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the greatest living philosopher. have you read his work?

>> No.14504047

No, but I have listened to his streams. I'm very entertained by him, the guy is a human encyclopedia

>> No.14504494

>>14504047
based

>> No.14504619

I just checked out his Twitter-- he's against our President, so he can't be that smart.

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>>14504619

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>>14504619
this is you

>> No.14504820

I’m on my third Jorjani book. As another anon put it, the best description of Jorjani is “a daring synthesis of based and cringe”.

>> No.14504828

>>14504820
Which book of his is really worth reading?

>> No.14504849

>>14504033
Yo Jorj please stop posting here

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>>14504828
Prometheus and Atlas if you want something really fringe and out there
Iranian Leviathan if you want something really cringe that still manages to be based somehow
Currently reading Lovers of Sophia which is a collection of essays. So it might be a good place to start. Prometheus and Atlas is fascinating but pretty dense and inaccessible, so I’ll probably have to reread it. Iranian Leviathan was very accessible. Lovers of Sophia is somewhere in between in terms of accessibility. Pic related is from the intro

>> No.14505975

>>14504033
Have sex incel

>> No.14506000
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>>14504033
Pffft, bet he hasn’t even figured out antinatalism yet

>> No.14506109

>>14504033
That's not Slavoj

>> No.14506116

not mcrumps

>> No.14506123

Le 56% amerimutt retconning world history so he can find his place.

>> No.14506155

>>14506000
antinatalism is puritanical nonsense

>> No.14506221

>>14504033
No I have seen numerous interviews on red ice with him though seems p based

>> No.14506243

>>14506155
Its not puritanical at all. How is it puritanical nonsense to not steal and murder? Birth is just another of many things you have no right to impose on another being, not having their consent. And the fact that people cannot consent to being born isn’t just an absurdity, its a paradox.

>> No.14506256

>>14504619
Jorjani is a crypto-Iranian nationalist, afterall, and you have to be that smart to realize that Trump is a puppet for Israel.
>>14504870
P&A isn't that dense, but then again I do have a little understanding of Heidegger but the parts where he talked about Kant and Schelling went over my head. I'm still only halfway through the book though.

>> No.14506261

>>14506256
*don't have to be that smart

>> No.14506262

>>14506243
the gazelle doesn’t consent to being hunted and killed by the lion. stop being a pussy

>> No.14506512

>>14504870
lmfao what the fuck is that

>> No.14506557

>>14506512
my exact reaction when i read it, which is why i screencapped it. this guy completely baffles me, but something keeps drawing me back to read his books. he’s a real anamoly

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>>14506262
No, which is incidentally why it shouldn’t have to come into being either.

>> No.14506592

>>14506584
nietzsche already refuted the very foundation of antinatalism in twilight of the idols. it’s built on faulty premises and a pretension to knowledge one does not possess. just stop

>> No.14506635

>>14506557
is that really from his book? he has some interesting ideas based on his interviews. that just seems absurd though

>> No.14506640

>>14506635
yeah, it’s really from his book, and i agree with you. that’s why i said the best summation of him is “a synthesis of based and cringe”. don’t let the cringe detract from the based, there’s still plenty of based

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>>14504033
Sounds like a cool guy

>> No.14506738

>>14506592
Nietzsche refuted himself by being a whoremonger who died from whoremongering and fruit consumption. Ubermensch my ass.

>> No.14506740

>>14506724
That’s not really chivalry, that’s more of a Middle Eastern / Iranian thing, with regard for insisting on being the one to pay
t. Middle Easterner

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>>14504047

>> No.14506810

>>14506785
The way he makes tangential connections in Iranian Leviathan is headache inducing. He goes from arguing Buddha was a Scythian to Lao Tzu being the same as Buddha. It's littered with a bunch of similar nonsense.

>> No.14506828

>>14506785
Jorjani explicitly accepts and argues for a very late dating of the Gathas, not an early one

>> No.14506830

>>14504033
Where do I start with Jorjani?

>> No.14506832

>>14506256
>crypto
lel there is nothing crypto about his Iranian nationalism

>> No.14506833

>>14506830
Prometheus and Atlas is considered his “magnum opus” (by him lmao)

>> No.14506835

>>14506828
>>14506785
In Iranian Leviathan he argued more for 600 BC for the Zoroastrian Gathas.
He also tends to change his views a lot, which can be hard to keep track of.

>> No.14506837

Why is this hack suddenly getting traction here? If you want to engage with Iran's literary or philosophical tradition at least read a serious author.

>> No.14506843

>>14506832
It's not really nationalism. It's more like a kind of inferiority complex. The way he misinterpreted the complex archeaogenetics indicates a strong degree of inferiority complex. He may be involved in political technologies like Frederick Starr.

>> No.14506844

>>14506837
serious authors are gay and boring, no thanks

>> No.14506850

>>14506844
Cringe

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>>14506785
>His lectures are littered with offhand repetitions of scraps from fictionalized ancient biographies (e.g. "Plato was a member of the Pythagorean order,"
But he was member of the order.

>> No.14506977

>>14506895
He didn't stay in Syracuse long enough to get even close to a Pythagorean initiation, also to do it he would have had to renounce to a good chunk of his philosophy (first and foremost, his Theory of Forms). Later Accademics (according to Aristotle, at least) tried to mix Plato with Pythagoras (through either the identity or the strict correlation between numbers and Ideas), with terrible results, before ending up with skepticism in the 2nd century BC

>> No.14507943

>>14506895
>Algis Uždavinys
Never trust a person with such name and surname.