost comedic-like mistakes he made (and the absolutely batshit insane world views he espoused - no females = no sexuality?).
Elliot Rodger and the Bolshevik Revolution differed in scale and success, in that Elliot Rodger failed so horribly it was like a dark comedy.
the point i was trying to make in the original reply though, was that going around and shooting people can hardly be called "a little bitch" move. a little bitch is someone who is helpless, can only take it, and then makes cries and pleas for someone else to take agency on your behalf.
despite all the mishaps, Elliot Rodger still took things into his own hands.

[Anonymous No.14305053]

>>14301985
All of that is true, but old.
Now I think we should move on, especially with the decade coming to an end, only one year left. "Dating", mating, "women", etc., all those memes are officially dead and buried, and we should find the next thing to attract our attention.
Artificial wombs and sexbots.

[Anonymous No.14305215]

>>14304965
It doesn't suggest anything about a person's capability to be right. Your other example, calling someone stupid, does that. To call someone wrong is to call someone wrong only in a particular instance, in this case the average person's feelings towards the blackpill. Their general capability is not called into question.

Besides, your definition of passive aggressiveness as anything that is not directly insulting (which is so vague a definition as to be utterly meaningless) doesn't apply here since the title is directly accusatory and confrontational towards those who do not occupy the same position as the author. It may be smug or presumptuous but there is nothing passive aggressive about saying "you are wrong."

[Anonymous No.14305242]

>>14305053
the artificial womb seems like it still has a long way to go. im not sure it will become a thing even within our lifetimes, let alone become a thing that is a viable option to the masses.
i think the same can be said of sexbots. modern progress in robots has shown that its all the things we take for granted and thought would be easy (just move your arm bro) that turned out to be the hardest part for robots/AI.
what we initially thought would be the hard part (more complex thinking) ended up being the easier equation to solve (brute-force Chess machines -> AlphaZero)
so,personally, i wouldnt hold me breath for it

[Anonymous No.14305343]

>>14304026
You're assuming that post-industrialization/welfare selection pressures aren't maladaptive for a given population and/or civilization. I wish it were planned (active eugenics).

[Anonymous No.14305476]

>>14305215
Yeah sorry but if a woman walked up to me and said 'Here's why you're wrong about feminism' I'd say that's passive aggressive. Its essentially aggression masked by a desire to educate. If you haven't noticed this trend in journalism and writing in general you're a retard, it's classic passive aggression. I know because I work with a bunch of s*y boys and women and they all communicate like this. It's catty as fuck.

[Anonymous No.14305639]

What if I think it's a good thing that incels will never breed? If anything, a larger portion of guys should be incels. The world is full of ugly, fat, disgusting people. We should round them all up, male or female, and grind them into dog food, and make the world beautiful.

[Anonymous No.14305645]

>>14305639
These men would all have been incel today.

[Anonymous No.14305665]

>>14305645
No they wouldn't. They were all wildly successful at the top of their field. You think faggots crying on the internet are all geniuses?
I don't see a single obese or slovenly person in that picture. They all appear to take good care of themselves.

[Anonymous No.14305671]

>>14305639
there will always be more incels though
genetics doesnt work on a 1:1 basis
every person has a large potentiality within their own genome to produce a child that fits the incel archetype

[Anonymous No.14305684]

>>14305671
You're right. Constant vigilance is necessary to cull the uggos and the fatties.

[Anonymous No.14305686]

>>14305665
>They were all wildly successful at the top of their field
So what? They still would be unattractive to women because of their physical traits and unable to get laid which is what makes them incels.

[Anonymous No.14305718]

>No mention of the difference between monogamous and polygamous civilizations or the West's decline into de facto polygamy.

[Anonymous No.14305719]

>>14305686
No, they wouldn't. Incels aren't incels just because they're ugly.
How many incels can you name who are resounding successes at everything or, in fact, anything? Rich business magnates? Nobel laureates? Even Michel "shrivelled French ashtray man" Houllebecq has a cute wife. Slavoj Zizek is a sniffely mess and he has a happy family with multiple kids.
Every guy in that picture fucked then and would fuck now because they were good at life. Virtually nobody is an incel because the world doesn't understand them. The world understands them perfectly, they just suck.

[Anonymous No.14305722]

>>14305476
No it's straight up aggression. Passive aggression would be a sigh followed by "ok, let's unpack this." Blatantly telling someone they are wrong is the very opposite of passive.

[Anonymous No.14305730]

>>14305665
Women choose based based almost entirely on physical criteria, especially when they're young

[Anonymous No.14305740]

>>14305719
It's adorable that you think that the dissolution of monogamy isn't what lead to a breeding hierarchy among men, rather than "muh incels"

https://sciencenorway.no/childlessness-fathers-forskningno/a-quarter-of-norwegian-men-never-father-children/1401047

[Anonymous No.14305751]

>>14305718
yeah, this would have been an actual good point to make
a historical argument could be made that many of the advances we have seen in the world in general (not even just the West) can be tied to an overall shift toward a monogamous society, and then juxtapose that with the current decline of marriage and rising de factor polygamy.

>>14305719
tis true. the book would probably be taken more seriously if the author was able to divorce himself from a hard blackpill position to include self-proclaimed MGTOWs and de facto MGTOW (MGTOW for all intents and purposes, even if they dont recognize or label themselves as such)

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.14305761]

>>14305751
feminism is primarily a primitivist revolt against monogamy

[Anonymous No.14305763]

>>14305740
I never posed any theory about how things ended up the way they did. I just said we should round up people who are fat and burn them for fuel.

[Anonymous No.14305785]

>>14305763
The claim that incels are incels because of some particular fucked up personality trait that makes them so is bs. Incels are incels because of the abandonment of monogamy, and many of them wouldn't have been incels if they were born earlier.

[Anonymous No.14305821]

>>14305761
im not sure if i would go so far as to call feminism a revolt against monogamy. certainly, many of the advances and changes put forth by feminism has lead to the weakening and disintegration of monogamy as a societal structure, but im not sure that was their intent in the first place.
females would prefer to have "Chad" to themselves, and only themselves, if they somehow could

i would describe feminism more as a group of people who either neglected or underestimated the concept of Chesterton's Fence.
i would, however, go further to describe third wave feminism as just a bunch of really retarded people who only gained such momentum and ground due to the inherent value of and the biologically-wired sympathy toward the vagina

[Anonymous No.14305825]

>>14305785
On a large-scale societal level, sure. On an individual level, following one guy today, he invariably has some glaring flaw that women can smell a mile away.
I see it the way I see the debt crisis. On a macro level, it is incredibly predatory and awful that teenagers are beginning their lives in debt by having worthless degrees pushed on them as the only option. But on a micro level, my cousin-in-law is still an absolute retard for going six figures into debt for a film degree from a diploma mill, and I know the system failed her but it is largely a consequence of her being very very dumb.
Regardless of the past or the present, in the future, people who cannot discipline themselves enough to prevent being obese or smelling like rancid cheese should be euthanized. It is too crowded.

[Anonymous No.14305837]

>>14302293
>>14301985
>>14301731
Sperg-tastic post, truly.

[Anonymous No.14305845]

>>14302924
>Appears to be a serious work. I'm glad.
Fucking spastic

[Anonymous No.14305900]

>>14305761
/mu/ triptards are primarily the worst posters on 4channel

[Anonymous No.14305907]

>>14305825
yeah, i cant help but feel the same. on the macro level, where it becomes less like real life and more about cold numbers, i can see the trends. on the micro level, i cant help but realize that most, if not all, of my failures stem from my own shortcomings and poor decisions.

i wish there was a demographics study to survey the incel community. although i would define the "community" as:
>involuntary celibates, or those who abstain (or left) from marriage and the conventional family structure
this would thus include incels, MGTOW, divorce-rape fathers, and even celebrities like Leonardo DiCaprio or Ronaldo (Ronaldo has three children via anonymous surrogacy, and has full custody of his children, although he did eventually - just recently - have one child with a girlfriend)

[Anonymous No.14306401]

>>14305645
Einstein fucked multiple whores and didn't believe in monogamy

[Anonymous No.14306410]

>>14306401
truly a high IQ individual

[Anonymous No.14306521]

>>14303895
disappointing

[Anonymous No.14306540]

>>14305825
Your point articulates something that is equally damning to me though; on a macro level more and more people are as dumb and undisciplined as your cousin. Why is this?

[Anonymous No.14306541]

>>14304023
>Notice how a dog has zero self-awareness - he will just walk outside and take a shit regardless of who is watching.
>Most people who accept the blackpil are probably people with higher than average IQ

[Anonymous No.14306566]

>>14304662
lmao

[Anonymous No.14306859]

>>14304986
>perhaps. a little bitch?
What the FUCK do you mean him being a "bitch"? HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU DARE TO USE THE WORD "BITCH" in a derogatory sense? ALL fuckheads doing that should be beaten up half dead or sent to labor camps. Be them women or men. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING AN ANIMAL FEMALE, one type of which is a "bitch". You do not use the expression "stud" in a derogatory sense either do you? DO YOU? No, because you FUCKING THINK THAT BEING A MALE OF ANY TYPE IS A GOOD THING. So change you fucking heads and start thinking the same about being a FEMALE as well.

The people of my country may thank for the fact that the counterpart of "bitch" in our language, is NOT being used as a derogatory term of anyone. It is only being used in connection of FEMALE DOGS. And THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING A FEMALE dog. And yeah, they, the people of my country may thank this fact because if the counterpart of "bitch" was being used as a derogatory term in my language, I'D BE CUTTING HEADS HERE AND THERE. :)

Just FYI. Every time you spell the word "bitch" in a derogatory sense, you DIG YOUR OWN GRAVE a bit deeper. Or at least prove what despicable pieces of shit among humanity you are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X17ouo1SD-w

And didn't the incels already start their revolution, in a form of constant stream of shootings? Isn't sex and marriage market pretty skewed already? Women NEED TO BE REALLY SCARED already, about their future lives. It is not okay for them to mock feminists anymore to PROVE THEIR OWN SUPERIORITY COMPARED TO FEMINISTS to get a man. Feminists are the only people who will stand up for their rights the day the right-wing, including nationalists, start taking away women's rights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TVe7zSnbcY

[Anonymous No.14306869]

>>14301985
>no chapter called "have sex"
I am extremely fucking disapointed

[Anonymous No.14306898]

>>14303895
>entire book is in reddit spacing
w0w

[Anonymous No.14306954]

>>14303895
I mean the guy isn't really wrong, he's just being a bit too strict about it.

[Anonymous No.14306971]

>>14301985
Lmfao it actually looks pretty thorough, covers all the bases. I don't identify as an incel even though i am one, and I spend no time on their forums, but the fact of the matter is that lookism is fundamentally true. Everything else is a cope.

[Anonymous No.14306986]

>>14303895
>>14303896
Oh God it's hideous, what a disappointment.

[Anonymous No.14306996]

>>14303896
>>14303895
No professor ever got within a 4 kilometer radius of this book while it was being written

[Anonymous No.14307008]

>>14303895
this proves if anyone is discouraged in writing or releasing public work that it really isn't about what idea you have aslong as you execute on it. but make sure its an idea that is important to you, if not it won't be important to anyone else

[Anonymous No.14307019]

>>14304726
Ugly men are a threat to women because it is possible to be raped and impregnated by them. Ugly women pose no such threat to men.

[Anonymous No.14307024]

>>14301731
>>14301985
Reminder that looks absolutely determine a lot of good shit that comes your way. My old roommate gave me his old router, expensive keyboard he stole from Best Buy, and a television because I look attractive.

>It takes 13ms for people to differentiate attractive faces from unattractive faces
http://psycnet.apa.org/record/2005-15801-011?doi=1

>Strong Inverse Association Between Height and Suicide
https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/pdf/10.1176/appi.ajp.162.7.1373

>Love at first sight is real
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/meet-catch-and-keep/201801/is-love-first-sight-real

>Your face heavily affects your entire life
https://www.nytimes.com/1981/09/01/science/effects-of-beauty-found-to-run-surprisingly-deep.html?pagewanted=1

>Halo effect
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29390018

>How Important is Physical Attractiveness in the Marriage Market? (tl;dr very)
http://www.reis.cis.es/REIS/PDF/REIS_159_07_ENGLISH1499424514902.pdf

>Study: Unattractive Men Not Viewed As ‘Dating Material,’ No Matter How Great Their Personality
https://www.studyfinds.org/unattractive-men-dating-material-study/

>Height is extremely important
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201306/why-women-want-tall-men

>Bottom 80% of men compete for the bottom 22% of women, top 78% of women compete for the top 20% of men
https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a

>Women care about face much more than body
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003347207000565

Why don't smart teens have sex? (study with 1k+ people)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3134531/

[Anonymous No.14307141]

>>14307024
/thread

https://wilkes888.wordpress.com/2013/02/08/my-final-blog-entry-love-you-all/

[Anonymous No.14307152]

>>14306859
your bait failed because you tried to hard

[Anonymous No.14307197]

>>14307152
It didn't fail we just recognize it as copypasta you retard

[Anonymous No.14307270]

>>14307197
im sorry i dont lurk as much as (you) guys senpai

[Anonymous No.14307278]

>>14307270
Carry on

[Anonymous No.14307322]

>>14306971
>lookism
>>>/t/umblr

[Anonymous No.14307347]

>>14306954
That and his prose is complete shit.

[Anonymous No.14307376]

>>14307347
He's barely literate lol. Someone like that has no business writing a book.

[Anonymous No.14307451]

>>14302998
based schitzoposter

[Anonymous No.14307472]

>>14303742
lol

[Anonymous No.14307493]

>>14307024
>Attractive people have an easier time getting laid
What groundbreaking science discoveries

[Anonymous No.14307565]

>>14301731
>all the guys who were sexually active in high school and between 18-20 are now super successful in life while most guys who didn't get any or got some mid-twenties are now failures
what did god mean by this?

[Anonymous No.14307581]

>>14307565
Read Job

[Anonymous No.14307606]

>>14307565
read genesis maybe? specifically abraham.
>go out into the world you 40 year old virgin, and do something
>"Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will show thee."

[Anonymous No.14307624]

>>14307493
Unfortunately this shit has to be point out in this day and age because the minority people who disagree seem to be in complete control of things.

[Anonymous No.14307625]

>>14304639
>openeion
i love it

[Anonymous No.14307637]

>>14307606
God has a lot of virgins to guide to unknown lands

[Anonymous No.14307802]

>>14307152
IT IS NOT BAIT YOU LIAR. YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO INVALIDATE WHAT I SAY BY CLAIMING THAT IT IS A BAIT. That is a VERY TYPICAL, and also EXTREMELY RETARDED way of trying to invalidate other people's comments, in its BLATANT, LOW EFFORT TRANSPARENCY. You're fucking proud of yourself now, eh? Being a RETARDED LIAR? Lying to invalidate someone's comment is bad enough in itself, makes you an IMMORAL FUCKHEAD, but doing it in a retarded way makes you an IMMORAL, LYING IMBECILE. And you think you have a right to post here. Next time, when you fucking want to keep up your chances to use the word "bitch" in a derogatory sense, to DEGRADE ALL FEMALES ON THE PLANET, at least fucking try to come up with a little more believable lie to do it.

I fucking hate LIARS. Esp, retarded ones. They are insulting other people's intelligence, thinking that their lies go through. Although I have to admit they often times do. When I was very young, I always believed the shit people threw at me, thinking that it is their GENUINE opinion. Now I see that about 90% of people are fucking LYING for about half of the time, to invalidate someone's comment, to put their rivals down or to save their own asses after having done something wrong. It's fucking infuriating to witness. Makes you want to smack some faces in esp. when someone presents a retarded lie thinking it's somehow clever.

I'm done. You people are NO BETTER that the ones on other forums around here, Not even more intelligent, concluding from the retarded lies you put up to invalidate other people's comments.

But hey, sorry you might be legit mentally disabled, after all your wrote "to" instead of "too". If that is the case then just dismiss what I wrote.

[Anonymous No.14307993]

>>14306898
I was really confused as to why the author chose to format it like this.

[Anonymous No.14308004]

>>14307993
could be a shallow attempt to drag out the pages to lend some credence to the validity of the book
otherwise it could just be one page
>FACE
>HEIGHT
>FRAME

[Anonymous No.14308369]

>>14303895
>millimeters
When will this meme end?
Those changes are only critical to eyes, but everything else will require centimeters -- if not inches -- of modification.

[Anonymous No.14308970]

>>14305825
>>14305907
If one guy is a smelly loser, he has a problem. If everyone is a smelly loser, society has a problem.

Those "shortcomings" are both the cause AND the result of poor romantic prospects. And they have analogues among women.

I'm somewhat older - a Gen X'er. The biggest difference I see from say even fifteen years ago is that the average-to-slightly-below-average guy has much worse prospects with women. The guy who hasn't showered in five weeks, literally never goes outside, has never had a real job etc -- that's not new. That a guy who gets through life but is nothing special is now somehow *in the same category* as that guy, that's new.

[Anonymous No.14309208]

>waaah im not conventionally attractive i must give up at life and devote myself to resentment

[Anonymous No.14309241]

>>14305050
no he didn't. taking things into his own hands would be putting aside his unreasonable expectations and trying to make the best of his situation. he had a shit lot more going for him than i ever have, with the money, decent looks etc.

throwing a suicidal temper tantrum is the most pathetic admission of defeat. he was absolutely a little bitch.

there is an empathic case to be made for deformed and disabled men who can't get laid because they look less than human. not for elliot rodger.

[Anonymous No.14309283]

>>14309241
He was a cute guy. I'd hit it.

[Anonymous No.14309505]

>>14305845

how's kindergarten

[Anonymous No.14309510]

>>14301985
Who would have thought autism was the next evolution in mankind

[Anonymous No.14309530]

>>14302924
If we should have learned anything since 2016, its that the left are culturally blind

[Anonymous No.14309537]

>>14302941
Free, easily accessible porn

[Anonymous No.14309539]

>>14302924
>Appears to be a serious work
A quick read through of the first few pages suggests it's not.

[Anonymous No.14309546]

>>14303874
The writer's obviously not a professor.

[Anonymous No.14309557]

>>14303895
I hope the writer acknowledges some counters to this argument somewhere later in the book, as theres a lot of basic ways to refute this. Particularly if a man becomes rich, or successful in his dicipline. Fairly ugly men can excel by becoming the best musician, artist, sports athlete, etc. Even the bassist in a garage band can get a little pussy.

[Anonymous No.14309568]

>>14309557
The only counterargument I've seen to your claim is, "No, they can't." I suspect this book isn't going to do better.

[Anonymous No.14309569]

>>14303896
Oh no its retarded

[Anonymous No.14309608]

[Anonymous No.14309623]

>>14309505
Easy

[Anonymous No.14309632]

>>14307565
I'm not sure. All the cool hip dudes from my highschool are now either stuck in the same town or going to a shitty state uni. I was friends with a lot of them and around 60% of them work as mechanics in different places, but not high end mechanics, more just greasemonkeys. I actually don't know a single chad from HS that has done something with their lives. Most are either with a kid in a meh job now or still in uni.

[Anonymous No.14309646]

>>14309632
People are gonna tell me that I'm coping, but Chads seem to go either the way you described or the way the anon you replied to described. The headstart and comfort that attractiveness and high status gives you either ruins you and makes it so that you never put effort into things, or gives you that leg up on everybody else.

[Anonymous No.14309670]

>>14309646
The difference you're seeing is do to money. Attractive and popular poor kids still end up going nowhere; whereas, attractive popular kids with money go on to be successful.

[Anonymous No.14309679]

The difference between dudes who can't get laid and incels is probably 10 IQ points. Incels are stupid people- they often describe at length how genetically they are dead-ends, but fail to realize this is true cognitively as well. They spend their entire day posting about their inceldom, how ugly they are, making fake chad tinder accounts, looking at dating app statistics. Thinking about themselves is their main hobby. They're not inquisitive about the world, they're not reading a novel, they're not practicing instruments. They're posting on incel forums about how much it sucks to be an incel. What kind of mind would be entertained by such monotony? It's an existence only a creature of extremely low potential would enjoy. There are ugly dudes that never get laid that don't identify as incels because they don't think the fact they're not getting laid is the most interesting idea in the world. They're coding or going rock climbing or trying a new recipe from a cookbook. Living a life that is lonely, with at least they embrace areas of their life where they have agency rather than agonizing over the areas they don't. If you're ugly, practice an art and create beauty. If you can create something beautiful I guarantee the fact you're not getting laid will not seem so significant.

[Anonymous No.14309772]

>>14301731
Just invent a fake aura of power and decisiveness.

[Anonymous No.14309785]

>>14309679
Cope. Chads are not that different from incels in terms of cognitive capabilities. You could even argue that they're under lower pressure to perform intellectually because they can coast through life on the basis of their looks alone if they take care of it well.

[Anonymous No.14309843]

Daily reminder that the inceltears subreddit, which makes fun of the blackpill, has a weekly topic where beta males cry about a lack of pussy

https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/dxza1x/weekly_advice_thread_11181124/

[Anonymous No.14309882]

>>14301731
>Thoughts?

Have sex

[Anonymous No.14310070]

>>14309785
>Didn't get his point
Low IQ spotted

[Anonymous No.14310129]

>>14309679
Good post.
>>14309785
Cringe. Reread what he said.

[Anonymous No.14310152]

>>14301731
>>14301985
The internet was a mistake.

>people prefer attractive people to unattractive people
Imagine whining at length about something as banal as this.
Don't you feel retarded doing this? Don't you have any intellectual dignity?

[Anonymous No.14310163]

>>14304937
very interesting anon, thanks for sharing

[Anonymous No.14310187]

>>14307802
See you tomorrow, Eric.

[Anonymous No.14310294]

>>14309241
He was mentally incapable of turning his life around

[Anonymous No.14310300]

>>14308970
>That a guy who gets through life but is nothing special is now somehow *in the same category* as that guy, that's new
Based

[Anonymous No.14310311]

>>14310152
most modern philosophy is just bitching and making mountains out of molehills

[Anonymous No.14310326]

>>14308970
i can only offer my own personal anecdote
i think an often neglected phenomenon within the redpill, blackpill, MGTOW, and other similar communities is the problem of "post-redpill malaise"
Neetzsche spoke of something similar when speaking about the decline of religion. once all these axioms are broken down, how else are we to move forward? it isnt as simple as it may seem.
>you are born into a culture and society that fosters a foundation within you built around and extended from the bluepill
>you build your life and move toward a direction in accordance with bluepill ideologies
>and then one day you take the redpill. you discover the bitter truths and come to realize "such is nature and such is the way things are."
>you may find yourself angry, disgusted, or frustrated with it all. but you slowly find yourself accepting the various biological and cultural reasons laying behind the undercurrent. it becomes a pseudo-Buddhist like understanding: "it is what it is."
>"the scorpion cannot help but sting. it is a scorpion."
>you look around you and see that everything you have built has come crumbling down. once the bluepill jenga block is withdrawn, the structure cannot hold.
>it is simultaneously liberating and crushing.
>you are now free to build something entirely new. but you cannot help but realize that you are, nonetheless, currently sitting in a pile of rubble.
it seems that people, in general, are shit in determining their own meaning and purpose. we function much better when operating within a determine structure that is still loose enough to allow ourselves to move forward on our own accord. the military has a similar concept:
>"here's your mission, go forth and seize it. but how you accomplish your mission is up to you."

>>14309241
this is just a meaningless conversation stemming from the lack of an agreed upon definition of "little bitch."
most people say little bitch, in the context of incels, to refer to someone who has withdrawn their own agency. someone who can only take the "abuse", cry about it, and then shift their agency onto someone else in hopes that they will do something on their behalf.
if the American Revolution had failed, im certain that our evaluation of the founding fathers would be much different:
>"they should have put aside their unreasonable expectations and tried to make the best of the situation. continue to petition the king, work through parliament, build an influential network through other government figures/institutions, etc. they had a lot going for them. it was, after all, just some (more) taxes. throwing a suicidal rebellion is the most pathetic admission of defeat."
i dont know how you can maintain consistency with hand-waiving Elliot Rodger as some little bitch, while not doing the same for the Confederates or the IRA (Britain had already granted home rule to various of its colonies by them).

[Anonymous No.14310399]

>>14302941
Lack of vagina and oversupply of ethots/porn

[Anonymous No.14310423]

>>14305718
>>14305751
In some ways incels are a symptom of this polygamous shift. Not because they are necessarily physically unable to get any girls but because a many seem to be the result of dysfunctional, abusive families or raised by single mothers, raised and destined to be losers.

[Anonymous No.14310439]

>>14307024
So everything incels said is right? What do I do know?
I always thought personality and hobbies would eventually save me but I since I haven't had sex in 23 years perhaps they have a point.

[Anonymous No.14310440]

just imagine internalizing dumb 4chan memes and actually believing your jawline is why you're a sexless loser lol

[Anonymous No.14310457]

>>14302388
Okay Nick.

And check em based digits.

[Anonymous No.14310468]

>>14309679
Depression. They need professional help. Not much fun to be had in music, art or literature when you can't help but feeling like dying at all times. They aren't entertained by posting on incel forums lol why would you think that honestly. It's just venting and letting things out.

[Anonymous No.14310480]

>>14309679
btw your post read like you got 10 dildos up your ass

[Anonymous No.14310668]

>>14305719
Okay, so I if I become extremely successful and still can't get a girlfriend, you'll be wrong?

[Anonymous No.14310781]

in response to >>14310668 reply
the crux of >>14305719 argument is this:
>rise above the mean, and you too can elevate yourself above inceldom
the problem is that it falls apart when taken in conjunction with this other reply >>14308970
>"That a guy who gets through life but is nothing special is now somehow *in the same category* as [the incel], that's new."

there will always be a mean, and a set of winners and losers. if everyone becomes extremely successful, no one is especially successful. so much of what the mainstream's idea of success is predicated on a comparison to your peers. surely, many incels are more knowledgeable, cultured, and skilled (at the very least, in writing) than their farmer forefathers. but that's nothing special in the current world where everyone is literate, and everyone has the world's knowledge and culture at its fingertips (via the internet).
advocating for something akin to just become a "rich business magnate or nobel laureate" discards the fundamental nature of humanity. not only are most of us averages, most basketball stars from the 50s/60s would be bench material if they were thrust into the current NBA.

whereas most males operate on a standard so low all but the most lowest-tiers of females will qualify (even landwhales are given plenty of attention and opportunities)
>e.g. as long as she's not fat (it's not only if she's a skinny/hot)
unrestrained and misguided hypergamy operates on a principle that is untenable when taken to its logical extreme:
>never settle, strive for the best, branch swing and always be moving up.
and yet, at one point, everyone must recognize their fair value and place in this world.

where is the compassion for the average? where is the cry for humanity when it comes to the down trodden? or perhaps we should (and do) waive them off as nothing more than inferior beings.
in which case, that's fine. survival of the fittest. to the winners goes the spoils. but i dont think its too much to ask that society holds the mirror to its face and acknowledge this bitter truth. nor should society find itself surprised when the masses descend into violence rebellion and start putting heads to the guillotine.
after all, the French Revolution, the 1848 revolutions across Europe, the Arab Spring all have one commonality particularly relevant to the current phenomenon of inceldom:
>"groups of angry young males dissatisfied with the current system, resorting to violence in order to give voice to their concerns"

[Anonymous No.14311012]

>>14302248
>>14302293
The real black pill is that the majority of males of every species are disposable. Only a minority pass on their genes, and this is why males have greater genetic variability than females.
This is legit the reason for warfare throughout history. To cull the weaker males so that only the stronger ones reproduce..
Incels only exist in civilization because in barbaric societies they'd have been killed off by their teens.

[Anonymous No.14311018]

>>14303895
I've known lots of ugly guys who have style and personality who have no trouble getting laid.

[Anonymous No.14311051]

>>14311018
And I know a 4'10 indian janitor who had a threesome with two victoria secret's models

[Anonymous No.14311364]

>>14310781
Great point.

[Anonymous No.14311391]

Strict lookism is bullshit but the fact remains - if you are a low status male, you are the scum of society. Nobody cares about your existence - nobody wants you alive. You are totally expendable. In history, you would have died fighting for someone else.

The low status males, and I'm talking the bottom like 40% of men, are completely worthless in the eyes of most - they will probably not get married until a very late age with a used up whore who wants to hastily get hitched.

[Anonymous No.14311439]

>>14304011
>This book seems to be an extension of muh systematic oppression to incels.
Extension of social justice to lookism, and to genetic differences in general, is a very consistent development and is practically inevitable as long as social justice itself continues to live. It's not even about the hyperpolygamy that most incels are upset about, that merely accelerates the process. But the point is way deeper and more fundamental than someone not being able to get laid.

[Anonymous No.14311450]

>>14304726
the open hostility is a screening strategy to cover the possibility that the perception of a man's low-status was incorrect, since a high status man would (pardon the expression) return fire

[Anonymous No.14311484]

>>14305719
this would imply that those stuck at the bottom of an arbitrary social hierarchy are functionally subhuman, despite the fact that by default somebody has to be at the bottom

[Anonymous No.14311506]

>>14305907
i imagine that a surprisingly large number of actual incels are migrants, a group which skews heavily towards young men but shunts them into low-status economic positions in foreign societies. unless you get really lucky or marry anything migrant your chances of meeting women are functionally slim to nil

[Anonymous No.14311793]

>>14302248
>Dr. Castle has a second published piece, "Instagram is My Religion"™
Maybe that answer the question of inceldom. Of course if you are 12 hours a day on the internet, you will never get laid. The problem of inceldom is in many case that young men redirect their sexual energy toward a computer screen. That's disastrous as a mating strategy. Okay there are really, really ugly guys, but those are not a new phenomenon. They existed 50 years ago.

[Anonymous No.14311837]

>>14311012
Okay, nice argument, nice blackpill, i know a guy in a wheelchair who got married to a pretty women.
What's your answer to this?
Maybe the real blackpill is not that some men are hopeless, maybe the blackpill is that they are irremediably fucked in the head. Even if they could fuck, their mental boundaries make it impossible.
There is also the cheat code: fuck African women, but they won't. That's the proof that inceldom is mostly a mental problem not a physical one.

[Anonymous No.14311848]

>>14310152
game's rigged, that's all the book is trying to say
you cant blame someone for not wanting to participate in a contest they have no chance of winning

[Anonymous No.14311892]

>>14311848
Would you have prefered to be born without your legs, or blind?
One day, life might strike you hard, for real, what will you do then?

[Anonymous No.14311910]

>>14311837
im not sure uprooting your life and moving to a different continent with a vastly different language, culture, and custom constitutes cheat code
cheat code implies easy/shortcut.

i think i agree with >>14311012 to a certain degree. humans have 2-3 times as many female ancestors than males. the truth is that for most of history, a select few males (usually higher status) passed on their genes with many females, while most males (usually lower status) either perished, jacked off into a tissue, or became a monk. monogamy as a societal institution is a rather new thing, when viewed through a historical context.
there needs to be a new major war. this will cull down on the number of incels, invigorate certain men with meaning, or offer some men the greatest and most dangerous thrill of their lives
>"omg anon, go read some of my wife's son's lit on warfare. its terrible and problematic."
go talk to real world veterans and see that their experiences vary wildly from PTSD to "despite all the danger, i actually kinda miss it."
either that, or society as a whole needs to reexamine monogamy as an institution.

[Anonymous No.14311914]

>>14311892
>don't blame the rich for being poor, since there's someone poorer than you
That didn't work so well the last time.

[Anonymous No.14311978]

>>14311892
i love my life and i enjoy being alive, and am generally thankful for the relatively easy life ive been given. in this sense, most would not consider me blackpilled
that being said, i have an utter disdain for women

[Anonymous No.14312091]

>>14303768
STFU roastie.

[Anonymous No.14312110]

>>14304891
They're not even making a plea. They understand they're not getting laid, and most made peace with it. The REASON THEY'RE FUCKING SNAPPING IS PEOPLE WON'T LET THEM BE.

[Anonymous No.14312119]

>>14306859
Shut up, bitch.

[Anonymous No.14312129]

>>14311914
You think you would fuck more under national socialism? Those guys were opposite of incels. Hardcore, didn't fear death. Stop the jokes please.
>>14311910
You know that many african countries speak english right? It's a cheat code regarding the white male sexual value. Not regarding the external, mildly difficult actions leading to it. If you can't manage to go to a foreign country and manage your life a little bit, you don't deserve sex, and you deserve nothing else really except eating a sleeping under a roof.

[Anonymous No.14312130]

>>14311892
>but what about this hypothetical
Pathetic. Address his argument direction, cocksucker.

[Anonymous No.14312151]

>200 replies
>no link

[Anonymous No.14312156]

>>14312130
When life will strike you down for real, you'll regret so much the time when your main worry in life was your low sexual value.
I've never, ever complained because my sexual life wasn't satisfying. You know what you look like? A whiny, weak boy who never grew up. You are in your 20s, but in your head, you are still a boy.

[Anonymous No.14312165]

>>14304937
>in my country of Brazi
Hue, deixa eu adivinhar, você é aprendeu inglês com joguinhos.

[Anonymous No.14312178]

>>14304937
Links about the studies, please, anon.

[Anonymous No.14312184]

>>14312156
I'm 38 and been to war. Now address his fucking argument directly, dickless. You sound like a woman.

[Anonymous No.14312206]

>>14301985
I'm not even going to read this thread or have any interest over this shitty meme compilation book, just passing by to say that this is exactly the kind of shit 99% of the retarded incels in this board would write if they had a tiny bit of motivation, and most negative comments are probably from jealous faggots.

[Anonymous No.14312219]

>>14312184
What's the argument, the blackpill?
Life is unfair, you noticed yesterday?
The difference between you and me, is that i will try, again and again. And you whine.

[Anonymous No.14312256]

>>14312219
(...)
By the way retard, there are not limits of attempts regarding women. Some selective exams, you can only take twice. If you loose your physical ability, it sometime definitive. But women? Well, you can try almost endlessly, with an almost endless amount of women. That's more fair than many things in life.

[Anonymous No.14312293]

>>14312156
i cant speak for every incel, but personally for me:
i put absolutely no value in sexual relations, mostly because of the practices of women that are (most likely, i didnt read it) illustrated in OP's book. i wish that there WAS value in it, or that i could find some value, but i ultimately cant, and i blame women for that
that is my grievance, not "i cant get laid"

[Anonymous No.14312326]

>>14312293
Women are shit, but you can't make children alone, and if one day artificial womb is a thing, it would still by far be better for the kid, psychologically, to grow in a real women than in a machine.

[Anonymous No.14312389]

>>14312326
what a hopeless existence we lead

[Anonymous No.14312474]

>>14310480
Your post reads like you just got fucking eviscerated by that anon pointing out you're as smart as you think

[Anonymous No.14312798]

>>14311793

see >>14308970

>>14311837
One off anecdotes don't disprove the blackpill. Outliers happen. Not top-tier men have tremendous difficulty getting laid in the modern western world, to an extent never seen before. This mostly comes down to how they look and the fact women are way more selective than men when it comes to who they'll fuck. That's the blackpill.

>>14312129
>Hey guys. If you're poor just move to Uganda, because there you will be middle class at least. And if you can't bother to move you are worthless and deserve everything coming to you.
Fucking retard.

>>14312219
Analyzing a social dynamic is not whining. You sound like a dumb fuck boomer.

[Anonymous No.14312911]

People who write books like these under gay pseudonyms are fucking cringe. I don't care if their book is the holy grail of modern literature, it looks really dumb when you have to use a gay name like "Dr. Castle" or "Delicious Tacos". Cringe!

[Anonymous No.14313130]

>>14311910
>society as a whole needs to reexamine monogamy as an institution.

No, society as a whole needs to rediscover Telos. There is a resounding truth in this thread, that if most of the incels were motivated to improve their lives, they wouldn't be incels. Even if modern day e-dating makes them unable to attract a mate, they would still find their lives enjoyable.

I'm in an odd position where despite being attractive, intelligent, and rapidly growing in status, I've refused opportunities with women. My life is better for it because those women, while physically very attractive, would be a distraction from the deeper pursuits I have found. Such pursuits are available to everyone, and unique to each individual.

[Anonymous No.14313143]

>>14312911
>People who write books like these under gay pseudonyms are fucking cringe


Are all pen names gay? I'm probably going to end up publishing under a pen name, but because I want to separate different aspects of my life.

[Anonymous No.14313149]

>>14312798
Okay just kill yourself. Disappear from the gene pool, i don't care. I really try to be someone good, and care about others, but i identify myself as someone grey. If someone is really bad, or doesn't deserve to be helped, so be it. Hang yourself. That's what you want anyway on a subconscious level. To not exist. I do okay with women.

[Anonymous No.14313181]

>>14313143
Just come up with a real sounding fake name. Dr. Castle sounds like a retarded cartoon character.

[Anonymous No.14313235]

>>14313130
ive already addressed some of my thoughts on this in my other replies. the gist of it being that many of the current discussions regarding inceldom should be enlarged in scope to cover a wider, but still relevant, array of issues and groups, such as self-described or de facto MGTOW, as you describe yourself:
>"I'm in an odd position where despite being attractive, intelligent, and rapidly growing in status, I've refused opportunities with women."

monogamy as an institution needs to be reexamined not just because of incels, but also because of the (what seems to be) a growing segment of males choosing to withdraw or abstain (for one reason or another) from the sex, dating, and/or marriage market
>Japanese herbivores, MGTOW, redpill but no marriage, celebrities declining the traditional family model, etc

[Anonymous No.14313237]

>>14313149
>Not top-tier men have tremendous difficulty getting laid in the modern western world, to an extent never seen before. This mostly comes down to how they look and the fact women are way more selective than men when it comes to who they'll fuck. That's the blackpill.
This mostly comes down because they are behind the FUCKING COMPUTER ALL DAY;

[Anonymous No.14313279]

When i was a teenager some time ago, incels were constantly bullied. "You are a virgin". "Go out with girls instead of staying in front of your computer" etc...
All i ever wanted was to be left alone. It's nobody business if i play videogames instead of partying and dating girls.
Some it's not the normies who bust balls, but the virgins. Just stop harrasing me with your virginity, as i've never harassed anybody because i didn't get laid. I just wanted to be left alone. Fucking boys who want to cuddle with their momma girlfriend.

[Anonymous No.14313308]

>>14311848
>game's rigged
Which game is that and how are incels "not participating"? They seem to be absolutely obsessed with relationships. They talk about them more than gossipy teenage girls.

There's almost zero worthwhile insight in this incel crap. Just some frustrated early 20s guys whining about how women prefer certain types of men. As if men don't prefer certain types of women or something.

[Anonymous No.14313315]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=0&v=coJjo3NmAEI&feature=emb_title

[Anonymous No.14313376]

>>14313308
>Which game
the game of life
you can be born a hopeless loser, and women are solely to blame
they are vapid and incapable of making objective decisions and therefore shouldnt be allowed to hold positions of power in society
im not saying all men are completely rational beings (in fact, it is these imbeciles we have to blame for the rights of women in the first place), but the difference is that ALL women fit this mold

[Anonymous No.14313410]

>>14313376
>you can be born a hopeless loser, and women are solely to blame
How? It takes two to make a baby.
Some people will necessarily be losers, because they can't all be winners.

>they are vapid and incapable of making objective decisions and therefore shouldnt be allowed to hold positions of power in society
OK. How is this related to incels, though?

[Anonymous No.14313425]

>>14313149
>I really try to be someone good, and care about others

Wait let me go get a cookie.

You write like a senile boomer. And btw I don't really feel like killing myself, so that was a weird projection.

>>14313237
Ok boomer

>>14313308
>how are incels "not participating"?
By not having sex. Are you being dense or what?

>>14313308
>Just some frustrated early 20s guys whining about how women prefer certain types of men. As if men don't prefer certain types of women or something.

Strawman. But it that were the case, why is young male virginity much higher than young female virginity? Why is the number of guys who haven't had sex in the past year much higher than the female number? Why do women rate only 20% of men as above average in looks compared to men who rate 50% of girls as above average?

[Anonymous No.14313436]

>>14313410
>How? It takes two to make a baby.
not what i meant
the issues with society that allow someone to be born into a life where they are destined to fail in almost all aspects is solely the fault of women
>OK. How is this related to incels, though?
iunno, im not really an incel, just a misogynist :^)

[Anonymous No.14313495]

>>14313425
>>how are incels "not participating"?
>By not having sex. Are you being dense or what?
The previous post said "you cant blame someone for not wanting to participate in a contest they have no chance of winning".
So that would mean incels don't want to have sex?
Nah, the previous poster probably meant something else.

>why is young male virginity much higher than young female virginity?
Because men and women are different, they have vastly different values when young and so on. This should be obvious if you study biology and evolution... or even if you just observe people.


>>14313436
>the issues with society that allow someone to be born into a life where they are destined to fail in almost all aspects is solely the fault of women
Can you really blame them for something they have no control over?
Do you also blame men who don't find deformed/ugly/old women attractive?

[Anonymous No.14313537]

>>14313495
>Do you also blame men who don't find deformed/ugly/old women attractive?
yes, i think refusing to be with someone because of their physical characteristics (barring legitimate hygiene concerns, take a fuckin bath) is incredibly shallow and unjustifiable

[Anonymous No.14313538]

>>14313425
Go back playing fortnite and jerk into a tissue. I'll fuck your sister and the girl that could have been your girlfriend. More for me. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.14313565]

>>14313537
But refusing for mental characteristics is OK? Some people were just lucky to be born smart or whatever.
There is no such thing as unconditional love between two people, it's a logical contradiction.
Unconditional love has to be non-personal, transcendental.

[Anonymous No.14313572]

>>14313495
You're grasping at straws. "Participating" in this context means pursuing sexual relations or even contributing to society at large. You don't get to control whether you desire sex or not.

>Because men and women are different, they have vastly different values when young and so on

Isn't the redpill theory that womean peak at 20 and men at 30? Well the studies done go all the way up to thirty-years-old, a time where most women would have hit "the wall", yet the differences are still there.

Furthermore, if a guy can't get laid for 25 years of his life, do you think he will be sleeping with fairly attractive women once he hits his "peak" at 30? At most he will have some girls wanting his money.

[Anonymous No.14313579]

>>14313538
Whatever floats your boat

[Anonymous No.14313633]

>>14313235
>monogamy as an institution needs to be reexamined not just because of incels, but also because of the (what seems to be) a growing segment of males choosing to withdraw or abstain (for one reason or another) from the sex, dating, and/or marriage market

I think you're confused. It's not monogamy that needs to be re-examined, it's the dating/sex market. Modern day dating is why I abstain. It saps people of their time, money, and energy and limits their viability as a future mate.

I want a virgin wife, not someone who would consider 10x my partner count to be "low". I know I can achieve this, if I wait. I also have seen past many other lies in our society that may be used to encourage me to pursue a wife that does not interest me.

Monogamy, as the standard, is the best for society. If someone wants the best of the opposite sex, they are driven to become the best of their sex. Rather than waste energy mate poaching or guarding, that energy is directed into their children, one another, and their community. People are driven by competition for the best mate to be better, rather than this game of body count many are caught in today.

[Anonymous No.14313636]

>>14313572
I don't know and honestly it seems like a silly thing to get worked up over.
Sure, maybe women do have it easier in intimate relationships overall. So what, it's not fair? Do you also obsess over the fact that there aren't enough female CEOs?
Again, men and women are just different. I guess they should have told you this when you were younger so it wouldn't hit you when you're most needy and horny.
Anyway, do something interesting. Shitposting about incels is stale and reddit at this point.

[Anonymous No.14313654]

>>14313495
>Because men and women are different, they have vastly different values when young and so on

Based on biology, women should be valuing their virginity more than men. Sex is, biologically, far riskier for them than for men.

This inversion of drives should give you insight into the effects of modern propaganda being used to brainwash young girls (See: Arianna Grande, Miley Cyrus, Etc.)

[Anonymous No.14313656]

>>14313565
love of ones mental state is the purest form of love that humans are capable of
love of flesh is the most cumbrained love

[Anonymous No.14313671]

>>14301731
>Why I'm a Big Smart Boy and You're a Dumb Meanie
How should anyone to respect such puerile diction and facetious presentation?

[Anonymous No.14313673]

>>14313633
>I want a virgin wife,
Not my problem, but i think that's not the best choice. I'd prefer a girl which had 5 partners but with who i have great physical chemistry, than a virgin with sub-par physical chemistry.

[Anonymous No.14313746]

>>14313673
>physical chemistry

Tell me your understanding of physical chemistry, anon.

Would you like this to be a discussion of the birth control effects on women's mate selection. On oxytocin responses and their effects on pair bonding?

Or do you use those as mere buzz words without contemplating their deeper meaning?

[Anonymous No.14313753]

>>14301985
umm based?

[Anonymous No.14313835]

>>14313746
Complete bullshit coming from a guy wandering of reddit TRP forum, but who doesn't have real life experience.
The worst chemistry i had was with a women who was... a virgin.
The internet is great, but it has bring people who talk about things they don't know about, because they didn't experience it IRL. I allow myself to talk about things i didn't experience myself, but i will never talk about them like it's a certainty before i have experienced them IRL.
Although after 5 partner for the women, chemstry seems to diminish, you can still have shit chemistry with a virgin women, and great chemistry with a women who had 3 partners.

[Anonymous No.14313846]

>>14303953
this is about every third post on /fit/

[Anonymous No.14313864]

so is this just faggy lookism shit or what? someone should write a book about how incels and women are pathologically identical and obsessed with the same banal, inane and completely gay shit. they hate women because they hate themselves, they're a spitting fucking image, and that's why they're completely incompatible. opposites attract and all that, and incels are just women with dicks. kind of like trannies but somehow with even less self awareness if you can even begin to fathom such a level of delusion

[Anonymous No.14313928]

>>14310326
>that whole response
he killed himself. he didn't negotiate a future for himself nor did he even try to. he was absolutely withdrawn from his own agency. nothing about what he did was in his own best interest. he took the RENT FREE meme too far and gave his entire life to resentment of women. absolute little bitch move, replacing all your dreams, desires, and potentials with a petulant act of self-negation.

there is absolutely no parallel to be drawn between sexual selection and political subordination.

[Anonymous No.14313935]

>>14313864
based and accurate

[Anonymous No.14313942]

>>14313835

All you think about is sex, anon. You are supposed to take her virginity on your wedding night to make the symbolic act of union physical.

You use the word chemistry a lot, yet I'm certain you've never actually studied chemistry.

[Anonymous No.14314152]

>>14313864
>and incels are just women with dicks
You nailed it. Men nature is to overcome, whatever the odds, and whatever the cost.
Incels are 20 something years old boys. Like women, they complain instead of take action. If a study was done on incels, i'll bet that most never actually did something hard in their life. No hard studies, no hard work, no competitive sport. Those who have success but stay away from women are actually volcels.
I don't have high esteem of females, but i have higher esteem of females who are into competitive sport, or manage a business, than those incel failures. They are nothing, and especially not men.
Incels are a failure in all aspects of their lifes. Not only women. It's very rare to find a small, ugly man who is a successful software programmer, business man, or whatever, but who qualify himself as an incel. Such a man will admit to his best friends that he doesn't have success with women, but he'll never identify himself with this failure with women. Incels are the male equivalent of feminists.They are the trash of the male population.

[Anonymous No.14314243]

>>14313864
>incels are just women with dicks
/thread

[Anonymous No.14314256]

>>14314152
Exactly. When did "I'm not good with women" turn into "women are scum" inceldom? These people are 100% unfuckable but it's for the exact opposite of the reasons that they think it's for.

[Anonymous No.14314663]

>>14305821
but they prefer to share a Chad than to conform to an Incel

[Anonymous No.14314859]

>>14314152
It is likely that many incels suffer from mental illness. Is living with mental illness not hard?

[Anonymous No.14314974]

>>14312129
>just fuck other races bro
This isn't a solution, its just pushing the problem onto non-white men who already suffer disproportionately from lookism.

[Anonymous No.14315225]

>>14301985
>Importance of s*x
>literally the most important aspect of nature and society itself
>varely 4 pages
Damn

[Anonymous No.14315275]

>>14305719
>>14305686
None of them are incels because incels arent smart or sucessful. Incels are < average looking dude with chronic horrible luck in all the areas.

[Anonymous No.14315324]

>>14305719
>they just suck xd
The absolute state of critical thinking in soi people

[Anonymous No.14315518]

>>14314256
Girls can be quite cruel in middle and high school. My schools never really had bullying but I can imagine that might get the ball rolling.

[Anonymous No.14315583]

>ITT chadsplaining

[Anonymous No.14315881]

>>14311012
You've got it backwards. It's the departure from monogamy that creates incels.

[Anonymous No.14315990]

All this 'incel' bullshit is bourgeois vapid school-boy talk and anyone engaging in this sort of discourse ought to be ashamed of himself.
If you believe you are an incel, you are retarded. If you believe someone else is an incel and you feel better than him for not being one, you are retarded too.

[Anonymous No.14316096]

So, who is actually to blame; women, for not lowering their standards, or men, for not improving themselves as much as possible?

[Anonymous No.14316137]

>>14316096
>So, who is actually to blame
1. nature/evolution
2. people who think they're entitled to stuff

[Anonymous No.14316159]

>>14316137
>nature/evolution
So women?

[Anonymous No.14316175]

>>14316159
women and men
inceldom, to exist, needs both

[Anonymous No.14316589]

>>14314859
not in your 1st world nanny states, sounds like you won the lottery if you have some mental illness in America, victim status (highly praised in the West) and free state bux

[Anonymous No.14316598]

>>14316096
Women for not lowering their standards.

The economy is organised to provide good jobs any more. It's primarly part time and freelance work and automation is gutting the rest.

Men can't get jobs that don't exist.

[Anonymous No.14316786]

>>14316096
the cop out answer is
>little bit of both
happiness seems to eventually drift back to a baseline. there have been studies (may be wrong or poorly done) showing lottery winners experiencing a surge of happiness (sharp contrast of no wealth vs lots of wealth) and then having their happiness adjust back to a baseline (new baseline = a lot of wealth).

im not sure how many marriages of the past were unhappy, but it seems most people could ask their great grandparents, they would receive the reply:
>it was not bad. had its ups and downs, but thats life.
at a certain point, you accept your lot in life, and adjust accordingly. very few marriages are breaking down because of a lamenting that
>gosh, imagine if i was married to "extremely high valued person" (e.g. Ariana Grande, Brad Pitt)
modernity has also revised the way we think of marriage. whereas in the past it was viewed as something akin to a contract and means to create a family and produce children, it is now pursued for "love." theres probably validity in the cliche:
>marriage is more than just kittens and rainbows. it requires work, sacrifice, and compromise in order to be maintained.

biology and evolution is amoral. just because something is natural does not mean it is good. there are plenty of natural instincts and behaviors that society curbs.
>dont go around bashing people's head in. to counter this, we have instituted a legal framework and cultural values to enlarge the in-group to extend to the nation.
this presents a problem of hypergamy taken to its logical conclusion. either you share "Chad" with other females, you fail to lock down "Chad" in a long-term monogamous relationship, or you hit the jackpot and do manage to marry "Chad." the numbers dictate the last option as most improbable.
a female who disregards a long term vision of happiness and well-being may end up riding the carousel or hitting far above her weight (inappropriately valued sexual market value from all the attention she gets due to technology and gynocentrism allows her to naively think her equal is "Chad"). after enough time, or a strong incident having disproportionate impact on her (Alpha Widow), it's like taking a drug. past a point, normalcy will never be normal again. you will always have the knowledge of what the super-normal feels like. and often times, a creeping feeling inches up reminding you of how pale your normal indulgences feel in comparison to that hit of morphine.
with the temptation around every corner (there's always a "Chad" willing to cheat/sleep with her, just not settle with her), unfair assessment of her market value based on poor input, and biological hypergamy driving constant thoughts of "i could do better than this chump i married", it doesnt seem unreasonable to think the marriage will eventually fall apart. especially if its not grounded in a context of
>marriage is a lifelong covenant that extends past the self, and requires work, sacrifice, and compromise to maintain.

[Anonymous No.14316804]

>>14301985
based

[Anonymous No.14316809]

>>14314974
Whatever the answer to their problem, it's never a solution for incels.

[Anonymous No.14316845]

>>14316096
>lowering their standards
Changing*, you appear to assume there is only one Universal hierarchy for sexual selection. Let me tell you something; there's as plenty as there are tags in a hentai doujin.

[Anonymous No.14317810]

>>14315225
>literally the most important aspect of nature and society itself
coomer

[Anonymous No.14319285]

>>14301985
based as fuck, it will take a prominent place on my bookshelf

[Anonymous No.14319315]

>>14303895
>an entire publication in reddit spacing

[Anonymous No.14319317]

>>14303895
>double-spaced
jfc

[Anonymous No.14319496]

>>14310439
ss+Gomad

[Anonymous No.14319553]

>>14310326
Bit off topic but the IRA won and made the free state. Unless you were refering to the newer IRA who also won (pic semi related)

[Anonymous No.14319574]

>>14311837
>Okay, nice argument, nice blackpill, i know a guy in a wheelchair who got married to a pretty women.
>What's your answer to this?
Please tell me this is bait.

[Anonymous No.14319774]

>>14307493
Ive actually heard plenty of bluepilled retards try to argue on the contrary.

[Anonymous No.14320270]

>>14319774
No you haven't. Most likely they told you that you can charm women with personality even if you don't have good looks, which is true.

[Anonymous No.14321328]

>>14304639
I mean she's not wrong

[Anonymous No.14321364]

>>14303925
men come out of this image looking worse, because they're the ones throwing away money on e-whores