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>LOOK MARY OUR KID IS STRONG AND HAPPY
>OH WAIT HE KIND OF LOOKS ROMAN
Do christcucks really believe the story of a pregnant virgin to make up for their cuckoldry fetish?

>> No.15091284

Trolling outside of /b/.

>> No.15091310
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>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP INSULTING MY KIKE ON A STICK NOT THE KIKERINO SON OF A VIRGININO ON A STICKINO

>> No.15091319

Just have faith bro :)

>> No.15091382

>>15091279
kek

>> No.15091415

>>15091279
He fulfilled the prophecies, so yeah. It’s not as if some peasant woman was able to reactively fake everything about Jesus just to prove that she wasn’t sexually immoral. Jesus was prophesied to arrive before the destruction of the second temple, and be born of a virgin, and he was.

>> No.15091422

>>15091415
>He fulfilled the prophecies
Christcucks really believe this

>> No.15091432

>>15091422
not an argument

>> No.15091436

>>15091432
You literally base your position on faith

>> No.15091438

>>15091432
https://www.jewishvoice.org/learn/jesus-did-not-fulfill-messianic-prophecies-found-old-testament
Cope

>> No.15091460

>>15091436
yes, but there’s no such thing as faith without reason behind it, or everyone would have faith in random things for no reason
>>15091438
did you even read this lmao

>> No.15091469

>>15091438
Jews aren't an authority to exegete on the testaments. Modern day rabbinical Judaism is descended from the Pharisaical Judaism that Christ abolished.

>> No.15091470

>>15091432
>In Ezekiel 26:1-21, God states that >Nebuchadnezzar would conquer, sack, and completely destroy the city of Tyrus (Tyre) and that Tyre's land would never be built upon again

>However, this never occurred. After a 13-year siege, Tyre compromised with NebuchadnezzarWikipedia's W.svg and accepted his authority without being destroyed. Despite being conquered and razed by Alexander the Great 240 years later,[2] Tyre still exists.[3]

OH NOONONONONO MUH INFALLIBLE BIBLICAL PROPHECIES

>> No.15091480

>>15091460
It's ultimately without reason. That's the point of faith.

>> No.15091487

>>15091469
>jews aren't the authorities who should talk about my jew
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_prophecies
Your religion is a fucking fraud

>> No.15091488

>>15091470
It's a metaphor you retard

>> No.15091491

>>15091487
Cope
>"Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart" Eph. 4:18

>> No.15091504

>>15091491
scizo boomer

>> No.15091512
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>>15091488
>N-NOOOO IT'S A METAPHOR JUST THIS ONE TIME GOD WAS JUST KIDDING I SWEAR
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>>15091491
The fuck are you trying to prove here? There's a list of fake prophecies which is enough evidence your faith is full of shit

>> No.15091528

>>15091470
God refers to Tyre with personal pronouns such as “thou” and talks of “many nations” rising up against it. So it can be argued that God does not merely mean that the buildings will be forever erased, and that delayed attacked against the city, such as Alexander the Great’s, still fulfill the prophecy
>>15091480
no

>> No.15091535

>>15091469
>Modern day rabbinical Judaism is descended from the Pharisaical Judaism that Christ abolished.
If only that were all that was wrong with it; you also have the post-Second Temple denial of Christ which includes to this day cope like >>15091438. Or, as I like to call it, pharisaism PLUS rejection.

>> No.15091543

>>15091528
>So it can be argued
Are you trying to think what you want about the word of God? That's fucking heresy, to hell with you.

>> No.15091553

>>15091543
you’ve got no argument so you have to play your reddit semantics. I’ll take that as a concession of defeat

>> No.15091571

>>15091553
>reddit semantics
>as if your entire post wasn’t literally just semantics
how can anyone cope THIS hard?

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>>15091553
>Y-YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENTS
there are dozens of unfulfilled prophecies in that page, good luck finding the mental gymnastics to patch all of them to fit your kike on a stick narrative

>> No.15091583

>>15091571
Christcucks are mentally ill, don't bother finding logic or coherence in their posts

>> No.15091614

>>15091571
>>15091572
https://bnonn.com/did-ezekiels-prophecy-against-tyre-fail/

>> No.15091618

>>15091614
you’ve got no argument so you have to play your christcuck semantics. I’ll take that as a concession of defeat

>> No.15091644

>>15091618
the argument is in the link and my original post. Alexander’s conquest is a part of the prophecy, not a failure of it

>> No.15091655

>>15091512
>The fuck are you trying to prove here
>>jews aren't the authorities who should talk about my jew
see >>15091491
Modern rabbinical Jews cannot exegete the testaments

>> No.15091670

29 replies
9 posters
shit thread

>> No.15091676
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15091676

Insulting the name of the Blessed Virgin is a sure way to bring ruin and devastation down on your own head.

>> No.15091687

>>15091644
>semantics
lmao cope

>> No.15091699

Why would you choose to believe half of the story of Jesus' conception? I don't think it's us who are obsessed with cuckolding.

>> No.15091702

>>15091687
semantics relating to the actual topic, which is important because we’re only dealing with a few verses here. But the response I was referring to was childishly semantic

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>>15091676
Your blessed virgin loves big roman cock

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>>15091712
Insult her at your own peril. Mary is extremely powerful in Heaven and is not crossed lightly.

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15091739

>Insult her at your own peril. Mary is extremely powerful in Heaven and is not crossed lightly

>> No.15091740

>>15091702
>semantics relating to the actual topic
i.e. fanfic i.e. COPE
>bible says Nebuchadnezzar will destroy tyre
>he doesn’t
>b-b-but bible was still telling the truth because 200 years later another guy kinda sorta did it instead
you have nothing

>> No.15091774

>>15091284
No, he's in fact, even if sightly in jest, critically engaging with one of the most important literary works in human history, and its supposed factitiousness claimed by so many.

>> No.15091779

>>15091279
The Chad Pandera vs the virgin Joseph the cuck

>> No.15091797

>>15091740
Nope

7 For thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will bring upon Tyrus Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, a king of kings, from the north, with horses, and with chariots, and with horsemen, and companies, and much people.

8 He shall slay with the sword thy daughters in the field: and HE shall make a fort against thee, and cast a mount against thee, and lift up the buckler against thee.

9 And HE shall set engines of war against thy walls, and with his axes HE shall break down thy towers.

10 By reason of the abundance of HIS horses their dust shall cover thee: thy walls shall shake at the noise of the horsemen, and of the wheels, and of the chariots, when HE shall enter into thy gates, as men enter into a city wherein is made a breach.

11 With the hoofs of HIS horses shall HE tread down all thy streets: HE shall slay thy people by the sword, and thy strong garrisons shall go down to the ground.

>12 And THEY shall make a spoil of thy riches, and make a prey of thy merchandise: and THEY Ashall break down thy walls, and destroy thy pleasant houses: and THEY shall lay thy stones and thy timber and thy dust in the midst of the water.

Nebuchadnezzar is not referred to by “they.” That is the other nations, Alexander etc. You should take this opportunity to reflect on your being wrong and ask yourself what else you’re wrong about.

>> No.15091819

>>15091734
Haha this look like bagina :DDDD

>> No.15091882

>>15091797
In any other book you would interpret "they" to mean the people he brings with him who are included alongside him in that selection.

>> No.15091907

>>15091882
the pronoun switch makes no sense. All the other actions stated previously were performed by HIM, even though these actions are collective, and obviously not only performed by one man. It’s ok to be wrong

>> No.15091934

>>15091882
>In 332 BC, Alexander the Great used the rubble of mainland Tyre to build a causeway to the island city. He literally cast the stones and timber into the sea: the city was covered by the waters, as Ezekiel had prophesied. This rubble Alexander used as a road to the supposedly impregnable island city. He was then able to mount a siege against it, also as Ezekiel had depicted—despite that depiction seeming to make no sense to his audience at the time.
amazing isn’t it?
> Seek the Lord while he may be found; call upon him while he is near; let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the Lord, that he may have compassion on him, and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

>> No.15091977

>>15091907
>>15091934
The pronoun switch makes sense if you don't autistically think a writer can't switch pronouns in a long passage of text without referring to a different guy centuries in the future. Also why would the writer be so specific about stones and timber being cast into the water but hope you would guess he was talking about a different king instead of writing a sentence to make the distinction?

>> No.15091999

>>15091797
YOU are coping and YOU are a schizo who is desperate to make YOUR headcanon into reality

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>>15091739
>>15091819
The Queen of Heaven has made her power felt at Lourdes, at Fatima, and at countless other places over the centuries. She's not a joke and is not to be taken lightly.

>> No.15092013

>>15092001
Is she gonna come to 4chan and spam more christshit?

>> No.15092029

Trolling outside of /b/.
Jannies taking a break??

>> No.15092032

>>15091279
Why do atheists seethe so hard on /lit

>> No.15092038

>>15091977
it clearly says “they” will cast the stuff into the water, which is what Alexander did. “They” is referring to the non-Nebuchadnezzar nations mentioned in verse 3. You’re performing mental gymnastics, and dare I say, coping

>> No.15092055

>>15091436
>Christian concepts of faith (pistis) were borrowed from Greek rhetorical notions of pistis.[6] Christian pistis deems its persuasion in a positive light as the New Testament concepts of pistis require that a listener be knowledgeable of the subject matter at issue and thus able to fully assent.
if you're gonna be a neck beard at least put some effort into it

>> No.15092056

>>15091553
>shills on /lit/ pushing the anti-Reddit tactic hard
Give it time and it’ll be every other thread the same way /pol/ gets derailed by BBC

>> No.15092125

>>15092055
honestly I don’t know where this idea that faith is totally without reason comes from. “Faith is the hope in things unseen” alright, but we have reason to think those things exist in the first place

>> No.15092156

>>15092038
>You will never be rebuilt
>Is rebuilt

>> No.15092165

>>15092156
see the link

>> No.15092168

>>15092125
It's just a branch of interpretation that I think might have started with Martin Luther but don't quote me. It's called fideism and atheist raised in or around Protestantism often use it as a last ditched response against Christians regardless of their particular denomination. The concept doesn't even make sense in the context of The Bible considering there are plenty of proofs provided for Christianity in The Bibles regardless of if you find them compelling or not.

>> No.15092185

>>15092168
It's not a proof if it doesn't prove anything.

>> No.15092205

>>15091655
Maybe you should start debunking the unfulfilled instead of attacking the jews, y'know?

>> No.15092209

>>15092165
>i
Dude I was talking about Tyre, PHEONICIA not Tyre, Lebanon lol
No they're not the same city!!
>ii
Dude I was just exaggerating don't take me so seriously lol

>> No.15092218

>>15092185
>the fossil record alone doesn’t prove evolution. Therefore the fossil record isn’t proof of evolution

>> No.15092239

>>15092218
If you're going to use scientific standards for proof then the Bible certainly fails in proving God's existence.

>> No.15092257

>>15092209
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/9201/what-does-ezekiel-2614-mean-by-tyre-shall-never-be-rebuilt

>> No.15092294

>>15092239
you didn’t get my meaning. There are reasons to think that the Bible is (could be) true. Of course, you can say that the Bible still hasn’t been proven. But what HAS been proven? You still need a little bit of faith to believe anything. The prophecies, wisdom, martyrs, history, etc. of Christianity all count as proof to some extent, do they not? Or do you think that the Bible has just as much proof as Harry Potter? I really want you to answer this question

>> No.15092329

>>15091279
> atheists literally believe something came out of nothing
Seems crazier than virgin birth but whatever.

>> No.15092331

>>15092185
Um okay? Lol... I'm saying that the fideistic interpretation of pistis is incorrect in the context of the Christian worldview as shown in The Bible.
Also sure it is, someones personal experience with God is a type of proof. Now most people, myself included don't find this to be a convincing proof for a lot of reasons (in some cases experiences are actually good proofs of something depending on the situation), but that doesn't discount the fact that it is a type of proof.

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>>15091279
Why yes, I do believe in the Holy Bible and all of the miracles therein, how could you tell?

>> No.15092362

>>15092294
When I read Plato, I don't Atlantis to be true for the same reason I don't take the virgin birth to be true. It goes against everything else we know and requires a greater amount of evidence for me to believe, which isn't there.

>> No.15092365

>>15092331
someone’s personal experience is definitely a proof for that person, to be clear. Atheists lack the proof because they don’t seek it properly

>> No.15092372

>>15092365
This. Just have faith bros :)

>> No.15092393

>>15092362
with God, all things are possible. Your focus on the virgin birth or any other miracle is unnecessary. If God exists, then those miracles are certainly possible. So the whole issue revolves around whether or not we should believe that the Bible is divinely inspired or not. And there is proof for that belief, more so than any other book that has ever existed. If we have reason to believe that the Bible is divinely inspired, then we have reason to believe that the whole Bible is true.

>> No.15092397

>>15092365
my personal experience is that you are a faggot, how should I interpret that?

>> No.15092405

>>15092365
Sure, I probably should have made clear that I was referring to personal experience in apologetic use as a good tool. It's just not convincing to a lot of people.

>> No.15092421

>>15091734
>Mary is extremely powerful
Muh pagan fertility goddess has no “special power” in Heaven lmao

>> No.15092422

>>15092397
you believe I’m homosexual? I think you’re lying or misspeaking. You probably mean to say that I’m annoying, or some other thing. In that case, it’s certainly true for you, because that’s your opinion of my behavior. I can’t tell you that you’re wrong

>> No.15092441

>>15092393
The Bible's being divinely inspired hinges on Jesus' divinity. His divinity hinges on prophecies he supposedly fulfilled and the testimonies of those who knew of it. Those two things aren't enough for me to believe in his divinity. That's just where I stand.

>> No.15092458

>>15092441
Was Jesus a good man?

>> No.15092483

>>15092422
>it’s certainly true for you
>it’s true
>for you
christoids were the real relativists all along

>> No.15092489

>>15092483
I wasn’t generalizing. You asked me a question, and I answered. Ask a better question if you want a better answer.

>> No.15092490

>>15092458
I don't believe in a universal Good and Evil if that's what you mean.

>> No.15092502

>>15092489
Does your mom know you're a faggot?

>> No.15092513

>>15092490
so there’s no difference between Jesus and anyone else? Not even serial killers? I don’t think you mean this, do you?

>> No.15092546

>>15092513
Ethically to me there's certainly a difference. But I don't believe in a universal good. What's good for a starving spider is not what's good for a fly.

>> No.15092563

>>15091572

>kike on a stick

Lol

>> No.15092570

>>15092546
I agree there. But I didn’t ask if Jesus was a good spider

>> No.15092581

>>15092570
Yes he fits my idea of a good man.

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