Bronze Age Pervert has been refuted!

[Anonymous No.14985073]

Bros, where were you when BAM as eternally BTFOed by Keith Woods?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJmFHi68DNc&feature=emb_logo

[Anonymous No.14985116]

>>14985073
Give me a run down before I decide if I want to give some youtube retard my view

[Anonymous No.14985243]

>>14985116
He's a far right Irish commentator. Just watch it he's really well read and gives a valid critique

[Anonymous No.14985253]

>>14985243
I would say he's surpassed the left-right dichotomy. He's just a dissident thinker that cares about his people. It doesn't make any sense to place him on the spectrum.

[Anonymous No.14985257]

>>14985116
I don't agree with him politically but the guy seems pretty reasonable and argues in good faith. His long rambling about the death of god was pretty comfy

[Anonymous No.14985281]

>>14985073
Spencer, Woods and Dutton nothing but pure kino nectar

[Anonymous No.14985311]

>>14985073
BAP is one of the biggest larps out there. There's a 90% he isn't even /fit/. He is just an avenue to self-obsessed inaction and wholesale cringe.
His style is already becoming dated, and the atrophied echo-chamber of his twittersphere offers only lessons in how to avoid self-imposed impotence. BAP is ultimately a nonentity.

[Anonymous No.14985313]

>>14985073
Twittertards and pseudtubers fuck off now and forever you cancerous letches

[Anonymous No.14985326]

>>14985311
>He is just an avenue to self-obsessed inaction
Yeah that's a good way to put it

[Anonymous No.14985340]

>>14985311
What am I looking at here?

[Anonymous No.14985354]

>>14985311
>>14985326
what do you mean inaction? doesn't he tell his followers to get high ranking in the military and government to enact change?

[Anonymous No.14985376]

>>14985311
because you are so passionate about hating him, i will check him out and will likely learn something constructive. The Streisand Effect in action

[Anonymous No.14985394]

>>14985281
>Dutton
makes a 30 minute video about how all great Irish writers are really English and that Joyce is not good.

[Anonymous No.14985442]

>>14985311
>>14985326
He literally advocates the opposite of inaction

[Anonymous No.14985461]

>>14985442
No it's about LARPing as a man of action actually leading to nothing. It's all posturing and biding your time until the collapse

It's pathetic LARPing

[Anonymous No.14985503]

>>14985461
It's not about waiting for collapse, you're in the collapse. There's not going to be some big happening, catabolic collapse is a slow process. LARPing is trying to recreate 20th century mass politics in the 21st century. Taking a realistic approach to the Latin Americanization of the Us is the opposite of LARPing.

[Anonymous No.14985531]

>>14985073
>hasn't actually read the book
He should have. It's a short and kinda humorous/playful. And that is just as important as some autistic "summary of the main points" or whatever.
(It's still not high quality literature, though, don't expect much.)

I don't think it's advocating inaction, but trying to make people see things in a different way.
What did Richard Spencer's "action" achieve anyway? Or even the good optics nationalists' "action"? Things are more complicated. Moldbug made some relevant remarks towards nationalists as well in his last interview.
I mean, imagine being a white nationalist in America when half of American whites are literally obese lmao.
I think Spencer has a decent understanding of the situation, but he seems a bit sociopathic and cynical.

[Anonymous No.14985541]

>>14985531
>Moldbug made some relevant remarks
Nope

[Anonymous No.14985546]

>>14985531
In this case pragmatism is actually not pragmatic. There needs to be a grand ideal and a romantic ideal for your race which Spencer realizes. Some sort of civic nationalist epic Bronze Age LARPing is not going to lead to anything

[Anonymous No.14985561]

One hobo has more power than Jeff Bezos or Mark Fuckerberg

[Anonymous No.14985570]

>>14985340
Presencing of antithetical hypermemeplexs contra mundane trajectories. Just enjoy it.

>>14985354
You cannot infiltrate quicksand, even if you ease yourself into it slowly.
Or from a different angle, think how black holes and escape velocity works. BAP is too slow, he doesn't reach escape velocity.

>>14985376
I don't hate ineffectual silhouettes. And you should check him out and will likely learn something constructive. You can learn something constructive by checking out Thomas Cleary's Taoist classics, too. lol@ the idea of trying to keep anyone away from things.

>>14985442
>>14985503
Check out Dugin's idea of eternal Ending rather than ever reaching an end. It is all Ending, but the ending is endless. No collapse, just more inhuman perpetuity.
And You cannot exist within this system, because existence itself is evaporating within the system. ticktickticktok

[Anonymous No.14985587]

>>14985541
Yes. At least that part about how the "nazis" tend to assume those caricatured villain roles like retards, instead of pushing their own framing. (And I know that a few "good optics" guys tried doing that, but you could tell it wasn't really sincere and it didn't have the aesthetic/ideological appeal.)

[Anonymous No.14985606]

>>14985570
History is only ended so long as America is hegemonic and the influence of people like Luttwak on BAP I think shows that he sees America's ever-weakening institutions as an eventual opening for regime change.

[Anonymous No.14985624]

>>14985570
Recc me lit, based one. I've read Dugin and want more intelligent radicals.

[Anonymous No.14985638]

Alright so how does this guy think we should go about changing things

[Anonymous No.14985658]

> And You cannot exist within this system, because existence itself is evaporating within the system. ticktickticktok

What did it mean by this?

[Anonymous No.14985699]

>>14985638
The IRA thing is pretty much genetically encoded into the Irish at this point.

[Anonymous No.14985709]

>>14985461
Right, because the best thing to do is grab a tiki torch and march. Retard.

[Anonymous No.14985734]

>>14985624
Heidegger is the most important thinker to wrap your head around, which I assume you've done or are doing. Any efficacious contemporary theory and praxis traces back to him and his understanding of being as event rather than mere presence. Unless people really start to grasp his ideas like how stone has no world, animals are poor in world, and people are world, we can say bye-bye to humanity.
Jean Gebser is cool, but not "political". The Ever-present Origin is a very worthwhile tome though. Funnily enough, Gebser disliked Heidegger. For more strictly political radicals, Kai Murros doesn't have much but he's fun.

>>14985658
It's somewhere near the beginning of this earrape: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=64Xln2uuqPg

[Anonymous No.14985746]

>>14985638
The guy in the youtube video plainly says that if one is in disagreement with the current world views that are presented today, you should have an argument and a refutation ready. Pulling a long march because you can't refute today's way of thinking not only makes you look like a fool to your foes, but to people on the fence. He also makes a point that big stick people (conquerers like Napoleon and Caesar) are irrelevant in this day and age since big thinking people (Like bill gates, george soros, and (((Financiers))) ) pretty much negate using brute force, since big thinking people are more valuable for civilization as a whole, and can prevent big stick people from getting enough power to kill big thinking people. (This is all regurgitation of the video, how about watching it?)

[Anonymous No.14985771]

>>14985746
I'm watching it and about 1/3 of the way through it seems like he doesn't have any familiarity with BAP beyond his name? Like obviously BAP fetishizes Ancient Greece but he's not literally, unironically telling people to go out there and pretend they're living in Ancient Greece as if that's a viable strategy to accomplish anything.

[Anonymous No.14985773]

>>14985746
>have an argument and a refutation ready
Lm fucking ao, the man’s Ben Shapiro.

[Anonymous No.14985788]

>>14985746
Outdebating people wont change anything, most people have no coherent worldview, but good luck changing their minds on anything, wrongthink makes people sperg out. This seems more pie in the sky than BAP

[Anonymous No.14985793]

>>14985746
Not the guy you replied to, but that only makes sense if civilization keeps existing.

[Anonymous No.14985812]

>>14985793
Not that guy, but civilization stopped existing a while ago.

[Anonymous No.14985816]

>>14985734
Of course, Heidegger is required reading before you read Dugin and a wealth of other material. Will give Jean Gebser a go as I've completely missed him. Thanks, based-poster.

[Anonymous No.14985823]

>>14985788
>>14985793
IF your point of view relies on the world regressing to a point before the current world view, doesn't that seem a bit cowardly than having a full frontal argument? It's like saying "Yeah, no. I know I can't beat you in a debate, so i'm going to hide in my hole until your little sand castle gets melted away, and THEN i'll be the one who rules."

[Anonymous No.14985836]

>>14985823
Who’s awarding points for good form?

[Anonymous No.14985843]

>>14985823
I don't think BAP is against having arguments. You can spend all day schooling retards on Twitter but what are you accomplishing, at best you'll gain a small following of anime avatars. You should have a coherent ideology and not be a limp wristed intellectual

[Anonymous No.14985855]

>>14985823
What does beating anyone in a debate matter? It's just a word game. Now, if people like BAP, politicians, cartel leaders, and basically everyone really, would realize accruing wealth and power is just a pointless game as well and stop caring for it, we could have utopia. Ah well, at least such people are fully trapped in samsara.

[Anonymous No.14985861]

>>14985243
>he's really well read
He opens the video by saying he has skim read the first part of the book and lightly touched on Nietzsche in the past. I mean yes BAP has his issues, but at least the guys at Claremont read the damn thing before giving their critique.

[Anonymous No.14985874]

>>14985836
>>14985843
>>14985855

Holy fuck. What's at stake is whether or not the common man will accept what you are bringing to the table. And if the common man accepts your point of view, they will implement it over time. The book talks about imposing your point of view by improving yourself so you can be "johnny on the spot" when a Boogaloo occurs. When you're "johnny on the spot" by being the right man at the right time, you're in a position of power so you can impose your point of view. But doesn't that sound dishonest since you cant beat the current way things are unless things get shaken up?

[Anonymous No.14985903]

>>14985874
Are you retarded or something? Are you suggesting that the "common man" is persuaded by rational argument? Are you going to give out a little pamphlet detailing your views to people on the street? Are you suggesting that you can out argue the system you fucking child

[Anonymous No.14985904]

>>14985874
The common man doesn’t give a shit about sound reasoning, dweeb.

[Anonymous No.14985905]

BAP got refuted by God when He smited homosexuals with AIDS.

[Anonymous No.14985954]

>>14985903
>Are you suggesting that you can out argue the system?
We've been doing this since day one. Galileo finds some shiny bits in the sky and presents it to the system. Gets killed because of it but gets accepted into the system. System pre-enlightenment to post enlightenment.And here we are. Why can't you guys present an argument of some sort so that the common man can agree that preserving our traditions and races from days past is a GOOD thing for civilization as a whole?

[Anonymous No.14985987]

>>14985954
>why can't you be more convincing to Joe schmo than a multi-trillion dollar propaganda machine

[Anonymous No.14986033]

>>14985340
Boobs

[Anonymous No.14986060]

>>14985954
>We've been doing this since day one.
Not really. Viciously and unfairly mocking trannies and urbanites has done so much more than reasoned points. The latter belongs to Sargon of Akkad and the IDW, and they’re fucking embarrassments. Look at what Trump did to the GOP versus what Bernie did to the DNC. Really think about that.

[Anonymous No.14986268]

>>14985073
Is this guy a holocaust denying nazi sympathesizer? I watched one of his economic videos and he started praising the german economy in the 1930s.

[Anonymous No.14986316]

>>14986268
>sympathesizer
Makes me think of a musical keyboard that only produces sighs and Hallmark well-wishes.

[Anonymous No.14986340]

>>14985773
those arent his words

[Anonymous No.14986350]

>>14985788
take five minutes to watch the video.
i know its easier to quip but you'll just end up typing all night instead of sitting still and listening for five minutes.

[Anonymous No.14986356]

>>14985812
>eat all day without farming or hunting
>go to the bank and get money
C H A O S
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[Anonymous No.14986362]

>>14986316
lol

[Anonymous No.14986371]

>>14986060
this
in a world where stuttering or pulling a typo is enough for people to shut you off, you have to be the bully.

[Anonymous No.14986410]

>>14986350
Condescending and effeminate, pick up a weight and get a clue

[Anonymous No.14986414]

>>14986410
watch the video

[Anonymous No.14986522]

>>14985874
>What's at stake is whether or not the common man will accept what you are bringing to the table

hahahaha bro, look around you, right at this very moment.
'the common man' just got told they have to stay inside their house indefinitely, that they're not allowed to hang around in groups of 3 or more, that they'll be fined and electronically trace and harassed by drones if they disobey etc. etc.
and all of them are doing exactly what they're told. they're even busy *shaming* anyone who goes outside. things they would have at least caused a stink over only a decade or so ago, they are completely complying with OVERNIGHT.
normies will NEVER wake up. this is something a lot of anons still don't understand so let me repeat it - 95-99% of people in this world will NEVER wake up, until it's too late, or unless people take the initiative to accelerate things.

don't get me wrong here, i'm not advocating some blackpill doomer worldview, but you need to stop worrying about 'the common man', virtually entirely. get him out of your head.
the only thing you need to worry about is yourself, and your family and friends. and any sizable group you can steal and wield authority over. nechayev's 'catechism of a revolutionary', or even that 48 laws of power meme book will unironically be far more useful to this ends than all the logic and philosophy in the world.

[Anonymous No.14986552]

>>14986522
You're right, but it's because a general premise of morality is accepted most of it sheepish. That is why you never have any actually serious debates, but pedantic issues like abortion, coronavirus, etc. that statistically effects at most 10 percent of the population, who gives a fuck.

[Anonymous No.14986687]

>>14985788
>Outdebating people wont change anything
Not just outdebating, retard. Actually influencing decisions and acquiring real world power. One right wing version of George Soros is worth millions of nordic bodybuilders posting on twitter
>>14986410
>Condescending and effeminate
That has been your entire modus operandi; making snarky comments that fail to address the points being made. Everything you have previously said has been addressed in the video

[Anonymous No.14986709]

Reminder that BAM isn't mesnt to be read by Americans.
If you were born in the USA you're not his target audience (except very few exception). He already knows the USA is doomed: there's no hope for it. It is unironically a good thing that Mexico is invading it.
The bugman in the video will never understand BAM because he's american, so is the mutt in this thread.

>Actually influencing decisions and acquiring real world power. One right wing version of George Soros
You proved that you got filtered and the book wasn't meant for you.
The book talks about this and gives pratctical advice although contained by the medium in how to obtain this, the fact that you didn't notice is proof that you aren't worthy. He gives advice to people who are able to make it, not genetic waste that will fail and make things worse for everyone else

[Anonymous No.14986746]

>>14986709
>The bugman in the video will never understand BAM because he's american
He's Irish, retard.

[Anonymous No.14986751]

>>14986709
>The bugman in the video will never understand BAM because he's american
He's Irish and is living in Ireland.

[Anonymous No.14986759]

>>14986709
>filtered
lol there is nothing intellectual about your twitter meme book

[Anonymous No.14986767]

>>14986746
>>14986751
He speaks english so he's american

[Anonymous No.14986827]

>>14986767
Lmao, so what’re you?

[Anonymous No.14986834]

>>14986827
I can't speak ebglish ptoperly I only write it out of convenience

[Anonymous No.14986849]

>>14986834
You’re a hemi-burger is what you are.

[Anonymous No.14986922]

>>14986834
>>14986849
Wow a mutt of a mutt. What power....

[Anonymous No.14986963]

>>14985954
>Why can't you guys present an argument of some sort so that the common man can agree that preserving our traditions and races from days past is a GOOD thing for civilization as a whole?

Bacause it's not a good thing.

[Anonymous No.14986966]

>>14985073
my son you must choose. do you momentarily retvrn to the exact same exhausted late-medieval virtue ethics that spawned modernity & be preached at in church by ugly women and faggots?

or

do you be a nietzschean pirate?

[Anonymous No.14986974]

>>14986966
Neitzchean piracy produces facism or your pick of post truth gommuinsm.

[Anonymous No.14986988]

>>14986974
is there supposed to be something wrong with that?

[Anonymous No.14987013]

>>14986988
No, if you dont mind subjectivity of the highest order before a mandated truth can be given. I just dislike the excruciating transition phase of nothing meaning anything if it isnt done completely and revolutionarily.

[Anonymous No.14987022]

>>14987013
Meaning, the interregnum of post truth is aids, and if the revolution does not succeed, it all will dilapitate into semantic games like right now.

[Anonymous No.14987057]

>>14986966
I WANNA BE A FUCKING PIRATE!

[Anonymous No.14987085]

>>14987057
great news friend
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY

[Anonymous No.14987107]

>>14986974
Sure, let's give fascism another shot. We only tried it once and it was cut short by circumstance. Just because something doesn't work the first time doesn't mean it won't work the second, with some modifications.

[Anonymous No.14987118]

>>14985243
>he's really well read
What exactly is he well read in?
As the other anon points out he literally says that he hasn't read the book he is reviewing and has not even read Nietzsche, despite calling the book "Neetchee revisited"

[Anonymous No.14987120]

>>14985503
based and graphpilled

[Anonymous No.14987128]

>>14986966
>be a nietzschean pirate
Half of BAP's fans are literal homosexuals and trannies LARPing on twitter about being some vedic text scholar

Also what's so manly about pussying out of political discourse and just letting america become mexico 2.0. You're not gonna live in an ideal overman society when more than half of your population are literal spics

[Anonymous No.14987132]

>>14987118
Because it is NEETch revisited. WHy don't you watch some of his videos, retard? /lit/fags read one or two meme books like BAM or Harassment Architecture and then they think they're scholars. Just lol

[Anonymous No.14987137]

>>14985816
>>14985734
What's required reading to understand Heidegger?

[Anonymous No.14987161]

>>14987132
Lmao I've never read either of those books.
>WHy don't you watch some of his videos, retard?
I just did. Is this really what people who don't read at all (you) think smart commentary sounds like?
This guy is fucking retarded.
At least put up someone like Spencer who is actually well-read

[Anonymous No.14987210]

>>14987161
Keith Woods regularly talks to Spencer on their podcast.

Just because this guy didn't want to go through the entirety of some meme book made by a twitter homosexual doesn't mean he isn't well read

[Anonymous No.14987214]

>>14987210
>Hasn't read Neetshe
>Didn't read the book he's critiquing
Well read to a fault!

[Anonymous No.14987217]

>>14985874
>>14985954
>the common man
"He who builds on the people, builds on the mud" ~ Machiavelli

[Anonymous No.14987279]

>>14987137
'Heidegger Explained' by Graham Harman is a cool, straightforward place to start if you know zilch about Heidegger. Harman also recs a lot of further reading in it as well.

[Anonymous No.14987392]

>>14987214
he read NEETch just not some meme twitter book

[Anonymous No.14987394]

>>14987107
Ok

[Anonymous No.14987423]

>>14985073
I hate micks

[Anonymous No.14987524]

>>14987279
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.14988071]

Irish people are the niggers of Europe

[Anonymous No.14988077]

He still hasn't named one thing that we can learn from Islam that Europeans can't learn from their own history.

[Anonymous No.14988082]

if /lit/ takes morons like this seriously, it's in an even sorrier state than i thought