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15001533 No.15001533 [Reply] [Original]

Where to start reading if I want to get into post modern philosophy without starting from the Greeks?

>> No.15001541

it would be extremely painful

>> No.15001549

>>15001533
Quine.

>> No.15001551
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15001551

Read this faggot

>> No.15001711

Inictooculi

>> No.15001761

>>15001533
Start with the Greeks.

>> No.15003133

Bump.

>> No.15003138

>>15001533
Lacan.
>>15001549
Not what post-modern means.

>> No.15003440

Guys who wrote about beings -> guys who wrote about doubts -> guys who wrote about the source of doubts -> guys who think that everything comes from livin in a society

>> No.15003611

To understand Lyotard you actually need to start with the Greek Sophists

>> No.15003629

>>15001533
"start with the Greeks" is kind of a meme BUT reading Plato is so insanely valuable. I don't recommend skipping him. Pre-Socratics aren't necessary imo but reading a few Platonic dialogues as well as Nicomachean Ethics is essential for anyone who wants to understand the genesis of modern phil

>> No.15003631

>>15003611
>implying it's possible to understand the Sophists

>> No.15003655

>>15003631
with a knowledge of the ancient greek language and with historical context, yes. reading the sophists in translation is as cringey and worthless as new-age pseuds reading the tao te ching or the analects in translation and pretending to understand anything.

>> No.15003777

>>15003655
>implying a contemporary person can understand Ancient Greek perfectly

>> No.15004431

Another bump, now it's American hours so surely they will bless me with some help.

>> No.15004465

>>15001551
Based, fuck postm*dernists

>> No.15004543

>>15001533
Well, you just do it. Dive right in. Plenty of esoteric French crap to choose from. Derrida, Lyotard, Baudrillard, Lacan, Deleuze, etc. But they all refer to the Greeks at some point.

>> No.15004575

Greeks, Descartes, Kant, Hegel, Marx Freud and Nietzsche

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>>15004575
>kant
>post modernism