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It's been a year since /ourgal/ destroyed Evola and dragged the entire -alt-right- with him. The right hasn't recovered since. How is she so good? Is she the next ContraPoints?

Feel free to try to defend Evola's works from her scathing attacks, but I doubt you can. She made Revolt Against the Modern World look like it was written by a down syndrome child. LMAO.

https://youtu.be/BWJjQZplTno

>> No.14950988

>>14950983
A walking argument for strict eugenics right there.

>> No.14950989

Evola is not a philosopher in the first place and to label him one shows this decrepit man is absolutely retarded.

>> No.14950993

>>14950983
Does Evola even qualify as a philosopher? I consider that stuff to be basically religion

>> No.14950999

>It's been a year since /ourgal/ destroyed Evola and dragged the entire -alt-right- with him. The right hasn't recovered since. How is she so good? Is she the next ContraPoints?

So what you're saying is, it's not 2019 anymore?

>> No.14951002

I was going to watch the video but I saw the thumbnail calling Evola a fascist and now I know she has nothing of value to say.

>> No.14951007

>>14950983
this isn't actually a she is it

>> No.14951011

>>14950983
>It's been a year since /ourgal/
That's has to be a tranny.

>> No.14951012

>>14950983
>dead as a derogatory
Daily reminder that the dead are always, no matter what, more valid in their work than the living.

>> No.14951016

>>14951007
It's a very pretty jewish girl, I have no idea what you're talking about.

>> No.14951017

>>14951011
Leftist women are just that ugly.

>> No.14951018

>>14950983
>she

>> No.14951019
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>>14950983
Why is it always fucking white people doing the tranny shit?

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14951021

This comment kills /lit/...

>> No.14951032
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I always see Evola being dropped here but I have never read his work. What's a good starting point?

>> No.14951033

>>14951021
>not a single argument
>only ad hominems and shame tactics
woman detected

>> No.14951035

>>14951019
Look at that beak, nigger. That's how you tell a white person from a jew.

>> No.14951037

>>14951021
Jordan Peterson's addiction to benzo is the modern equivalent to Evola walking about during bombing raids. Truly his successor.

>> No.14951041

>>14951021
These people are so fucking boring

>> No.14951044

>>14951032
The Mystery of the Grail: Initiation and Magic in the Quest for the Spirit

>> No.14951045

>>14950983
>the voice
physiognomy is valid to the degree it shows this person to be a deranged lunatic

>> No.14951048

>>14951035
You know it’s always whites doing the ancom tranny shit, followed closely by Jews. My main point is still why?

>> No.14951050

Why are alt righters so easily provoked?

>> No.14951054

>>14951032
Either Revolt Against the Modern World or the Handbook of Tradtional living my Raido which is essentially a more condensed and readable Revolt so it serves as a great introduction to Evola.

>> No.14951060

>>14951050
Because looking at trannies strikes a strong sense of physical revulsion in normal human beings and looking at them is akin to gawking at an 18th century side show

>provoked

Not really, just hear to throw peanuts at the freak

>> No.14951065

>>14951044
Why would you recommend a book that explicitly references other books like Revolt to explain core ideas like polarity? I don't think whoever made that stupid little meme graph actually studied Evola.

>> No.14951068

>>14951021
>namedrop, buzzword, namedrop, buzzword, namedrop, buzzword buzzword, namedrop buzzword
>=
>X source is friendly to Y demographic

>> No.14951073

>>14951021
Their obsession with Peterson always makes me lol, Peterson if anything dissuades 'at risk' young men from going full fascist.

They don't seem to understand that the number one thing making young men reject progressivism is literally just having to be around progressives, observing the way they behave in real life and online. Then they go searching around for something new to latch onto, and Peterson is very far from the actual dissident stuff.

>> No.14951078

>>14951048
There's plenty of black shemales actually. They stick to the black parts of twitter and shit, how many blacks do you find in intellectual circles anyway?

But it's also pushed on whites by the jews as warfare tactic. Check out who funds tranny book reading hour and crap, who makes the porn. Some of them do get high on their own supply though.

>> No.14951081

>>14951021
People who spell "foreword" as "forward" deserve the rope

>> No.14951082

>>14950999
It's year 0 on the new corona timeline.

>> No.14951088

>>14951073
Peterstein is aiming specifically for de-radicalisation, I think they go after him to give him credibility as opposition.

>> No.14951096

>>14951060

Everything she said in the video is accurate though

>> No.14951104

>>14951078
>There's plenty of black shemales actually.
I only realized this when people were going on about the number of black trans people killed last year (almost exclusively by other blacks in the hood btw) and how their names were supposed to be made more public or something.

>> No.14951116

>>14950983
I liked this video and I feel confident in liking it since no here has actually offered a rebuttal to anything substantial, just her looks.

>> No.14951141

>>14951116
Facts.

>> No.14951175

>>14951116
"This goes against contemporary capitalist progressivism that is solely employed by large corporations trying to make themselves seem moral."
>God he should just have sex (with an old hag like me) or something.

>> No.14951178

>>14951104
Yeah, on average they're just less noticeable due to how masculine black women already look, easier to pass for them lol. Apparently there are tons of them.

>> No.14951227

>>14951096
Oh ok

I was talking about how uncanny valley the troid looks though

>> No.14951236

>>14951116
>I feel confident in liking something based on group approval

Average mush brained tranny

>> No.14951247

>>14950983
Funny how she chose "dead" as an insult, as if that was something contemptible
Maybe she was going to do "dead white male", but had to drop the last two as too obvious

>> No.14951259

>>14951088
The system purposefully obfuscates how branches connect. The vast majority aren't told and don't work out what the purpose of their demonization. Most of it is just neurotic. Twitter and the like has ruined the illusion of globohomo administrators having a holistic view of their master plan. You can now find CIA/FBI agents who reveal themselves to be spinsters calling themselves dumbledore's army. The callous men in black suits steeped in classified intel is all mythology.

If it weren't for the enginnerars is somehow supports, modernity wouldn't function at all. The administrators are profoundly incompetent and disorganized.

>> No.14951314

Is this the power of breadtube?

>> No.14951324

>>14951019
It's far more common in Iran and Thailand dipshit.

>> No.14951355 [DELETED] 

>>14951324
Brazil

>> No.14951375

>>14950983
>The right hasn't recovered since
Who even is she? She looks like a Jewish Princess Leigha on crack

>> No.14951506

>>14950983
Looks even uglier than Contrapoints, didn't think that was possible desu, quite an achievement... otherwise, literally who is this poser bitch?

>> No.14951514

>>14951021
It's true it's very bad, it even makes arguments on this board sound big-brained

>> No.14951529

>>14951314
-small number of views
-massive number of dislikes
Yup, that sounds about right

>> No.14951637

>>14951021
i fucking hate how leftists act like they support islam. fuck you, degenerate

t. ACTUAL MUSLIM WHO ACTUALLY FOLLOWS THE QURAN

>> No.14951658

>>14951016
Ok I think I can see where Adolf was coming from now.

>> No.14951664

>>14950983
She looks like hunter scangarelo from the sopranos

>> No.14951682

>>14950988
Isn't HRT a kind of Darwin award?

>> No.14951692

>>14950983
is this nigga a ghost? holy white!

>> No.14951718

>>14951658
kek

>> No.14951728

>>14951065
What do you recommend to start with? Do I have to read a bunch of Hindu texts to understand his work?

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I spent about a minute total skimming the video, anymore and I think my breakfast would shoot onto my desk having to look at this tranny.
One his worst crimes is mischaracterizing fascism, a common error among lefties who obfuscate the fact that fascism isn't a broad right wing reactionary movement, among there use of words like "demagogue." But that's the way their brains work. They don't realize that fascism has no one "figure," like Marx, that everything branches out from.
Evola wasn't a strict fascist, but I don't really care for him, so I don't know much about him.

Fascism is inherently syncretic. It's actually very modernist in a sense, though it adapts many things and aims to preserve traditions, but not in a strict way. And you can see this in their artwork. It's very modernist. It's also why, when fascists and similar groups come about, they have a "uniform," or something that's a novel identification, and they construct a whole new style in arts and ceremony, with new symbols. This even happened in Britain with Mosley, they came in with uniforms.
This syncretism extends to politics. Fascists are not capitalistic, rather they make "concessions" towards communism is some areas, while rebuffing it in its core thesis. Specifically, the fascists would not simply say all critique against capitalism is wrong. And this is something Evola would align with, that capitalism is subversive, because modern capitalism isn't really a traditional aspect of society. Notice also, that fascism grew out of Socialist wings, not traditional right wing ones, like monarchism. That's where Mussolini got his start, and the fascists tended to feed on them. Hitler even talks about techniques he used to get communists to come to their meetings for recruitment, like using the color red, though he abhorred communists.
That's why fascist states tend to be authoritarian, but not totalitarian. The states have great authority, but they do not exert total control in every aspect of society like communism does. There's still a degree of free market, and even some room for disagreement. Even the Nazis (though not strictly fascist) had some in party disagreements that were left peacefully, which would never be so in the USSR.

So fascists cannot be properly characterized in the heart of the right wing, at all, though I would say it's a right wing system (though the idea of wings is relative), not even in the heart of right wing reactionary politics.

>> No.14951803

>>14951021
>takes the time to use punctuation
>doesn't bother to capitalize
Why do people do this?

>> No.14951805

>>14951728
Start with Revolt.

>> No.14951907

>>14951044
>>14951054
Thanks, Anons. I'll try to start with Revolt Against the Modern World.

>> No.14951945

>>14950983
I dare this swine to critique the great works of Guenon

>> No.14951975

>>14951658
kek

>> No.14951993

>>14951021
That's a roundabout way to say that /lit/ is full of edgy zoomers and oldfags that never grew out of their philosophy phase.

>> No.14952000

>>14951178
lmao blacks BTFO

>> No.14952009

>>14951247
>Funny how she chose "dead" as an insult, as if that was something contemptible
Exactly. I don't get this shit.

>> No.14952013

>>14950983
Baudrillard is our favorite philosopher

>> No.14952034

>>14950983
Everyone involved in this is embarassing Tbh.

>> No.14952050

>>14952034
no u

>> No.14952069

>>14951247
It'd be extremely dubious to call Sicilians "White" in the American sense considering that during Evola's lifetime Sicilians were considered swarthy second-hand citizens in the USA. Not only that, but Evola never hesitated to criticize "Whites" such as Anglos and Nordics for being degenerate modernist while simultaneously praising more conservative "brown" peoples such as Arabs, Indians and Amerindians.

>> No.14952108

>>14951021
I swear to God 'politics' online is literally just about learning references. And when you go to the bottom of these references you find nothing. It's like throwing empty boxes around as a hobby.

>> No.14952129

>>14950983
Why do people talk about books they haven't read as if they were not only an authority but one capable of dismantling the author himself.

>> No.14952143

>>14952069
American conceptions of white (and black) are total memes. Sicilians are Caucasians alright.

>> No.14952258

whoever's printing and publishing evola's most common texts is laughing all the way to the bank (and probably have been for the past five years)

>> No.14952383

>>14950983
This thread is gross.

>> No.14952412

>>14950983
>she

>> No.14952416

>>14950983
Does she have a patreon?

>> No.14952490

>>14950983
WHY DO ALL AMERICANS SPEAK THE SAME WAY

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>>14950983
Leftists are just hideous.

>> No.14953383

>>14951178
Hilarious, clearly you don't spend time around any black people. This isn't even what old-school racists thought, it's actually the opposite. Everybody's fuckable.

>> No.14953387

I wish I could read Evola myself, but none of the libraries or shops carry it.

>> No.14953394

yikes she-he a tranny? can't listen to that nasal voice

>> No.14953403

>>14953383
Black women are notoriously masculine. Hell they're are even studies on their testorone amount.
You're probably surrounded by mixed mutt types who retain the lean beauty of the consumed white genetics.

>> No.14953414

>>14950983
The nose knows, lolz.

>> No.14953445

>>14951032
>>14951044
>>14951054

Hey lads, am I gonna be fucked if I start with the doctrine of awakening before reading revolt? I’m interested in Buddhism right now and am curious to hear evola’s view of it, though I don’t want to be completely lost.

>> No.14953843 [DELETED] 

>>14952490
Because they're American?

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>>14951050
Because they are living on the edge under constant pressure from their enemies. Godspeed to all AR people reading this. Give 'em hell son.

>> No.14954051

>>14951012
If I write a philosophy thesis and bury lead in my brain, does that mean I refuted everybody?

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>>14950983
/lit/erally who

>> No.14954107

>>14951795
Good post, anon... now that's a thing I haven't seen on /lit/ in a long time

>> No.14954313

>>14951021
why do i have a feeling this person cried writing that comment

>> No.14954349

>>14954051
It would be extremely painful.

>> No.14954366

>>14950988
Loooooooooooool

>> No.14954488

>>14950983

Thats a jewish man

>> No.14954590

>>14950983
stop posting trannies op

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before going further with this debate, /lit/ will first have to reach a consensus on the sex of this person

>> No.14954850

>>14951259
>The callous men in black suits steeped in classified intel is all mythology.
This.
They only have to be scummier than their opposition and less incompetent in order to win.
Plus they're riding on institutionalised, established power. These aren't people who struggled to get to the top fighting established power.

>> No.14954885

>>14951021
>democracy leads to decadence and degeneracy
Well at least this false democracy with its sex and money obsession and so called elected representatives does

>> No.14954895

>>14951355
“What was so great about Brazil? As far as he knew, Brazil was a shithole full of morons obsessed with soccer and Formula One. It was the ne plus ultra of violence, corruption and misery. If ever a country were loathsome, that country, specifically, was Brazil.“

>> No.14954955

>>14954654
Obviously a dude, dude.

>> No.14954981

Comparing relatively complex concepts with superhero movies and clickbait rag lingo is almost endearing since they're trying to explain the world through the terminology they understand. 'Was Nietzche an incel' and so on

>> No.14955066

>>14950983
he brings up some good points but makes a pro guilty until I decide they're innocent argument which makes me think maybe they're not arguing in good faith

>> No.14955084

>>14951795

good post. people dont seem to realize just how peculiar fascism is and just either lap it with muh socialism as boomer conservatives and lolbertarians do, or with muh right wing, racism, evil reactionaries as liberals and leftists do.

>> No.14955123

>>14953276
Apart from the dudes gimpy piercings, they both look extremely normal

>> No.14955195

>>14950983
There's literally no arguments or critique of Evola made in the video. It's all just stupid shit like "He liked mountain climbing so him saying mountain climbing is a transcendent act is obviously just his own narcissism", or accusations of him being a fascist (as if that actually means anything when you're talking about a period of time in Italy when almost fucking everyone was either a fascist or a communist).

>> No.14955203

>>14953445
Nah you won't. But you'll need to reread the doctrine of awakening after reading other Evola's text to fully understand it.
The doctrine of awakening will give you a good introduction to both buddhism and traditionalism

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Why are women and homosexualus/leftists so triggered by Evola?

>> No.14955327

>>14955123
You have very low standards/are american, my fren

>> No.14955336

>>14952490
Because burgers are unironic cattle.

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>>14951011
She is.
>>14955066
They are factually correct even though they obviously have a bias to present Evola as mentally unhinged.
>>14955237
Most people have never heard of Evola so this is dumb.
>>14954981
It makes sense to have simple comparisons for the sake of maintaining a pace in a video essay desu. This is designed to be an entry point for normalfags who don't understand philosophy not be regarded as a legitimate yet dry academic take.
>>14950983
I thought the video essay was interesting overall so long as you don't expect a through examination.

>> No.14955890

>>14955881
>it makes sense to make simple comparisons

except they erase the boundary between retarded popcult concepts and even simple philosophical concepts such as ubermensch.

>> No.14955902

>>14950983
If she is not an esoteric fascist, she is not /ourgirl/.

>> No.14955928

>>14951002
To the left, fascism isn't so much an independent ideology as it is the set of positions they can justifiably use violence against in non-revolutionary settings. As far as they're concerned, Evola fits the bill.

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>>14951795
>They don't realize that fascism has no one "figure," like Marx, that everything branches out from.
This was never her claim. She just pointed out that Evola was widely read and thought highly of by the first fascists, and that this is still the case today.
It's irresponsible not to listen to the whole video and jump to conclusions. It just reinforces the stereotype that right-wingers don't listen to their opposition, and sets a bad example for others.
The rest of your post isn't relevant to Evola but I'll respond anyway.

> Fascists are not capitalistic, rather they make "concessions" towards communism is some areas, while rebuffing it in its core thesis.
You're right about how they oppose communism in principle, but they do not make any meaningful concessions towards it. Things like protecting workers' rights and putting laws in place to prevent instances of capitalism's most harmful excesses are things most communists might advocate for, but they are not necessarily communist. Although those reforms are good, they're not building an economic system outside of capitalism or reorganizing the state into a dictatorship of the proletariat. They're just using state intervention in the economy in the hopes they can guide capitalism in such a way that it benefits the nation as a whole.

Otherwise, good point about the fascist view of capitalism, as well as their roots in socialist movements. I feel that's often overlooked in modern right-wing circles.

>So fascists cannot be properly characterized in the heart of the right wing, at all,
>not even in the heart of right wing reactionary politics.
Outside of the economics, fascists almost always hold reactionary views of women, racial minorities, homosexuals, etc., and these cultural views inform most of their discussion and activism on their part. Just because there are traditionalists who are even more strict about their cultural views as well as economically right-wing doesn't mean fascists don't sit comfortably in the right.
That's like a Bernie supporter saying that they're not left wing because there are plenty of other people by comparison who are much *more* left-wing.

>> No.14956513

>>14955890
It's on fucking YouTube you psued.

>> No.14957088

>>14950983
I can’t watch that thing

>> No.14957101

>>14951032
is that a hantavirus patient?

>> No.14957123

is this the new contrapoints

>> No.14957198

>>14955890
Even more elementary: if it's not a girl it's not /ourgirl/

>> No.14957220

>>14957198
Meant to (You) this >>14955902 not
>>14955890

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>>14950983
mfw satan double rapes this trannyjew beast