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There is something i need to read before start reading this cuck?

>> No.15027730

read Hegel's phenomenology and Kant's groundwork for the metaphysics of morals until you get the feeling "this idiots are just speaking gibberish" and then you'll be ready

>> No.15027773

What was this mans core philosophy explain in few pastas

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>>15027773
Life’s a cliche desu

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>>15027773
In the revolutionary age people were just waking up to the fact the king was not a divinely sovereign of god, and indeed there was no god, but Max/Johann goes steps further to unmask the laws of the secular state. He is a crucial part of the freedom project, which is why bootlickers and the general spooked hate him and try to smear him.
He wasn’t a sociopath, he was a genteel polite man. If the people stood up for themselves, the sociopathic ruling class would vanish.

>> No.15027956

>>15027730
Great, so if you cant understand german idealism read this. Great advice.

>> No.15027962
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>>15027906
>If the people stood up for themselves, the sociopathic ruling class would vanish.
This is hard to prove, as according to Hobbes, the natural state of humans will form a common-wealth. This inevitably follows the all too familiar path coinciding with the various attributes of the common-wealth and their given environment. Although, I do believe that given our current standards of living, as well as our complete reliance upon physical and geographically limited natural resources, it is possible for those who surround the deposits to form a collective common-wealth which acts as a de facto union untowards the greater Leviathan.

What this merely entail is the complete and utter balkanization (or deterritorialization) which will occur once’s it becomes plainly obvious that our de facto modes of state are outdated and outmoded in comparison to a superstate or Absolute which overwhelmingly drives the relative and physical aspects of our Earthly world. In the end, Evola was right. We enter the fourth fall and prepare for the end of an epoch. The Kali Yuga ends. The Black Sun rises.

>> No.15027963

>>15027906
>slavery
>labor
Spooks.

>>15027709
>need

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>>15027962
“Common-wealth” ought not be tied to a spooky currency
Also read Bookchin.

>>15027963
You misunderstand what a “spook” is

>> No.15028042

>>15028005
>“Common-wealth” ought not be tied to a spooky currency
It’s not though. It’s a law of nature that humans have the right to defend themselves and make contracts with others. Whether or not you recognize these contracts as something that is either opposed or aligned with anarchism, I’m not sure. But you’d be hard pressed to say that natural social contracts which arise between simple existence amongst other humans doesn’t prove the common-wealth as a spook. Who tf is bookchin, and why should I read him?

>> No.15028065

>>15027730
what happens if i dont read Hegel and Kant before i read Steiner?

>> No.15028070

>>15027906
>freedom project
the same guy that tells you everything you can grab and hold is yours, even people
his egoist society is a nightmare if you think 2 seconds on it
you think you wouldn't be abused by others if there were no laws or state?

>> No.15028077

>>15028065
You won't get his jokes about them

>> No.15028088

>>15028077
maybe thats for the best

>> No.15028104

>>15028042
Who the fuck if Evola and why would you waste your time on that backwardness

>>15028070
So you read it but you don’t understand it.
I see this path taken every Stirner thread. You hate the idea. You want a daddy to step on your neck. I get it. Fuck off

>> No.15028114

>>15027906
>sociopathic ruling class would vanish.
And even after reading stirner you remain a sentimental pessimist resentful over the rich. You have understood nothing.

>> No.15028120

>>15028005
>misunderstand
No such thing exists. That's merely a software label you give to things you want to ignore. Everything exists. Everything is true.

>> No.15028136

>>15028114
>pessimist resentful over the rich
Because I don’t want people to be sociopaths and for humans to go extinct?
You know nothing about me.

>>15028120
Read the book

>> No.15028148

>>15028136
You attach the word "sociopath" as a negative connotation arbitrarily to the rich because you hate them. I'm sorry, but you are transparent to me.

>> No.15028156

>>15027906
>In the revolutionary age people were just waking up to the fact the king was not a divinely sovereign of god
>fact
We're suffering from the cope denial over the fact that monarchy was indeed, divinely inspired. Plebistans created by the Secular Jihad and its memetic plague, complete human instrumentality and replaceability (aka. equality) seem very, very bad deals. They seem to be antithetical to a decent human life of any sort.

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>>15028104
>Who the fuck is Evola and why would you waste your time on that backwardness

>> No.15028176

>>15028136
>the rich will make humans extinct
No, resentful loser subhumans who suffer from ressentiment, like the retard muslims with their brain-dead religion, the leeches who hate the rich even though the rich are the only reason they are alive, the environmentalist humanitarians who want to put a stop to evolution because "awe it will hurt some animals", right wing retards who hate blacks for being athletically gifted and more masculine and Jews for being mentally gifted and rich, female feminists who think toxicity is an insult, etc. etc.

>> No.15028185

>>15028176
Those people are the greatest threat to evolution.

>> No.15028198

>>15028136
>sociopaths
>humans
Both spooks. Your shallow humanitarianism is obliterated by Stirner halfway through the book. Did you even read him?

>> No.15028228

>>15028176
Main problem is malware larping as culture. Circumcision, inbreeding, conscription, egalitarian murder rituals, public education - any harmful tradition that's repeated because of the monkey ladder -psychological structure.

>> No.15028253

>>15028228
All this would be solved with a strict hierarchical system combined with basic eugenics.

>> No.15028747

>>15028156
>>15028148
good goys>>15028176
heres your daily foreskin rations

>> No.15028798

>>15027956
yes, that's exactly what he did

>> No.15028944

>>15028104
>want someone to step on your neck
Projection. I don't hate the idea, its just dumb to think that everyone acting like a selfish egotist will produce a good world. I mean come on, people do act like this and the world is falling to fucking pieces.

You should be fucking ashamed of yourself for supporting this rancid backwardness, you intellectual insect.
>>15028136
>dont want people to be sociopaths
Yet your promoting a book the central thesis of which is egotism. Fucking wow. This is the power of degeneracy.
>>15027709
Just don't.

>> No.15028988

>>15028747
Plenty of monarchies, including the Russian one, were deeply suspicious and intolerant of jews and their shenanigans. Not intolerant enough, but still.
Every single democracy is a jew-pozzed hellhole.

>> No.15029032

>>15027709
>stirner in 2020
I don't know if you've noticed, but Guenon is the new meme around here.

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>>15028944
>Projection. I don't hate the idea,
Alright, I guessed wrong. You all share a name after all.
A society of *eogists* (not egotists) would unite to take collectively. The more members in a union of egoists the stronger, obviously. The more people the more general the goal. A far more perfect freedom awaits. The world is the way it is now because there is a relatively small number of egotists, the worst sociopaths are rewarded best. This system is based on competition, and the winners squash those below them.
You wont have this kind of world if everyone stood up for themselves, and united with others to stand up for collectives and the world’s population as a whole. You think this is topsy-turvy thinking, but it’s not. Unclinch the fist of control

>>15029032
Four people have not made a convincing case. Stirner is legit. Read him.

>> No.15030067

>>15030045
Stirner is a fascist philosopher

>> No.15030093

>>15030067
Not even Nietzsche is a fascist philosopher
Read the book, turkey.

>> No.15030111

>>15030045
egoism world = natural state where the strongest rules until he isn't the strongest anymore, but it is short lived because people will found proto-states again since egoism sucks for the majority, anarchists are ultra deluded

>> No.15030172

>>15030111
No, that’s one egotist world.
And your “proto states” are simply a world of more egotists. This was already stated. What’s your malfunction?

>> No.15030239

>>15030045
>You wont have this kind of world if everyone stood up for themselves
This is functionally no different from the Christian utopian's "if everyone just believed in God, the world would be perfect". It is a simple redefinition of your own personally imagined utopian state of affairs, rather than a description of the means necessary to arrive at that state. It's nothing but sentiment.

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>>15030239
Ah, it was a blanket statement, true. I have turned to ways to change the system ruining people’s minds and subsequently lives and our ecosystem.
Stirner is a start, for many, but sadly not everyone is going to get it. I am realistic about this.

>> No.15030474

speed. because 3/4 of the book is just repetition

>> No.15030640

>>15028065
You will become a midwit butterfly who kind of gets him.

>> No.15030640,1 [INTERNAL] 

No prerequisite to read his book
Prerequisite is a spook!
He is quite clear in his writing compared to other philosopher.

Anw Stirner clarify his idea in Stirner's Critic which make it clearer what he really means.

>> No.15030640,2 [INTERNAL]  [DELETED] 

Telling egoism equal natural state remind me of his critic that perceive egoist men equal wild and natural men in the jungle. (Striner's Critic)

There is no distinction between selfish mercenaries and unselfish nationalist, both are egoist stirner said. The later pursue his own interest, national self-interest. Just different interest. (ego and its own)

Stirner said "collective experiment". It mean that if natural state as you said or competition is not benefitting us, then we change it. We abolish it. To secure our interest.

>> No.15030640,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>15030111
Telling egoism equal natural state remind me of his critic that perceive egoist men equal wild and natural men in the jungle. (Striner's Critic)

There is no distinction between selfish mercenaries and unselfish nationalist, both are egoist stirner said. The later pursue his own interest, national self-interest. Just different interest. (ego and its own)

Stirner said "collective experiment". It mean that if natural state as you said or competition is not benefitting us, then we change it. We abolish it. To secure our interest.

>> No.15030841

haha based ghostbuster

>> No.15030890

>>15030640
Understanding a Hegelian context isn’t even necessary.
I don’t “kind of get it”, I got it.

>> No.15030896

>>15030890
ok

>> No.15030917

Do I have his ideas right?
>Individually and collectively we are always trying to deconstruct and throw off the big truths our generation take for granted
>Eventually if you keep at this you can throw out everything
>But even with all influences removed there is something left over still calling the shots
>This is the 'creative nothing' and by definition it can't really be defined except as the origin of our individuality

>> No.15030942

>>15030917
Kinda, but also that your individuality is You. If there exists a Soul, it is but a part of You and the moment you die... You die. Only your Soul remains.
Spooks include images of yourself that are not You. "I'm inferior" is a spooky thought, as I am all in all. I am my everything.

>> No.15030950

>>15027709
A decent book on English grammar

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Just posting favorite quote.

>> No.15031226

>>15030950
why
im gonna read it in spanish lmao

>> No.15031572

>>15031226
Even worse

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