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What do I need to read before Phenomenology of the spirit? Kant?

>> No.14435127

Read Hume and Kant and Schopenhauer. Don't fall for the Hegel meme.

>> No.14435132

He’s a charlatan. Skip him.

>> No.14435134

read this sentence

now you can read hegel

>> No.14435136

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/edit?usp=drivesdk

>> No.14435139

>>14435122
kant helps but really ignore the prerequisites meme. life is too short to read every philosopher since thales

>> No.14435154

>>14435122
Fichte and Schelling, too.

>> No.14435167

>>14435122
Either start with Hegels Philosophy Of History. Or better yet, start with the Greeks.

>> No.14435670

>>14435122
Lots of Aristotle, Spinoza, lots of Kant, some Fichte and some secondary literature on Schelling.
All of these authors deserve to be read in their own right, of course. Hegel is downright incomprehensinle without them, especially Aristotle and Kant. 90% of his terminology is taken from their works, and he assumes that his readers are thoroughly familiar with them.
Start with some secondary literature on Aristotle to get the hang on the terminology, also try to consult commentaries as much as possible, they'll help you contextualizing what you're reading (you'll find everything you need on sci.hub, if you're too poor to afford expensive books)

tldr: forget about reading Hegel for an year or two

>> No.14435679

>>14435670
Those authors are all boring as fuck though.

>> No.14435772

>>14435122
read introductions as well, there's one book that covers most of german idealism up to hegel so you would get an idea of Fichte and Schelling which is a plus for reading Hegel, then there is Beiser's introduction to Hegel and there are also books on the PoS proper that could help you while reading it (Genesis and structure of Hegel's phenomenology of spirit, the logic of desire by Kalkavage, Hegel's ladder by H.S Harris, Heidegger lectures on the book, audio files of lectures given by J.M Bernstein on thebernsteintapes). I wouldn't recommend Sadler, it's a bit of a waste of time and just not good enough compared to the other ressources I've listed.

>> No.14435837

start with the Greeks

>> No.14435843

>>14435837
Tried this. It did literally nothing to help me with Hegel and I felt like I wasted my time.

>> No.14435885

>>14435127
This but also read Hegel.

>> No.14435897

>>14435122
Just read Stirner and then troll Hegelians.

>> No.14435902

Fuck Hegel just read Kojeve

>> No.14435903

>>14435897
>Stirner
Bold of you to assume OP is 14 years old.

>> No.14435904

>>14435136
Retarded try-hard list by an idiot who should kill himself

>> No.14435908

>>14435903
not bold at all

>> No.14435917

>>14435908
He's a r*dditor, don't engage with him so he leaves

>> No.14435922

>>14435917
Shut up BITCH.

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14436001

are you thinking of becoming an assistant professor?

>> No.14436021

>>14435139
>>14435122
This but read secondary material so that you have some clue of whats happening

>> No.14436022

>>14436021
>secondary material
Retard detected

>> No.14437273

bump

>> No.14437274

the absolute state of /lit/

>> No.14437304

>>14435132
>he doesn't want to become an interdimensional sorcerer playing off the source code of geist

>> No.14437388

>>14435122
I started with no priors but Aristotle and did fine. But I say Eriugena, just to be a contrarian bitch.

>> No.14437829

you must read all of western philosophy up to him

hegel is literally becoming through history, can't ignore the past

>> No.14438179

>>14435885
and Nietzsche too

>> No.14438192

>>14435843
literally how, massive portions of the PoS deal with Hegel commenting on Antigone, and the entire work is rife with implicit references to Plato, Parmenides, and Heraclitus. What kind of Greeks did you start with?

>> No.14438363

>>14438192
zorba

>> No.14438382

The real answer is Aristotle’s Metaphysics and Kant’s Critque of Pure Reason.

>> No.14438396

dont read Hegel if you havent read Kant, dont read Kant if you havent read Aristotle, dont read Aristotle if you havent read Plato

>> No.14439307

>>14435679
Their style might be dry, but you can get used to this type of rigorousness in a matter of months.