Where do you go from here?

[Anonymous No.15077750]

I feel like once I read this, I got everything leftist thought has to offer. But with supposed right wing texts nothing feels complete in comparison.

Capital addresses every point brought against it. Its such a great text because you know who has read it the second they speak. Muh human nature, muh lazy people, people were all saying those things to marx and he addresses them over 150 years ago.

[Anonymous No.15077754]

>>15077750
lol

[Anonymous No.15077760]

>>15077750
I want to read it but its so big and scary

[Anonymous No.15078791]

>>15077750
There have been a lot of advances in Marxism since Marx. The next two biggest contributors to Marxism are Lenin and Mao, so I'd go onto them.

[Anonymous No.15078825]

>>15077750
le classless stateless society will surely come

[Anonymous No.15078838]

>>15078791
M L M
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[Anonymous No.15078998]

>>15077750
Marx and Nietzsche are the two greatest pleb/midwit/pseud filters because they are so omnipresent in cultural conciousness that most people think they get at least a gist of what they were about when in reality their knowledge usually boils down to what you've said. from my observations the two mistakes most people make are to think of Marx like some sort of moralist (he wasn't) and to think of Nietzsche as some sort of edgy teenage atheist (he was much more than discount Richard Dawkins)

[Anonymous No.15079158]

>>15077750
The truth is never simple. If you believe the complexity of the world has been resolved, you are wrong.

Pic related, predict the pattern before the end.

[Anonymous No.15079166]

>>15078998
in reality Marx and Nietzsche are best understood precisely as a moralist and an edgelord. They of course don't admit this themselves but that's what they are

[Anonymous No.15080320]

I'm going to read Capital soonish, should I read Grundrisse first?

[Anonymous No.15080502]

>>15080320
Just go straight into it, you don't NEED any background in philosophy, economics, socialism, etc. The book is cohesive and complete enough that it will make sense on its own, and because it was made for the working class at the time, it's easy enough to understand on its own. If you are curious about his references or if you get confused towards the beginning, watch David Harvey's lectures on Capital on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBazR59SZXk&list=PL0A7FFF28B99C1303

[Anonymous No.15080714]

>>15080502
A philosopher isn't worth studying unless I have to memorize a dictionary worth of terms they made up.

[Anonymous No.15080786]

how do people even make sense of the world and human history without a marxist lens? it must be like living a lovecraft story

[Anonymous No.15080849]

>>15077750
highly recommend Grundrisse. You can read some Lenin if you want but I wouldn't bother. If you want to read a modern take: Time, Labor, and Social Domination by Postone offers good criticisms

>>15079166
t. never read either

>>15080320
the only thing you should read first is the manifesto

[Anonymous No.15080867]

what's a good biography on marx? i'm interested to know who his influences were and why he hated the ruling class so much

[Anonymous No.15080908]

>>15080786
by actually reading history and realizing it's a lot more complicated than autistic formula

[Anonymous No.15080923]

>>15080867
>>15080867
I got most of my knowledge about Marx the person from the Revolutions podcast, there's an early part of series 10 that focuses on Marx's life.

His main influence by far was Hegel

[Anonymous No.15081082]

You nigger are retarded and have nevwr read capital. Im taking a college course on it now and its insufferable. That kike sack of shit just rambles about bullshit for 1400 pages. WHAT THE FUCK! I read the first half chapter and threw that garbage in the bin where it belongs. Fucking pseud jews

[Anonymous No.15081376]

>>15077750
>I feel like once I read this, I got everything leftist thought has to offer. But with supposed right wing texts nothing feels complete in comparison.
Are you insinuating the complexity of right-wing thought can't be contained in a single text or that it has too many idiosynchrasies to be a coherent and monolithic ideology?

[Anonymous No.15081389]

>>15077750
I prefer the German Ideology, It's more metaphysical whilst this is more technical.

[Anonymous No.15081410]

>>15078791
I disagree, I thinknthe most relevant stuff to modern political theory came through the marxism taken on by French thinkers in the 60s. I'd say many of Russia's political modes of operation in the 21st century, for example, arise from the arguments proposed by Foucault, Derrida and Lacan.

[Anonymous No.15081915]

>>15078838
Nice one anon

[Anonymous No.15081929]

Based OP

Now read Reading Capital :)