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/sci/ here. Can /lit/ prove a simple inequality?

>> No.14810535
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>>14810509
A is for asinine
B is for bitch
C is for cuck
I fucking love science!

>> No.14810534

Yeah, whenever a black or a woman posts you can instantly tell they're inferior.

>> No.14810570

a = 0, b>0, c>0
a = 0, b<0, c<0
a>0, b = 0, c>0
a>0, b = a, c>-a
Also a highly non-trivial solution where all three are greater than 0 that can only be resolved numerically

>> No.14810588

/lit/ here. can /sci/ "prove" anything?

>> No.14810620

easy breezy
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=a%2F%28b%2Bc%29%2Bb%2F%28a%2Bc%29%2Bc%2F%28a%2Bb%29%3E%3D+3%2F2

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>>14810620
easy!

>> No.14810652

>>14810534
>>14810535
>>14810570
>>14810588
>>14810620
>>14810638
OP here. Looks like you're struggling. Do you need any help? Perhaps a hint?

>> No.14810701

how to solve inequality with multiple variables without graphing

>> No.14810704

my cock = your mother's vagina
Q.E.D

>> No.14810723

Cauchy-Schwarz baddabing baddaboom

>> No.14810832

I do not identify with /lit/ but I will still say that it's trivial after you make it one fraction with all three variables.

>> No.14810853
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14810853

of course, mathfag! here it is! oh, blast! oh, rats! confound it all. it looks like the monkey has obstructed my proof again! i suppose this will have to do! good day!

>> No.14810867

>>14810853
uh oh stinke

>> No.14810926

>>14810509
> prove an inequality
> prove
> three variables

lol

>> No.14810979

>tfw to intelligent to believe in math

>> No.14811064
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>>14810509
I give up bros I have actual homework to do

>> No.14811108

>>14810509

a = 1
b = 0
c = -2

>> No.14811113

>>14811108
Counterexample proves the statement false.

>> No.14811178

>>14811064
If you are a casewise intuitionist monkey then a = b+d = c+d is your next step

>> No.14811426

>>14811108
OP btfo

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>>14810509
Bruh.
Let a= 0, c= 1, b<0

Disproven by a contradiction.

>> No.14811552

There is nothing really to prove. The system works as it is if that conditions is fulfilled.

t. engineer with passion for literature

>> No.14811602

>>14811552
This
Wtf are you guys doing

>> No.14811668

>>14811552
>engineer

Dropped

>> No.14811926

>>14810509
now what exactly is the point of this? mental exercise? just because you're bored, maybe?

>> No.14811931

>>14811926
it's called trolling/shitposting

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>>14810509
It's a geometric triangle problem.

>> No.14812950

>>14810509
t := a+b+c
a(a+c)(a+b)+b(b+c)(a+b)+c(b+c)(a+c)
= t[(t-b)(t-c)+(t-a)(t-c)+(t-a)(t-b)] -
[(t-a)(t-b)(t-c) + (t-b)(t-a)(t-c) + (t-c)(t-a)(t-b)]

4t^2 = (3t-a-b-c)^2 = (t-a)^2+(t-b)^2+(t-c)^2 + 2[(t-b)(t-c)+(t-a)(t-c)+(t-a)(t-b)]
(t-a)^2+(t-b)^2+(t-c)^2 = (b+c)^2+(a+c)^2+(a+b)^2 = 2(a^2+b^2+c^2) + 2(bc+ac+ab)
t^2 = (a+b+c)^2 = a^2+b^2+c^2 + 2(bc+ac+ab)
(t-a)^2+(t-b)^2+(t-c)^2 = t^2 + (a^2+b^2+c^2)
4t^2 = t^2 + (a^2+b^2+c^2) + 2[(t-b)(t-c)+(t-a)(t-c)+(t-a)(t-b)]
2[(t-b)(t-c)+(t-a)(t-c)+(t-a)(t-b)] = 3t^2 - (a^2+b^2+c^2)

2[a(a+c)(a+b)+b(b+c)(a+b)+c(b+c)(a+c)]
= t[3t^2 - (a^2+b^2+c^2)] - 6(t-a)(t-b)(t-c)

(t-a)(t-b)(t-c) = t^3 - t^2(a+b+c) + t(bc+ac+ab) - abc = t(t^2-(a^2+b^2+c^2))/2 - abc

2[a(a+c)(a+b)+b(b+c)(a+b)+c(b+c)(a+c)] - 3(a+b)(a+c)(b+c)
= t[3t^2 - (a^2+b^2+c^2)] - 9t[t^2-(a^2+b^2+c^2)] + 18abc = -6t^3 +8 t(a^2+b^2+c^2) + 18 abc

so all that's left to show is
-3(a+b+c)^3+8(a+b+c)(a^2+b^2+c^2) + 18abc ≥ 0
which is a trivial exercise left to the reader

>> No.14813223

>>14810509
What's the point? Why waste the time?

>> No.14813243

>>14813223
This breaks the /sci/tard.

>> No.14813343

>>14810853
The only good post. Although the fact that you know the exact name of this inequality suggests you didn't find the solution yourself but rather googled it.
>>14813223
Because it's fun! Sometimes I forget that I'm on /lit/ where people don't understand what fun is.

>> No.14813355

>>14813223
"HUUR DURR LOOK AT MY TEST TUBE!!!
I SPENT 25 YEARS STUDYING DOG POOP AND OBSCURE MATHEMATICS WITH NO REAL APPLICATION I'M SO SMURRRT!!!!"

>> No.14813368

>>14813355
>>14813243
>>14811926
absolutely seething!

>> No.14813786

>>14813343
>Because it's fun!
And heroin is even more fun. Doing something because it is fun is not a good reason. It means you're an NPC doing it as a long convoluted chain of operant and classical conditioning for a bit of reward. The fact you never questioned why you should waste your time on this and your only answer to this question when someone asks it is "dude fun", shows how pathetic /sci/ bugmen really are.

>> No.14813823

>>14813368
>comes here
>gets BTFO
>s-seething

>> No.14813873

>>14810509
>that 24 year old /sci/ college dropout moother who thinks math is real

>> No.14813969

>>14813223
Literal autism

>> No.14813972

>>14813969
This is autism >>14810509
This is wisdom >>14813223

>> No.14813984

>>14813786
you're autistic

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OP here. Literally laughing at all of your abysmal maths skills. Literature is truly the eternal cope for brainlets.
>why would I waste my time like that
You realize the same exact thing could be said about literature? You only chose to like literature because you weren't smart enough to get maths.

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>>14813990
Why are you here? Just to make fun of us? That's cruel. I did quite well at Maths at school, but I probably do not have your skills. I wish I were better at Maths, but I am not. I wish I had your skills, but I don't. The world is a trying place. And I don't need you to constantly remind me of what I want out of life but cannot have. Unless you have a way of making me better at Maths, please leave.

>> No.14814031

>>14810588
O fuck

>> No.14814046

>>14813990
>you weren't smart enough to get maths.
The big time brains are all going into gene editing now. Pure Maths is the preserve of cat ladies and autistic men. You know this to be true.

>> No.14814088

>>14813990
If you're so smart to post Nesbitt's inequality here, try ro prove any other case of Shapiro's inequality without googling.

>Btw proof is half trivial by rearengement

>> No.14814390

>>14810509
a, b, c equal 1

>> No.14814404

>>14810509
Pretty sure I learned how to do these in high school but that was a couple years ago and I've never needed to solve one since. /sci/, why should I want to prove this inequality?

>> No.14814493

>>14814390
A= B = C a>= 1, op please respond

>> No.14814528

>>14813990
Except literature can be justified and it takes no effort.

>> No.14814529

>>14810509
if a, b and c = 1, then you get 3/2?

>> No.14814614

>>14810509
Math is for brainlets. Case in point: Goethe was so bad at math he remained convinced til the end of his life that he had BTFO'd Newton's color theory with his own, even though his was basically laughed at and Newton's theory clearly won the day.

The best mathematicians are basically illiterate in any other subject. Just look at their pathetic and abortive attempts to draw real world conclusions from their calculations. Too be good at math you have to be satisfied to use the tiniest part of your brain and forsake the rest. In academia mathematics is the equivalent of factory line work. Plato thought that mathematics was good mental exercise for children but clearly not a serious enterprise for a full-functioning adult.

It has even been noted that the more influential "mathematicians" were not very interested in math or very good at it--and even these were basically brainlets in every other subject (take Einstein, take Maxwell). This is because math is glorified sudoku. Math proofs are in the same tier as newspaper crossword puzzles. No one who actually wants to contribute to the inheritance of humanity would waste their time with it.

>> No.14814655

>>14814614
Based

>> No.14814681

>>14810509
I'm to smart for maths and to lazy to try the autismo syntax of math that being said I'd say you have to choice a variable and put everything on function of it

>> No.14814926

>>14814614
>The best mathematicians are basically illiterate in any other subject

It seems that you don't realise the following were mathematicians:
Pythagoras, Archimedes, Thales, Newton, Leibniz, Pascal, Descartes, Von Neumann

>> No.14814947

>>14813990
OP too stupid to live, forgot the important part of the statement, which is a,b,c > 0. Statement trivially shown to be false.
>>14811459
>>14811113
>>14811108

>> No.14814967

>>14814614
uh oh stinky

>> No.14814981

>>14814947
>>14811113
>>14811459
based.

>> No.14815218

>>14813990
Difference is that you're trying to impose this challenge upon others, who are such responding with 'why'? The question is not why would I bother pursuing mathematics or any other activity (as you've interpreted it), but why should I carry out this particular task of which you've put forward for them. The superficially rather simple question is really asking you, the OP, why you've assumed that these people - or anyone for that matter - should care to attempt to 'win' your acclamation.

Also why would you assume a passion for literature and mathematics is mutually exclusive?

>You only chose to like literature because you weren't smart enough to get maths.

So you mould your 'likes' around what you deem would most prove your intelligence, either to yourself or others I presume. Then what is this intelligence to which you aspire to? Do you think that some are born 'more intelligent' (and able to 'get' maths) and others not? I disagree, other than marginal differences in brain structure and cognitive performance, I suspect that most can rise to the highest levels of mathematical proficiency if they truly chose, all levels of complexity in mathematics are made up of simple assumptions and steps at heart which anyone can accomplish