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14678801 No.14678801 [Reply] [Original]

I bear witness that there is no self but Self and Shankara is the final messenger of Brahman (ॐ)

>> No.14678809

>>14678801
Wow, Guenonposter looks like THAT?

>> No.14678814

>white Hindus
Embarassing. The only religion that increases a whites chad-level is Islam

>> No.14678815
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14678815

>>14678801
based!

>> No.14678837
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>>14678809
like father like son

>> No.14678842

this has nothing to do with literature, you mouth breathing poo

>> No.14678873
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>>14678842
>*solves metaphysics*
nothing personal mleccha

>> No.14678941

>>14678873
>doing the alt right hand symbol
isn't that uhhhh pretty problematic much????

>> No.14678977

I go about my day, not really giving a fuck about anybody else or what they're doing, I just let life pass by like that, y'know - living day to day. If I see you doing something cool, something that grabs my attention, I dig it - yeah I might (emphasis on the word might) toss you a Based. It's not like I'm short on Based, I just don't like givin' em to everyone you know, got tons of 'em, coming out the wazoo if ya know what I mean, it's just gotta be something pretty damn special to earn it. For instance - Guénon meme, heh... Based... Peterson... that's a Based, Greeks with yeah man that's Basedy Based Based. I mean I'm really just throwing out Based all the time, that is, unless I have to hit you with the Cringe. You know what I mean - booktubers and Gravity's Rainbow posting... Cringe, Jannies deleting threads... whoa whoa slow down with the Cringe over there! Jeez it's too much to take!
I just take my time going around this board, pointing out the things that are Based, pointing out the things that are Cringe, chilling. I guess you could say I'm influential, magnetic, important, I'm all of these things, but first and foremost - I'm hella Based.

And you? Well are you Based, or are you Cringe? Because at the moment, I can't tell...

>> No.14678982

>>14678814
Fuck off satan.

>> No.14678985

>>14678814
The funny thing is that Hinduism was supposedly a white mans religion, I guess it all comes full circle.

>> No.14678987

>>14678873
Wow so funny.

>> No.14678997

>>14678985
indeed, take a look at the average indian, I can't tell the difference between them and Norwegians

>> No.14679339

>>14678997
India was ruled by whites in antiquity

>> No.14679478

madhyamaka>advaita
śunya not brahman ok
simple as.

>> No.14679598
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>>14679478
Madhyamaka was retroactively refuted, see the right side of this picture for an excerpt from an article by a professor of Buddhism who showed that Nagarjuna uses inconsistent logic and contradicts himself in the MMK, and who showed that Nagarjuna completely failed at proving the contradiction of other schools ideas in the MMK. If you want to believe in sunyata for religious reasons you are free to make that choice but there is absolutely no logical or epistemological basis for it and Madhyamaka is full of contradictions and unanswered questions.

>> No.14679935

>>14679598
>Nagarjuna completely failed at proving the contradiction of other schools ideas in the MMK
nigga those other schools did not exist yet.

They had like 800 years to find a bunch of workarounds and copes against Nagarjuna's arguments.

>> No.14680006

>>14679935
That writing on the right side is not critiquing Nagarjuna's ideas from the perspective of any one school but is simply pointing out fatal holes and inconsistencies in Nagarjuna's own logic. If Nagarjuna was correct it wouldn't be possible to logically refute him so. Meanwhile nobody has ever been able to logically disprove any of Shankara's reasoning as laid out in his writings.

>> No.14680117

>>14678801
So this is what guenonfag wants for us?

>> No.14680763

>>14678977
Based

>> No.14680819

>>14678997
The best Indians still look sort of white at least I as a Slav often feel Indians have features that to me seem very "domestic", and I don't feel this from looking at western Europeans. But regardless they are almost all poo colored.

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>>14678801
"Alright if there is anything such as a non-dual state or have gone beyond mind why the hell are you describing that state as long bliss beatitude you are selling your own brand of cigarettes fooling us all and telling us all it is nicotine free but they are also cigarettes" - UG Krishnamurti

>> No.14681138

>>14678985
The Vedic religion of sacrifice was. Hinduism is the slave religion based on the order imposed on the Dravidians by the whites.

>> No.14681248
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>>14681128
>Whatever pursuit you are indulging in, somewhere along the line it has to dawn on you that it is not leading you anywhere. As long as you want something, you will do that. That want has to be very, very clear. What do you want? All the time I ask you the question, "What do you want?" You say, "I want to be at peace with myself." That is an impossible goal for you because everything you are doing to be at peace with yourself is what is destroying the peace that is already there. You have set in motion the movement of thought which is destroying the peace that is there, you see. It is very difficult to understand that all that you are doing is the impediment, is the one thing that is disturbing the harmony, the peace that is already there

>If you are freed from the goal of the "perfect" ,"godly", "truly religious" then that which is natural in man begins to express itself. Your religious and secular culture has placed before you the ideal man or woman, the perfect human being, and then tries to fit everybody into that mold. It is impossible. Nature is busy creating absolutely unique individuals, whereas culture has invented a single mold to which all must conform. It is grotesque

>Political institutions and ideologies are the warty outgrowth of the religious thinking of the man; in a way responsible for the tragedy of mankind. We are slaves to our ideas and beliefs, and we torture ourselves in the hope of achieving something. All our experience, spiritual or otherwise, is the basic cause of our suffering... The body is not interested in anything "you" are interested in; that is the battle that is going on all the time.

>The fact is that we don't want to be free. What is responsible for our problems is the fear of losing what we have and what we know. All these therapies, all these techniques, religious or otherwise, are only perpetuating the agony of man.

>> No.14681279

>>14678801
I bear witness to a text that announces the final messenger.

Yet is this the final message? Or will the half-truths of fools utter further into this existence, new so-called prophets and so-called messengers, struggling to claim their word as final.

No man can speak against the vastness of the array.
Mortal flesh cannot comprehend that which it cannot even be considered part of.

May death walk with us unto the end where we might fight what we search for.

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>>14679598
>by a professor of Buddhism who
was a Buddhist himself

>> No.14681740

>>14678814
Um, ever hear of Gnostic Christianity you demiurge worshipping cuck?

>> No.14681869

>>14681740
Take pills. Spiritualism can't save you

>> No.14681875

>>14681740
>literally LARPing
I bet you’re afraid to even proclaim you’re gnostic to your parents, soiboy

>> No.14682053

>>14678814
Go fuck a goat.

>> No.14682347

>>14681138
>Hinduism is the slave religion based on the order imposed on the Dravidians by the whites.
If that's true then why do all the Dharma-sastras texts which codifies caste-rules like the Manusmriti and Yajnavalkyasmriti all prescribe for the higher castes much more onerous responsibilities and restrictions and even more severe punishments for breaking laws, whereas for the lower castes they proscribe comparatively little rules like not going near Brahmins and proscribe much less severe punishments compared to the upper castes? The punishments for crimes in the Dharma-sastras increase in severity the higher up one is in caste. That's the exact opposite of what you would expect if Hinduism was a slave religion forced on India.

>> No.14682387

>>14682347
How come in 1984 the inner and outer circles were heavily monitored and controlled while the proles had non-stop entertainment, parties and sexual promiscuity?

>> No.14682394

>>14682053
Go tend to your trannies, fag parades and broken families, kafir

>> No.14682396
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14682396

Shankara is considered by most Hindus to be a heretical crypto-buddhist. Scholars agree that he basically just ripped off Buddhism.

Stop LARPing as a Hindu you crypto-buddhist neovedanta fag. Read something other than theosophy books written by westerners.

>> No.14682413

>>14682347
>defending caste systems as a non-Hindu living in America

Larp harder. https://youtube.com/watch?v=4MK5o9Vhiqk

>> No.14682415

>>14682396
Buddhism was retroactively refuted see >>14679598 nobody takes it seriously anymore, you can keep posting "muh Shankara stole from a refuted illogical philosophy!!!" but it won't make a difference

>> No.14682417

>>14681875

I told my Dad I was Gnostic when I was 15 and he called me a heretic

>> No.14682419
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>>14682413
maybe if they didn't want that job they shouldn't have committed whatever actions in their previous life which caused them to be born into that situation!

>> No.14682457

>>14682387
That's not a proper equivalence because the lower castes did not have non-stop parties, entertainment etc provided for them but rather worked as farmers and laborers, and also because the higher castes rules who self-enforced by the people who were subject to them instead of being enforced by an autocratic overseer who was above them.

>> No.14682470

>>14682457
It was not meant to be a 1 to 1 comparison but rather an invitation for you to think because there is a similarity. You don't burden your slaves with too many rules, they are not designed for that. They are a profitable undifferentiated mass that is only required to follow the broadest of outlines to complete their function.

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14682498

>>14678814
Wow what a chad

>> No.14682595

>>14678873
now imagine if he was holding teh iPhone 12

>> No.14682602

>>14682394

Keep living your lie, faggot. It's so funny how you are literally too stupid to think for your own self.

You need a fucking book written by a pedophile to tell you how to live your life. Bravo. Bravo.

>> No.14682616

>>14681875
lmao, they know, unlike you I'm not a projecting cuck who lives in his parent's shadow too afraid to live his own life.

>> No.14682648

>>14682616
Lol i want his parents to immediately embrace the loudest, most ostentatious version of his hinduism possible.

Literal Samsara.

>> No.14682660

>>14681248
But isn't this line of thinking compatible with a certain interpretation of, say, the Upanisads and the Gita? I have read only a selection of Upanisads, and only in translation, but there is this recurrent idea that the ultimate reality is simply the self that lies behind all forms of perception, and is hence by definition immune to any sort of perception. When the Upanisads get to the topic of atman and brahman, they seem to ask you simply to sit with them as brute facts, and some explicitly deny that any form of esoteric procedure will get you to turn your per- or con-ceptual powers towards them.

Similarly, while one might take Krsna as imposing an "ideal" of the karmayogic man upon Arjuna, one could also read him as simply the faculty inside every human being that makes them functional, a Schopenhaur/Nietzschean Will. And fundamentally, every good piece of poetry is doing its humble part to regain the original immediacy with which man beheld the world. So I think that leading a contemplative or a bookish life is fine, as long as you realize that it's just a way of occupying yourself, and that you probably will not derive a really transformative or transcendent Enlightenment from it.

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>>14678814
Based

>> No.14682958

>>14678801
fags like pic related hate on Christianity but then fall for Eastern mumbo jumbo, fucking stupid

>> No.14682968

>>14682958
Sometimes I wonder what it feels like this to be this ignorant again. Oh well

>> No.14682991

>>14682498
seethe harder. you probably cant even grow a beard

>> No.14682997

>>14682958
Guenon didnt hate Christianity though

>> No.14683005

>>14682991
Don't hate me because I got pork and Henny.

Hate me because even if i'm gay, i can still pee straight.

>> No.14683014

>>14681740
>>14682417
>>14682616
Shiiet looks like Gnosticism has turned into the same cringy circlejerk larp that regular Christianity fell for.
Ill stick to Islamic Neoplatonism

>> No.14683099

>>14682660
>you probably will not derive a really transformative or transcendent Enlightenment from it.
Nah, if you lock yourself up long enough with your books schizophrenia will show you the way.

>> No.14683171

>>14683014
>Islamic Neoplatonism

How is this not a larp as well?

>> No.14683187

>>14683171
Only as much as all religion is a larp.
But Neoplatonism was huge during the Golden age of Islam dude, Sufis and Shias digged it.
S*nnifags could barely get their brainlet heads around Aristotle

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>>14683187
Sufis are for effeminate s󠀀oyboys

>> No.14683409

>>14678837
don't remember this episode of Peep Show

>> No.14683488

>>14683187
Mulla Sadra synthesized Avicenna, Suhrawardi & Ibn Arabic into a Process Neoplatonic Existentialism, way ahead of his time.

>> No.14683493

>>14683488
>Ibn Arabic
Ibn Arabi*

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>>14683307
cope

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>>14683488
Thanks ill have a look at his work. I like the General idea of Shiism but have gripes with the fact that they have split shiism into countless sects for every time a new Imam was elected.

Ive recently been looking into a Golden Age Ismaili group called the "Bretheren of Purity" who seem pretty good

>> No.14683521

>>14679339
Source

>> No.14683526

>>14683521
Indo-Iranians were white. Their proto-Hindu religion was a remnant of the Atlantean religion

>> No.14684173

>>14683526
>Atlantean religion
cringe

>> No.14684179

>>14678801
Hinduism: the belief that one day, for no reason, god fell apart into a bazillion pieces and forgot who he was.
What kind of weak god has such limited power? Pathetic.

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>>14684173

>> No.14684283

>>14684252
Welp, it must be true, somebody on 4chin said so.

>> No.14684308

>>14684252
Way tl; dr

>> No.14684322

>>14682958
Christianity is weak and the "eastern mumbo jumbo" is correct. Do you think your crucified heeb is really coming back to life? Delusional.

>> No.14684326

>>14683488
>Process
cringe

>> No.14684332

>>14682347
>if they are in charge then why do they have so much responsibilities?

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>>14684322
>coming back to life
He already did.

>> No.14684429

>>14678837
ken wheeler is great

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>>14684429
>ken wheeler is great

>> No.14684721
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The Buddha towers over the Asian skyline

>> No.14684725
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Meanwhile, Shankara is to be found in some cheap antique store

>> No.14684759

>>14684721
That's a pretty cool swastika tattoo he has.

>> No.14684936

>>14684725
>as if cheap dinky trinket buddhas aren't found in every sort of remotely alternative-lifestyle related establishment

>> No.14685694

>>14684179
>Hinduism: the belief that one day, for no reason, god fell apart into a bazillion pieces and forgot who he was.
That's incorrect. In the most influential schools of Hindu theology (Advaita and Vishishtadvaita) the Supreme Self, i.e. God is not subject to ignorance and transmigration. Advaita further adds that God never is divided up and is completely immutable and indivisible and only seems to give rise to the world via it's power of maya while in reality remaining the One without a second