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14577068 No.14577068 [Reply] [Original]

Explain his ideas and why you shill him

>> No.14577093

Long head

>> No.14577108
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Because I want to see /lit/ working toward more sophisticated discussions on the being-becoming dichotomy and engaging in more indepth intertheological dialogues. Naturally you can't brute force this, and asking direct and honest questions yields little response due to the culture of this website, therefore this action requires a symbol, something that can be immediately recognised as related to such and for it to be presented in a polarising manner to ensure engagement from anons. Guenon is suitable for this role because of the of the breadth of his theorising, his writing from a western perspective, and the fact that he tends to reduce the importance of contemporary Christianity and Buddhism both. This latter fact is what makes his use imperative because /lit/ has always had a consistent Buddhist minority, and in the last few years seen a rise in tradcath discourse, so this being the case Guenon naturally invites challenge.

>> No.14577110

>tradition good
>modernity bad
you now realize why incels love him so much

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>>14577093

>> No.14577122

>>14577110
>tradition good
>modernity bad
you now realize why SSRI trannys hate him so much

>> No.14577142

>>14577108
based

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>>14577068
>Explain his ideas
he's your basic bitch crypto-Theosophist, nothing more to be said

>why you shill him
The resident schizo shills him because his threads got booted off /his/ and then /lit/ 2 years ago (pic related). He hopes that his forced meme will one day get people to read his literary father figure and make traditionalism great (for the first time). Be aware of his incessant samefaggotry which he's doing now here >>14577142 (he does this a lot replying to his own posts with 'based')

>> No.14577149

>>14577068
“René Guénon defies classification. . . . Were he anything less than a consummate master of lucid argument and forceful expression, his work would certainly be unknown to all but a small, private circle of admirers.”
—Gai Eaton, author of The Richest Vein

“Guénon established the language of sacred metaphysics with a rigor, a breadth, and an intrinsic certainty such that he compels recognition as a standard of comparison for the twentieth century.”
—Jean Borella, author of Guénonian Esoterism and Christian Mystery

“To a materialistic society enthralled with the phenomenal universe exclusively, Guénon, taking the Vedanta as point of departure, revealed a metaphysical and cosmological teaching both macrocosmic and microcosmic about the hierarchized degrees of being or states of existence, starting with the Absolute . . . and terminating with our sphere of gross manifestation.”
—Whitall N. Perry, editor of A Treasury of Traditional Wisdom

“René Guénon was the chief influence in the formation of my own intellectual outlook (quite apart from the question of Orthodox Christianity). . . . It was René Guénon who taught me to seek and love the truth above all else, and to be unsatisfied with anything else.”
—Fr. Seraphim Rose, author of The Soul After Death

“His mixture of arcane learning, metaphysics, and scathing cultural commentary is a continent in itself, untouched by the polluted tides of modernity. . . . Guénon’s work will not save the world—it is too late for that—but it leaves no reader unchanged.”
—Jocelyn Godwin, author of Mystery Religions in the Ancient World

“René Guénon is one of the few writers of our time whose work is really of importance. . . . He stands for the primacy of pure metaphysics over all other forms of knowledge, and presents himself as the exponent of a major tradition of thought, predominantly Eastern, but shared in the Middle Ages by the . . . West.”
—Walter Shewring, translator of Homer’s Odyssey

>> No.14577151

>>14577149
>all those literary who's
yawn...

>> No.14577154

>>14577149
“In a world increasingly rife with heresy and pseudo-religion, Guénon had to remind twentieth century man of the need for orthodoxy, which presupposes firstly a Divine Revelation and secondly a Tradition that has handed down with fidelity what Heaven has revealed. He thus restores to orthodoxy its true meaning, rectitude of opinion which compels the intelligent man not only to reject heresy but also to recognize the validity of faiths other than his own if they also are based on the same two principles, Revelation and Tradition.”
—Martin Lings, author of Ancient Beliefs and Modern Superstitions

“If during the last century or so there has been even some slight revival of awareness in the Western world of what is meant by metaphysics and metaphysical tradition, the credit for it must go above all to Guénon. At a time when the confusion into which modern Western thought had fallen was such that it threatened to obliterate the few remaining traces of genuine spiritual knowledge from the minds and hearts of his contemporaries, Guénon, virtually single-handed, took it upon himself to reaffirm the values and principles which, he recognized, constitute the only sound basis for the living of a human life with dignity and purpose or for the formation of a civilization worthy of the name.”
—Philip Sherrard, author of Christianity: Lineaments of a Sacred Tradition

“Apart from his amazing flair for expounding pure metaphysical doctrine and his critical acuteness when dealing with the errors of the modern world, Guénon displayed a remarkable insight into things of a cosmological order. . . . He all along stressed the need, side by side with a theoretical grasp of any given doctrine, for its concrete—one can also say its ontological—realization failing which one cannot properly speak of knowledge.”
—Marco Pallis, author of A Buddhist Spectrum

“Guénon’s mission was two-fold: to reveal the metaphysical roots of the ‘crisis of the modern world’ and to explain the ideas behind the authentic and esoteric teachings that still [remain] alive.”
—Harry Oldmeadow, author of Traditionalism: Religion in the Light of the Perennial Philosophy

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>> No.14577174

>>14577108
keep it up

>> No.14577175

>>14577162
why yes I am Guenonfag and I have successfully made my idol (pbuh) one of the most read and talked about authors on /lit/, how could you tell?

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>> No.14577214

>>14577068
Theosophy without all that brotherhood of men and all races are equal liberal bullshit.

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>> No.14577231

>>14577224
>BRILLIANT MATHEMATICIAN
guenonfag may not have gotten us to read Guenon but boy has he provided us with well earned humour.

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Reminder that this image literally makes advaitafags cry in real life.

>> No.14577529

https://catholicherald.co.uk/magazine/heretic-of-the-week-rene-guenon/

>> No.14577653

>>14577148
I've got to say, I was lost the entire way through this compilation until the bottom. The pictures of shitting indians has really convinced me to join your cause.

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>>14577653
streetshitting is traditional

>> No.14577989

>>14577110
shut up tranny

>> No.14577991

>converts to Islam
>is "based"

nice try shills

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>>14577658

>> No.14578363

>>14577991
he said that he never converted but moved into it because it was spiritually convient, but that him doing so sisnt mean that it was superior to other traditional forms

>> No.14578451

>>14578363
>In 1949, he obtained Egyptian citizenship. Sedgwick wrote about Guénon's life in Egypt that even though he continued his interest in Hinduism and other religions, Guénon's own practice was purely Islamic. He is "not known ever to have recommended anyone to become a Hindu, whereas he introduced many to Islam".[11]
>René Guénon died on Sunday, January 7, 1951; his final word was "Allah".[21]
He was a full blown muslim, get over it Pradeep.

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>>14577108
So basically you're a closet Whiteheadean.

>> No.14578575

>>14577068

> West bad, has no tariq
> East good, has tariq

>> No.14578644

>>14578451
in one of his letters he specifically writes that it was not true that he "converted"

>> No.14578657

>>14577108
could you not provide rational argument on my literature board thanks
>>14577148
someone's in love

>> No.14578668

>>14578644
ok Panjit

>> No.14578673

girardfag was much better than gueonanon. I want to go back

>> No.14578693

>>14578673
Girard is gay, this is a Traditionalist board now, cry some more and see if I care bitch nigga

>> No.14578709

>>14578693
if this was a traditionalist board you'd post real traditionalists and not hacks like guenon.

>> No.14578728

>>14578709
>Guénon was a brainle-
He was proficient at Greek, Latin, English, Italian, German, Spanish, Sanskrit, Hebraic, Arabic and Chinese, was trained in mathematics and was extremely well-read in both eastern and western philosophy
>Guénon was a stupid posing larpe-
He was initiated into both a Vietnamese Taoist Triad as well as the al-'Arabiyya Shadhiliyya Sufi order, furthermore in all his writings he stressed the need for personal and genuine participation in whatever Traditions one aspired to follow. His acquaintances both Egyptian and western observed that he scrupulously followed Islamic observances during his life in Egypt
>Guénon was a literal nobody, he was not influenti-
Among the many western philosophers, artists and authors who were influenced by him or who heaped praise on him include Carl Schmitt, Georges Bataille, Aleksander Dugin, Antonin Artaud, Olavo de Carvalho, André Breton, Mircea Eliade, Alain Danielou, Julius Evola, André Malraux, Albert Gleizes, René Daumal, Raymond Queneau, Paul Ackerman, Huston Smith, William Chittick, Steve Bannon, Harry Oldmeadow, James Cutsinger and Hossein Nasr. Furthermore as Nasr notes in his article 'The Influence of Rene Guenon in the Islamic World', Guénon is well-known and influential among the intelligentsia including traditional Islamic scholars in certain Islamic countries such in Turkey, Iran, Pakistan and Malaysia.
>Guénon just made a bunch of stupid and unjustified comparisons between religio-
To the contrary over the course of some twenty odd books he painstakingly and patiently elucidated the fundamental agreement between the metaphysics of Advaita Vedanta, Taoism, Sufism, Hermeticism and Christian esoterism, work that Coomaraswamy built on and further confirmed

>> No.14578806

>>14578728
you've pasted this before

post something new

>> No.14578869

>>14578728
>Steve Bannon
oh no no no

>> No.14578934

>>14578644
Yes, because he "reverted". You cannot "convert" to your primordial state as a born muslim, which every human is.

>> No.14578936

holy shit the Guenonfag rabbithole keeps getting deeper

>> No.14578940

>>14578936
t. Seguro trying to bump his own thread covertly

>> No.14579175

>>14578728
great post

>> No.14579212

>>14578934
even as an Orthodox Christian i've always loved this line of thought kek

>> No.14579289

>>14579212
If I'm not mistaken, this line of thought comes from a Hadith from the Prophet, in which he doesn't use the word Islam, but mentions that everyone is born with Fitra, implying in it that the primordial nature of humans is Islam- submission to God and knowledge of tawhid.

>" "The Prophet said, 'No one is born except according to intrinsic nature, but their parents make them Jews, or Christians, or Magaians, just as a cow gives birth to a calf that is whole do you find it mutilated?'

There is something quite universalist in such statements, and you can find diverse such incidents, if you seek well, even in the Qu'ran itself.

"(We take our) colour from Allah, and who is better than Allah at colouring. We are His worshippers."

>> No.14579493

punished guenonfag timeline:

2018
>Buddhism has not really degenerated. There are some east Asian schools that have become too 'religious' and some Theravada schools may have become a little too westernized in thought but there are still tens of millions of practicing Traditional Buddhists.

2019
>It's been 24 hours and none of you ming-mongs have replied to this. All the more embarrassing considering YoU CaN't HaVe Up WiThOuT dOwN mY dUdEz loooooollzzlz lmafaooo :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!1!111! was intended to be the epic GOTCHA retort. Writhing animals.

2020
>LOL U MAD??? BASED EPIC. seethe CRINGE le epic guenon (pbuh) XDDDd
>(replying to above) Based... Thank you so much for this post my good friend... I will begin reading guenon immediately...

>> No.14579852

>>14579493
Guenonfag here..... I'm already in a relationship, I'm sorry

>> No.14579914

>>14577149
>“René Guénon was the chief influence in the formation of my own intellectual outlook (quite apart from the question of Orthodox Christianity). . . . It was René Guénon who taught me to seek and love the truth above all else, and to be unsatisfied with anything else.”
—Fr. Seraphim Rose, author of The Soul After Death
Damn!

>> No.14581099

what is the thought process of a shill? why do they do it?

>> No.14581480

>>14581099
Well depends on the type of shill
In this case the shill in question wants to spread what he believes is the answer to everything, like a cult believer he is.